| Pages: 1 2 3 4 :: [one page] |
|
|
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
   |
Posted - 2008.01.01 00:31:00 -
[1]
Edited by: Ix Forres on 01/01/2008 00:34:10
Dear 2Kay,
Where do you see your relationship with the API project?
I ask this as a curiosity towards the future of the EVE API. Garthagk certainly made a huge impression on the developer community with his transparency about what he was doing with the API, and involvement with the developers at a personal level, getting involved in how people were making use of the API and building on what he saw being done in the real world for new features. And it has certainly resulted in a great system, but it's not perfect, and there's still a lot that could be done.
While I understand that the API is not your only project, neither was it Garthagk's. Yet since your introduction as the new API developer we, the developer community, have seen very little to no involvement or discussion from you, or any changes to the API. Apart from being quite worrying (Will the API be maintained in future?) the development of the API has become rather static in our eyes.
This (open) letter is a request that we get back the level of transparency and communication that Garthagk provided to the developer community- change logs, notifications of what you're working on next, discussion of what should come next and what people would like to see in IRC channels and on the EVE-Dev wiki. These small and simple tasks could bring huge benefits to the community and to the EVE API. We're a friendly bunch- I can't think of a single EVE developer I know who I'd criticise on a personal level- and the discussions in #eve-dev are always level-headed and enjoyable.
I think the biggest impression that Garthagk has made on my mind is that he's still in #eve-dev, still discussing his projects with us- there's a real relationship built up between him and the community devs, and that same relationship drove the development in a very strong way and lead to a great product.
Consider this, if you will, an invitation to the party. Join us in #eve-dev, sign up to the EVE-Dev website and wiki and keep an eye on it- perhaps even contribute. Listen to what people are doing with the API, what they need and want for the future, and perhaps even take the API on as more of a personal project than an assigned task to bugfix. It's an area where even very small changes and improvements can change the day to day lives of thousands of players.
For the sake of not only the community developers using the API, but for the players using API-derived projects, systems and applications, I beseech you to come and hang out with the other devs- those who are working for weeks, months, and even years on projects using what is rapidly looking like a stagnant API, the future direction of which is unknown.
Yours Faithfully,
- Ix Forres
Blog |
Salvis Tallan
Gallente
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 00:32:00 -
[2]
/signed
Dont let the API die!
------
|
Rilcon
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 00:51:00 -
[3]
/signed
(I did some Map related stuff with Ix; good times.)
|
Epitrope
The Citadel Manufacturing and Trade Corporation
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 00:54:00 -
[4]
/signed
The API is too important to let languish. There is a whole exciting new class of applications being developed now which were impossible before APIv2, and these are a direct result of Garthagk's enthusiasm and work. We want this to continue!
|
Raquel Smith
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
imPure.
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 04:05:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Ix Forres
Edited by: Ix Forres on 01/01/2008 00:34:10
Dear 2Kay,
Consider this, if you will, an invitation to the party. Join us in #eve-dev, sign up to the EVE-Dev website and wiki and keep an eye on it- perhaps even contribute. Listen to what people are doing with the API, what they need and want for the future, and perhaps even take the API on as more of a personal project than an assigned task to bugfix. It's an area where even very small changes and improvements can change the day to day lives of thousands of players.
Agreed. Come join us 2Kay.
--
Creator of The Ruby API Library |
Raketefrau
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 04:20:00 -
[6]
We also provide free Pez and Monte Cristos.
It's a party like no other, please stop by.
We even have girls.
signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) <--- I've emailed 5 times now. No answer. |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Enuma Elish.
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 04:34:00 -
[7]
Resolution for 2008 - Keep the API alive 
/signed
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Hattur
Gallente
Viktor Research Incoporated
New Eden Research
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 10:14:00 -
[8]
/signed
|
Ashoka TG
Wreckless Abandon
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 11:03:00 -
[9]
/signed
|
Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 11:10:00 -
[10]
/signed \o/
_
Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map |
|
|
Elissen
Amarr
Serenity Inc
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 16:27:00 -
[11]
/signed as well
----
Weeks of programming can save you hours of planning.
Jumpplanner v2.2 - Routeplanner for all jumpcapable ships! |
Lunadi
Minmatar
Solar Trade
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 19:29:00 -
[12]
/signed as well
|
MrCue
Drones Of Annihilation.
