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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:00:00 -
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In my last dev blog, I mentioned the ISD program was undergoing changes and an increase in the size of the Community group. In recent e-mails and forum posts I have stated we are planning on a number of changes concerning the forums, both in rules and improvements, but have not been able to specify a deployment date.
At the end of tomorrow's (Thursday, 20 December) maintenance period for Tranquility, we will be deploying a number of forum improvements, a new Community Fansite page and changing our forum policies concerning warnings and bans.
The deployment of the changes also marks the last day of the volunteer forum moderation team, the Communications Relay Commission (CRC). In one form or another, they have been volunteering their time to ensure surfing the EVE forums are, for the most part, a fun and informative experience. EVE has grown tremendously under their watch and I feel they have played a role in that growth. Please join me in thanking them for their efforts.
Sorry I couldn't come up with a catchier title for the blog than Forum and Community Changes and Improvements.
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Pseudo Ucksth
Collegium Mechanicae
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Pseudo Ucksth on 19/12/2007 21:05:50
Peaceful times ahead? 
Finally? 
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Kylania
Gallente
Phoenix Industries
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:09:00 -
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Thanks for all you did for us CRC! You'll be missed.  A big welcome to all the new Community Groupies though! 
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:10:00 -
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Sad to see CRC go, you did a great job! And interesting times ahead, keep up the good work everyone!
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ISD Serathu
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:11:00 -
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May CRC rest in peace.
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
When Darkness Falls
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:11:00 -
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sad to see CRC go, but happy to see the nutcases who cause problems on the forums might start to disappear
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GM Zhainius
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:16:00 -
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<3 CRC, thanks for all you've done for us.
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ISD Rauth Kivaro
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:16:00 -
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It's been an honor and a privilege to be one of the volunteer mods. Best of luck to the new Community Team, and thanks to all CRC members, past and present.
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ISD BH Eshtir
ISD BH
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:18:00 -
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RIP CRC, ill miss these days, my fellow moderators and the work on the forums.
Good luck to the community team.
It's full of Stars
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:26:00 -
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Goodbye CRC, thanks for the great work and the fun we've had.
Wrangler
Community Manager
CCP Games, EVE Online
Email / Netfang
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Dark 0men
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:30:00 -
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 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Goodbye CRC, thanks for the great work and the fun we've had.
Originally by: CCP kieron
Permanent bans will be issued under special circumstances, such as threats of physical harm to a player or developer, posting of ****ography, racial slurs and epitaphs, etc.
Permaban Wrangler, please.
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Salvis Tallan
Gallente
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:36:00 -
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Sorry to see the CRC go, thankyou for all your hard work.
One thing I would like to see addressed is the current use of stickies in various sections. Many stickied posts contain links to guides, tools, information, links, etc. Some of these threads were made by CRC members, and it is vital that these sticky threads be consistently updated or cleaned, so new players are not left with dead links and are stuck posting the same questions over and over (I know this will still happen, but when they do we can link them to the correct post instead of repeating ourselves). Please have the new community group go over all of these stickies and make sure they are updated.
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ishina Fel on 19/12/2007 21:38:26
Regarding the new rules - especially if there's a player report feature coming, I'd like to know the team's stance on "clever" trolls/countertrolls.
For example, some threads may contain a viable topic or previously unknown information, but are created and worded for the express purpose of baiting a flamewar. These threads usually don't get locked, but there's a lot of bad blood flowing between the posters in there, and often some moderator will be "cleaning up" replies, yet not the more or less offending original post. How would you handle the case if a player reported such a topic? If you do consider it worth a warning, will you be actively looking out for such threads in the future? CAOD in particular could greatly benefit from this.
Also, sometimes people post pretty ridiculous things that make the average forum user slap their palm to their face and groan. Not because the poster is stupid, or because he's looking to bait flames, but just because of sheer laziness or prejudice towards a certain opinion. This will sometimes result in very sarcastic replies that are for all intents and purposes trolls and flames, but the average reader might feel that "they had it coming for miles". What if someone reported such a reply?
These are the finer details of forum behavior which cannot be clearly predicted by consulting the written rules, especially since the forum moderation goes case-by-case and thus shows little consistency.
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ISD Deckard Bishop
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:40:00 -
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so long CRC, and thanks for all the fish....
