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Panimu
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Posted - 2004.04.18 14:08:00 -
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Shocky, with Dual Channel motherboards you have to use Slots 1+3 to get this functionality. With such motherboards it's a good preformance tip if nothing else, manuals will state this.
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vanBuskirk
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Posted - 2004.04.23 12:34:00 -
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Best practise for stability with your computer and EVE - uninstall EVE, throw the CD in the trash and cancel your account. That's what I'll be doing in about 2 weeks, unless they a) admit that they fouled up b) fix their mess c) reimburse for 4 wasted days.
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Shocky
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Posted - 2004.04.24 13:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Panimu
Shocky, with Dual Channel motherboards you have to use Slots 1+3 to get this functionality. With such motherboards it's a good preformance tip if nothing else, manuals will state this.
I know that, but Flaze said it was Hyperthreading that required certain memory slots not dual channel. Maybe you should read the posts a little more carefully.
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Megasaxon
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Posted - 2004.05.04 14:53:00 -
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very nice man...very nice...*STICKY* !!! 
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Lakota
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Posted - 2004.05.19 04:36:00 -
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You can still disable audio in the prefs.ini file. Just add the line:
audio=0
at the top and you're good to go.
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Lufio II
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Posted - 2004.05.19 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Lufio II on 19/05/2004 15:09:25
According to using mem slots 1 and 3: for the MSI Boards (using Neo2 PFISR myself) it''s clearly stated in the manual. Needed only for Dual Channel Mode (which in turn is needed for the P4 as I am aware of, due to it''s high FSB(800 MHz compared to 400MHz for the RAM).
According to performance with HyperThreading:
this technology emulates 2 processors to make use of idle cycles that a single processor still has at 100% load. Due to it beeing emulated as an SMP-System, you will need
a) at least win2k or XP Professional (no, XP Home won't do) and
b) an Application that can make use of SMP-Systems.
EVE don't belong to those, and as far as I know it, the only game engine making use of SMP-Systems is the Quake3 one. Most of the daily applications won't be able to make use of the second processor, unless you count stuff like Databases and 3D-Rendering systems to your daily work. So for the usual Gamer HT is quite useless, since it won't speed up their apps and probably will even cause a slowdown on most of them, while it can prove useful to the 3D-Artist using Maya or 3D Studio, which make use of any processor they can find and therefore utilising the resources that HT can shift free.
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should start using paragraphs right from the start at all.
and by the way: if you switch from Hyperthreaded to single processor and vice versa, you should reinstall Windows. The Multiprocessor Kernel is different from single processor and it's a hell to change it in a running system.
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Precursor
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Posted - 2004.06.08 20:19:00 -
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Actually, same thing happened to me. I just got Asus P4S800 mobo and 2 512 sticks DDR400 - I placed them naturally in slot 1 and 2 and my box did not even go to POST.
So Flaze, thanks for the info! I actually googled for this and this thread came up #1 in search, it just so happens that I also play Eve :)
This Page
is somewhat a proof to this issue.
So I'd say this is required, even though it might not be related to hyperthreading. However once you get new mobo and hyper threading CPU you can't really turn it off for the first time, can you Shocky? 
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.06.18 13:57:00 -
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I believe that Flaze just mixed up dual channel and hyperthreading. I used to mix those up myself a bit some time ago 
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Incub
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Posted - 2004.06.20 00:23:00 -
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LoL...
they're both very different things.
Dual Memory works a bit like Raid. but instead of harddisks it does it with memory :) it chunks the delivered data into pieces and devides it over the two memory banks so they can work simultanously.
Hyperthreading emulates that you have two processor so you can start two different threads of data at the sametime. in other words that your processor does two things two things at the same time.
i dont know why i replied but maybe someone was interrested :)
(btw some motherboards wont boot when memory is in bank 1&2 because it needs bank 1&3 to use dual channel. and its is automaticly turned on when it detects 2 pieces of mem ;-))
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Samia
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Posted - 2004.06.21 14:12:00 -
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So in a word, PC with Hyper-threading... Need to disable it or not??
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Tylinn Darkwood
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Posted - 2004.06.21 15:03:00 -
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I also have a P4P800, I have hyperthreading enabled and have no problems.
I also use memory slots 1 & 3... 512meg ram in each.
Not sure if these have anything to do with each other. But the combo works for me.
BTW... Intel P4 - 2.4 GHz
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.06.23 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Samia
So in a word, PC with Hyper-threading... Need to disable it or not??
If you use an os that doesn't support it, you should disable it. I believe windows 2000 has problems with it, while it works fine with windows xp.
If your computer is stable with it on, you shouldn't have to turn it off just to play eve.
