| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page] |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Flaze
   |
Posted - 2004.03.09 12:26:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Flaze on 26/03/2004 05:41:47
Edited by: Flaze on 09/03/2004 13:28:17
EvE best practices for stability and smoothy sailing : 3:31 AM 3/9/2004
Overview:
This document covers various facts and information pertaining to the EvE client and keeping it running stable on your windows OS.
Things to do or know to help when troubleshooting EvE stability issues:
1. EvE requires Directx 9.0b as of this moment, get it here.
2. EvE installs with a utility called "logserver.exe". This ultility is found in the EvE root directory and can be used to pinpoint CTD's and other issues. Please note this utility will not help you with BSOD. This utility can effectively help you as well as the developers pinpoint your crash issue's effectively. You can view Pann's "how to use logserver.exe" here.
3. Always verify your drivers are upto date as they change often from manufacturers. This includes even windows latest patchs and service packs also which can be found here.
4. Clear your EvE cache directory from time to time. This directory is not very well cleaned up by EvE IMHO and can grow and grow. Contact a EvE representitive to properly clear your cache and understand this part/process if you do not know how and possibly believe you need to clear EvE's cache. ( this shouldn't be an issue but it has obviously helped many )
5. EvE seems to not shutdown as well as it should if crashed or even just quiting the game for various players. In many cases a "cold boot" of your PC may be required to effectively keep from becoming unstable. In many cases we have tested here, on three computers with various hardware, we have found inhierant issues concerning EvE shutting down and then becoming very unstable if it is played again without a cold boot of the computer.
6. "PLEASE NOTE : THIS WAS REMOVED IN THE LAST PATCH 1413 It no longer is available." - You can disable your sound in the "prefs.ini" to quickly see if you have issues with "sound or sound drivers" and see if the CTD's stop. This is done buy opening the "prefs.ini" file in notepad which is located in your EvE Cache directory. Change the line of "audio=1" to "audio=0" and then save the file. this will disable sound in EvE.
7. In some cases reverting back one or two driver builds can possibly stabilize your EvE if you are having serious issues with the latest drivers for your hardware. This should be used as a last resort option as latest drivers should be ok. It has helped a few people though.
8. If you have continued to try various solutions and get limited stability results, then you might possibly consider reinstalling Eve and maybe even your OS and start fresh and clean and see how it goes. This is a last resort, but in many cases this fix's alot of players issues. EvE is very hungry for video, sound, ram and even processor resources. Haveing a buggy, messy windows from long time usage or just poor management of windows can wreck EvE out definately and cause you serious stability issues.
9. If your computer uses "Hyper-threading" make sure you are useing slot 1 and 3 on your motherboard as Hyper-threading will not work well if at all using ram sticks in slot 1 and 2. This cause many people issues.
I am sure there is more but this is a good start....
If you are seriously having issues and have exhausted all your personal resources and feel you need to contact the GM's/DEV's/CCP, here are some of the do's and don'ts
1. Unless absolutely play stop you should petition under "other" for stability issues. My expieriences with the GM's and DEV's has been exceptional but you must exercise patience.
2. Be precise and clear and when possible present actual logs and documentation when responding or opening a petition. To help you effectively the GM's/DEV's will need correct and accurate information
3. You get more sugar with honey. Always be kind getting help. No one likes helping people who just ***** and offer no real information and just want to *****.
4. Try to stay with one representitive to eliminate redundant troubleshooting.
5. Stay with one petition and do not open multiple petitions for one issue. This will confuse you as well as the people helping you and also prevent you from being asked the same questions and given the same redundent troubleshooting task.
I hope this possibly helps someone out there play EvE more and enjoy it more if you are having issues.
Regards,
Flaze |
Jarelle
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 12:48:00 -
[2]
Some good tips there - worth a sticky?
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 12:53:00 -
[3]
feel free to add in anything that helped you get going better......if you see something missing ro know other solutions.....all feedback with good idea's and constructive help are appreciated:):)
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 13:12:00 -
[4]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 21/04/2004 14:19:05
Good post 
Some things to add (copied from a post i made in another thread) :
1. DirectX can be found here (or at Windows Update)
10. One thing many ppl don't do is update the drivers to the motherboard chipset. Do that.
VIA Chipset (download the Hyperion 4in1 Drivers)
nForce chipset (platform/nforce drivers -> unified driver -> your os)
If these don't work, install the ones from your motherboard manufacturer. Visit their homepage and download from there, don't install the ones on the CD as they are always old.
11. Try updating your gfxcard drivers :
ATI Radeon official drivers - Seems to work fine for me
Nvidia Geforce drivers
Omegacorner.com - Unofficial (?) Drivers for many gfx cards
12. Another thing to remember is to always uninstall the old drivers prior to installing new ones. Look in add/remove programs for them.
13. Turn off AGP fastwrite, as that causes problems in some cases.
14. Make sure the components don't get overheated. If that doesn't help, remove all overclocking and try underclocking.
15. In some cases, a memory module might be broken - there are memory testing programs at http://memtest86.com/ and http://www.memtest.org/ that might help locating a broken module.
16. I noticed that I couldn't start EVE when removing some memory. I usually run EVE with 512MB ram, but in this case I tried it with 256MB and it wouldn't start.
17. Not connecting the extra ATX power cord (2xyellow + 2xblack) from the PSU to the motherboard might cause stability issues, maybe the computer won't even start (all motherboards don't have this).
18. New flavours of windows are set to automatically restart instead of showing a bluescreen. You can either see what caused the restart by viewing the system log (win2k: control panel -> administrative tools -> event viewer) or you can change it so that windows doesn't automatically reboot (win2k: right-click my computer -> advanced -> startup and recovery -> uncheck automatically reboot). The bluescreen will give you (or a person who knows more than you about this issue) a clue to what caused the bluescreen.
19. Make sure that you have the latest patch applied. Sometimes there is a volontary client-patched released. If the patcher fails with a checksum error while patching the .stuff-files, you can try downloading them from here. If that doesn't do the trick, a reinstall might be necessary - but first try to download the patches again with another program, like GetRight or mozilla.
20. Don't connect to the test server (Chaos) with your main EVE program. Copy the whole folder to a new location and run from there. Don't connect to the main server (Tranquility) with a version of EVE that is patched for Chaos.
21. Make sure that your computer is grounded, and if it's on a network make sure that all computers on the network are grounded. In some rare occations, turning the powercord upside down (switching places between ground and phase) helps (does not apply to all kinds of electrical outlet, only those where you can push the powercord in in 2 ways - all outlets don't look that way).
22. Avoid interference to the modem line and/or network cable by making it avoid the powercords as much as possible. Shielded cables might be an option in some cases. If you have a lot of equipment plugged into the phoneline, the signal will get worse - it might be good to disconnect some when you're playing (if you connect with a modem).
23. Some recommended D3D settings :
* Enable fog table emulation : On
* Mipmap detail level : Highest
* Vertical Sync : Always On (You will get a higher framerate if this is off, but there will be graphical errors as the image is updated in the gfxcard memory at the same time as it's updated on the monitor).
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 13:23:00 -
[5]
Edited by: Flaze on 09/03/2004 13:40:55
Edited by: Flaze on 09/03/2004 13:26:48
ah i see the edit button...ok hehehe
thanks for the feedback and good response
yea update the BIOS of your motherboard...ecspecially if its a new one which will mean you will see a new bios probably not long after launch...maybe even two or three updates....as in..if your motherboard is newer then you will see a BIOS revision sooner as the board gets into the market and people see the issues and they write new updates....
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 13:23:00 -
[6]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 11/03/2004 09:21:22
 Quote:
thanks for the feedback and good response
np m8
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 13:34:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 09/03/2004 13:36:14
Quote:
yea update the BIOS of your motherboard...ecspecially if its a new one which will mean you will see a new bios probably not long after luanch...maybe even two or three updates....as in..if your motherboard is newer then you will see a BIOS revision sooner as the board gets into the market and people see the issues and they write new updates....
Just make sure that you know what you do - do it wrong and your computer won't start.
My motherboard must be VERY new - I already had the latest bios...
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.09 13:41:00 -
[8]
Yes...updating your BIOS is not for the novice computer user:)...contact a good PC vendor/repairshop if you are not sure how to do this:)
Flaze
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.10 01:18:00 -
[9]
Usually though a bios revision is a last ditch effort...but it can help possibly if your way out of date
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.11 09:20:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 05/04/2004 17:59:02
24. Firewall settings:
Open port 26000 tcp and 26001 udp to and from 157.157.139.10 and it should work.
More connection problem info here.
25. Supplied by Joshua Calvert (moved higher up so that ppl can find it easier) : "This utility combined with this guide improved my graphical performance for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro."
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.12 06:09:00 -
[11]
Nice find Scorpyn:)
thats good stuff.....
Flaze
CEO : R-U-OK
|
Vausti Erataux
|
Posted - 2004.03.15 12:35:00 -
[12]
For those having issues with sound being choppy and getting the ddhelp.exe error when exiting the game, try lowering your sound card hardware excelleration to basic. You may get an error when starting saying that EVE needs 12 channels, but will allow you to play. Since lowering my sound card Hardware Excelleration I haven't CTD''d once.
May be time to upgrade that sound card.
V
|
Eisha
|
Posted - 2004.03.15 22:12:00 -
[13]
Right now my roomate and I are using a Net Gear Wireless Router and Net Gear Wireless Iethernet cards. Class g. Are there any known issues with wireless networks? My roommates game seems to run fine but mine will periodicly freeze, and every now and then causes a reboot (Yes I have the auto restart turned off in XP).
"There is a ***** in everything,
thats how the light gets in." -Lenord Cohen |
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.15 22:58:00 -
[14]
If you are having possible collsion errors in your wireless lan, look in your routers logs or enable the routers logging to trap and see any collisions on the router.....the routers logs will tell you if you are having CTD's due to router issues....
many IT departments are getting rid of wireless lans and reverting to traditional hardwire for both security and stability concerning network connectivity...for me wireless just isn't quite there yet for power users and high end demands....EvE is power useing your PC even if your a low end user/gamer
as for documented netgear wireless issues....I am not sure...but a chat with the dev's in and "other petition" may offer more advice and resources
Flaze
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.16 12:35:00 -
[15]
If packets are dropped (for example if the signal is too weak), eve will disconnect. It shouldn't be able to make your computer crash though, so something else must be wrong aswell...
|
Shocky
|
Posted - 2004.03.23 21:03:00 -
[16]
Quote:
If your computer uses "Hyper-threading" make sure you are useing slot 1 and 3 on your motherboard as Hyper-threading will not work well if at all using ram sticks in slot 1 and 2. This cause many people issues.
Can you please provide a link to back this up? I'm not saying your incorrect but a link would be useful. seems odd because most intel motherboards with Hyperthreading use dual channel memory and the user doesnt have allot of choice when using two sticks of memory or even one for that matter. 
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 11:06:00 -
[17]
Shocky,
I have an ASUS p4p800 mother board and also an MSI NEO2 mother board...both are flagship motherboards from there respective companies.
In both cases neither motherboard would even barely load the OS before bluescreening or did BSOD on install when building them both, specifically because the rams sticks were put into slots 1 and 2.....now it is possible that intel boards are some how differnent....but i had to research it for a day or so until I figured it out. Who knows maybe it was a bug in the first runs since they are both new boards on the market when I got them. so I have no idea if its a manufacturer issue or hyper=threading issue
This was the very reason and only reason these two brand new boxes/motherboards wouldn't even barely run upon building them both side by side. Im no hyperhtreading authroity but I know slot 1 and slot 2 are wrong for my two boards listed above.....and I know many others who ran into the same issues and upon moving the second stick out of slot 2 and to slot 3 there funky computer become not so funky.....
