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Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2008.01.01 01:46:00 - [61] Originally by: James Swindle Hahahahaha, just read all the posts that have been posted since i went out. I would never of posted it if people were going to take it so seriously Also the guy who said that you saved our arse in WW1 and WW2, you know....just...ssshh. WW1, you were barely involved and when you were...you were being typical gun ho yanks jumping over the trenches and getting shot into a swiss cheese like state (i could go on about WW1 but it is really too much effort). And as for WW2, i just can hope you can work it out for yourselves with these few words...Battle of Britain, again late to the war, the Ruskies, British intelligence/sabotage, etc etc. Now don't get me wrong, you helped a great deal in WW2...not really so much in WW1 (except with supplies). But you say you saved out arses is just a false statement. Tell that to the Marines at Belleau (spelling) Wood... you know... where a retreating french commander told the Marines marching to meet the Germans to retreat, the Germans are unstoppable (right when they where in artillery range of Paris)... the commander snapped back "Retreat hell, we just got here." What followed was the first ground engagement of the Marine Corps. Originally by: Tarminic Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
James Swindle Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.01 01:56:00 - [62] That does not mean you saved our arse in WW1.
shadyfox99 Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.01 02:00:00 - [63] Edited by: shadyfox99 on 01/01/2008 02:06:26 Personally I welcome our new (or old, i guess) English Overlords. Although if you were going to do this, you should have done it before the 2004 election. I also look forward to watching some decent soccer (feck, football) games here in the states. Anyway, Long Live the Queen! Edit: wow, just read the rest of the thread. People need to chill out! The OP was pretty funny, so everyone needs to get over themselves tbh.
James Swindle Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.01 02:18:00 - [64] I just relised the idiocy of me pointing out that it was a humour thread and not taking it seriously....and then for me to go ahead and get serious.
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2008.01.01 02:23:00 - [65] I think most of us appreciated the humor. Then we addressed the issues in a semi serious manner. I know this is all in good fun for me. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Kalahari Wayrest	Posted - 2008.01.01 02:34:00 - [66] I actually hadn't seen that, that's great __________________________ Indulge Me Consider Yourself Indulged - Immy ♥ Wow immy scored - Xorus
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.01 02:43:00 - [67] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny At least we have dentists 30 years too late - probably before you were born (i know how old the average muffin man is, btw)
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.01 04:35:00 - [68] Originally by: James Swindle Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The rest is old by about 7 years, but I'll just reiterate on this. Originally, Aluminum was spelled thus. It was only silly Englishmen who presumed that the discoverer didn't know what he was doing and misspelled the word. Thence they added the "i". Aluminum, however, is the correct spelling as intended. Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2008.01.01 04:45:00 - [69] Originally by: F'nog Originally by: James Swindle Then look up "aluminium." Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The rest is old by about 7 years, but I'll just reiterate on this. Originally, Aluminum was spelled thus. It was only silly Englishmen who presumed that the discoverer didn't know what he was doing and misspelled the word. Thence they added the "i". Aluminum, however, is the correct spelling as intended. Somebody on these forums caused me to look up the etymology of Aluminum. Was it you, sir? If so, excellent, and thank you. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Frezik Basically Outdated Stereo Equiptment	Posted - 2008.01.01 08:06:00 - [70] Originally by: James Swindle WW1, you were barely involved and when you were...you were being typical gun ho yanks jumping over the trenches and getting shot into a swiss cheese like state (i could go on about WW1 but it is really too much effort). I generally find that both the American who shouts "we saved you in WWI and II!" is just as ignorant of the facts as the European who tries to correct him. WWI was a stupid war with a stupid strategy and fought for ultimately stupid reasons. It was a European problem that America got dragged into. By that time, the major powers had already fought themselves into a stalemate. With the troops on all sides warn out, America could choose which side it wanted to win simply by providing fresh troops to that side. The de facto choice was the Allies. Without that, the war almost certainly would have ended in stalemate. Keep in mind that even after defeating Spain and Theodore Roosevelt's Naval expansion, America still had lingering feelings of isolationism that lasted until WWII. The Washington Doctrine left European problems for Europe to deal with. By all rights, America shouldn't have even entered the war. Shouldn't have even been giving supplies to England. Wilson was reelected in 1916 on the basis of keeping America out of the war (though he was forced to enter the war not long after). I can understand why a European would feel resentful of an American trumpeting the success of WWI and II, but I can't say it's a wrong statement, either.