 
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GM Medigo
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:40:00 -
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Farewell CRC...You will be missed immensely! <3 <3 Much love!
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:54:00 -
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First I would like to add my thanks to the CRC for their efforts.
I am wondering if the first action of the new Community Group will be to send out first warnings to all posters on the forum 
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Popychacz
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:59:00 -
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First and foremost - why the bans are not linked to the game?
Right now everyone can 'burn' their forum privileges without any consequences. After those changes you will be able to burn for mere 6 months instead of indefinitely. It's not inviting, it's begging to be threadnaughted and as the effect of this everyone and everything of importance is already on SHC.
Since you have the unique advantage of linking forum accounts with actual players, why not use it further? For example, you could institute role based posting privileges, where people with certain role in game would be able show on forums as corporation spokesman. You could ease moderation burdens by giving corp directors option to edit posts and limit posting privileges on certain forums (read: CAOD). There is a lot fo potential here.
Alternatively, are you planning to embrace community hosting forums like Arena.Net (of Guild Wars fame) did? I'm talking about dev posts and maybe mini devblogs on those forums. They already handle moderation way better than than CRC ever did and you don't have to pay them a dime.
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 19/12/2007 22:22:27
Thank you CRC.
kieron - Why does the Terms of Service link to this thread
And your first mail to link is broken.
And so is the link for submitting a fan site.
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Bein Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:25:00 -
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I would consider removing that "No posting if you're in an NPC corp" rule from CAOD, since all it does is make alt posters make 1-man gimmick corps for their alts and people who leave player corps temporarily get their posts moderated, even if they're only between corps momentarily. The rule really doesn't do much.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:38:00 -
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The Role Play and Corporation forums will see a relaxing of the enforcement of minor flaming, but a post with contents of a harmful, racial or inflammatory nature will not be tolerated.
Am I reading that incorrectly, or are you reducing the level of moderation on CAOD? That place is is an intolerable mess, a joke, and a pit of dreck (and actually stronger words would be appropriate, but banned). It desperately needs to be better moderated, doing everything from scrubbing 1-man alt corp posts to cutting out threadnaughts and off-topic spam posts before they gain momentum.
So little meaningful discussion goes on there that it's appalling. It needs a heavy mod presence.
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Ztrain
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:45:00 -
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Yeah I view these changes as too little way too late.
CRC inept at best performance and lack of ability has allowed CCP forums to rot. All the good information and discussions aren't even on CCP controlled forums at this point. I don't fore see with people being told in their alliances to go to other forums CCP even being able to get back in control of the EVE community. Most links I see these day's are posted on non CCP forums. Where news and info is a lot more accurate without the propaganda Goon racist noise. Noise that has gone on for far longer then most respectable companies would tolerate.
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Originally by: Popychacz
First and foremost - why the bans are not linked to the game?
Right now everyone can 'burn' their forum privileges without any consequences. After those changes you will be able to burn for mere 6 months instead of indefinitely. It's not inviting, it's begging to be threadnaughted and as the effect of this everyone and everything of importance is already on SHC.
Since you have the unique advantage of linking forum accounts with actual players, why not use it further? For example, you could institute role based posting privileges, where people with certain role in game would be able show on forums as corporation spokesman. You could ease moderation burdens by giving corp directors option to edit posts and limit posting privileges on certain forums (read: CAOD). There is a lot fo potential here.
Alternatively, are you planning to embrace community hosting forums like Arena.Net (of Guild Wars fame) did? I'm talking about dev posts and maybe mini devblogs on those forums. They already handle moderation way better than than CRC ever did and you don't have to pay them a dime.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
That's the rough idea, yes. We still have in no way started thinking about what modules to introduce, what they would do or anything of the likes, but the idea is that.
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Marc Vestabule
Minmatar
Amnion Partners
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:52:00 -
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Does this mean that notable posters, such as Jade Constantine, will be able to return to the e-o forums?
My scroll wheel might not thank you but the forums would be a better place especially if Halseth Durn could be tempted back to put a few  under a Jade post again.
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:58:00 -
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CRC, you will be missed!
@Community team: How about an introduction of you guys and lads? Who and how many are you? It seems like CCP Saint is one of them, but is she the only one?
How about enforcing real strict rules in CAOD? The signal to noise ratio is still quite bad.
