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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:17:00 -
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Just as an example of how much lighting affects the ships, one more unaltered screenshot.
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Findus Artos
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Posted - 2007.12.03 02:21:00 -
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When I look at almost all screenshots I don't see many effects in use, may it be that most effecs on the ships are not used on current sisi version? I will atleast wait and see what will happen to my loved Domi untile the 5th. Complain about the strange blue tint, yes do that, it makes sense... well not realy, not untile the engine is fully out on display, then I will join to, but I give CCP a shot first to show it as it should, CCP don't cute things up they make things cool and hard looking but not cute... I hope... |

Sethose Olderon
The Sigma Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.03 05:22:00 -
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You know, I don't care for the baby blue either. Being a graphic designer, they do look nice, but I think they project the wrong attitude. A dark green would have gone over alot better!
Also, however, the colors seem to be the same in the trailer. Look closely. Plus, these may not be the final releases, CCP could be holding back until the 5th? I hope they are though!
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.03 05:49:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 03/12/2007 05:49:09
Originally by: Sethose Olderon A dark green would have gone over alot better!
this
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.03 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Taius Pax Just as an example of how much lighting affects the ships, one more unaltered screenshot.
IT IS NOT BLACK IS IT?
Seriously the ships look like they got slapped around by a phong shader and CCP never looked back. I am disgusted by the "matte" color that the ships exude and they do not have any real depth. The HDR shininess that is given off looks like the ship is covered in lube. In order for shininess to WORK, you have to have an incredibly METALLIC color underneath.
Metal that is lit should be BRIGHT COLORED, while metal that is not should NOT BE LIT. Look at a picture of Saturn, for instance. The rings on the unlit side of the planet are completely shadowed 100%, because there is no nearby light source to give enough light to make up. Granted this is a game and that would be awfully diffiuclt to render in realtime, but you can approximate it by making the colors of the ships darker themselves. And the baby blue/metal slosh is just icky.
CCP, YOU need to make the ships have DEPTH. Not look like painted pieces of paper. _________________ Burn. |

Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.12.03 06:59:00 -
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I've said it before, but it bears repeating: the blue doesn't look so bad when there's a lot more black on the surrounding hull. The blue still stinks, but I think any light color on that highlight is a mistake. Also, simply changing the blue to something else doesn't really solve the problem of too little variety in the look of the ships' hull colors.
The thing that bothers me about this little Gallente color issue isn't so much the poor choice for the universal highlight color, but rather that more work wasn't put into making the ships more unique. I'm guessing it took less time to do them the way they are. Considering this patch is largely considered a graphics upgrade, despite all the other work that went into it, it's a shame the Gallente ships didn't come out looking a bit more menacing.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.12.03 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Mack Dorgeans I've said it before, but it bears repeating: the blue doesn't look so bad when there's a lot more black on the surrounding hull. The blue still stinks, but I think any light color on that highlight is a mistake. Also, simply changing the blue to something else doesn't really solve the problem of too little variety in the look of the ships' hull colors.
The thing that bothers me about this little Gallente color issue isn't so much the poor choice for the universal highlight color, but rather that more work wasn't put into making the ships more unique. I'm guessing it took less time to do them the way they are. Considering this patch is largely considered a graphics upgrade, despite all the other work that went into it, it's a shame the Gallente ships didn't come out looking a bit more menacing.
I was talking about the entire overall texture/color of the ship. Not just the color highlight. _________________ Burn. |

Vrenth
Gallente 23rd Armor Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 07:27:00 -
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Edited by: Vrenth on 03/12/2007 07:27:24 OMG. THE NEW COLOR IS GALLENTE GREEN. Did you not hear the man say "We remodeled our ships to get closer to our dream. We remodeled and retextured them to look more like our original concept art."
This color is not blue, its turqouise.. if you actually undock/change systems, you'll notice the color looks almost EXACTLY like the old green gallente lights. It is a very dark teal color. The "bluest" of the ships seen in the hangers is the thanatos. LOOK at the thanatos with non-omni lighting outside of a station...
Thanatos NOT BLUE
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.12.03 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kurogauna Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 00:38:31
Quote: Take those ships outside and they look pretty much like the trailer assuming you're in the right lighting.
you mean outside .. like this? 
or outside like that ?
And I can pick a camera angle that makes that Hyperion look dark and foreboding.
It's all about the lighting conditions.
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.12.03 09:46:00 -
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Caldari Navy Raven doesn't stink in plain light...
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WiZZyWiGG
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.03 10:08:00 -
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I love the new Gallente colours.
CCP leave them be, although I doubt they were going to change them anyway. ___________
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Probita
Gallente 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.03 10:37:00 -
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Old models were darker. I'm specially affected by the change in the Thorax ... from a black-silver sport cruiser ... to an almost uniform pale color.
Thanatos also were dark and with its eerie green lights. Now is far less fearsome.
Give gal ships theirs alien colors back, please :) Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum |

