that is a shame - I always found it strange that the eve ships don't move much faster than airliners, despite being in space.......

Never mind that ST weapons have ranges in the thousands of kilometers

Hundreds of Thousands to Millions.

Photon Torpedoes are Warp Capable.

Templars are warp capable

Templar would equate to a DeltaFlyer, both warp capable and deployable "fighters".

Torpedoes are another thing. . .

Every ST fight I have seen has taken place way within range of blasters

Their are a bunch that don't. The close range point blank fight was created for TNG. In the TOS they showed a ship fire and then switched to show another get hit leaving range ambiguous. Some scenes in TNG, DS9 and Voy showed the long range potential of weapons. For cinematic reason most fights were shown at close range though.

So that means ST tactics will bring them into range of my megathon which will pummel them with 7 huge chunks of antimatter every few seconds at close to the speed of light

Templars are amarr fighter drones deployed by carriers, deltaflyer is the suck

Warp me closer so I can hit them with my Sword!

Not that I am a ST geek or anything:p. . . but you do realize that the Delta Flyer has integrated Borg technology, upgraded advanced shields, advanced armor, phasers and photonic missile launchers, can go warp 6 and can be fitted with a transwarp drive, and is deployed by a carrier ship?

EVE ships wouldn't fare well against real life weapons let alone anything from most sci fi. Current missiles are faster and have bigger yields as well as having multiple warheads, artillery technology surpassing the destructive power of most EVE weapons was abandoned in the 1950s. FFS EVE ships don't even have point defence technology, even the RADAR fitted to modern Naval ships is better. EVE ships couldn't track the rotation of a basket ball from over 500km away.

EVE has equal or better firepower, speed, etc, but one key advantage: complete lack of ethical standards. While the Federation sits around discussing how horrible it is that there will be a war and how there must be a diplomatic solution, the EVE factions will send diplomats to stall the Star Trek factions until fleets arrive in orbit around each of their homeworlds and major planets. When those fleets open fire on the civilian populations below, surrender and submission to disarmament and eternal slavery will occur immediately.

Minmatar Republic and Gallente Federation side with the Federation.

They receive Warp Drive that does not need a Beacon to Function

, Sensors that can detect Ships Light Years away

Lock them in the Millions of Kilometers and Torpedoes that can be Fired at Warp Speed.

When the Caldari wished to leave the Federation and create their own society, the Gallente immediately uses orbital bombardment of civilian targets to force the Caldari back into line. When that failed, the Gallente fought a long and bloody war to reclaim "their" territory, even though the Caldari colonies had been established on planets outside of the Federation. They're in favor of freedom and democracy in the same way that the US is: they talk loudly about those ideals, but won't hesitate to kill you if you dare to use them in any way that they don't approve of.

The Minmatar get some sympathy for their status as slaves, but immediately lose it because of their reliance on terrorist attacks (such as wiping out the CONCORD HQ, with countless civilian casualties, as a mere distraction to free some slaves). And don't think that this is an isolated incident, top officials may make a show of stating their opposition to "a few rebels and criminals", but support for Minmatar terrorist groups is widespread all the way to the highest levels of the Republic.

If the Federation, or any other Star Trek faction, was stupid enough to make a deal with any EVE faction, that deal would last just long enough for the EVE faction to get all the information and technology they can. As soon as their Star Trek "allies" had nothing left to give, the EVE faction would not hesitate for a second before stabbing them in the back and forcing them into eternal slavery.

Too bad it takes too long to get anywhere (remember, a major plot point of Voyager is that it takes hundreds of years to cross the galaxy and get home, something you can do in EVE in a few hours at most).

The hilarious thing is that warp drive would only be useful in a war of conquest against Star Trek, since it would allow the invasion fleets to reach (and exterminate) the Star Trek homeworlds without having to construct a jump gate network.

Only when it's convenient for the plot.

Except over and over again we see much slower ranges and speeds, therefore we must conclude that million KM lock ranges depend on rare circumstances that can not be relied on in a random battle.

Not that I am an EVE geek or anything, but you do realize that the Templar has integrated Amarr, upgraded advanced shields, advanced armor, lasers and electromagnetic missile launchers, can go 3AU/s and, and is deployed by a carrier ship?

(Because quoting meaningless technobabble is better than having to learn the math to do a proper comparison.)



Err, lol? You do realize that an EVE weapon is capable of hitting a target 200km away effectively instantly, which is inconceivably beyond the speed any modern artillery weapon, right? And that the kinetic impact alone would cause more damage? And that EVE fire control systems (sensors, NOT the physical rotation of the turret which is what tracking represents) are capable of maintaining a 100% accurate lock on a target moving many times faster than even the fastest real-world aircraft?

ok after doing some quick googleing, and a little comparative math. I found that the sub warp speeds of EVE ships are laughable, but the warp speed of a BS is the ST equivalent to somewhere in the range of what would be considered warp 11-warp 12. because of this, tracking might be a pain and missiles/drones would be hopeless but rails/beams/artys could still be used effectively for 1-2 volleys by warping far ahead of a target, locking and firing as they approach, and possibly one more after they've passed.

Star Trek ships can fire while warping

I see you all ignored the Star Trek trump card....

that's like saying "I can only flick you, but I can keep flicking while I run.

also, I did neglect the acceleration, however EVE ships accelerate quite quickly, they will reach their max speed over about the distance covered by around 2 seconds at max warp.

also, ST ships do have to accelerate, it's just comparatively faster. and for inter stellar travel, considering a ST ship doing warp 9.9 the EVE ship would still win by a very large margin.