Will members of the community team be marked in another way than "real" devs? I really wonŠt like to check hundreds of posts with a golden bar because a mod wrote something.
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LASER WATCHER
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:11:00 -
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serious, does this mean that captaingordon will get a second chance and his game account back?
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:20:00 -
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Racial slur banning is all fine, no problems there.
Regarding IC forums (not that I necessarily use 'em much) but I take it, that in character racism and inflammation remain all fine and dandy?
E.g. hating on someone's character, because it's Amarrian, and trying to rouse the plebs to strike furious vengence against them?
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino
kieron - Why does the Terms of Service link to this thread
And your first mail to link is broken.
And so is the link for submitting a fan site.
I wrote up the blog in Word and it would appear some of the formatting corrupted when I copied and pasted over to the blog editor. As for the link, I have no idea. 
The errors have been fixed. Thanks for pointing them out.
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
Look ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait... |
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Verite Rendition
Quote:
The Role Play and Corporation forums will see a relaxing of the enforcement of minor flaming, but a post with contents of a harmful, racial or inflammatory nature will not be tolerated.
Am I reading that incorrectly, or are you reducing the level of moderation on CAOD? That place is is an intolerable mess, a joke, and a pit of dreck (and actually stronger words would be appropriate, but banned). It desperately needs to be better moderated, doing everything from scrubbing 1-man alt corp posts to cutting out threadnaughts and off-topic spam posts before they gain momentum.
So little meaningful discussion goes on there that it's appalling. It needs a heavy mod presence.
I have edited the blog to clarify the section in question. Yes, CAOD will see heavier moderation, the RP forums will see a relaxation as long as post content is kept in character and directly related to EVE. Updated text below:
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The Role Play and Corporation Corporations and Alliances Summit and Intergalactic Summit Role Play forums will see a relaxing of the enforcement of minor flaming as long as post content is in character, but a post with contents of a harmful, racial or inflammatory nature will not be tolerated.
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Vio Geraci
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:52:00 -
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I'm really looking forward to more codified rules, and to a more even-handed application of them.
"Trolling" is listed as being against the rules, but exactly what constitutes trolling has varied wildly according to the whims of whatever moderator happened to be dealing with it--and according to some people, whatever that moderator's in-game politics were.
As an example for how wildly the punishments varied, banning Captaingordon from the game was utterly unexpected and is not, so far as I can determine, a listed penalty under the forum rules. It was also unprecedented, as (quite a few) other people have committed very similar offenses and only had their forum privileges removed --no in-game consequences. Maybe he was being made an example of, whatever.
I dunno, it will just be nice to feel less at the whim of anonymous and possibly partisan volunteers, I'm really optimistic about the changes discussed in this blog.
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ISD Valorem
Amarr
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.12.20 00:21:00 -
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So long everyone!
It has been a pleasure to work with you all
Finally, a post from Valorem would not be complete without this:
*click*
<3
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GM Twinni
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Posted - 2007.12.20 01:27:00 -
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Good Bye CRC, thanks for all the hard work and time you put into the forum's. We will miss you.
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.20 01:43:00 -
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Nerfbat, wielded by Keiron, strikes GOONS, wrecking for a 6 month forum ban!
'Bout damn time, too!
Sad to see CRC go, so let me express my deep gratitude for all they've done for the community.
Now Recruiting. Join "Neogen" channel for details
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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.20 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 20/12/2007 01:46:23
Originally by: Vio Geraci
As an example for how wildly the punishments varied, banning Captaingordon from the game was utterly unexpected and is not, so far as I can determine, a listed penalty under the forum rules.
Pretty sure that discussing moderation and/or GM action is against the new forum rules, too! 
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
Yes, CAOD will see heavier moderation,
This to me is key.
Although the new warning system seems simpler for all, it still won't go nearly far enough. I want to see measures such as revealing the mains of NPC alts and 1 man forum corps, in-game muting of offending characters across all channels, and outright game bans for the most serious persistent offenders.
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Ket Halpak
Cold-Fury
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
Yes, CAOD will see heavier moderation,
Will this include moderation of posts that dont include any content other than one word, ie. 'welp'?
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Wrayeth
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:20:00 -
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Looks interesting. I expect we *may* be seeing individuals like Tank CEO and Jade Constantine posting under mains on the forums again sometime SoonÖ.