Terra Incognita.
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 19:46:00 -
[13]
/Signed.
Battleclinic |
Krauser
Caldari
Armed Enterprises
|
Posted - 2008.01.01 20:46:00 -
[14]
/Signed
I can not live any longer without the API (being improved)!
--
CEO of Armed Enterprises - A German Mining Corporation and Founder of C-P. One of the most active German Co |
Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 02:09:00 -
[15]
Yes! /signed :P
_
Got Item? | Ship? | Python EVE API? |
MrRx7
Amarr
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 02:11:00 -
[16]
/signed
many of my new corp toys depend on the API pleaes keep it active.
|
Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 02:42:00 -
[17]
/Signed
----
FREE Explorer
Lead Megalomanic
EVE Automated Influence Map |
Pinpisa Jormao
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 04:07:00 -
[18]
2Kay, anything you say can and will be googled by your future employer. If you're going to make a statement better make it short and understandable like 'carrier != hauler' so that everyone in this forum comprehends it.
|
Isidien Madcap
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 05:26:00 -
[19]
One reason for the silence may well be that the transition happened in mid-December -- right before the holidays. I wouldn't expect anything until next week at the earliest, really.
----
Isidien |
Ambo
2nd Outcasters
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 08:49:00 -
[20]
Well we have already been told that the API will not be developed further atm.
From what I understand 2kay will just be fixing any bugs that come up with it, nothing more. I could well be wrong though.
--------------------------------------
Trader? Investor? Just want to track your finances? Check out EMMA |
|
|
Sothis Antares
Department of War
|
Posted - 2008.01.02 15:35:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Ambo
Well we have already been told that the API will not be developed further atm.
From what I understand 2kay will just be fixing any bugs that come up with it, nothing more. I could well be wrong though.
 teh sky is falling... teh world comes to an end... 
|
Gilgamoth
Imperium Technologies
|
Posted - 2008.01.03 13:09:00 -
[22]
/signed
2Kay, at least be polite and say hello.
Regards,
Gil
Live on Eden Underground Radio every Wednesday 19:00 - 21:00 GMT. |
Shinhan
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
|
Posted - 2008.01.03 20:49:00 -
[23]
/signed
--
Selling apples, 1 signature each.
ѼѼѼѼѼѼѼ |
Femaref
Caldari
Armageddon Day
|
Posted - 2008.01.04 15:52:00 -
[24]
/signed
|
Vessper
The Graduates
Brutally Clever Empire
|
Posted - 2008.01.04 16:34:00 -
[25]
/signed
--------------
EveHQ Character App | Item Database |
Johnathan Roark
Caldari
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
|
Posted - 2008.01.04 17:26:00 -
[26]
I would very much like to hear what 2kay has planned for our beloved EVEAPI
Corporation Management Improvement |
Jayseven
COGNET SpaceSystems Ltd
|
Posted - 2008.01.04 17:26:00 -
[27]
/signed
would love to see the forward momentum continue. There are some pretty exciting applications being developed, and it'd be sad to see the API stagnate.
|
Ryushe
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
|
Posted - 2008.01.04 20:23:00 -
[28]
/signed all the way.
Just a hello at this point would be enough to know there's someone ACTUALLY involved with the API.
|
Doosh Bagge
Soldi di Protezione
|
Posted - 2008.01.05 01:43:00 -
[29]
Anyone? Anyone?
Please help keep the API alive.... |
Sothis Antares
Department of War
|
Posted - 2008.01.05 02:46:00 -
[30]
/signed as well
Originally by: Ryushe
Just a hello at this point would be enough to know there's someone ACTUALLY involved with the API.
i agree. i fully respect the fact if someone is in holidays and/or has other things to manage. I respect
structural changes in personell management as well. But, from my point of view, support for the community
shouldn't suffer because of that. I mean if there are changes, then please let us at least know what kind
of changes we have to expect. :)
|
|
|
Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2008.01.05 07:14:00 -
[31]
Edited by: Kw4h on 05/01/2008 07:14:52
Originally by: Darth Vader
The lack of dev response is disturbing.