I also have a good friend who just disabled hyperthreading for good and thinks its crap after replaceing all ram and everything to only find his box when overclocked took a big performance dump when combined with hyperthreading....so go figure........removed the Hyper-threading and wham the box literally screamed and benchmarks wnet through the roof
what ever you think about hyper-threading and such or what I think is nothing more then speculation and propaganda ...we are not hyperthreading developers or core deisgn engineers....so you have your opinions and I have mine and im not scouring the web to validate my opinion to you...I explained this to you in another thread also.....let others decide on there own and research it...im just offering possible solutions to those who have turned to other resources and solutions and are still having issues is all im doing
Flaze
|
Bactrian
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 14:11:00 -
[18]
Could someone post in here which cache files to remove?? I don`t want to empty the whole cache folder, as I have some files in there I`d like to keep
|
Shocky
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 19:14:00 -
[19]
Quote:
Shocky,
I have an ASUS p4p800 mother board and also an MSI NEO2 mother board...both are flagship motherboards from there respective companies.
In both cases neither motherboard would even barely load the OS before bluescreening or did BSOD on install when building them both, specifically because the rams sticks were put into slots 1 and 2.....now it is possible that intel boards are some how differnent....but i had to research it for a day or so until I figured it out. Who knows maybe it was a bug in the first runs since they are both new boards on the market when I got them. so I have no idea if its a manufacturer issue or hyper=threading issue
This was the very reason and only reason these two brand new boxes/motherboards wouldn't even barely run upon building them both side by side. Im no hyperhtreading authroity but I know slot 1 and slot 2 are wrong for my two boards listed above.....and I know many others who ran into the same issues and upon moving the second stick out of slot 2 and to slot 3 there funky computer become not so funky.....
I also have a good friend who just disabled hyperthreading for good and thinks its crap after replaceing all ram and everything to only find his box when overclocked took a big performance dump when combined with hyperthreading....so go figure........removed the Hyper-threading and wham the box literally screamed and benchmarks wnet through the roof
what ever you think about hyper-threading and such or what I think is nothing more then speculation and propaganda ...we are not hyperthreading developers or core deisgn engineers....so you have your opinions and I have mine and im not scouring the web to validate my opinion to you...I explained this to you in another thread also.....let others decide on there own and research it...im just offering possible solutions to those who have turned to other resources and solutions and are still having issues is all im doing
Flaze
Right So your basing that on a problem that you are having and again you are supplying no links to back this up as an "real" technical issue. Perhaps you should remove it as I seriously doubt it will apply to anyone else or specify what motherboard(s) it effects as you might misslead people with what you have posted.
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 20:09:00 -
[20]
shocky quit trolling this thread...
go play eve or something....i explanied it nice..now im telling you flat out...your trolling .....no one cares but you about this...
all you did was quote me and question everything over and over cause you feel you are some god with hyperthreading or something...who cares..it worked for me and I dont care if its differant for you or something....
last time i feed the troll
Flaze
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 20:11:00 -
[21]
Quote:
Could someone post in here which cache files to remove?? I don`t want to empty the whole cache folder, as I have some files in there I`d like to keep
go here bro and read this...there is a section on exactly how to clear your cache corrcetly in this document
Flaze
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 20:16:00 -
[22]
Quote:
Quote:
Shocky,
I have an ASUS p4p800 mother board and also an MSI NEO2 mother board...both are flagship motherboards from there respective companies.
In both cases neither motherboard would even barely load the OS before bluescreening or did BSOD on install when building them both, specifically because the rams sticks were put into slots 1 and 2.....now it is possible that intel boards are some how differnent....but i had to research it for a day or so until I figured it out. Who knows maybe it was a bug in the first runs since they are both new boards on the market when I got them. so I have no idea if its a manufacturer issue or hyper=threading issue
This was the very reason and only reason these two brand new boxes/motherboards wouldn't even barely run upon building them both side by side. Im no hyperhtreading authroity but I know slot 1 and slot 2 are wrong for my two boards listed above.....and I know many others who ran into the same issues and upon moving the second stick out of slot 2 and to slot 3 there funky computer become not so funky.....
I also have a good friend who just disabled hyperthreading for good and thinks its crap after replaceing all ram and everything to only find his box when overclocked took a big performance dump when combined with hyperthreading....so go figure........removed the Hyper-threading and wham the box literally screamed and benchmarks wnet through the roof
what ever you think about hyper-threading and such or what I think is nothing more then speculation and propaganda ...we are not hyperthreading developers or core deisgn engineers....so you have your opinions and I have mine and im not scouring the web to validate my opinion to you...I explained this to you in another thread also.....let others decide on there own and research it...im just offering possible solutions to those who have turned to other resources and solutions and are still having issues is all im doing
Flaze
Right So your basing that on a problem that you are having and again you are supplying no links to back this up as an "real" technical issue. Perhaps you should remove it as I seriously doubt it will apply to anyone else or specify what motherboard(s) it effects as you might misslead people with what you have posted.
no im basing it off my personal expieriences and the literally 50-75 pcs I have repaired and seen this same issue come across many times...I dont care what hyperthreading does over at microsoft in its core technical guru design....what i do care is that across many differant boards early on it has caused issues...yea its prolly the manufactures marriage of the technology of hyperthreading to there motherboards chipsets and layout ....you must think im the only that buys ASUS and MSI motherboards....
i spent enough time on this hyperthread crap with you...
if your not happy go open up a thread and explain to the world how it works and show your uber technical skills in your own thread....
|
Shocky
|
Posted - 2004.03.24 22:07:00 -
[23]
Sorry, I was originally interested because I've never seen anything about hyperthreading requiring the use of certain memory slots to work correctly and would have appreciated a link to confirm this information you have provided.
If you can't confirm that what your saying is in fact true you should not post it as fact.
|
Cruiser
|
Posted - 2004.03.25 05:37:00 -
[24]
hmm, the line "audio" does not exist in my prefs.ini????
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2004.03.25 07:22:00 -
[25]
they removed it with the last patch....i cannot edit this thread cause it is stuck so i cannot update it...
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.03.25 17:02:00 -
[26]
maybe you could just add the line instead of edit an existing line?
|
Joshua Calvert
|
Posted - 2004.04.03 16:20:00 -
[27]
This utility combined with this guide improved my graphical performance for ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Lardarz B'stard
|
Posted - 2004.04.11 17:46:00 -
[28]
Nice posting guys.
I just had one question...
Has anyone found a way to retain your bookmark folders when clearing the cache yet? This has to be the biggest single annoyance for me in the game so far.
E.T. Radio - designed to enhance your flying experience....
http://radio.evesound.net:8000/evetrance.ogg.m3u |
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.04.12 01:55:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 12/04/2004 01:57:02
Quote:
Comment from Bingo
when i "clear my cache", i delete the following items (without loosing my bookmarks):
...EVE/cache/macho*.*
...EVE/cache/map/*.*
...EVE/cache/temp/*.*
...EVE/capture/gamelogs/*.*
I believe deleting everything in che cache folder except prefs.ini and the Settings folder will make your bookmarks stay in their folders, but I have not tested it...
|
Joshua Calvert
|
Posted - 2004.04.12 11:01:00 -
[30]
Scorpyn, it's correct.
I cleared my cache my deleting everything in the cache folder except prefs.ini and the settings folder and haven't had any trouble with bookmark folders.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Panimu
|
Posted - 2004.04.18 14:08:00 -
[31]
Shocky, with Dual Channel motherboards you have to use Slots 1+3 to get this functionality. With such motherboards it's a good preformance tip if nothing else, manuals will state this.
|
vanBuskirk
|
Posted - 2004.04.23 12:34:00 -
[32]
Best practise for stability with your computer and EVE - uninstall EVE, throw the CD in the trash and cancel your account. That's what I'll be doing in about 2 weeks, unless they a) admit that they fouled up b) fix their mess c) reimburse for 4 wasted days.
----------------------------------------------
"Violence is the last resort of the incompetent".
---------------------------------------------- |
Shocky
|
Posted - 2004.04.24 13:00:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Panimu
Shocky, with Dual Channel motherboards you have to use Slots 1+3 to get this functionality. With such motherboards it's a good preformance tip if nothing else, manuals will state this.
I know that, but Flaze said it was Hyperthreading that required certain memory slots not dual channel. Maybe you should read the posts a little more carefully.
|
Megasaxon
|
Posted - 2004.05.04 14:53:00 -
[34]
very nice man...very nice...*STICKY* !!! 
|
Lakota
|
Posted - 2004.05.19 04:36:00 -
[35]
You can still disable audio in the prefs.ini file. Just add the line:
audio=0
at the top and you're good to go.
|
Lufio II
|
Posted - 2004.05.19 15:05:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Lufio II on 19/05/2004 15:09:25
According to using mem slots 1 and 3: for the MSI Boards (using Neo2 PFISR myself) it''s clearly stated in the manual. Needed only for Dual Channel Mode (which in turn is needed for the P4 as I am aware of, due to it''s high FSB(800 MHz compared to 400MHz for the RAM).
According to performance with HyperThreading:
this technology emulates 2 processors to make use of idle cycles that a single processor still has at 100% load. Due to it beeing emulated as an SMP-System, you will need
a) at least win2k or XP Professional (no, XP Home won't do) and
b) an Application that can make use of SMP-Systems.
EVE don't belong to those, and as far as I know it, the only game engine making use of SMP-Systems is the Quake3 one. Most of the daily applications won't be able to make use of the second processor, unless you count stuff like Databases and 3D-Rendering systems to your daily work. So for the usual Gamer HT is quite useless, since it won't speed up their apps and probably will even cause a slowdown on most of them, while it can prove useful to the 3D-Artist using Maya or 3D Studio, which make use of any processor they can find and therefore utilising the resources that HT can shift free.
<Edit>
should start using paragraphs right from the start at all.
and by the way: if you switch from Hyperthreaded to single processor and vice versa, you should reinstall Windows. The Multiprocessor Kernel is different from single processor and it's a hell to change it in a running system.
</Edit> |
Precursor
|
Posted - 2004.06.08 20:19:00 -
[37]
Actually, same thing happened to me. I just got Asus P4S800 mobo and 2 512 sticks DDR400 - I placed them naturally in slot 1 and 2 and my box did not even go to POST.
So Flaze, thanks for the info! I actually googled for this and this thread came up #1 in search, it just so happens that I also play Eve :)
This Page
is somewhat a proof to this issue.
So I'd say this is required, even though it might not be related to hyperthreading. However once you get new mobo and hyper threading CPU you can't really turn it off for the first time, can you Shocky? 
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.06.18 13:57:00 -
[38]
I believe that Flaze just mixed up dual channel and hyperthreading. I used to mix those up myself a bit some time ago 
|
Incub
|
Posted - 2004.06.20 00:23:00 -
[39]
LoL...
they're both very different things.
Dual Memory works a bit like Raid. but instead of harddisks it does it with memory :) it chunks the delivered data into pieces and devides it over the two memory banks so they can work simultanously.
Hyperthreading emulates that you have two processor so you can start two different threads of data at the sametime. in other words that your processor does two things two things at the same time.
i dont know why i replied but maybe someone was interrested :)
(btw some motherboards wont boot when memory is in bank 1&2 because it needs bank 1&3 to use dual channel. and its is automaticly turned on when it detects 2 pieces of mem ;-))
250's are definitely more versatile, but All the cool kids are using 280's. |
Samia
|
Posted - 2004.06.21 14:12:00 -
[40]
So in a word, PC with Hyper-threading... Need to disable it or not??
|
Tylinn Darkwood
|
Posted - 2004.06.21 15:03:00 -
[41]
I also have a P4P800, I have hyperthreading enabled and have no problems.
I also use memory slots 1 & 3... 512meg ram in each.