As for CRC, sad to see you folks go. Your efforts helped keep the forums from descending into complete and total chaos (as opposed to the semi-controlled chaos we have now). Thank you. 
-Wrayeth
n00b Extraordinaire
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pardux
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
The forum word filter will be updated and some words resulting in filtering of words like*****pit or ***** will be reviewed. Proper use of multiple definition words will not result in a warning, but improper usage will.
just remove the ******* censoring.
its useless and just stupid :|
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Vio Geraci
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: Vio Geraci on 20/12/2007 03:04:42
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Pretty sure that discussing moderation and/or GM action is against the new forum rules, too!
You had better hope being pedantic isn't against the new rules.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2007.12.20 03:31:00 -
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The forum needs 2 things:
- To send an e-mail whenever there has been a reply in thread since you last saw it.
- Be usable via the IGB
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.12.20 04:15:00 -
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How about seeing some bans for necroing? Lately, and at many other times, this has become a pox upon our boards.
Sure, some threads can be necro'd if they're still relevant, like that awesome Lego thread. But many others are just useless. People should be punished for obviously necroing useless threads. Hopefully the changes to the search function will help stop the accidental ones. It's the necrophiliacs I want to see punished.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 05:54:00 -
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Quote:
For all other community members, the warning/ban counter will be reset at the end of the normal Tranquility maintenance period on Thursday, 20 December.
Does this mean i can go an a trolling-spree now, insult everyone and his dog, post a lot of ****agraphy and get away with it, since the warning/ban counter will be reset in few hours ?
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Victor Valka
Caldari
Archon Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:00:00 -
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Flame Wars Episode 3 : Revenge of the Forum Whores
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ISD Santiago Cortes
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:53:00 -
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To the fine men and women of CRC it was an absolute pleasure working with you. Having met some of you, I cannot imagine a more dedicated, focused and ethical band of forum warriors exists.
We may move onto a new dawn but the new team have much to thank the old guard for.
Special congratulations to Jacques Archambault for leading CRC through these times despite many upheavals!
For those that I have had the pleasure of dealing with threadnaughts at 3 am, I salute you o7.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.12.20 06:57:00 -
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Quote:
The forum word filter will be updated and some words resulting in filtering of words like*****pit or ***** will be reviewed. Proper use of multiple definition words will not result in a warning, but improper usage will.
Nice to see some intelligence being put into those stupid filters.
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ISD Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
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Posted - 2007.12.20 09:04:00 -
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Hey guys, its been a absolute pleasure (most of the time  ) working with you. I have absolute confidence that the new team will be able to get the forums back to the caliber that it was at the high of CRC.
Thanks for all your emails of support for CRC over the time i have been in it, the fan threads, the hate threads and the threads which we have hi-jacked. They all go to contributing to a very interesting 14 months for me.
I have got to meet some awsome people within ISD and i wish them all the luck in wherever they go next.
This may indeed be the last time the man with the silly long name virtualy no one can say will be seen, i have become very attached to this name and i will be sad to see it go.
so ...
bye and be nice to each other in CAOD please
- Thanks Hutch.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.20 09:22:00 -
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Get rid of hte antiquated forums.
I want PM features, google-like search ability, replying only requres one click, update the ugli ass layout, etc.
For a major game, the forums are really antiquated.
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Komen
Gallente
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.20 09:42:00 -
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I would like to thank CRC for their efforts to this date. While not perfect, it was better than no moderation at all.
To the new Community Group, I wish you best of luck in your upcoming endeavors.
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Gallente
The Valley Forge Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.20 10:06:00 -
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Got a little thing I'm not clear on after reading both these comments and the News item:
1. Warning = no Action.
2. Warning = 2 weeks ban.
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Reset of Warning counts the 20th. December today I guess.
Now this is somewhat clear, and I don't really get warnings since I'm such a nice person. The thing I do wonder about is:
If I get my first warning somehow tomorrow doing something bad, well fine I'll fix the problem to the level of my skills, and I don't get "hurt", then 5 years after that I do something stupid again getting a warning, but this being my 2nd. warning I get a 2 weeks ban, well okay fair enough but I'd more see it as a second 1th. warning though. But imagine this going even futher say 20 years with 5 warnings now being 6 months at a time.