^ exactly
edit: Oh look papa! I'm on the second page! \o/
_
Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map |
Memkani
|
Posted - 2008.01.05 17:00:00 -
[32]
I have sent a direct e-mail to a CCP employee and hopefully that might get a response.
|
Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
|
Posted - 2008.01.07 17:40:00 -
[33]
Edited by: Ix Forres on 07/01/2008 17:41:04
Has anyone else had any luck trying to contact anyone with API bugs via the bugtracker?
Blog |
Hagen Stein
Biotronics Inc.
Alternative Realities
|
Posted - 2008.01.07 17:55:00 -
[34]
/signed
|
Ryushe
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
|
Posted - 2008.01.07 20:59:00 -
[35]
I made a little post in the General Discussions section, hopes it gets noticed and acted upon.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Character Showroom Forum Thread |
Memkani
|
Posted - 2008.01.08 17:20:00 -
[36]
Maybe everyone at CCP is still out partying from the release of Trinity.  or maybe Iceland was taken over by BoB.
|
Conscious
Gallente
Haru Chai
Edge Of Sanity
|
Posted - 2008.01.09 11:56:00 -
[37]
/signed
--------------------------------------------
Eve Tools - Alliance Tracker
|
Fuzzel Squeek
U.N.F.I.X.
|
Posted - 2008.01.09 12:03:00 -
[38]
/signed
|
Despereaux
|
Posted - 2008.01.09 14:34:00 -
[39]
/signed
|
Ix Forres
Vanguard Frontiers
Imperial Republic Of the North
|
Posted - 2008.01.10 01:22:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Ryushe
I made a little post in the General Discussions section, hopes it gets noticed and acted upon.
Seems like it too is being ignored by CCP.
c'mon, CCP! We're not exactly asking for much here! Even SOE are this transparent...
Blog |
|
|
Sothis Antares
Department of War
|
Posted - 2008.01.10 07:14:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Ix Forres
Originally by: Ryushe
I made a little post in the General Discussions section, hopes it gets noticed and acted upon.
Seems like it too is being ignored by CCP.
c'mon, CCP! We're not exactly asking for much here! Even SOE are this transparent...
well, maybe we all are wrong and maybe we are indeed asking for too much :(
|
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Enuma Elish.
|
Posted - 2008.01.10 09:30:00 -
[42]
Really unfortunate that we'll probably call it for 3 months and oups... something will be fixed by miracle. Then go on again for 6 months and oups... ........
And on... and on...
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Memkani
|
Posted - 2008.01.10 21:05:00 -
[43]
I did get a reply back from someone at CCP Games via private e-mail that they have contacted the Dev working on the API project and asked him to respond to this thread. So we shall see.
|
GENORION2
|
Posted - 2008.01.11 01:30:00 -
[44]
/signed
|
Commander Kahn'Alzaor
|
Posted - 2008.01.11 03:51:00 -
[45]
Signed - API is key in many of my ideas
|
Peter Rasmussen
|
Posted - 2008.01.12 05:27:00 -
[46]
/Signed
Great post Ix 
|
Ryushe
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
|
Posted - 2008.01.12 06:00:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Peter Rasmussen
/Signed
Great post Ix
All Hail Ix!
Here's hoping we get a good response, seeing as someone in this thread mentioned receiving an email from CCP and Kieron replied to my post in GD.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Character Showroom Forum Thread |
Sothis Antares
Department of War
|
Posted - 2008.01.15 00:22:00 -
[48]
bump
/signed a second time with red ink (dunno if it helps tho :P)
_________________________________________________
devblogs are boring. so is mine :P
|
Talaan Stardrifter
|
Posted - 2008.01.15 11:36:00 -
[49]
/signed
|
Captain Thunk
Captain Morgan Society
|
Posted - 2008.01.15 18:07:00 -
[50]
So I take it there's not going to be a reply then? 
Thunk!
|
|
|
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Enuma Elish.
|
Posted - 2008.01.16 11:50:00 -
[51]
♪♫
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
|
Posted - 2008.01.17 07:59:00 -
[52]
*snirp* *snirp*
_
Planet Sight Wallpaper - EvE map |
Brisco Smiley
Peppermint Bay Trading Company
|
Posted - 2008.01.18 21:35:00 -
[53]
api = <3
|
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Enuma Elish.
|
Posted - 2008.01.20 17:56:00 -
[54]
Originally by: CCP Prism X
Ryushe pointed me here on #Eve-Dev, talked to Explorer, here be the bullet points.