annoing Amarr MisFunk Inc. Frontline.	Posted - 2008.01.01 10:12:00 - [71] Edited by: annoing on 01/01/2008 10:12:43 Originally by: Antodias Scouse is almost as bad as Welsh. Die please ty. Worst accents in the UK..... Mancurian , Scouse, Yorkshire, Coockney. In fact, find the worst thieving scum chavs and there you have the worst accents or visa versa. The 2 seem to go hand in hand with each other. Originally by: Ian Holloway Smooth as a cashmere codpiece
Father Shillelagh	Posted - 2008.01.01 12:03:00 - [72] Quote: Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. lol she isnt even full British, probably more german!
Max Godsnottlingson Amarr Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2008.01.01 12:12:00 - [73] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Sister Impotentata Originally by: Gyfrex I'm British, and I don't want em back under our control...the hired the french to kick us out in the first place....yeah I went there I like to learn the differences in historical perspective. We in the US are taught that the English and the French were having one of their spats, as they are wont to do. That's what allowed us to sneak off with little fuss. OK, maybe we encouraged the French a little. We've been regretting it ever since. Thanks a lot, Ben Franklin. It's ok... we saved their asses in WW1, then again in WW2 against the same enemy Oh my god! You always know when you've got an American beat in an argument when this comes up. Now let me see, WW1 was pretty much over when the US decided to join the game. WW2. Granted, I'll give you this point, without US support most of europe would be speaking German now, or perhaps Russian even. But let's remember, the US made damned sure it did well out of it, you didn't do us any favours. How many Amaricans know that last summer saw a small cerimony at the Bank of England when the last payment was made from the UK government to the US for all the help we got from you. Aid given, but payment for said services made in full. That's not a *****, cos as far as I know, the UK is the only country to repay the US for it's help For none UK/US readers. You have to understand one thing about us all in the UK and US. We're like family, we'll bicker and argue like hell at eachother. But god help anybody who tries to get between us.
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.01 12:20:00 - [74] The war was years ago. Stop living in the past damn it! ------------------------------------ Politically Correct since 2007. No really.
Oberoonmoon Gallente E X C L U S I V E	Posted - 2008.01.01 12:31:00 - [75] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Sister Impotentata Originally by: Gyfrex I'm British, and I don't want em back under our control...the hired the french to kick us out in the first place....yeah I went there I like to learn the differences in historical perspective. We in the US are taught that the English and the French were having one of their spats, as they are wont to do. That's what allowed us to sneak off with little fuss. OK, maybe we encouraged the French a little. We've been regretting it ever since. Thanks a lot, Ben Franklin. It's ok... we saved their asses in WW1, then again in WW2 against the same enemy I would like to correct you on this one. Yes you "helped" to save Europe during WWI and II. But I woudl like to mention that the Russians lost millions- yeah that is right millions - og soldiers to wear down the german military. It would be interesting to see D-day again, with the the full german military might of 1940 ready on the beach.... It would be a total loss for US 6 the rest of the allies. Sry to **** up your reality, but you would never have arrived havent it been for the russians sacrificing so much to begin with. Im not ungrateful, but Im sick of hearing from the US, that YOU saved us all. It was a cooperative effort, were the russians actually did the dirty work...