Do these warning counts gets reset again like every 5th year so to accomedate "nice" stupid people like me?
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.12.20 10:26:00 -
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Good luck guys n gals, and all the best. Its been an awesome time with all of you.
Signing off, one last time....
Jacques Archambault
Vice Admiral of CRC
Interstellar Services Department
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.12.20 10:40:00 -
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o7 CRC
Was a good time :)
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.12.20 11:31:00 -
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Yay less perm bans is good.
It was a shame to see poster such as jade constatine getting perma banned.
Anyways about the colours they don't look that good though. But ohwell I hope it will improve when the new forum is done(tm).
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ISD Cobray Aine
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Posted - 2007.12.20 12:41:00 -
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It's been a pleasure working with you, CRC, fly safe o7
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kappas. on 20/12/2007 12:54:54
Guess the only thing I'll say is please don't get too quick with the warning button for trivial things since the bans come quicker and more severe.
Only thing I'm concerned about, really.
Edit: This also explains why all of my emails to the mods have been ignored I guess
Edit2: Can the forum mods be given a different colour from the real devs at all? For instance, now if one of these mods posts "Thread cleaned, don't spam" it attracts a lot of attention to the thread since there are gold bars next to it.
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ISD BH Garik Michaels
ISD BH
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:14:00 -
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.... It was good while in CRC. Thanks Jacques and the entire team!
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ISD Bies
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:24:00 -
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Farewell CRC, it has been an honour and a pleasure working with you.
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HippoKing
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:42:00 -
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Hi
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Max Teranous
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:44:00 -
[56]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
:psyduck:
Max |
Revnant
Caldari
Uninvited Guests
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:52:00 -
[57]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
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Frygok
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:52:00 -
[58]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
I was here!
/report Hippo.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.20 13:55:00 -
[59]
I too would like to thank the CRC, I think you have done a great job during your time.
Interestingly I never once received a warning, guess I know how to behave.
Though, I am actually looking forward and hoping than some of the old forum personalities will reappear, like HippoKing up there.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:17:00 -
[60]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
Soup Hippo.
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Yggdrassil
STK Scientific
Black-Out
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:34:00 -
[61]
Let me first say that I have never ever recieved a warning for my posts, so it becomes rather clear that I don't have an agenda :D
The warning system seems fine, clear rules to abide.
One thing that might be missing is a time-out on the warnings.
If I should manage to recieve a warning today, and I get another one in one year or so, I would perhaps not feel that its "fair" to recieve a ban - mistakes do happen...
Dunno how long the time-out period should be. Perhaps 3 months or so, with an instant "reset" if you get another warning in the period (so if you get another warning before the first has timed out, BOTH warnings starts counting down from when you recieve the 2nd).
Yggdrassil |
OozoO
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:37:00 -
[62]
Edited by: OozoO on 20/12/2007 14:37:58
Free Kugutsumen!
Do not discuss moderator actions or troll in your sig. -Kaemonn Email if you understand and your sig will be unlocked.([email protected]) |
Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:46:00 -
[63]
I like the GM Red, the Dev Blue is too bright for me though.. 
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ISD BH Kreul Intentions
ISD BH
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:49:00 -
[64]
I absolutely loved being a moderator here on these forums. More so then just moderating was the group of people I have met and will continue to work with going forward.
I will miss the CRC and those taking up the forum moderation I wish you the best of luck, because well frankly we all know you will need it
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:16:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Laboratus on 20/12/2007 15:17:49
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
Hello!
\o/ for HK.
Xmas came early for the eve-o forums.
Edit:
On the new colors.
GM red is good.
The blue bar isn't quite as distinctive as the old gold bars and tbh the blue makes my eyes hurt.
___
P.S.
Post with your main.
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Anton March
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:29:00 -
[66]
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! You can't take my Valorem away!
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:36:00 -
[67]
Originally by: ISD Valorem
So long everyone!
It has been a pleasure to work with you all
Finally, a post from Valorem would not be complete without this:
*click*
<3
Ahh V, farewell... I shall miss you meddling in my posts! <3
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Quote:
If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:38:00 -
[68]
I'm a little sad to see CRC go after all this time.
Let's hope this new format will help make these forums useable again.