1. Explorer will not post anything until each and every detail is crystal and smooth. His position doesn't allow him to post any less accurately.
2. Until then the API project isn't our top priority. Not only, but also, due to other project relying on a revamp on it and we don't have resource to waste on inventing the wheel knowing that we'll have to go about re-inventing it.
3. 2Kay's API duties start and end with defects. Not development. But don't take this as the API is dead. It's a temporary solution.
4. Datadump procedure is being revised and moved between departments as it doesn't belong in game development.
5. This is probably the most clear and to-the-point post I've ever posted in official capacity.
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Zathi Shaitan
Minmatar
Illiteracy Combatants
|
Posted - 2008.01.21 21:31:00 -
[55]
The API is dead. Long live the API.
----
" Several unconventional alliances where made at that point " - Hey CCP, "where" != "were".. you too, Brutus? |
SEREN1TY
Amarr
Daedalus Corp
|
Posted - 2008.02.28 01:47:00 -
[56]
/signed
|
DaReaper
Net 7
Brotherhood Of Steel
|
Posted - 2008.02.28 05:29:00 -
[57]
signed
|
Kendolph
Caldari
Bulgarian Mafia Squad
|
Posted - 2008.02.28 12:29:00 -
[58]
/signed
|
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Pure.
|
Posted - 2008.02.28 14:43:00 -
[59]
♫♪
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Pure.
|
Posted - 2008.02.28 14:44:00 -
[60]
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim
Originally by: CCP Prism X
3. 2Kay's API duties start and end with defects. Not development. But don't take this as the API is dead. It's a temporary solution.
So..... any defects fixed ..... since... last time?
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
|
|
Gilgamoth
Eldritch Storm
|
Posted - 2008.02.29 00:32:00 -
[61]
Originally by: DeTox MinRohim
So..... any defects fixed ..... since... last time?
Well the Kill Mail API still doesn't list losses, so I'd say nope 
Regards,
Gil
Live on Eden Underground Radio every Wednesday 19:00 - 21:00 GMT. |
DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Phalanx Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.02.29 22:16:00 -
[62]
fix the API; long live the API
- - -
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
If you can understand our goal, disagree with our solution and offer a solution that is equal or better your opinion has a better chance of being heard...
|
Max Kolonko
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
VENOM Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.03.02 20:37:00 -
[63]
/signed with all 3 hands
can we get some respons from you pelase 2key?
Max Kolonko |
Anne Sapyx
Gallente
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Deus Ex.
|
Posted - 2008.03.05 09:52:00 -
[64]
/signed
Elite, is quite simply, the best game ever made.
http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/index.htm
Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
|
Althea Nar'agh
StarHunt
Fallout Project
|
Posted - 2008.03.05 12:58:00 -
[65]
the 2kay is a lie
War. War never changes.
Training Monitor / iMonitor / iCEO iPOS iHelp |
Adhar Khorin
Amarr
Portsmouth Defense Industries
EVESpace
|
Posted - 2008.03.05 19:25:00 -
[66]
I'll climb on the bandwagon, too. 2Kay / CCP - any action happening on the API? Really interested to see the API continue to grow, it's an amazing amazing set of tools!
Adhar Khorin
CEO, Portsmouth Defense Industries
PHP wannabe |
DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
Pure.
|
Posted - 2008.03.06 05:27:00 -
[67]
/bump
HEY... WATCH THE PAINT!!
------
This sig space is Read-only !
omgalink - Online Skillsheet |
Xonox Galatorg
|
Posted - 2008.03.07 20:31:00 -
[68]
/signed
I think the API being developed further would be a great thing and something that players could greatly benefit from.
|
Lenus Daragio
Foundry.
|
Posted - 2008.03.08 01:43:00 -
[69]
API has a lot of room to grow.
It lets us players do a lot more with our websites than is even close to possible in every single other game.
|
Kherak
|
Posted - 2008.03.13 14:30:00 -
[70]
/signed
|
|
|
Cursive
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
|
Posted - 2008.03.14 09:26:00 -
[71]
/signed.