northwesten Amarr Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2008.01.01 13:11:00 - [76] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Sister Impotentata Originally by: Gyfrex I'm British, and I don't want em back under our control...the hired the french to kick us out in the first place....yeah I went there I like to learn the differences in historical perspective. We in the US are taught that the English and the French were having one of their spats, as they are wont to do. That's what allowed us to sneak off with little fuss. OK, maybe we encouraged the French a little. We've been regretting it ever since. Thanks a lot, Ben Franklin. It's ok... we saved their asses in WW1, then again in WW2 against the same enemy yes but we merly ysed you as a meet sheild while we do the real task at hand :) Trinity Corporate Services
Mudkest Ekliptika Engineers Ekliptika	Posted - 2008.01.01 14:31:00 - [77] Originally by: Frezik Originally by: James Swindle WW1, you were barely involved and when you were...you were being typical gun ho yanks jumping over the trenches and getting shot into a swiss cheese like state (i could go on about WW1 but it is really too much effort). I generally find that both the American who shouts "we saved you in WWI and II!" is just as ignorant of the facts as the European who tries to correct him. WWI was a stupid war with a stupid strategy and fought for ultimately stupid reasons. It was a European problem that America got dragged into. By that time, the major powers had already fought themselves into a stalemate. With the troops on all sides warn out, America could choose which side it wanted to win simply by providing fresh troops to that side. The de facto choice was the Allies. Without that, the war almost certainly would have ended in stalemate. Keep in mind that even after defeating Spain and Theodore Roosevelt's Naval expansion, America still had lingering feelings of isolationism that lasted until WWII. The Washington Doctrine left European problems for Europe to deal with. By all rights, America shouldn't have even entered the war. Shouldn't have even been giving supplies to England. Wilson was reelected in 1916 on the basis of keeping America out of the war (though he was forced to enter the war not long after). I can understand why a European would feel resentful of an American trumpeting the success of WWI and II, but I can't say it's a wrong statement, either. saddest part is, US president Woodrow Wilson more or less anticipated a 2nd world war but wasnt able to convince the senate to do something about it :/ (also, had the US not become involved then france/england wouldnt have been able to force germany to take the blame for ww1, and adolf h. might not have been able to rise to power and start ww2 ...) ----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs! I want my hello-kitty-kessie!
Sister Impotentata Elite Angels Of Death	Posted - 2008.01.01 15:57:00 - [78] Edited by: Sister Impotentata on 01/01/2008 16:01:38 Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson How many Amaricans know that last summer saw a small cerimony at the Bank of England when the last payment was made from the UK government to the US for all the help we got from you. I sure didn't. Kudos. Although given the strength of your currency, how hard could it have been? What, you all rummaged around in your collective couches for some loose change? Instead of a cash payout, though, I'd rather you did something meaningful and important, like come over here and help set up a proper Association Football infrastructure. Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson For none UK/US readers. You have to understand one thing about us all in the UK and US. We're like family, we'll bicker and argue like hell at eachother. But god help anybody who tries to get between us. This, very much. Originally by: Oberoonmoon It would be interesting to see D-day again, No, no it wouldn't. I'm not belittling the Soviet sacrifice, but the outcome of D-Day wouldn't have been any different, otherwise the powers-that-be wouldn't have initiated it. It just would have been uglier. ----- TANSTAAFL Originally by: Patricia Arquette There were lots of stars at night. purple and red and yellow and on fire You don't see that. You might still see it in the desert.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.01 16:00:00 - [79] Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson For none UK/US readers. You have to understand one thing about us all in the UK and US. We're like family, we'll bicker and argue like hell at eachother. But god help anybody who tries to get between us. We Westerners are an interesting lot, we bicker and grumble but when something outside of us threatens we band together and don't give an inch. Very much sighning this one, for all the grumbles I have about Americans they are still family. ~Nyron Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
Troye Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.01.01 16:17:00 - [80] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny It's ok... we saved their asses in WW1, then again in WW2 against the same enemy Well we saved your arse in WW3 _______________________________________________ EVE is dying, we are all doomed...
Menkaure Amarr Vanitas Corp.	Posted - 2008.01.01 17:44:00 - [81] Originally by: Troye Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny It's ok... we saved their asses in WW1, then again in WW2 against the same enemy Well we saved your arse in WW3 Obscure simpsons quotes 4tw!
Eternal Error	Posted - 2008.01.01 17:51:00 - [82] To the person that said something about the Russians affecting the outcome of D-Day, you either have your invasions mixed up or you're a moron.