Oh, and it is great to see some old names back too.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
Toramii
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:49:00 -
[69]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
My my, look what the cat dragged in ... wb
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.12.20 15:51:00 -
[70]
Originally by: HippoKing
Hi
Signed.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - -
If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO
BOOO!! - Ductoris
Neat look what I found - Kreul
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Sebastien LeReparteur
Minmatar
Altera Odyssea
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:00:00 -
[71]
FEATURE REQUEST!
I want the ability to see or not signatures, graphical or not. That would be very good for my bandwidth usage!
PLEASE PLEASE!!
Originally by: Turin
The problem is, lately, your not carrying a nerf stick, but more like a small scale tactical nuclear nerf bomb.
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HippoKing
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:26:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Sebastien LeReparteur
FEATURE REQUEST!
I want the ability to see or not signatures, graphical or not. That would be very good for my bandwidth usage!
PLEASE PLEASE!!
Click the settings button on the left. There's a button there called "Don't show signatures."
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:36:00 -
[73]
Welcome back Hippo!
OT: Thanks to all of the CRC people <3
Originally by: Illyria Ambri
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Shigsy
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:59:00 -
[74]
o/
:D
♥ for da ccp team
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:41:00 -
[75]
thanks a million, duders |
Hubris
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:49:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Hubris on 20/12/2007 17:49:57
Originally by: OozoO
Edited by: OozoO on 20/12/2007 14:37:58
Free Kugutsumen!
THIS
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:58:00 -
[77]
And now where is Tank CEO heh?. Or does he still have a perma ban?
Oh noes, CCP are blue now.
That means i can't forum PVP them anylonger.
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HippoKing
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 18:16:00 -
[78]
Does Joshua Calvert still play?
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Kala Veijo
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:05:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Kala Veijo on 20/12/2007 19:09:07
That purple blue line! Mah eyes, MAH EYES! Giev golden bars of devstacular post baeck!!11
Edit: holy carp its actually blue.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:12:00 -
[80]
Originally by: HippoKing
Does Joshua Calvert still play?
Otherwise he should come back.
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brakespear
Minmatar
Wayward Brewing
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:20:00 -
[81]
Good changes all in all, sad to see CRC finally going though, g/l guys 
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zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.20 19:32:00 -
[82]
Those new blue bars are really hurting my eyes...
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Ohne
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:05:00 -
[83]
Originally by: OozoO
Edited by: OozoO on 20/12/2007 14:37:58
Free Kugutsumen!
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Vir Hellnamin
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:10:00 -
[84]
Originally by: zeeZ Exus
Those new blue bars are really hurting my eyes...
This.
CCP, any chance of setting it into something sell eye-hurting - or is this your scheme to move people to use eve-search.com only (no posts anymore ;) )?
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V.H.
"Entering MH means instant death. It's worse than 0.0. Even the asteroids shoot back." - Alex Harumichi, Gradient [GRD]
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Sarmaul
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.20 20:38:00 -
[85]
o/
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.20 21:00:00 -
[86]
you should of taken care to be careful of the purple line optical illusion. it's hard to see :)
thanks.
Official fanboy of jenny<
pink supporter!
looking to work in the art department with CCP, 3 years and counting. http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Dropthi |
Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.12.20 21:11:00 -
[87]
ZOMG HE BI-PASSED THE WORD FILTER D:
Tacky Lensflares in sigs ftw
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Audrea
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.12.20 21:37:00 -
[88]
No thanks from me though - I simply dont believe in moderation... and since eve isnt sold in regular stores - why does it need the children rating?
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Hamfast
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.20 22:10:00 -
[89]
I hope the New Forum Moderation folks will be available 24/7 to take care of issues as they pop up...
And while I am not to worried if a few random letters show up or are covered in *, every forum needs some form of moderator, if for no other reason, just to keep it (the Forum) from falling into Chaos...
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It takes 43 muscles to frown and 17 to smile, but it doesn't take any to just sit there with a dumb look on your face.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Shadow Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.12.20 22:35:00 -
[90]
Originally by: CCP kieron
At the end of tomorrow's (Thursday, 20 December) maintenance period for Tranquility, we will be deploying a number of forum improvements, a new Community Fansite page and changing our forum policies concerning warnings and bans.
Where is the fix to the fan submission page?
