well that's about it for whatever hopeful views of the csm I had. (after listening to the radio broadcast)

They are just a tool for CCP to use, nothing else. Always have been. Good intentions, but expectations and self flattery that has spawned from them defeat it's purpose.

And what I find hilarious are the ones that claim they have 'connections' and pound concrete to the media over these issues.

NO csm, those media outlets have connections with you because they will always try to get you to talk for as you said, website hits. They don't care a bit about you otherwise, or CCP and EVE for that matter.

The EGO that has grown of this group, to think that they have an ability to call for the player base to do something and the crowds will listen and follow, is just unbelievable. The preaching done by mittens and the lot thinking they know what's best for the whole of EVE makes me gag, CCP just needs to yank the CSM program and wipe it's hands of it.

He ordered goons to vote for him?

The last true GÇÿEVEGÇÖ expansions besides Incursions we had was, ****, years ago

Tyrannis, however, ate two expansion cycles to bring us PI, which basically no one uses, as a planned eventual dust link. But it doesnGÇÖt offer any real gameplay for EVE players.

/yawn

Who cares anyways?
When the game no longer is fun for you, find something else. When I finally get bored, I'll move on, until then, this is just stupid e-drama, and an ego boost for the members of the CSM for their illustrious non-positions within the community.

Given how easily Mittens flip flops on an issue how long you think it is till he stops caring about 0.0 and starts caring about something else... Everyone is all great that theyre nerfing High sec an all but what happens when the "your game" he wants to destroy becomes the game YOU play?

calling it now, Mittani is gonna ditch the whole "0.0 lobbying" thing and go straight to campaigning on a pro-PI platform.

Let's face it. If Mittens really has the balls and hates whats going. He would resign right away as protest. He's nothing more then a typical american politician.

I remember myself and hundreds of others saying a lot of the things Mittens is saying now months ago.

Why is this news now?

If you listened to the everadio thing, Mittens hardly even said one original word. It wa slike he was reading off an outline with buzzwords like farmville in space and flying in space

Said this earlier but it got buried;

Honestly, and this isnt cause I want the game to die but for a reason Ill make more clear in a second, I hope CCP stands up to the CSM, disbands them, tells them to go screw themselves or something. Simply put because if they bend to their pressure, whats to stop the CSM from doing this kind of thing every time they want a change. Then the CSM really WILL have become a monster.

Its like netotating with terrorists lol if you do it once you set a precedence and will have to keep doing it.

Ah, but if they DON'T give in to the CSM, then the playerbase that actually made EvE famous(the 0.0 crowd) will pretty much all leave, or completely turn their accounts over to their bots so they can RMT.

I think you slightly over-estimate the importance of this CSM.

tbh the way I see things is:

adding Incarna = ok
adding Incarna in deterrent of the rest of the other features = not ok


still think that if Incarna was totally optional from the onset (no, the makeshift "temporary" solution in the options IS NOT ok) like CCP promised, the community whiplash would be far less.

I think you slightly over-estimate the importance of this CSM.

Ah, but if they DON'T give in to the CSM, then the playerbase that actually made EvE famous(the 0.0 crowd) will pretty much all leave, or completely turn their accounts over to their bots so they can RMT. Eve isn't popular because of highsec, eve is popular because people hear stories about the crazy stuff going on in null, and want to check out the game that allows that. You lose the nullsec crowd, and eve will die a slow, stagnant death.

So its negotiate with terrorists or die,

Maybe. Or a sudden power vacuum in 0.0 could create invigorating turmoil over the scraps and herald a new age of cloaky bot trolling, ninja smallholding and unregulated ingame mischief on a scale that hasn't been possible for years now.

Sudden power vacuum in 0.0? How about increased capacity of DRF to hold all of 0.0.

The democratic system (flawed as it is in this game) got him to the CSM but he thinks there shouldnt be such systems in games. Maybe he realizes just how much damage he can do lol

I remember myself and hundreds of others saying a lot of the things Mittens is saying now months ago.

Why is this news now?

This has been unusual. I posted I can only take from this that the message itself is something that resonates with most of the playerbase and those who follow EVE.