Araxmas An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.01.01 18:10:00 - [83] If only I could post some Al Murray quotes...but I cant be arsed to find any. -------- The Derek Quote Pyramid
James Swindle Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.01 18:23:00 - [84] I think he was refering to the fact that if the Russians hadn't kept the Germans busy on the eastern front, then the Germans would of been able to move the majority of there forces to the western front...and thus the out come COULD of been very different.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.01 19:26:00 - [85] Originally by: James Swindle I think he was refering to the fact that if the Russians hadn't kept the Germans busy on the eastern front, then the Germans would of been able to move the majority of there forces to the western front...and thus the out come COULD of been very different. Similarly - Germany could have won the nuclear race and easily forced Britain into a surrender and annexation by a demonstration. I think it was one small miscalculation and if he ahd gone over it again and thought, "huh, forgot to carry the one" or something similar we would have a very different world. Not sure, but what would the odds be of N-Germany invading North America after dealing with Britain and Russia? ~Nyron Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
Isiskhan Gnostic Misanthropy	Posted - 2008.01.01 20:07:00 - [86] I had a German gf who got a degree on history specializing on the Cold War, and she used to explain that the consensus among historians over there is that Germany pretty much lost WWII to the Red Army, not the allied forces as it is commonly believed in the western world (which is not surprising given our bias and the Cold War that came afterwards). Germany lost something like 80% to 90% of its forces on the Russian front, which had actually become its primary focus on the war, and which explains why the allies encountered a broken army and relatively little opposition after D-day's deployment. In fact, the Red Army got to Berlin first, but they waited for the allied forces to arrive before officially taking over the city, as it was agreed between both parties that they would do it as a joint operation for political reasons.
Victor Ivanov Minmatar The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.01 20:46:00 - [87] Edited by: Victor Ivanov on 01/01/2008 20:47:27 Originally by: Isiskhan I had a German gf who got a degree on history specializing on the Cold War, and she used to explain that the consensus among historians over there is that Germany pretty much lost WWII to the Red Army, not the allied forces as it is commonly believed in the western world (which is not surprising given our bias and the Cold War that came afterwards). Germany lost something like 80% to 90% of its forces on the Russian front, which had actually become its primary focus on the war, and which explains why the allies encountered a broken army and relatively little opposition after D-day's deployment. In fact, the Red Army got to Berlin first, but they waited for the allied forces to arrive before officially taking over the city, as it was agreed between both parties that they would do it as a joint operation for political reasons. This. :) I may not be a history major, but I did write a paper on this very topic. Stalin may have been a rather questionable character, but the resistance that was put up in (for example) the Battle of Kursk is awe inspiring. Germans had better weapons, better tanks, more tanks, airstrike capabilities (Admittedly: The weather prevented airstrikes from being anything else but "Enemy is probably there, let's just bomb through the heavy fog and hope we hit something) while the Kursk area was mostly inhabited by Russian farmers. Oh and let's not forget that before Germany ever threw the proverbial towel in the ring, the rest of the world had already met and discussed the premise of diving directly through german ranks into Communist Russia as a "thank you" for their efforts, while being entirely aware that the fight with Germany had left Russia pretty much completely devoid of resources and military power. The common folk may think the Cold War that followed WWII was between super powers, those who have researched the matter will assure you that Russia was FAR from a superpower at that time, and the Americans knew that Russia couldn't touch them/defend itself. Of course, up until the Missile Crisis, to which the US seriously considered sending multiple nukes to Cuba to end the threat. Summary: My country (Holland) is very grateful for all support from all sides, and my grandfathers love the US for liberating us (truth) but the war was not won by the US. Most damage to Germany was done by the Russians. TO ALL PEOPLE THINKING OF POSTING IN THIS THREAD: It's a trap. It's a cunning, accursed thread which will snare you in from chuckling happilly at the original quotation, then shaking your head and giggling at everyone taking it so serious and then suddenly you are making a post about american history. ----------------------
Dec V Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2008.01.01 21:30:00 - [88] Please stfu about dental care. The younger generation in the UK all have very good, straight, white teeth, at least everybody I know do. Maybe in the 1960's they didn't but...certainly not now
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.01 22:46:00 - [89] Originally by: Sister Impotentata Edited by: Sister Impotentata on 01/01/2008 16:01:38 Originally by: Max Godsnottlingson How many Amaricans know that last summer saw a small cerimony at the Bank of England when the last payment was made from the UK government to the US for all the help we got from you. I sure didn't. Kudos. Although given the strength of your currency, how hard could it have been? What, you all rummaged around in your collective couches for some loose change? Instead of a cash payout, though, I'd rather you did something meaningful and important, like come over here and help set up a proper Association Football infrastructure. If only you people were interested, we'd do it completely for free Does this thread count as Godwin'd yet? ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.01.02 00:20:00 - [90] Quote: A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. ROFL Quote: 6. You should stop playing American "football." There are other types of football such as Rugby, Aussie Rules & Gaelic football. However proper football - which will no longer be known as soccer, is the best known, most loved and most popular. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). QFT and HAHAHAHA! Quote: 15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.

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