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Tozmeister
Caldari
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.20 23:38:00 -
[91]
Well, a few hours into the new regime in CAOD and it doesn't look any different to me.
except goons using complaint generators instead of the usual one liners.
+++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 23:52:00 -
[92]
I donŠt want to see the notifications of moved posts. Either remove them again, or make it configureable.
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ISD BH Pirlouit
ISD BH
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Posted - 2007.12.21 00:50:00 -
[93]
Well, well,
All good things come to an end.....
It was a pleasure to work with this fine CRC forum team and we had lot of "interesting" moments.
So farewell to jacques and the other including those with unpronounceable name (yup that you hutch)
Final note: for those being given a second chance, please do not waste it and enjoy the freedom to post again responsibly...
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Acacia Everto
Wings of Redemption
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.21 03:40:00 -
[94]
As long as you're going to do forum changes, I'd suggest making separate forums for character sales and GTC sales. It's hard to browse characters when 500 "3x30d GTC etc." threads clog up every page.
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Insidious
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.12.21 03:56:00 -
[95]
i hate the purple.
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N1fty
Amarr
Galactic Shipyards Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.12.21 10:24:00 -
[96]
CRC was overpowered TBH, needed a nerf.
Just kidding! Please don't take away Valorem
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2007.12.21 10:59:00 -
[97]
Nice, new colors.
I have new english word for them, it's FUGLY.
And thanks for reseting ban count! 
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari
System-Lords
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.21 11:04:00 -
[98]
Even the forums get buffed before Amarr!
Latest Video, Click Here!
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gordon cain
Minmatar
x13
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Posted - 2007.12.21 14:49:00 -
[99]
For the love of God I hope this stops the worthless Goons spam in Caod.
Most people I know have completely stopped reading the forums after this.
Gordon Cain
Never argue with idiots, they will just drag you down to their level, and beat you with experience. |
Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.21 15:55:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Xaen on 21/12/2007 15:56:19
Did it fix the two biggest issues with forum usability?
Namely:
Add a freaking preview button. This would cut the amount of user effort required to preview in half.Make the last character used the default. I couldn't count the number of posts I've seen where someone meant to post with one character, but the forums defaulted to whatever one it felt like instead. And to make matters worse, it doesn't remember. I actually went so far as to delete a character just so the forums wouldn't have the option of picking it for me.
Oh and also, the blue bars are eye-jarringly inappropriate. They don't match the rest of the color scheme at all. It hurts to look at.
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Jallem Sims
Minmatar
Exploring Blind
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Posted - 2007.12.21 16:49:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Jallem Sims on 21/12/2007 16:51:16
Edited by: Jallem Sims on 21/12/2007 16:50:18
Originally by: ISD Valorem
So long everyone!
It has been a pleasure to work with you all
Finally, a post from Valorem would not be complete without this:
*click*
<3
*Snip* move along please
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.21 18:03:00 -
[102]
Originally by: OozoO
Free Kugutsumen!
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Marko Zhang
Destructive Flatulence
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Posted - 2007.12.21 18:22:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: OozoO
Free Kugutsumen!
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Angelus Custos
Solis Singularis
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Posted - 2007.12.21 19:13:00 -
[104]
I mainly read chribbas RSS feed over all DEV posts nowadays, and this used to get me the small golden gems of the forums. Then I could trudge the other posts when I felt I got time.
What I have noticed is a great increase in dev posts consisting of *click*. Could it be that the new forum mods are devs, or is it just that devs do more moderation? Either way, to make the blue bar/splendid RSS feed the mark for amusing dev comments/real info they used to be, could perhaps mods get a different colour? Or give devs a tickbox that allows them to remove their bar when they are indeed only writing *click*?
I understand if it is not entirely possible to fulfill, especially when moderation on the fly is made by devs looking for player input etc., but I will put it forward anyway since I think it would improve your service .
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Siamese
Malevolent Intervention
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Posted - 2007.12.23 13:28:00 -
[105]
thanks, let the bannings begin and the forums to be readable again
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.23 15:29:00 -
[106]
if caod will be cleaner - its worth it
farewell to all those who were loyal components of ccp
Trashed sig, Shark was here |
Antea Lysandra
Macabre Votum
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.24 18:24:00 -
[107]
Here's a suggestion:
Fix the alliance listing. Is it impossible to fix the Alliance section?