Not sure if these have anything to do with each other. But the combo works for me.
BTW... Intel P4 - 2.4 GHz
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.06.23 13:00:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Samia
So in a word, PC with Hyper-threading... Need to disable it or not??
If you use an os that doesn't support it, you should disable it. I believe windows 2000 has problems with it, while it works fine with windows xp.
If your computer is stable with it on, you shouldn't have to turn it off just to play eve.
|
Dentali
|
Posted - 2004.07.06 07:29:00 -
[43]
It doesnt matter what CPU you have. If you have 2.0ghz or more its NOT your CPU, unless of course your powerpack is too small. However, I will suggest having 1024mb of RAM, yes thats alot, but if you PVP the upload during it youll need it. Also I suggest getting a minimum of a 256mb video card. If you have played EVE for a long time youll know that those higher end graphics cards really help. So, its your RAM or your Video card, but its definately not your 2.0ghz anything. Even a celeron will take EVE at 2.0ghz or more, no problem.
So is said. |
Dentali
|
Posted - 2004.07.06 07:29:00 -
[44]
It doesnt matter what CPU you have. If you have 2.0ghz or more its NOT your CPU, unless of course your powerpack is too small. However, I will suggest having 1024mb of RAM, yes thats alot, but if you PVP the upload during it youll need it. Also I suggest getting a minimum of a 256mb video card. If you have played EVE for a long time youll know that those higher end graphics cards really help. So, its your RAM or your Video card, but its definately not your 2.0ghz anything. Even a celeron will take EVE at 2.0ghz or more, no problem.
So is said. |
Zoriander
|
Posted - 2004.07.06 15:07:00 -
[45]
When you have 2 harddisks setup on a single IDE channel, install eve on the master drive (or copy it from the slave to the master drive). This will increase io throughput dramatically.
|
Zoriander
|
Posted - 2004.07.06 15:07:00 -
[46]
When you have 2 harddisks setup on a single IDE channel, install eve on the master drive (or copy it from the slave to the master drive). This will increase io throughput dramatically.
|
Angry Dan
|
Posted - 2004.07.07 03:01:00 -
[47]
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
++++++++++++++++++++
CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
|
Angry Dan
|
Posted - 2004.07.07 03:01:00 -
[48]
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
++++++++++++++++++++
CEO of the Space Munchkins.
Fear my kneepads of allure!
Huzzah Federation Foreign Minister - Ask about our tasty NAP's - Now in protein delicacy and cow flavour!
|
TAKI OKAWA
|
Posted - 2004.07.07 13:29:00 -
[49]
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
==================================================
Its not the size of dog in the fight but the size of fight in the dog which matters
================================================== |
TAKI OKAWA
|
Posted - 2004.07.07 13:29:00 -
[50]
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
==================================================
Its not the size of dog in the fight but the size of fight in the dog which matters
================================================== |
Zoriander
|
Posted - 2004.07.09 12:52:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Angry Dan
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
Partitions and drives are quite different entities.
|
Zoriander
|
Posted - 2004.07.09 12:52:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Angry Dan
I've found that having eve in on the same hard drive as the windows directory and swap file is a bad combination. I suspect that the eve cache and the swap file don't like each other. Simply installing eve to a seperate partition worked wonders for stability.
Partitions and drives are quite different entities.
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.08.05 08:00:00 -
[53]
Originally by: TAKI OKAWA
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
Go to the directory where you installed EVE. In it, there is a folder named cache. Delete everything except the settings folder and prefs.ini (if you want to keep the settings). It's safe to delete everything in the cache folder, but you will lose your bookmark folders (the bookmarks will still be there but not in folders) and some other settings, but those other settings aren't too hard to configure again.
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.08.05 08:00:00 -
[54]
Originally by: TAKI OKAWA
Hey Flaze i would like to know how to clear my cache directory?? I really have no idea!
Go to the directory where you installed EVE. In it, there is a folder named cache. Delete everything except the settings folder and prefs.ini (if you want to keep the settings). It's safe to delete everything in the cache folder, but you will lose your bookmark folders (the bookmarks will still be there but not in folders) and some other settings, but those other settings aren't too hard to configure again.
|
Aspe
|
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:55:00 -
[55]
I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes! 
|
Aspe
|
Posted - 2004.08.13 14:55:00 -
[56]
I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes!
|
Aspe
|
Posted - 2004.08.14 16:51:00 -
[57]
Anyone have ANY clues what it could be? I've posted off a support request, but I don't wanna wait several days! :(
|
Aspe
|
Posted - 2004.08.14 16:51:00 -
[58]
Anyone have ANY clues what it could be? I've posted off a support request, but I don't wanna wait several days! :(
|
Taumenka
|
Posted - 2004.08.20 09:44:00 -
[59]
About 18. inte the second thread about stability issues
This is no strangy m8.
If you install WinXP it got diffrent settings in it for diffrent sytem mem sizes guess what happens if you remove 256 MB from something that expects 512 MB installed?
And about master and slave on disks and performance you guys are funny. Thumb rule is to not run disk swapping intensive tasks on the same disk as swapping occurs. IDE doesn't handle multiple request very well. If you want performance on IDE disks put them on seperate channels. A 15$ controller card will handle 4 more disks on separate channels.
To add to the stability issues(And paranoias about whats wrong):
For real stability look into a real memory solution ECC registered memory modules and a motherboard which has PCI and AGP ECC activated, and if you can afford that part of the deal why not get a UPS to stop some of those random reboots since som PSU is flawed on the market and reboot your computer if voltages drop to low for an instance.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
|
Taumenka
|
Posted - 2004.08.20 09:44:00 -
[60]
About 18. inte the second thread about stability issues
This is no strangy m8.
If you install WinXP it got diffrent settings in it for diffrent sytem mem sizes guess what happens if you remove 256 MB from something that expects 512 MB installed?
And about master and slave on disks and performance you guys are funny. Thumb rule is to not run disk swapping intensive tasks on the same disk as swapping occurs. IDE doesn't handle multiple request very well. If you want performance on IDE disks put them on seperate channels. A 15$ controller card will handle 4 more disks on separate channels.
To add to the stability issues(And paranoias about whats wrong):
For real stability look into a real memory solution ECC registered memory modules and a motherboard which has PCI and AGP ECC activated, and if you can afford that part of the deal why not get a UPS to stop some of those random reboots since som PSU is flawed on the market and reboot your computer if voltages drop to low for an instance.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
|
Taumenka
|
Posted - 2004.08.20 09:45:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Aspe
I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes!
Sounds like a heat problem.
You may not belive it but EVE can acctually be more heat generating than those games. Try DOOM 3 which is the real heat generator and install a program that checks CPU temperature.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
|
Taumenka
|
Posted - 2004.08.20 09:45:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Aspe
I'm running a LanParty KT400A with the latest BIOS, Athlon XP-M 2500+ at stock speeds, an Asus 9600XT at stock speeds and have a fresh install of WinXP Home. I have the latests Omega drivers, the latest DX9 installed, and SP1. Cooling wise, my CPU doesn't get over 40 degrees C, my graphics card has a Arctic Cooling VGA Silencer and BGA Heatsinks on the RAM. Also my PSU is a CWT 450W model which is known for stability.
My machine handles all games I throw at it, including FarCry, Lock On, UT2004, CoD and others without a problem, yet whenever I play EVE it crashes my system and completely restarts the machine. It's then very unstable for the next 10-20 mins or so, either not POSTing or loading Windows completely and it's doing my head in.
Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this annoying problem? I'd really like to settle down and have a decent long session on this, but am currently not able to. All I can do at the moment, is log on, change what i'm learning, mine for a few moments and maybe get back to the station before it crashes!
Sounds like a heat problem.
You may not belive it but EVE can acctually be more heat generating than those games. Try DOOM 3 which is the real heat generator and install a program that checks CPU temperature.
Drink StarsiÖ
Are you Caldari enough?
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.08.25 08:44:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 25/08/2004 08:46:02
Yes, could be a heat problem... the fact that POST fails indicates that some hardware is bad/overheated, and since it usually works it seems more like a heat problem than a faulty hardware problem.
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2004.08.25 08:44:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 25/08/2004 08:46:02
Yes, could be a heat problem... the fact that POST fails indicates that some hardware is bad/overheated, and since it usually works it seems more like a heat problem than a faulty hardware problem.
|
Molly
|
Posted - 2004.09.20 13:55:00 -
[65]
Hmm...
--
Lord Nemesis > 14 days till mining barge lvl 5 then im strip all the ice in eve
|
Molly
|
Posted - 2004.09.20 13:55:00 -
[66]
Hmm...
--
Lord Nemesis > 14 days till mining barge lvl 5 then im strip all the ice in eve
|
Amos Sommers
|
Posted - 2004.10.13 15:45:00 -
[67]
Errr ... Flaze ... NEO2 is a AMD64 board ...
Member of The Predators Corporation |
Amos Sommers
|
Posted - 2004.10.13 15:45:00 -
[68]
Errr ... Flaze ... NEO2 is a AMD64 board ...
Member of The Predators Corporation |
LordXL
|
Posted - 2004.10.16 14:12:00 -
[69]
I'm having simular problems to the cold boots. I have a Intel D325XCV Extreem Edition (HT), P4 3.0 ghz (HT), inboard Intel High Definition Audio, PCI-Express Nvidia GeForce PCX 5300 128MB Video Card, 512MB 533 DDR2 Ram. All have the latest drivers and the Bios have been updated. DirectX 9.0c. I have no lag at all, running around 35 to 40 fps, but when ever I go to pick up loot cans or just sometimes out of the blue, my computer cold boots on me. This has happen to me thru 3 different PCI-Express Video cards. Over heating is not the issue, fixed that problem, and only cold boots with eve. I think eve just doesn't like PCI-Express video cards. Any suggestions on new technology, other then there isn't any support for it.
|
LordXL
|
Posted - 2004.10.16 14:12:00 -
[70]
I'm having simular problems to the cold boots. I have a Intel D325XCV Extreem Edition (HT), P4 3.0 ghz (HT), inboard Intel High Definition Audio, PCI-Express Nvidia GeForce PCX 5300 128MB Video Card, 512MB 533 DDR2 Ram. All have the latest drivers and the Bios have been updated. DirectX 9.0c. I have no lag at all, running around 35 to 40 fps, but when ever I go to pick up loot cans or just sometimes out of the blue, my computer cold boots on me. This has happen to me thru 3 different PCI-Express Video cards. Over heating is not the issue, fixed that problem, and only cold boots with eve. I think eve just doesn't like PCI-Express video cards. Any suggestions on new technology, other then there isn't any support for it.
|
Techie Zero
|
Posted - 2004.10.19 13:56:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Techie Zero on 19/10/2004 14:12:21
LordXL and other ppl.
Make sure you have a good enough power supply for your machine, Power Supply Check
Even if you installed the latest drivers, you may still have older driver components interfering. After you uninstall your old drivers in Safe Mode, use Driver Cleaner at Driver Heaven including the .cab cleaning function. Re-boot then install your drivers.
I am really pleased and amazed at how this utility has made my performance and given me better control of my system, TUNE-UP --- so pleased, I purchased it.
By using this utility you can easily see what crap you have loaded at start-up (google the stuff loaded if you don't know what it is, it could be spy-ware!) and eliminate the stuff you don't need by un-installing or forcing it to not load.
Go under Optimize and Improve and use the TuneUp System Optimizer wizard. Follow it's instructions.
Finally for those of you with the black or blank screens with ATI vid cards AND SERVICE PACK 2 FOR WIN XP, go out to ATI and use the new drivers they put out last week. That solved my problem.
Good luck.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
Techie Zero
|
Posted - 2004.10.19 13:56:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Techie Zero on 19/10/2004 14:12:21
LordXL and other ppl.