Lelulie
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Posted - 2007.12.03 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lelulie on 03/12/2007 10:50:21 So what you're saying is that Gallente have to fly their ships in dark space with very little lighting in order to hide the hidious baby blue and allow our ships to look dark metallic with a hint of navy blue because of a system that has poor / limited lighting?
Ok...
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Kiranda Illstar
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Posted - 2007.12.03 12:04:00 -
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The only gallante ship that I've been able to test out that I liked the look of was, oddly, the navitas. I think this is because the metal of the surrounding ship was much darker and complimented the blue nicely. However, I seriously think that either CCP needs to give us colour options on our ships or actually listen to us when we say that this new gallante colour scheme is just hideous and either change it back or change it to something which looks relatively decent. We miss our old colours, when we had a little variety.
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Kokkoro
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Posted - 2007.12.03 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Kokkoro on 03/12/2007 12:20:03 They all look like sh!t, who cares what color it is SUPPOSED to be.
CCP did a nice job redoing the models and details, only to completely drop the ball when texturing them. I only hope these are placeholder graphics and they haven't finalized them, otherwise gfg...
They new colors make me feel like I should be handing out blue or pink cigars if it's a boy or a girl...
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.12.03 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:41:26 Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:39:12 I petitioned ccp for fun about blue ships bug (lol)
They told me:
Quote: Thank you for contacting customer support. I apologize for the late reply. I appreciate your interest in our game, although our petition system is for player issues involving the nature of support. Unfortunately we cannot field player questions about design as this is not within the scope of customer support services. The request you have is along the lines of discussion. If you place your request on the forums, you can be assured it will get the due attention needed.
Best Regards, GM DuoDuo EVE Online Customer Support
Well, im was in the forums before ... and not that much attention was given by the company. Anyway, thank you for the generic colorsheme, thank you for your generic answer...
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Majickthise
S0G
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Posted - 2007.12.03 13:28:00 -
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Im curious, why are not all races being equally victimised with this new high vis; know your race color lameness
not seeing huge panels of red on the minmi ships...
no big swathes of blue on the caldari vessels...
amarr does have yellow/gold.. but then thats what theyve always had, and id be seriously worried if they werent yellow/gold.
why the design change? and isnt this light blue a little too close to the caldari blue anyway.. what ARE you thinking CCP Art Dept? is it a case of too many cooks spoil the broth?
send that french designer dude we saw in the fanfest vids down here.. let him answer for his sins against his virtual internet spaceship descendants 
rabble rabble rabble
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.12.03 13:42:00 -
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AMHA its because there is too much gallente ships
Visual NERF !!
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Austar
Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:03:00 -
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Personally I cant stand the baby blue, you might aswell stick a dummy in the front of every gallente ship and name it "wah! wah! wah! wah!". If the gallente ships are going to look this bad i'd rather have the colour schemes from the old graphics, at least I would retain some dignity in my megathron.
/Signed
CCP dont make me train minmatar just because all my ships look buttugly. I pay my money for this game, give me eye candy just like you did all the other races! PS omen is officially sexiest ship ever!
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:07:00 -
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maybe ccp want you to train minmatar ^ ^
- Real men tank hull. |

Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:38:00 -
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/signed.
Feel free to copy my sig. Save the nice looking gallente ships! |