Third party apps make the company money. They keep people in the game, loving it and playing it even when they are not PLAYING it. If you just fade off, don't communicate with your customers and leave a giant gap between us third party developers and the company you work for the API is doomed to invalidity as you will be so far removed from the community you won't have any idea what is needed by the APIs customers.
You have some big shoes to fill...
|
DheCuir
The Unit...
|
Posted - 2008.03.14 10:06:00 -
[72]
/signed
|
JJ McHawker
BazCo
Safe And Fun Environment
|
Posted - 2008.03.14 11:24:00 -
[73]
/signed
|
CPT GUPPY
Black Watch Legionnaires
|
Posted - 2008.03.14 11:25:00 -
[74]
/signed
more API please
|
KtoJest
Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2008.03.16 19:56:00 -
[75]
/signed
...it's part of the game play
|
Nimrel
Happy Fun Ball
Final Retribution Alliance
|
Posted - 2008.03.19 17:25:00 -
[76]
/signed
Please look into the Starbase API. My POS needs proper love and attention!
|
Doosh Bagge
Soldi di Protezione
|
Posted - 2008.03.24 00:02:00 -
[77]
Aaaaaand, three months later CCP hasn't said a single word about the API.
Thanks guys, this must be that great customer relations we hear so much about.
Please help keep the API alive.... |
Ivan Kinsikor
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
|
Posted - 2008.03.24 06:18:00 -
[78]
/signed regardless of ccp's attention
----------------------------------------
*****es don't know 'bout my nano'd Titan
---------------------------------------- |
Brungar
Adeptus Illuminati Aegis Authentica
Ethereal Dawn
|
Posted - 2008.03.24 13:07:00 -
[79]
/signed
"War is a continuation of commerce by other means" - Unknown Caldari philosopher
|
woddel
Eve University
Ivy League
|
Posted - 2008.03.30 17:03:00 -
[80]
signed... :)
---
creator and maintainer of eve-commander
complete web based character information tool. |
|
|
Tonto Auri
|
Posted - 2008.03.30 22:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: woddel
signed... :)
I think it's too late to sign... or too early.
--
Thanks CCP for cu<end of sig> |
Isis Dea
|
Posted - 2008.04.03 23:53:00 -
[82]
/signed :(
___
 Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Ix Forres
|
Posted - 2008.04.04 00:42:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Isis Dea
/signed :(
You missed the party. Read the post directly above you.
http://www.save-evetv.com/Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.[/url]
Blog |
Max Kolonko
Caldari
Domini Umbrus
Free Trade Zone.
|
Posted - 2008.04.22 22:12:00 -
[84]
/signed - again
Max Kolonko |
Eigenvalue
|
Posted - 2008.05.09 16:37:00 -
[85]
/signed
The EVE API and database dumps is one of the features that makes EVE a fantastic game compared to others.
CCP should post to this at least explaining the fate of the API, because you have hundreds of talented programmers enhancing your product FOR FREE by making useful tools, but you haven't the interest to interact with us?
Come now, at least be polite to the individuals who like your game they actually work on it with you (just not paid like you).
----
Ax = λx |
Druadan
Aristotle Enterprises
|
Posted - 2008.05.10 14:34:00 -
[86]
/signed, like a flow control construct for zealous signing that got stuck an infinite loop due to bad variable control.
The API is brilliant, it needs an attentive and open dev.
Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Beseiged
Minmatar
Rim Collection RC
Zenith Affinity
|
Posted - 2008.05.12 15:26:00 -
[87]
/signed
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Rauth Kivaro ([email protected])
|
Pronas
Scoopex
The Volition Cult
|
Posted - 2008.05.13 03:42:00 -
[88]
/signed
--
Scoopex CEO
Scoopex is Recruting | The Volition Cult is Recruting |
Max Kolonko
Domini Umbrus
Free Trade Zone.
|
Posted - 2008.06.04 20:01:00 -
[89]
/yet again signed
Max Kolonko |
Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
|
Posted - 2008.06.04 22:13:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Max Kolonko
/yet again signed
Go guess why I think you're a moron...
--
Thanks CCP for cu |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
| Pages: 1 2 3 4 :: [one page] |