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:29:00 -
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It doesnt matter what CPU you have. If you have 2.0ghz or more its NOT your CPU, unless of course your powerpack is too small. However, I will suggest having 1024mb of RAM, yes thats alot, but if you PVP the upload during it youll need it. Also I suggest getting a minimum of a 256mb video card. If you have played EVE for a long time youll know that those higher end graphics cards really help. So, its your RAM or your Video card, but its definately not your 2.0ghz anything. Even a celeron will take EVE at 2.0ghz or more, no problem.
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Dentali
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Posted - 2004.07.06 07:29:00 -
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It doesnt matter what CPU you have. If you have 2.0ghz or more its NOT your CPU, unless of course your powerpack is too small. However, I will suggest having 1024mb of RAM, yes thats alot, but if you PVP the upload during it youll need it. Also I suggest getting a minimum of a 256mb video card. If you have played EVE for a long time youll know that those higher end graphics cards really help. So, its your RAM or your Video card, but its definately not your 2.0ghz anything. Even a celeron will take EVE at 2.0ghz or more, no problem.
So is said. |
Zoriander
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Posted - 2004.07.06 15:07:00 -
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When you have 2 harddisks setup on a single IDE channel, install eve on the master drive (or copy it from the slave to the master drive). This will increase io throughput dramatically.
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Zoriander
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Posted - 2004.07.06 15:07:00 -
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When you have 2 harddisks setup on a single IDE channel, install eve on the master drive (or copy it from the slave to the master drive). This will increase io throughput dramatically.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.07 03:01:00 -
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I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
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Angry Dan
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Posted - 2004.07.07 03:01:00 -
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I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
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CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
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TAKI OKAWA
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:29:00 -
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Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
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TAKI OKAWA
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Posted - 2004.07.07 13:29:00 -
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Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
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Zoriander
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Posted - 2004.07.09 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Dan
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
Partitions and drives are quite different entities.
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Zoriander
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Posted - 2004.07.09 12:52:00 -
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Originally by: Angry Dan
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
Partitions and drives are quite different entities.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.08.05 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: TAKI OKAWA
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
Go to the directory where you installed EVE. In it, there is a folder named cache. Delete everything except the settings folder and prefs.ini (if you want to keep the settings). It's safe to delete everything in the cache folder, but you will lose your bookmark folders (the bookmarks will still be there but not in folders) and some other settings, but those other settings aren't too hard to configure again.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.08.05 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: TAKI OKAWA
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
Go to the directory where you installed EVE. In it, there is a folder named cache. Delete everything except the settings folder and prefs.ini (if you want to keep the settings). It's safe to delete everything in the cache folder, but you will lose your bookmark folders (the bookmarks will still be there but not in folders) and some other settings, but those other settings aren't too hard to configure again.
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Aspe
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:55:00 -
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I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes! 
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Aspe
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Posted - 2004.08.13 14:55:00 -
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I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes!
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Aspe
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Posted - 2004.08.14 16:51:00 -
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Anyone have ANY clues what it could be? I've posted off a support request, but I don't wanna wait several days! :(
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Aspe
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Posted - 2004.08.14 16:51:00 -
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Anyone have ANY clues what it could be? I've posted off a support request, but I don't wanna wait several days! :(
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Taumenka
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:44:00 -
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About 18. inte the second thread about stability issues
This is no strangy m8.
If you install WinXP it got diffrent settings in it for diffrent sytem mem sizes guess what happens if you remove 256 MB from something that expects 512 MB installed?
And about master and slave on disks and performance you guys are funny. Thumb rule is to not run disk swapping intensive tasks on the same disk as swapping occurs. IDE doesn't handle multiple request very well. If you want performance on IDE disks put them on seperate channels. A 15$ controller card will handle 4 more disks on separate channels.
To add to the stability issues(And paranoias about whats wrong):
For real stability look into a real memory solution ECC registered memory modules and a motherboard which has PCI and AGP ECC activated, and if you can afford that part of the deal why not get a UPS to stop some of those random reboots since som PSU is flawed on the market and reboot your computer if voltages drop to low for an instance.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
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Taumenka
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Posted - 2004.08.20 09:44:00 -
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About 18. inte the second thread about stability issues
This is no strangy m8.
If you install WinXP it got diffrent settings in it for diffrent sytem mem sizes guess what happens if you remove 256 MB from something that expects 512 MB installed?
And about master and slave on disks and performance you guys are funny. Thumb rule is to not run disk swapping intensive tasks on the same disk as swapping occurs. IDE doesn't handle multiple request very well. If you want performance on IDE disks put them on seperate channels. A 15$ controller card will handle 4 more disks on separate channels.
To add to the stability issues(And paranoias about whats wrong):
For real stability look into a real memory solution ECC registered memory modules and a motherboard which has PCI and AGP ECC activated, and if you can afford that part of the deal why not get a UPS to stop some of those random reboots since som PSU is flawed on the market and reboot your computer if voltages drop to low for an instance.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
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