dav
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.03 15:40:00 -
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/signed
get rid of the pasty looks on the gallente ships. that kind of green overdoes the pastel look. at least make it shiny or a greener green
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kurogauna Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:41:26 Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:39:12 I petitioned ccp for fun about blue ships bug (lol)
They told me:
Quote: Thank you for contacting customer support. I apologize for the late reply. I appreciate your interest in our game, although our petition system is for player issues involving the nature of support. Unfortunately we cannot field player questions about design as this is not within the scope of customer support services. The request you have is along the lines of discussion. If you place your request on the forums, you can be assured it will get the due attention needed.
Best Regards, GM DuoDuo EVE Online Customer Support
Well, im was in the forums before ... and not that much attention was given by the company. Anyway, thank you for the generic colorsheme, thank you for your generic answer...
So you added to the petition queue with a pointless petition about the colours of ships on Sisi... Congrats, that's probably the dumbest thing seen round here for the last year or so... 
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2007.12.03 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Lelulie Edited by: Lelulie on 03/12/2007 10:50:21 So what you're saying is that Gallente have to fly their ships in dark space with very little lighting in order to hide the hidious baby blue and allow our ships to look dark metallic with a hint of navy blue because of a system that has poor / limited lighting?
Ok...
Here's some pictures of that "hidious baby blue" for you:
Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 ...
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Mack Dorgeans
Camelot Innovations
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Posted - 2007.12.03 17:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vrenth Edited by: Vrenth on 03/12/2007 07:27:24 OMG. THE NEW COLOR IS GALLENTE GREEN. Did you not hear the man say "We remodeled our ships to get closer to our dream. We remodeled and retextured them to look more like our original concept art."
This color is not blue, its turqouise.. if you actually undock/change systems, you'll notice the color looks almost EXACTLY like the old green gallente lights. It is a very dark teal color. The "bluest" of the ships seen in the hangers is the thanatos. LOOK at the thanatos with non-omni lighting outside of a station...
Thanatos NOT BLUE
Yeah, that almost looks green, except it's in the shadows, and you're in a rather yellow-lit system. Yellow + blue = green. So, Gallente pilots must fly in those yellow light systems if they want green ships. If you want pink ships, fly in the red light systems.
Amarr and Caldari ships look pretty good to me in any light. I haven't seen the Minmatar ships in space, so I can't comment. However, the art department dropped the ball on the Gallente ships, and it should be addressed in some way.
Ideally, we'd all have the ability to customize our ship colors, but barring that, the Gallente scheme really needs to be improved. Then again, maybe CCP just wants even more Caldari ships out there.
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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kurogauna Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:41:26 Edited by: Kurogauna on 03/12/2007 12:39:12 I petitioned ccp for fun about blue ships bug (lol)
They told me:
Quote: Thank you for contacting customer support. I apologize for the late reply. I appreciate your interest in our game, although our petition system is for player issues involving the nature of support. Unfortunately we cannot field player questions about design as this is not within the scope of customer support services. The request you have is along the lines of discussion. If you place your request on the forums, you can be assured it will get the due attention needed.
Best Regards, GM DuoDuo EVE Online Customer Support
Well, im was in the forums before ... and not that much attention was given by the company. Anyway, thank you for the generic colorsheme, thank you for your generic answer...
Well, to be fair they said. Quote: If you place your request on the forums, you can be assured it will get the due attention needed.
And they're right, CCP has given it about the amount of attention it deserves (i.e. none) |

Taius Pax
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:20:00 -
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Oh and if anyone really hates their gallente ships and doesn't want them anymore, I'll be happy to take them off your hands. :)
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Majickthise
S0G
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Lelulie Edited by: Lelulie on 03/12/2007 10:50:21 So what you're saying is that Gallente have to fly their ships in dark space with very little lighting in order to hide the hidious baby blue and allow our ships to look dark metallic with a hint of navy blue because of a system that has poor / limited lighting?
Ok...
Here's some pictures of that "hidious baby blue" for you:
Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3
eh? fighters are painted in 2 shades of grey not cyan/teal/babyblue. grey is harder to discern on a fast moving object in the sky.
bit offtopic but if you wanted to achieve a similar camo effect in eve youd need a main base color of matt black, with secondary sections in a lighter more reflective material (that would reflect the local nebulae color). That should break up the recognisable outline of the ship. Oh and no blinky lights.
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DARTHxFREE
G.R.U.N.T
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Posted - 2007.12.03 18:49:00 -
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I like the new Galante look, now I don't feel sad that I can't run the new engine /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Mr NotSuspicious
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Posted - 2007.12.03 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kurogauna
I petitioned ccp for fun about blue ships bug (lol)
They told me:
Quote: Thank you for contacting customer support. I apologize for the late reply. I appreciate your interest in our game, although our petition system is for player issues involving the nature of support. Unfortunately we cannot field player questions about design as this is not within the scope of customer support services. The request you have is along the lines of discussion. If you place your request on the forums, you can be assured it will get the due attention needed.
Best Regards, GM DuoDuo EVE Online Customer Support
Well, im was in the forums before ... and not that much attention was given by the company. Anyway, thank you for the generic colorsheme, thank you for your generic answer...
THIS is why petitions take so long to get answered! Dont waste GMs time this this crap when they could be sorting out real problems, I'm sorry but if you think your getting your point accros to CCP by filing a petition your an idiot.
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