Make sure you have a good enough power supply for your machine, Power Supply Check
Even if you installed the latest drivers, you may still have older driver components interfering. After you uninstall your old drivers in Safe Mode, use Driver Cleaner at Driver Heaven including the .cab cleaning function. Re-boot then install your drivers.
I am really pleased and amazed at how this utility has made my performance and given me better control of my system, TUNE-UP --- so pleased, I purchased it.
By using this utility you can easily see what crap you have loaded at start-up (google the stuff loaded if you don't know what it is, it could be spy-ware!) and eliminate the stuff you don't need by un-installing or forcing it to not load.
Go under Optimize and Improve and use the TuneUp System Optimizer wizard. Follow it's instructions.
Finally for those of you with the black or blank screens with ATI vid cards AND SERVICE PACK 2 FOR WIN XP, go out to ATI and use the new drivers they put out last week. That solved my problem.
Good luck.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
Carinae
|
Posted - 2004.10.21 14:42:00 -
[73]
My P4, 2.2GHz, 256DDR RAM, Nvidia GeForce4 64Ram comp used to suffer from cold boots, I discovered that by turning off the sound in game stopped it.
By Shift + Alt + CTRL + F12 in game, removes sound and removes problem.
I think mine suffered cold boots due to a sudden noise, eg, another ship coming out/in of warp or a missile exploding near.
It is certainly worth a try. 
Warrior of the Ushra'Khan
Death to slavery |
Carinae
|
Posted - 2004.10.21 14:42:00 -
[74]
My P4, 2.2GHz, 256DDR RAM, Nvidia GeForce4 64Ram comp used to suffer from cold boots, I discovered that by turning off the sound in game stopped it.
By Shift + Alt + CTRL + F12 in game, removes sound and removes problem.
I think mine suffered cold boots due to a sudden noise, eg, another ship coming out/in of warp or a missile exploding near.
It is certainly worth a try.
Warrior of the Ushra'Khan
Death to slavery |
Ethan Kel
|
Posted - 2004.11.01 20:03:00 -
[75]
Thanks for a great thread. I've really learned a lot!
One question tho ?
Can I insert the following line into my .pref file ;
godmode=on ?
LOL j/k
|
Ethan Kel
|
Posted - 2004.11.01 20:03:00 -
[76]
Thanks for a great thread. I've really learned a lot!
One question tho ?
Can I insert the following line into my .pref file ;
godmode=on ?
LOL j/k
|
Sin Smith
|
Posted - 2004.12.03 19:21:00 -
[77]
If you're not native-English-speaker, then you may have some special alphabeth on your PC different from English. Then be sure that your user profile name (Windows2000 or XP) contains only English letters or you'll have to do this sometimes (when patching, for example):
Quote:
right-click on "My computer" -> Options -> Advanced (I'm not sure, but this is the translation) -> System variables. And change the default ways of TMP and TEMP to c:\TEMP (created it before). Patched. Edited that ways back to default "%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp"
Found 10 minutes ago by Sin Smith
Good always triumphs over Evil. So the winner is GOOD! |
Sin Smith
|
Posted - 2004.12.03 19:21:00 -
[78]
If you're not native-English-speaker, then you may have some special alphabeth on your PC different from English. Then be sure that your user profile name (Windows2000 or XP) contains only English letters or you'll have to do this sometimes (when patching, for example):
Quote:
right-click on "My computer" -> Options -> Advanced (I'm not sure, but this is the translation) -> System variables. And change the default ways of TMP and TEMP to c:\TEMP (created it before). Patched. Edited that ways back to default "%USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp"
Found 10 minutes ago by Sin Smith
Good always triumphs over Evil. So the winner is GOOD! |
Raxxus
|
Posted - 2004.12.12 01:00:00 -
[79]
Yippee....I've fixed all my BSOD and CTD by changing from my on-board sound to my old Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Soundcard.
I've not had one ctd so far and eve is very stable and can run run two clients without any problems.
RaXXus
|
Raxxus
|
Posted - 2004.12.12 01:00:00 -
[80]
Yippee....I've fixed all my BSOD and CTD by changing from my on-board sound to my old Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Soundcard.
I've not had one ctd so far and eve is very stable and can run run two clients without any problems.
RaXXus
|
Skinnerer
|
Posted - 2004.12.16 19:39:00 -
[81]
I fixed my cold boots by wiping my Windows off (Windows XP with SP2 and DirectX9c installed later), and rebuilt it using Windows XP with SP2 streamlined in the install.
I think SP2 or DirectX 9c (most likely the latter) has install issues, and messes up some DX drivers sometimes. It also knows a lot more MS drivers than before, and I can get away with MS drivers for my nVidia 5700LE card.
I need to run Eve in 98-compatability mode, but it's had no problems yet.
This is all after around 20  rebuilds of W2k, and XP with SP2-after-install.
Basically, if you need to rebuild a PC, read up about streamlining service packs, and burn a new Windows CD off before you do.
|
Skinnerer
|
Posted - 2004.12.16 19:39:00 -
[82]
I fixed my cold boots by wiping my Windows off (Windows XP with SP2 and DirectX9c installed later), and rebuilt it using Windows XP with SP2 streamlined in the install.
I think SP2 or DirectX 9c (most likely the latter) has install issues, and messes up some DX drivers sometimes. It also knows a lot more MS drivers than before, and I can get away with MS drivers for my nVidia 5700LE card.
I need to run Eve in 98-compatability mode, but it's had no problems yet.
This is all after around 20 rebuilds of W2k, and XP with SP2-after-install.
Basically, if you need to rebuild a PC, read up about streamlining service packs, and burn a new Windows CD off before you do.
|
BlackHole Bob
|
Posted - 2004.12.30 05:28:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Amos Sommers
Errr ... Flaze ... NEO2 is a AMD64 board ...
The MSI NEO 2 sitting under the desk here is Pentium 4...even have a clearview antec case and can see it...hehehe...maybe a NEO 2 AMD also out there....
By the way this is Flaze....
|
BlackHole Bob
|
Posted - 2004.12.30 05:28:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Amos Sommers
Errr ... Flaze ... NEO2 is a AMD64 board ...
The MSI NEO 2 sitting under the desk here is Pentium 4...even have a clearview antec case and can see it...hehehe...maybe a NEO 2 AMD also out there....
By the way this is Flaze....
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.01.05 14:45:00 -
[85]
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
By the way this is Flaze....
wb
|
BlackHole Bob
|
Posted - 2005.01.14 01:35:00 -
[86]
heya Scorpyn: I am sure I am unforgettable...lol...good to see you Scorpyn...
Oh by the way...i did my homework on MSI NEO2 boards...in the past 6 months NEO versions, from MSI, have become exclusive to AMD it seems....so no more MSI NEO 2 for intel
at least thats what stores are telling me....
and to think my roomie has a NEO 2 MSI board from 1 year ago that is pentium 4 based....
|
Hortas
|
Posted - 2005.01.23 04:24:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Hortas on 24/01/2005 23:52:14
I am crashing 5 to 5 minutes... (crash to windows desktop, no error message displayed... no blue screen, no system error, nothing!!! One second i am looking at Eve screen, the next second i am looking to windows desktop)
No matter if i am warpping, marketing, minering, etc...
I did everything from ClockMon to full OS reinstall... Now i dont have any VirusScan or Firewall, and any other software installed... only EVE... And the 5 minutes crash is still here!!!! I unnistaled my sound card, etc. etc. etc. and the problem is still here!!!!
I can play SWG, WoW and EQ2 all day long with no problem !!!!
EVE-support told me they could not help due to massive support demmand ATM...
Anyone can help me??? Please !!!!
P.S.: HI,
If I keep ALT+TAB to Internet Explorer, i never crash...
|
Marietta
|
Posted - 2005.02.01 03:54:00 -
[88]
I've been having a huge problem lately. Whenever I play EVE or any other online game like War of Warcraft my computer restarts and gives me an error (Hardware device failure reported by the CPU). Only started doing it a few weeks ago and I reformatted my computer, run memory test (all OK) but still does it. Its Athlon 64, 512mb, Nvidia FX5500 256mb graphics card, win XP home.
Any ideas would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.02.07 11:03:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Marietta
I've been having a huge problem lately. Whenever I play EVE or any other online game like War of Warcraft my computer restarts and gives me an error (Hardware device failure reported by the CPU). Only started doing it a few weeks ago and I reformatted my computer, run memory test (all OK) but still does it. Its Athlon 64, 512mb, Nvidia FX5500 256mb graphics card, win XP home.
Any ideas would be greatly apreciated.
Thanks
Sounds like some hardware is broken or about to get broken very soon 
Since it says it's reported by the CPU I assume that the CPU is about to go boom, but the only way to know for sure is to replace it and see if the problem goes away.
Try to diagnose it by removing as much stuff as you can and still use the system, if that doesn't help then you need to find a similar computer to lend parts from to test with. Unless the error message means something different, but I wouldn't hope for too much... 
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.02.07 11:06:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Hortas
Edited by: Hortas on 24/01/2005 23:52:14
I am crashing 5 to 5 minutes... (crash to windows desktop, no error message displayed... no blue screen, no system error, nothing!!! One second i am looking at Eve screen, the next second i am looking to windows desktop)
No matter if i am warpping, marketing, minering, etc...
I did everything from ClockMon to full OS reinstall... Now i dont have any VirusScan or Firewall, and any other software installed... only EVE... And the 5 minutes crash is still here!!!! I unnistaled my sound card, etc. etc. etc. and the problem is still here!!!!
I can play SWG, WoW and EQ2 all day long with no problem !!!!
EVE-support told me they could not help due to massive support demmand ATM...
Anyone can help me??? Please !!!!
P.S.: HI,
If I keep ALT+TAB to Internet Explorer, i never crash...
Install all windows updates, uninstall chipset drivers, graphics drivers and sound drivers, then download the newset chipset, graphics and sound drivers and install them. You didn't specify what hardware you were using so I can't help you with any links.
If that doesn't help, I'd try a BIOS upgrade. If you do that, don't forget to load bios defaults after upgrading.
|
Hortas
|
Posted - 2005.02.13 04:18:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Scorpyn
Originally by: Hortas
Edited by: Hortas on 24/01/2005 23:52:14
I am crashing 5 to 5 minutes... (crash to windows desktop, no error message displayed... no blue screen, no system error, nothing!!! One second i am looking at Eve screen, the next second i am looking to windows desktop)
No matter if i am warpping, marketing, minering, etc...
I did everything from ClockMon to full OS reinstall... Now i dont have any VirusScan or Firewall, and any other software installed... only EVE... And the 5 minutes crash is still here!!!! I unnistaled my sound card, etc. etc. etc. and the problem is still here!!!!
I can play SWG, WoW and EQ2 all day long with no problem !!!!
EVE-support told me they could not help due to massive support demmand ATM...
Anyone can help me??? Please !!!!
P.S.: HI,
If I keep ALT+TAB to Internet Explorer, i never crash...
Install all windows updates, uninstall chipset drivers, graphics drivers and sound drivers, then download the newset chipset, graphics and sound drivers and install them. You didn't specify what hardware you were using so I can't help you with any links.
If that doesn't help, I'd try a BIOS upgrade. If you do that, don't forget to load bios defaults after upgrading.
Hi Scorpyn,
Thank you for the help. I am using the "Soundmax Integrated Digital Audio" that is onboard on ASUS A7V600-X motherboard, and the driver i am using is ver very old (year 2003). I tried soudmax and asus site, but wasnot able to find a new version of the drive...
CCP told me my problem could be related to a "OGG Vorbis codec", but i dont mind what it is...
And the crash is still here if a unistall my audio card.