Totally worthless content, due to being chronically out of date:
http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/
Most people go to for ranking anyway:
http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp
Could EVE-O feature this in an automated format?
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Bollibompa
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Posted - 2007.12.27 16:23:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Popychacz
First and foremost - why the bans are not linked to the game?
Right now everyone can 'burn' their forum privileges without any consequences. After those changes you will be able to burn for mere 6 months instead of indefinitely. It's not inviting, it's begging to be threadnaughted and as the effect of this everyone and everything of importance is already on SHC.
Since you have the unique advantage of linking forum accounts with actual players, why not use it further? For example, you could institute role based posting privileges, where people with certain role in game would be able show on forums as corporation spokesman. You could ease moderation burdens by giving corp directors option to edit posts and limit posting privileges on certain forums (read: CAOD). There is a lot fo potential here.
Alternatively, are you planning to embrace community hosting forums like Arena.Net (of Guild Wars fame) did? I'm talking about dev posts and maybe mini devblogs on those forums. They already handle moderation way better than than CRC ever did and you don't have to pay them a dime.
This is good questions, I would like answers to them also.
No, I still havent read all pages, but this post was too good to not quote, so I will even try not to think he's a bob guy.. ;)
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Narni
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Posted - 2007.12.27 16:28:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Ztrain
Yeah I view these changes as too little way too late.
CRC inept at best performance and lack of ability has allowed CCP forums to rot. All the good information and discussions aren't even on CCP controlled forums at this point. I don't fore see with people being told in their alliances to go to other forums CCP even being able to get back in control of the EVE community. Most links I see these day's are posted on non CCP forums. Where news and info is a lot more accurate without the propaganda Goon racist noise. Noise that has gone on for far longer then most respectable companies would tolerate.
Z
Here is a very good example showing why goons still should be allowed on CAOD, and, quite frankly, I'm tired of bitter bob posters.
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patteSatan
Feudal Unintelligible Swedish Knights
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Posted - 2007.12.27 16:36:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Nerfbat, wielded by Keiron, strikes GOONS, wrecking for a 6 month forum ban!
'Bout damn time, too!
Sad to see CRC go, so let me express my deep gratitude for all they've done for the community.
Nerfbat striking goons? Nerfbats strikes 2 ways, at least, thank god.
But you like the bob alts and mains, I guess, bad news for you then.
CRC, well, I guess sad to see you go, and I will miss the guy with that mexican name you cant pronounce.
...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
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trixterr
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Posted - 2008.01.10 03:28:00 -
[111]
are the forums ever going to be redone?
this constant log in 5 times to make a post is really annoying plus the search engine never finding anything your really searching for.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2008.01.16 11:23:00 -
[112]
I, for one, welcome our new moderation overlords. I hope they do as good a job as ISD has done.
Two things make me post here:
1) As mentioned above by someone else, make sure the new moderators maintain the stickies in the forums. The ship fittings sticky in the Ships & Modules forum is already missing the new ship types.
2) Why do the new mods have blue bars on their posts? I don't want to belittle their role, but they're not really devs. Every time I click on a blue bar thread thinking "Hmm, dev content" I get to read "Locked, CCP Mitnal". Great dev content. This also makes a mockery of eve-search's dev post finder.
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.01.17 05:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
I, for one, welcome our new moderation overlords. I hope they do as good a job as ISD has done.
Two things make me post here:
1) As mentioned above by someone else, make sure the new moderators maintain the stickies in the forums. The ship fittings sticky in the Ships & Modules forum is already missing the new ship types.
2) Why do the new mods have blue bars on their posts? I don't want to belittle their role, but they're not really devs. Every time I click on a blue bar thread thinking "Hmm, dev content" I get to read "Locked, CCP Mitnal". Great dev content. This also makes a mockery of eve-search's dev post finder.
Personally I think that's one of the greatest lock messages of all time, perhaps only beaten by *click* Valorem.
Yes we will be updating the stickies, some have been, others have not, we will be getting around to them in due course.
As for the blue bars, normal administrative tasks should now not be highlighted on the forums. Maybe more colours will be introduced in the future to further differentiate between various groups.
Mitnal,
Community Representative
EVE Online
CCP Games
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