Can you or someone please help me ?
|
Selvina
|
Posted - 2005.02.16 00:49:00 -
[92]
Those of you using AMD 64 may have problems if they have installed SP2. Myself don't have it but many of my friends that have bought it has had problems with it. Offcourse it's not just Eve but other circumstances that has pointed out that removing SP2 on a machine with AMD 64 helps concerning stability. I don't know if this applies to Intels version of a 64 bit processor though.
Good luck 
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.02.22 12:51:00 -
[93]
When it comes to ogg, you're probably looking for this, but I don't really see how that could help if the sound is turned off...
Regarding AMD64, I've had some problems with the Cool&Quiet feature a while ago, might be good to test to disable it if you're having problems.
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.02.22 13:03:00 -
[94]
Hortas, what's your graphics card? And what windows are you running?
Anyway...
1. Download and install the via Hyperion drivers from here. If that fails, try the old ones from the ASUS page that can be found here. (uninstall any chipset drivers before installing the new ones)
2. Try to disable the soundcard in your bios, not just uninstall it in windows.
3. If you have fraps running, close it and run EVE without fraps for a while to see if it helps. Actually, try closing as many apps as possible, and see if it helps.
|
Cros
|
Posted - 2005.03.02 22:43:00 -
[95]
Truth be told it is not on most of the Players side of the fence. But rather on the EvE server side. I have been told, that my English friends have almost zero problems with service and connections, but all of my U.S. buddies have very very crappy server connection problems. I personally have applied all the stupid ideas, suggestions, FPS ,and other issues, pertaining to fixing the problem on (lol) my side. I have windows XP and 2000 server pro version and your full of it if continue to address it as a global American side player fault. I got a great idea instead of putting the blame on this or that player side how about fixin it your side.
Have a nice day. :)
|
KenshinHimura
|
Posted - 2005.03.11 11:55:00 -
[96]
I have problems when i warp into the vacinity of certain stations. I know this is wierd and i Petitioned it and they told me that it was most likely my graphics card. This angers me because I have just bought this computer, Dell 4700, in August 2004 and it still isnt good enough. I was wondering if any of yall have any idea besides investing in a several hundred dollar graphics card on a game that I already have to pay for. My graphics card type is named Intel(R) 82915G Express Chipset Family made by the INtel COrporation and has the chip type Intel(R) 82915 Family Graphics Controller. DAC Type Internal Approx. Total Memory 128.0 MB. I hope all the numbers and names that mean nothing ot me help yall in helping me .
By the way great post everyone, excpet shcoky, has helped greatly I believe.
|
Scorpyn
|
Posted - 2005.03.14 15:42:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Scorpyn on 14/03/2005 15:47:10
Originally by: KenshinHimura
I have problems when i warp into the vacinity of certain stations. I know this is wierd and i Petitioned it and they told me that it was most likely my graphics card. This angers me because I have just bought this computer, Dell 4700, in August 2004 and it still isnt good enough. I was wondering if any of yall have any idea besides investing in a several hundred dollar graphics card on a game that I already have to pay for. My graphics card type is named Intel(R) 82915G Express Chipset Family made by the INtel COrporation and has the chip type Intel(R) 82915 Family Graphics Controller. DAC Type Internal Approx. Total Memory 128.0 MB. I hope all the numbers and names that mean nothing ot me help yall in helping me .
By the way great post everyone, excpet shcoky, has helped greatly I believe.
The answer to that question is probably because your gfx card doesn't support hardware T&L, as stated here. In fact, I'm surprised the game even starts without it, but I suppose that it's doing some kind of software T&L. Maybe the check for hardware T&L is only done when certain objects are displayed, such as some stations as you mentioned. In any case, the game requires hardware T&L, as stated here.
I'm not sure, but I'd guess that you have a graphics card that's build into the motherboard. Those are usually a bit crappy and not really meant for games.
Drivers and stuff for your card can be found here.
|
Matthew
|
Posted - 2005.03.18 13:27:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Selvina
Those of you using AMD 64 may have problems if they have installed SP2. Myself don't have it but many of my friends that have bought it has had problems with it. Offcourse it's not just Eve but other circumstances that has pointed out that removing SP2 on a machine with AMD 64 helps concerning stability. I don't know if this applies to Intels version of a 64 bit processor though.
Good luck
Most of these problems are connected with SP2's support for the NX bit on the A64's. The NX bit is a new hardware security feature designed to catch and stop the use of buffer overflow exploits. Unfortunately, like most new things, it has some issues that haven't been properly ironed out yet, and sometimes catches legitimate activity. Versions of windows before XP SP2 don't support the NX bit, so ignore it and work fine.
You can disable SP2's use of the NX bit, and thus regain pre-SP2 stability on the A64. It invovles changing your boot.ini, so the option /noexecute optin becomes /edxecute optin - but I can't remember the exact details of doing that right now.
|
Makotar
|
Posted - 2005.03.31 03:14:00 -
[99]
For stability and speed(as well as playing 3 accts at the same time) I would suggest, for the speed part, checking your com port baud rates. With most computers, the com port is set by windows as default 9600 baud, but it can be set at 128000, will improve speed tremendously. As for maximizing performance and stability, try maxing your virtual memory. XP I believe has an upper limit of 4096, but some are set at 2208, cutting paging in half. Raise it to the limit, and you gain stability(especially for running multiple accts, I did this for a friend and he gained running 3.)
Garbage in, Garbage out, now do you know why your computer says error?
To Err is human, to really screw it up, you need a computer! |
Messerschmitt facility
|
Posted - 2005.04.02 20:44:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Messerschmitt facility on 02/04/2005 20:49:36
Edited by: Messerschmitt facility on 02/04/2005 20:44:18
I need help with my mother board.
I got a Sis735 over 3 years old and I never instaled anything.
Usualy XP handles evrything.
Do you think I should install the newst drivers for it, instead of letting XP handle? (if they exist, I wouldnt be surprized if the newest drivers would be 1 year old).
And if yes can anybody give me a link to theyr site? I couldnt find it.
The most closer link I found is:
http://www.digit-life.com/articles/sis735/
P.S.
Quote:
For stability and speed(as well as playing 3 accts at the same time) I would suggest, for the speed part, checking your com port baud rates. With most computers, the com port is set by windows as default 9600 baud, but it can be set at 128000, will improve speed tremendously. As for maximizing performance and stability, try maxing your virtual memory. XP I believe has an upper limit of 4096, but some are set at 2208, cutting paging in half. Raise it to the limit, and you gain stability(especially for running multiple accts, I did this for a friend and he gained running 3.)
Can you please exmplain exactely how we can cahnge these? I never heard of somthing like this. Would like to see if this will boost my FPS
_________________________________
A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
|
Chriss Almighty
|
Posted - 2005.04.03 15:20:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Chriss Almighty on 03/04/2005 15:20:24
See my TEMP FIX here:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3714&page=2
seems EVE has problems with too fast PCs
|
Andrue
|
Posted - 2005.04.06 14:49:00 -
[102]
Originally by: KenshinHimura
I have problems when i warp into the vacinity of certain stations. I know this is wierd and i Petitioned it and they told me that it was most likely my graphics card. This angers me because I have just bought this computer, Dell 4700, in August 2004 and it still isnt good enough. I was wondering if any of yall have any idea besides investing in a several hundred dollar graphics card on a game that I already have to pay for. My graphics card type is named Intel(R) 82915G Express Chipset Family made by the INtel COrporation and has the chip type Intel(R) 82915 Family Graphics Controller. DAC Type Internal Approx. Total Memory 128.0 MB. I hope all the numbers and names that mean nothing ot me help yall in helping me .
By the way great post everyone, excpet shcoky, has helped greatly I believe.
You was done. Well okay that's a bit harsh but the problem is that Eve needs a decent, top end graphics card in order to look as spiffy as it does. Nothing good ever came out of Intel graphics-wise (most of their crappy chips don't even support bitblt). What you have there is the cheapest graphics solution Dell could come up with inorder to keep the price down.
They did a good job where most people are concerned but for power gamers it's a waste of board space. Get a proper graphics card.
--
(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |
Andrue
|
Posted - 2005.04.06 14:52:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Makotar
For stability and speed(as well as playing 3 accts at the same time) I would suggest, for the speed part, checking your com port baud rates. With most computers, the com port is set by windows as default 9600 baud, but it can be set at 128000, will improve speed tremendously.
Yes - that will speed up the transmission of data over the serial link. That's a great tip for those poor sods still using an analogue modem but they are pretty much a lost cause anyway. For the rest of us the comm port is being used for the mouse (perhaps) and nothing else. It certainly isn't involved in supporting multiple concurrent accounts.
--
(Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |
Justinius
|
Posted - 2005.04.06 17:02:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Hortas
Hi Scorpyn,
Thank you for the help. I am using the "Soundmax Integrated Digital Audio" that is onboard on ASUS A7V600-X motherboard, and the driver i am using is ver very old (year 2003). I tried soudmax and asus site, but wasnot able to find a new version of the drive...
CCP told me my problem could be related to a "OGG Vorbis codec", but i dont mind what it is...
And the crash is still here if a unistall my audio card.
Can you or someone please help me ?
What a coincidence - I have almost exactly the same problem and have just put an ASUS A7V600-X on my system.
It's driving me nuts - there is no pattern, rhyme or reason to it.
If anyone has a solution to this I will be very grateful.
Thanks for the tip on the BIOS update - I'll try that, but it's irritating that a non-PC hardware engineer has to tinker with this side of it - I'd really rather not.
Jus
|
Cyber Baron
|
Posted - 2005.04.11 08:42:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Cyber Baron on 11/04/2005 08:43:40
Originally by: Hortas
CCP told me my problem could be related to a "OGG Vorbis codec", but i dont mind what it is...
Could you tell us please what CCP told EXACTLY about OGG Vorbis ? Cause I'm using this codec to listen to radio with Winamp and I'm a sad member of the CTD club...
Edit : However, I have random CTD even if I'm not listening to the radio. I would try to de-install OGG Codec if I only knew how to do it ! Maybe someone knows and can tell ?
|
Justinius
|
Posted - 2005.04.22 09:16:00 -
[106]
My problem is now solved.
It was due to the memory I am using - to try to match the bus speed of that and the main chip, the autoset up enabled a 16.0x multiplier.
Once I downset this and upped the FSB my system has been rock solid stable - where as previously it had fallen over almost randomly, but presumably whenever CPU load got above a certain level. Perhaps as you are using additional programs the increased load of these is doing the same for you?
As I am using the same MB as one of the other complaints above, that might be worth a look.
But it's good to be able to play without fear of crashing again.
|
Makotar
|
Posted - 2005.05.06 02:06:00 -
[107]
If you are hunting some good stability and speed, may I suggest the following old school ways of setup.
1. In your hardware device settings you can set the speed for your com port. Check control panel, settings, system, hardware devices, com port. Com port settings, check baud rate. If not set at maximum number, set it there(picture a water hose handling fire hose amount of water, if it's set to 9600 baud, that's what you are doing.
2. Carefully with this one, but if you feel lucky after the above, go back to settings, and find the virtual memory tab. Click it. Windows tends to have the memory paging set at 256m. You can set the minimum paging to 2048 and max to 4096(makes eve scream).
Finally, in settings, check the section that is Advanced, performance, click the window panel button that says performance. Will lower graphic quality a wee bit, but the reward is a much smoother eve experience.
For more old school tips(and info on running multiple accts) eve mail me.
To Err is human, to really screw it up, you need a computer! |
Makotar
|
Posted - 2005.05.06 02:09:00 -
[108]
Andrue, the com port also covers most hi-speed cable/dsl modems. Try the change and download some video, brother.
To Err is human, to really screw it up, you need a computer! |
Harvey de'Banger
|
Posted - 2005.05.08 01:25:00 -
[109]
An odd solution to my CTD problem.
*summary*
EVE began CTD constantly (even full system crashes) sometimes didnt even log all the way in. Only eve was crashing other games and apps run fine even multiple copies and high stress apps.
*My system*
My system is a P4, 2.4ghz. 1gig ram Ti4600 256mb Geforce4, soundblaster live(which I removed as part of troubleshooting) running most current WINXP. Motherboard is DragonLite by Soyo with current drivers. Onboard sound always disabled. Temp gauges and monitoring software for system temp, very cool running machine. Nothing overclocked.
*My connection*
Cable internet with only 1pc. Running ACplug and Clockmon to keep connection from ever timing out (never had the problem just being careful).
*troubleshooting attempts*
Reinstalled OS, EVE, all current drivers for MB, video, direct X, winxp. Installed AC PLug and Clockmon. Even replaced my ram with brand new sticks. Played with page file sizes. Formated HD and reinstalled all from scratch. Read all stability threads on this site. Made each adjustment then would check eve stability.
*final solution*
I went into BIOS and underclocked my RAM from 333mhz to 266mhz. Completely fixed all crashes. And yes this is underclocking the RAM. The MB and RAM completely support 333mhz and were configured correctly.
This is what worked for me. I offer no promises that this will solve everyones problems. And I still dont exactly understand why.
|
RotatoR
|
Posted - 2005.05.18 17:24:00 -
[110]
Edited by: RotatoR on 18/05/2005 17:28:34
Another odd solution to my problem.
*summary*
EVE forced my machine to CTD, total hangups or imminent resets. Sometimes every few nimutes, sometime once a day. Very very unpleasant and i lost some ships due to this. I had this problems over two months.
*My system*
My system is a Athlon Barton 3200+ (2500+ OC from 166 to 200MHz). 1gig ram @200. 128mb Geforce6600GT AGP, soundblaster Audigy 2, running most current WINXP. Motherboard is EPoX 8RDA3+, current drivers. Onboard sound always disabled. 7 8x8cm fans inside (on 6V), very cool running machine. Experiencely overclocked.
*My connection*
DSL internet 1536/256 with 2pc in total. Second PC is 24/7 torrent machine.
*troubleshooting attempts*
Reinstalled all current drivers for MB, video, direct X. Installed AC PLug and Clockmon. Cleared eve cache. Reinstalled game. Tested my ram with another sticks. Played with page file sizes. Played with expert BIOS settings. Power supply unit changed with 500W model. Set all overclocked values back to normal. Read all stability threads on this site. Made each adjustment then would check eve stability.
*final solution*
Made enough space on one partition, installed second XP on it, then drivers and game, all from scratch. Nothing else installed here. Machine is OC as usual. On second PC i share only one torrent and only on 50% of bandwith. Before it was over 80% with hundreds of active cennections. This completely fixed all crashes. I tested it over 2 weeks.
This is what worked for me. Maybe this helps to somebody else.
|
Deschain
|
Posted - 2005.05.25 23:13:00 -
[111]
well, I discovered that EVE has problems running on realtek high definition sound card (with front panel enabled) - built into intel motherboard. problem was when you start fight - sound starts to approach from many points/ect - system crashes down and dumps memory - nice blue screen...
I've tried everything - installing new realtek drivers, installing old drivers, reinstalling directX, using default microsoft driver - all same. I assume (again - just assume) that there might be problems with other realtek built in cards as they use similar chips.
I found perfect solution - disabled sound card in bios and put in creative audigy - so far everything is peachy :)
my system:
P4 3.2 on Intel« Desktop Board D915PBL board, 2Gb ram, Nvidia 6600GT with latest drivers - running on 2displays, eve usually is on secondary display in window mode - very smooth and nice.
so, I hope someone will find answer to "why the hell it crashes"
|
Kenya
|
Posted - 2005.06.09 17:42:00 -
[112]
Im getting alot of CTD's my system is all up to date as far as drivers go and Im now working on trying all the good info Ive read in this post. One question I have has CCP said anything about this problem anywhere? A link would be nice if anyone has one. Also all the ppl CTDing how many skill points do you have? I ask because if I play an alt with low skills i dont seem to be crashing as much. My main has over 19mil points and will crash with in 10 min of logging on, its a random crash (and time) I launch drones crash open a can crash just sit to long and try and move or do anything and its CRASH. Now if i play an alt I can fly around for 1 or 2 or even 3 hours before i might have a crash, I can open cans fine shoot and warp or jump systems fine with her and she only has 34K points. I was just wondering if anyone else has tested this out with an alt to see if there crashing more or less with less skilled toons.
|
Hawk Firestorm
|
Posted - 2005.06.19 20:09:00 -
[113]
Hyperthreading issue I think is kinda misleading I think.
If this was a real problem you'd see this occur with ALL applications you run on a rig not just one, due to the nature of how it's setup.
Eve is a single threaded application same as many and the OS will assign CPU time across the processors, as there's no threading related code in eve as far as I'm aware, if you feel this may be a problem with you and you have a older mobo update your bios, (not something for the weak hearted), but if in doubt seek out a professional to do it for you.
As far as Ram stick assignment, well I'm a IT eng of 20 years all I'd say is this, ALWAYS install your memory according to your manufacturers guidelines, DDR memory sticks should be installed in matched pairs on dual channel boards, not doing so you'll severly gimp your systems performance due to the restricted bandwidth on dual channel boards, and always use the brand and memory specs recommended for your mobo.
If you use asus mobo's I can heartly recommend geil memory, again due to the nature of how things work, problems with memory would show in all applications you run in general not just eve.
As for cache issues, well I think this is something that's kinda been pulled from earlier builds ya there was a true problem with cache, but this has been negated to a greater degree.
Yes eve prolly has the worst system for managing it's cache in the universe, but I've run eve playing daily all day every day for over a year without having to clear no probs.
Most instability probs I find are down to hardware setup and driver issues as a whole.
I tend to find the systems that have the severest probs tend to be ones using ATI cards for instance, one reason I don't install em on any system I build, and there always rock solid as a result as well as always using Intel chipsets. :)
Overall it's far more probable that your instability probs are being caused by the drivers, the hardware you've desided on (chipsets etc being a good stopping point), rather than cache issues etc.
But hey do what ever you feel works for you, and good luck to ya, I just wanted to give some professional advice on these 2 areas.
Personally I've never had these problems on my systems, biggest reason being I built em. :), and the hardware I chose to makeup the system.
|
Carufin
|
Posted - 2005.06.27 23:51:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Hawk Firestorm
I tend to find the systems that have the severest probs tend to be ones using ATI cards for instance, one reason I don't install em on any system I build
All in all a good post, but you should avoid getting religious over hardware. For instance, people playing EQ2 enjoy rock-solid performance under ATI x800 cards, and unplayable stuttering under Nvidia 6X00.
http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tech_support&message.id=92251
Over the years I've moved back and forth between these two card manufacturers based on the ebb and wane of performance and stability. The bottom line is simply get the best video card you can afford that has the necessary features for your game, and keep the drivers updated.
Currently I'm using ATI products, as they seem to provide better subjective image quality and color purity these days. That might change, in which case I'll move to whomever is superior at that time.
Aside from all the issues listed thus far are two important considerations for modern gaming hardware. Namely, heat and power.
Heat has become such a serious problem with modern CPU and Video cards that if you're not using water cooling you very likely cannot keep your case temperatures reasonable no matter how many fans you employ. This is why a new motherboard form-factor, known as BTX, is on the way...expressly designed for heat management.
If you don't have a temperature controlled room, take the sides off your case and use a quality, quiet room fan like 12 or 14" Sunbeam Reciprocating fan on low to blow into the case. Viola, overheating problems are no longer an issue. I use a $900.00 AMD FX-55 Cpu, and I'm not trusting any puny case fan(s) to keep it cool.
As for power, computer power supplies in the main are such unmitigated junk, and people spend so little money on them, it's just crazy.
Putting a $49.95 power supply into a $2000.00 gaming rig is just nuts. No matter what they say on the box, 600w or whatever, it's usually bogus. They rate them in cold-rooms where they never get above 80 degrees, then state that on the box. They never mention the most important specification, which is the amperage of the 12v rail.
There is really only one power supply suitable for a moderan gaming rig with power-hungry CPU, drives, and video. And that's the PC Power and Cooling unit.
http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=T51DX
It's amazing how much difference a good power supply can make for system stability. I'd never use less than this.
|
Mazzy Star
|
Posted - 2005.07.06 04:25:00 -
[115]
Regarding rule number 9.... that threw some people off in this thread.... hyper threading has nothing to do with memory being in slot 1&2 or 1&3.... It's ''Dual Channel'' that has a preference in that... and no Dual Channel does not work with just slots 1&2. Therefor hyperthreading prob should have never came up at all... o.O
|
JForce
|
Posted - 2005.07.18 04:26:00 -
[116]
My issue is I think vid card related. I have a Ferrari notebook, 1 gig of ram, ATI Mobile 9200 Pro with 128mb of RAM, and my issue really only happens when I run 2 accounts at once.
I've switched to running them from different locations/folders, but it hasn't made a difference. Basically after a while the graphics just crp out...go all blank, stuff starts flashing...is annoying, and something I'd love to fix...any thoughts?
|
TjanitN Tcroxlr
|
Posted - 2005.07.29 14:14:00 -
[117]
Edited by: TjanitN Tcroxlr on 29/07/2005 14:17:29
Originally by: Flaze
Edited by: Flaze on 26/03/2004 05:41:47
Edited by: Flaze on 09/03/2004 13:28:17
EvE best practices for stability and smoothy sailing : 3:31 AM 3/9/2004
1. EvE requires Directx 9.0b as of this moment, get it here.
It's been a while since the original post has been edited/updated. Does Eve still require 9.0b? Will 9.0c cause stability issues?
|
Datu Agimat
|
Posted - 2005.08.11 20:33:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Deschain
well, I discovered that EVE has problems running on realtek high definition sound card (with front panel enabled) - built into intel motherboard. problem was when you start fight - sound starts to approach from many points/ect - system crashes down and dumps memory - nice blue screen...
I've tried everything - installing new realtek drivers, installing old drivers, reinstalling directX, using default microsoft driver - all same. I assume (again - just assume) that there might be problems with other realtek built in cards as they use similar chips.
I found perfect solution - disabled sound card in bios and put in creative audigy - so far everything is peachy :)
my system:
P4 3.2 on Intel« Desktop Board D915PBL board, 2Gb ram, Nvidia 6600GT with latest drivers - running on 2displays, eve usually is on secondary display in window mode - very smooth and nice.
so, I hope someone will find answer to "why the hell it crashes"
OMG This is what I was looking for!!! :)
I petitioned this CTD bug and support just got bact to me to say "Disable sound...blah blah" stuff. Course, it was random CTDs and after 1 hr of play w/o sound I just couldn't take it :p
Anyway, I have a Realtek integrated soundcard as well so this may explain my own CTDs (note that CCP has said that the next patch should fix some sound card issues but not sure if this will cover it).
Looks like its time to start investing in a good audio card :p
|
Taram Caldar
|
Posted - 2005.08.22 17:13:00 -
[119]
I saw someone asking about CTD's due to the Wireless network. I'm in the same boat myself. Actually I'm considering going back to a land-line to the router (it's got 4 ports so I can).
The router and the system are even in the same room and I still have periodic drops. Wireless just isn't stable enough for gaming, imo. Unfortunately I'm going to have to suffer till I replace the carpet next year because I don't feel like peeling the carpet up to run a 50' cable under the carpet edges to get it across the room and under my desk.
I'm also having the cable company come out Tuesday to check those lines because not all my drops are accompanied by a loss of browser access so my LAN isn't always at fault I think some of it is network latency.
How tolerant of Internet Latency is the EVE client? It seems to drop pretty fast when the packet stream gets interrupted.
|
Dyson Howard
|
Posted - 2005.08.24 14:23:00 -
[120]
I've been fighting this problem also; and I currently have a Cable and a hardwire router.... I get regular drops from Eve, and I believe it is very sensitive to dropped packets. Wonder if there is any way the Eve client can be adjusted for this. BTW, done ALL the items listed in this forum over the last 3 weeks to try and fix this.
|
Dyson Howard
|
Posted - 2005.08.26 17:55:00 -
[121]
I found that on my router, I needed to provide Port Triggering for EVE, so that when EVE is running, the router firewall knows that a response from the EVE server back to my client is coming.
That seems to have resolved my 5 minute crashes, although the big test will be tomorrow when I'm on for several hours.
Don't think that was mentioned in here before, and the Port information is found in the Find Answers section of this site!
|
Lamienz
|
Posted - 2005.09.05 19:35:00 -
[122]
After days and days of searching, crashing, reinstalling, and updating.....it was my sound drivers all along.
----------------------------------------
Trying to bring truth to a galaxy of deception will only bring you pain... |
Flaze
|
Posted - 2005.09.18 04:43:00 -
[123]
There is a ton of good info in this thread concerining eve and stability....
Thank you all for this thread being stickied for well over a year and a half now....this is proof the community in eve is solid when good info like this is openly shared.
|
s4mp3r0r
|
Posted - 2005.09.27 14:51:00 -
[124]
topic name please ?
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
s4mp3r0r
|
Posted - 2005.09.28 12:43:00 -
[125]
thank u sir :D
Proud CEO of the I have a mirel yirrin corpse and do freaky things to it club.
Convo me ingame for details on how to join, and a free " I ♥ mirel yirrin Ö" Bumpersticker!! |
Yaman
|
Posted - 2005.10.17 03:17:00 -
[126]
good info but there's definately some errors in the tips for petitions...
ccp did NOT get back to me when I filed under "other" and their GMs are about as useless as **** on a bull.
they used to be better about a year ago, but I don't know what happened since then.
I have now logs from the logserver too. My directx diagnostic file, etc.
I don't know what anything means, I just need some help.
EVE keeps randomly crashing..
My drivers and everything are up to date. I'm completely confused.
HELP HELP HELP! PLEASE!!!!
|
B0rn2KiLL
|
Posted - 2005.10.23 19:26:00 -
[127]
something that might improve eve drasticly and cut down crashes by 50-70%
install eve on a different partition then ur Operating system. and give the partition its one 500MB of extra virtual memory. this will cut down sudden crashes, atleast ihope it does, it certainly did here.
the reason being how i see it is this:
when you install eve ont he same partition where your OS is, you force eve share the virtual memory page wit the system, which will slow down eve, and your OS at the same time, reducing effectiveness of thw whole system due to traffic of DATA of eve, and we all know eve is one hell of an application.
so if you install eve at a seprate partition, you give your OS its virtual memory back, and give eve its own fresh virtual memory. the only thing left to share is CPU and RAM, which isnt a problem these days, but hardisks are very limited still considering the technology.
hope this helps atleast one of ya guys :)
---
When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |
Flaze
|
Posted - 2005.10.26 17:06:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Yaman
good info but there's definately some errors in the tips for petitions...
ccp did NOT get back to me when I filed under "other" and their GMs are about as useless as **** on a bull.
they used to be better about a year ago, but I don't know what happened since then.
I have now logs from the logserver too. My directx diagnostic file, etc.
I don't know what anything means, I just need some help.
EVE keeps randomly crashing..
My drivers and everything are up to date. I'm completely confused.
HELP HELP HELP! PLEASE!!!!
I would look at your SOUND stuff....ecspecially if your sure you did all the good stuff to your vid as you stated....
disable your sound in eve and play it for a while and see if your crash's stop....
soundblaster and eVe are notoriusly famous for not being highly stable for many...some go great, others have issues with soundblaster or sound in general...
hope maybe this helps....
|
Kichi Kaze
|
Posted - 2005.11.01 17:25:00 -
[129]
This strategy solved my connection trouble:
I have 2 hard drives; one of 80 Gb and one of 300 Gb. EVE was installed on my H: drive (300 GB) and I had constant connection trouble. Whatever I tried, nothing helped. Recently I uninstalled EVE and moved it to my D: drive (second partition of my 80 Gb drive) and EVE ran smoothly and without disconnects.
So if there's anyone out there with 2 drives and the same trouble I had, try this out.
|
Ogrim Velothi
|
Posted - 2005.11.03 00:09:00 -
[130]
Check your IRQ's and make sure your video card isn't sharing an IRQ with anything. Winblows seems to like putting the first usb controller on the same IRQ as your video card...my bios doesn't allow me to specify which irq the usb uses so i just have usb completely disabled!
I believe this IRQ sharing would cause random resets of my computer, but only running specific games. Halo, Americas Army, and even Doom3 all ran fine but my computer would randomly reset when running C&C:Generals or Eve (much of the time eve would just immedately close).
Every once in a while I still get a blue screen with an error something like "driver irq not less than or equal blah blah <memory addresses> blah blah" I blame it on hardware and the fact that windows is possibly the worst OS ever. Too bad so many programs are windows only...I am a hostage.
To view your irq's you can click Start>programs>accessories>system tools>system information>hardware resources. You can see them all under IRQs or just the ones that are shared under conflicts/sharing. Strange how conflicts and sharing are under the same category. Maybe this is the winblows way of saying sharing is a hair away from conflicting.
In order to change IRQs you must enter BIOS setup and do it from there. You should be able to look this up in the docs for your motherboard.
So Eve could be the only program crashing or randomly resetting your computer and it could still be a system problem and not a game problem.
www.tweaktown.com <-- ANY gamer/OC'er should pracically live on this site. I have found the guides section to be particularly helpful.
www.tek-tips.com <-- the best set of tec forums I have ever found. If you have a piece of hardware, they probably have a forum for it. I'm not even kidding theres some seriously experienced ppl on these forums.
|
Whyte Fang
|
Posted - 2005.11.15 19:16:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Ogrim Velothi
Every once in a while I still get a blue screen with an error something like "driver irq not less than or equal blah blah <memory addresses> blah blah" I blame it on hardware and the fact that windows is possibly the worst OS ever. Too bad so many programs are windows only...I am a hostage.
Hiya....I am having this same type of BSOD problem. I will be going along great, then when I get together with some other members of my Corporation for some mining...I get this exact thing:
< IRQ not less than or equal......... >
I am running a Intel P4 2.8 GHz CPU, with 1 GB of RAM and a Nvidia Geforce 5200 Vid card with 256 MB ....
I will try the IRQ thing and see if that's the cause.....
Anybody have any other thoughts....its a real drag to not be able to team up with other people......thanks
|
SalSar Thiran
|
Posted - 2005.11.20 22:16:00 -
[132]
Edited by: SalSar Thiran on 20/11/2005 22:17:46
About the IRQ error, I got that recently myself. Try running Checkdisk, as it is a hardware issue. Something about how the drivers update... not really sure. But yes, running Checkdisk does fix the error.
|
Yaman
|
Posted - 2005.12.20 06:38:00 -
[133]
i found out my sound card was sharing an irq...
moved things around... couldn't completely get everything on their own irqs... my network card and usb are sharing.
at least the video card and sound card are on their own.
i have a very nice motherboard (i believe) it's old, but I bought it with control in mind. I can control a lot of things in bios and such.
I have to look over some settings in there for video and the ram clocking...but I don't remember all these problems in the past.
I have recently found out age of empires3 crashes for me randomly too. So does an old game, freespace2 (with babylon mod).
So I'm quite confused.
I updated all my drivers and the via 4in1's.
hardware:
Abit KR7A-133 motherboard
AMD 1600+
DDR RAM 768mb
Soundblaster pci 512 card (yes it's old and crappy)
Geforce4 ti 4600
---
other stuff installed in pci
- linksys card
- wintv card (maybe that's causing issues?)
any ideas?
thanks
|
J0hnny Kn0xville
|
Posted - 2005.12.26 19:28:00 -
[134]
Anybody else having trouble staying connected to server? I have broadband DSL and had no problem staying connected to game before RMR patch. Can some one please help? 
|
Ogrim Velothi
|
Posted - 2005.12.28 16:46:00 -
[135]
Originally by: SalSar Thiran
Edited by: SalSar Thiran on 20/11/2005 22:17:46
About the IRQ error, I got that recently myself. Try running Checkdisk, as it is a hardware issue. Something about how the drivers update... not really sure. But yes, running Checkdisk does fix the error.
I ran chkdsk and I've had no more blue screens (yet!) for about a week now. To think it was something simple like that Thanks SalSar.
|
comrade christopher
|
Posted - 2006.01.13 10:46:00 -
[136]
CTD issue - If you experience many random CTDs, especially if you're using WIFI, try to run traceroute software (i.e. ping plotter)on tranquility IP while playing eve.
I DO NOT recommend to use it as a solution, just a way to check if ic causes your problems, because it may produce unnescesary trafic if everyone starts to ping eve servers.
It helped me with my pre-RMR CTD issues.
|
Slaadi
|
Posted - 2006.01.24 03:45:00 -
[137]
For anyone with an Nforce *2* based motherboards.
Set your memory settings manually either through your bios or with nvidias system util, and set T(RAS) to 11 (Normally 5-8). Most memory install guides will recommend settings from 2.5-3-3-5(<-4th one is T(RAS)) and up, but for NForce2 based boards 11 seems to be the ideal setting.
Its a weirdness unique to that particular chipset, T(RAS) of 5-6 is actually a bit slower and really unstable, CTD's, reboots, BSOD's. Once I found the magic number when ripping my hair out trying to get Everquest II to run, all problems poofed and no (severe anyway) issues in Eve or anything else, even Prime95 was unable to cause any issues.
|
Embrace Death
|
Posted - 2006.02.13 18:29:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Embrace Death on 13/02/2006 18:32:25
Dualcore users Note: Forceing EVE to run on a single core instead of allowing it to use both results in better performance and fixes the jittery graphics..
Task manager > Processes > right click on process "eve.exe" > "set affinity" > Pick one core. (remember "core 0" is the first, "core 1" is the second)
I'ma find a shortcut syntax that does this on application startup..
Technical: The reason some dual core (or HT?) users might experience this jitteryness (or worse) is because windows is constantly switching eve.exe to the opposite core whenever it thinks that might improve performance.
~_~
Index of "How to avoid any risk for Dummies"
Chapter 1: Stay in Empire
Chapter 2: Log off at safespot if threatened
Chapter 3: Watch "players in space" and "local"
Chapter 4: Switch corps if war is declared on yours
Chapter 5: Equip 2 MWD and 5 warp core stableizers
Chapter 6: So you still got destroyed? Things you can do. See chap. 7 "Forum trolling and maintaining your carebear image" |
Mywad
|
Posted - 2006.02.23 23:46:00 -
[139]
Hi Everyone
Going back to 1st page i can confirm that putting memory sticks in slots 1 + 3 is common practice and is recommended in both of my motherboard booklets.
1 Asus A7V600
1 Abit NF7 Series
This is normal and if you put the sticks in 1+2 slots you will probably get crashes/lockups etc.
Probably old news now anyway.
|
Anterem
|
Posted - 2006.02.25 22:45:00 -
[140]
I like the idea behind the thread but I'm afraid I don't see how this is constructive. Expanding the game and adding more storyline is all well and good but none of the more major issues have been resolved.
I'm not trying to harp, Eve-Online staff need to seriously rethink their support matrix. Priority should always be given to stability in connection, info management, and the client side application.
If nothing else, the install should include some tips for WXP users to compensate for the program's pitfalls.
This relates to the game requiring cold boots to be played again. On top of that the in-game browser doesn't work and hasn't been corrected over the 2 year period I've been on and off as a player. When trying to connect to websites while eve-online is up (through internet explorer) network connectivity becomes unstable. I've gone through some rebuilds and various configurations, both hardware and software and all still resulted in the above CRITICAL erroring behavior.
I'd like to know what Eve-online support has been doing that's so time consuming...
</Rant>
|
Terazuk
|
Posted - 2006.02.26 12:29:00 -
[141]
Gosh what fun!
|
Calean
|
Posted - 2006.02.27 11:15:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Embrace Death
Edited by: Embrace Death on 13/02/2006 18:32:25
...
Technical: The reason some dual core (or HT?) users might experience this jitteryness (or worse) is because windows is constantly switching eve.exe to the opposite core whenever it thinks that might improve performance.
With all due respect, this is simply not true.
I've run a althon mp dual processor machine with eve for over a year, running multiple accounts and runs smooth as silk without having to set the affinity.
There is a problem with AMD dual core processors and windows. Updated cpu drivers apparently goes a long way to solving the issue.
You are correct that specifying the affinity is a work around in those systems, but the problem is not task switching. Remember your computer switches tasks dozens of times per second, to move the mouse and all other tasks, so if task switching caused stutter, it would occur on single cpu machines also.
Cal.
|
Dimitri H
|
Posted - 2006.02.28 05:26:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Anterem
I like the idea behind the thread but I'm afraid I don't see how this is constructive. Expanding the game and adding more storyline is all well and good but none of the more major issues have been resolved.
I'm not trying to harp, Eve-Online staff need to seriously rethink their support matrix. Priority should always be given to stability in connection, info management, and the client side application.
If nothing else, the install should include some tips for WXP users to compensate for the program's pitfalls.
This relates to the game requiring cold boots to be played again. On top of that the in-game browser doesn't work and hasn't been corrected over the 2 year period I've been on and off as a player. When trying to connect to websites while eve-online is up (through internet explorer) network connectivity becomes unstable. I've gone through some rebuilds and various configurations, both hardware and software and all still resulted in the above CRITICAL erroring behavior.
I'd like to know what Eve-online support has been doing that's so time consuming...
</Rant>
I hate to say this, but reading your problems, there's something wrong with your computer and various builds iteslf. Sure your ram isn't flaking out? I run EVE on both my desktop and latop, with IE and other stuff running in the background with no problems (laptop needed that workaround graphics stickie up top though)..
|
aldarrin
|
Posted - 2006.03.05 18:36:00 -
[144]
Most motherboards now use dual channel memory. The linked slots will be listed in your manual. However, slots 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 are usually paired. Putting memory in slots 1 & 2 (and not 3 & 4) will prevent most motherboards from being able to use the dual channel feature.
And last I checked (tomshardware.com) hyperthreading caused as many performance hits as boosts. Go dualcore.
Originally by: Shocky
Quote:
If your computer uses "Hyper-threading" make sure you are useing slot 1 and 3 on your motherboard as Hyper-threading will not work well if at all using ram sticks in slot 1 and 2. This cause many people issues.
Can you please provide a link to back this up? I'm not saying your incorrect but a link would be useful. seems odd because most intel motherboards with Hyperthreading use dual channel memory and the user doesnt have allot of choice when using two sticks of memory or even one for that matter.
|
Kray Raven
|
Posted - 2006.03.13 03:28:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Flaze
2. EvE installs with a utility called "logserver.exe". This ultility is found in the EvE root directory and can be used to pinpoint CTD's and other issues. Please note this utility will not help you with BSOD.
[/b]
What's CTD and BSOD? How about a help text in english.
|
Slamby
|
Posted - 2006.03.14 17:35:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Kray Raven
Originally by: Flaze
2. EvE installs with a utility called "logserver.exe". This ultility is found in the EvE root directory and can be used to pinpoint CTD's and other issues. Please note this utility will not help you with BSOD.
[/b]
What's CTD and BSOD? How about a help text in english.
Crash To Desktop
Blue Screen Of Death
|
Terry Holland
|
Posted - 2006.03.18 00:12:00 -
[147]
Hmph..
Well,i have the weird problem..I have Amd Duron 1.6ghz processor and 128mg Radeon 9250 Display driver and at the moment 512mg memory and today the game just freezed totally after i played 2hrs..This is my 2nd day "today" well,now it's 2:02am but anyway and i was doing this Mission where i needed to take some stuff from steel factory marine plant or something like that and game freezed and horrible loading continued for 15mins and then i got bored and made the fearless press of Reset button after trying ctrl+alt+del which didn't work..luckily nothing serious concerning Net happened and Registry Mechanic did the job..i think.. :)
I was able to check my remaining memory with ctrl+alt+del and it showed 28mg:s left :( Please someone tell me that can i still safely start to play without that happening again or do i need to wait until i have 1gig memory..?
Regards: Tero Alias Eagleheart1980
|
Starbuckzk
|
Posted - 2006.03.21 13:56:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Terry Holland
Hmph..
Well,i have the weird problem..I have Amd Duron 1.6ghz processor and 128mg Radeon 9250 Display driver and at the moment 512mg memory and today the game just freezed totally after i played 2hrs..This is my 2nd day "today" well,now it's 2:02am but anyway and i was doing this Mission where i needed to take some stuff from steel factory marine plant or something like that and game freezed and horrible loading continued for 15mins and then i got bored and made the fearless press of Reset button after trying ctrl+alt+del which didn't work..luckily nothing serious concerning Net happened and Registry Mechanic did the job..i think.. :)
I was able to check my remaining memory with ctrl+alt+del and it showed 28mg:s left :( Please someone tell me that can i still safely start to play without that happening again or do i need to wait until i have 1gig memory..?
Regards: Tero Alias Eagleheart1980
I'm a new player, have a similar system 1.6 AMD and 512 MB Ram different card though I think its a Ti4200 or something. I'm getting similar crashes also particularly when on autopilot and warping around stargates although my fps is very low and fluctuates greatly. I'm just assuming my system can't handle the busy areas. Will be interested to see if anyone has any comments. Am thinking of buying a new PC jsut for the game as it looks good!
|
Terry Holland
|
Posted - 2006.03.21 14:37:00 -
[149]
Well..
Now i've come to the conclusion that i'll install Sp2 and only then i'll play again..I'll buy the memory to 1gig from current 512 before playing though :) My mind is torn apart every evening and day after work cau'se i can't play this awesome&beautiful game.. :( I'll buy Ati Radon 9250 with 256mg of memory when it supports Directx 9.0c "if it ever does"..
I know that my Duron processor sucks,but i'm still gonna play after i have Sp2,1gig of mem and maybe with this current display memory which is 128mb..
Regards to all Eve Online players out there =)
-Tero Halonen-
|
Realamigo
|
Posted - 2006.04.02 07:16:00 -
[150]
I hope CCP will launch a Patch soon to fix AMD dual core problems.
Its starnge but EVE is the only program i have any problem with my new setup
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
ATI RADEON 1900XT
AMD 4400 dual core
1gb DDR 400Mhz
DUAL Raid used(4 disks)
|
Flaze
|
Posted - 2006.04.17 05:07:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Realamigo
I hope CCP will launch a Patch soon to fix AMD dual core problems.
Its starnge but EVE is the only program i have any problem with my new setup
ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe
ATI RADEON 1900XT
AMD 4400 dual core
1gb DDR 400Mhz
DUAL Raid used(4 disks)
I think if you go into windows I believe and set "processor affinty" to 0 ...your issue may end.....or something to this fact...i believe there is a Microsoft tech note on this very issue....maybe search the forums here cause someone wrote about it a while back...
|
Valdenous
|
Posted - 2006.04.18 17:10:00 -
[152]
Quote:
7. In some cases reverting back one or two driver builds can possibly stabilize your EvE if you are having serious issues with the latest drivers for your hardware. This should be used as a last resort option as latest drivers should be ok. It has helped a few people though.
8. If you have continued to try various solutions and get limited stability results, then you might possibly consider reinstalling Eve and maybe even your OS and start fresh and clean and see how it goes. This is a last resort, but in many cases this fix's alot of players issues. EvE is very hungry for video, sound, ram and even processor resources. Haveing a buggy, messy windows from long time usage or just poor management of windows can wreck EvE out definately and cause you serious stability issues.
Both of these are horrible ideas... I'm not beating on the poster of this info as I think most of what is there is good info. However the burden of responsibility falls on the developers to make EVE work with the latest drivers of products, the most popular products like Sound Blaster, and the Windows OS.
I have never had a game or application in windows fixed from a reinstall when using Windows 2000 and higher. If the driver is the issue, reinstall it, etc. Reinstalling windows is a long process done when people don't know the problem.
For me, I'll either petition a GM, use the log server to track it down, or just quit playing the game.
Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 and Warcraft III/WoW don't have issues with video and sound drivers, and the run quite well. Some bugs I understand... there's only so much you can fix, but crashes from anything, including drivers, is intollerable and the responsibility of the publisher to fix. We're here to play games, not work around QA issues.
----------------------------------
Noobing around, but becoming an expert miner. lol |
Von Jinkz
|
Posted - 2006.04.23 16:45:00 -
[153]
I reasently fixed what i thought was a grafic card related problem.. it turned out.. my computer wich is rather old.. only had a 300W power suply .... so as a last desperat atempt.. i put in a 400W power suply. and what do you know.. it totally fixed everything :)
(my problem was: total system crash when in combat in eve.. and or undocking, jumping.. and flickering grafics when lost things went on )
i hope this will help some :)
|
Loxion
|
Posted - 2006.04.24 18:14:00 -
[154]
Im having a similar problem to some people here, but either ive missed something or it hasnt been answered, not sure entirely.
Im running a P4 3Ghz, 2Ghz Dual Core DDR RAM, ATI x800GT 256Mb Graphics on an Elite Group PF5 Extreme motherboard with a 600w Jeantech Arctic PSU. My PSU (as reported by speedfan, which I understand can be a little inaccurate) never gets above 25-29 degrees with system temp maxing at around 45.
Randomly during the game (or at least ive not noticed a pattern yet) it totally locks up. The audio goes into a loop of the last fraction of a second of sound. I can do nothing at this point apart from resetting. Event viewer is not reporting any problems on reboot.
This problem appears only to be in EVE, I run other games .. Doom 3, FEAR, Quake 4, Dungeons and Dragons Online and various others without any problems.
Anyone got any ideas ?
Thanks in advance.
|
Nihils Astari
|
Posted - 2006.05.08 05:33:00 -
[155]
I have a similar problem. I have an AMD sempron 3000+ (pretty sure it's not dual core), 1 gig of dual-channel RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9800 pro. I can play Eve for 4 hours sometimes, but usually less than 45 minutes, and sometimes immediately upon loading it locks up the machine, requiring a reboot. Sometimes I get a black screen, sometimes I get a blue screen. Temperatures are always rising before the crash, but I have huge aftermarket heatsinks and fans on all the components with arctic silver thermal compound. I've replaced the power supply. I've tested the ram. The drive is defragged and scanned. This happens with the sound disabled or not. I clear the cache regularly.
Occasionally after a crash I get a message that the video driver crashed and the system had to be shut down to prevent damage. I don't play many other 3D games. I played wow to see if the problem happens there but it works fine with the resolution as high as I can get it. I installed omega drivers and since then it seems to go longer before crashing, but it still crashes. Happens docked and in space.
I'd replace the ATI card with a newer Nvidia, but it seems some have this problem with various brands of cards. I thought that perhaps continued overheating had damaged the card, but it still works fine other than in Eve.
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 :: [one page] |