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Svargas Ktol
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:33:00 -
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Just wondering how people are thinking. Personally, I think Wow is better than EVE. I like Eve too, but there are a lot of reasons which i will describe in brief, as to why WOW, a great game that has been around for many a year, is supperior, but not greatly supperior, to EVE, which in itself is a very good game and a milestone accomplishment, to say the least, even though the trinity patch had some problems which don't need to be revived in this thread, a thread, i might add, that will probably be accused of flaming and trolling and trying to cause trouble, when in fact all I'm trying to do is get opinions as to how people feel about EVE and WOW and the merits and demerits of each respective game.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Svargas Ktol Just wondering how people are thinking. Personally, I think Wow is better than EVE. I like Eve too, but there are a lot of reasons which i will describe in brief, as to why WOW, a great game that has been around for many a year, is supperior, but not greatly supperior, to EVE, which in itself is a very good game and a milestone accomplishment, to say the least, even though the trinity patch had some problems which don't need to be revived in this thread, a thread, i might add, that will probably be accused of flaming and trolling and trying to cause trouble, when in fact all I'm trying to do is get opinions as to how people feel about EVE and WOW and the merits and demerits of each respective game.
The only reason Im playing eve is because there is non-consensual pvp still. Its atleast not completely dead like in WoW. Honestly, both balance and UI is much better in wow compared to eve. ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Svargas Ktol
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Svargas Ktol Just wondering how people are thinking. Personally, I think Wow is better than EVE. I like Eve too, but there are a lot of reasons which i will describe in brief, as to why WOW, a great game that has been around for many a year, is supperior, but not greatly supperior, to EVE, which in itself is a very good game and a milestone accomplishment, to say the least, even though the trinity patch had some problems which don't need to be revived in this thread, a thread, i might add, that will probably be accused of flaming and trolling and trying to cause trouble, when in fact all I'm trying to do is get opinions as to how people feel about EVE and WOW and the merits and demerits of each respective game.
The only reason Im playing eve is because there is non-consensual pvp still. Its atleast not completely dead like in WoW. Honestly, both balance and UI is much better in wow compared to eve.
What about wow pvp servers? PVP is non-consentual there in a large part of the world, with the exception of instances a a few newbie zones
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:37:00 -
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One word sums up why WoW <<<<< EVE: Battlegrounds
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Svargas Ktol
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2 One word sums up why WoW <<<<< EVE: Battlegrounds
point taken
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Bad Borris
Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:37:00 -
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I played wow for a week or two and found it to be a pointless grind for equipment and levelling up. Eve is superior for these reasons:
1. pvp and a brutal death penalty. 2. the best skilling system ever invented which effectively means you are playing even when at work. 3. the player driven storyline and the goals you can head for are far far more varied, meaningful and tough to achieve than anything wow has to offer. 4. dwarves and any kind of midget give me the willies.
if the above reasons are meaningless to you then go play wow...
Oh and the obligatory 'can i have yout stuff'...
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Tacitus Krekt
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:39:00 -
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WOW is a level based system where you cap out your character in a month and are forced to repeat trivial content over and over again to improve yourself. Having contacts with dozens of other people is required to retain entertainment.
EVE is a sandbox. Do what you want to improve your character. There is no escalating path that forces everyone in one direction (Jita not withstanding ).
The games are not comparable. Like and dislike do not dictate superiority of one object over another. It is simply based on perspective, and what one finds enjoyable.
Apples and oranges, that sort of thing.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tacitus Krekt
There is no escalating path that forces everyone in one direction
Yeah there are 3 paths:
Caldari path for the carebears. Gallente/Minmatar path for the pvp'ers Amarr path for the deranged. ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Tacitus Krekt
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Tacitus Krekt
There is no escalating path that forces everyone in one direction
Yeah there are 3 paths:
Caldari path for the carebears. Gallente/Minmatar path for the pvp'ers Amarr path for the deranged.
Rabble rabble rabble!
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Svargas Ktol
What about wow pvp servers? PVP is non-consentual there in a large part of the world, with the exception of instances a a few newbie zones
Wow pvp servers are a joke. Its basically exactly the same as normal servers but with a little bit added ganking outside raidinstances when you wait for your team to arrive. And the little bit of pvp you get is utterly pointless and has no consequences.
Since you claim wow is so great why dont you tell us the things that makes it great instead of just coming with a statement that will only attract flames. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) |

Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:51:00 -
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Originally by: Svargas Ktol
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Svargas Ktol Just wondering how people are thinking. Personally, I think Wow is better than EVE. I like Eve too, but there are a lot of reasons which i will describe in brief, as to why WOW, a great game that has been around for many a year, is supperior, but not greatly supperior, to EVE, which in itself is a very good game and a milestone accomplishment, to say the least, even though the trinity patch had some problems which don't need to be revived in this thread, a thread, i might add, that will probably be accused of flaming and trolling and trying to cause trouble, when in fact all I'm trying to do is get opinions as to how people feel about EVE and WOW and the merits and demerits of each respective game.
The only reason Im playing eve is because there is non-consensual pvp still. Its atleast not completely dead like in WoW. Honestly, both balance and UI is much better in wow compared to eve.
What about wow pvp servers? PVP is non-consentual there in a large part of the world, with the exception of instances a a few newbie zones
Battlegrounds killed non-consensual world pvp. No point anymore. As soon as pvp fades from eve Im leaving it aswell. ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:53:00 -
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Posting in a fail thread. (Apples > Oranges damn it!) --
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tacitus Krekt
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Tacitus Krekt
There is no escalating path that forces everyone in one direction
Yeah there are 3 paths:
Caldari path for the carebears. Gallente/Minmatar path for the pvp'ers Amarr path for the deranged.
Rabble rabble rabble!
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[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Princess Xenia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:55:00 -
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OP >>>> Guiness record...
Longest sentence ever.... win!!!
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Big Al
The Aftermath Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 03:56:00 -
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WoW isn't a bad game but once you hit 70 and get some decent gear, what else is there to do?
'Well, I got all the gear I need, time to make another char that looks exactly like every other char'
Both games will be in serious trouble when the next 'decent' MMO comes out. Luckily for both Blizzard and CCP the epic ineptitude of major game companies in doing this has exceeded their failure to innovate for a long time now.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:01:00 -
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Edited by: Lyria Skydancer on 04/01/2008 04:01:39
Originally by: Big Al WoW isn't a bad game but once you hit 70 and get some decent gear, what else is there to do?
'Well, I got all the gear I need, time to make another char that looks exactly like every other char'
Both games will be in serious trouble when the next 'decent' MMO comes out. Luckily for both Blizzard and CCP the epic ineptitude of major game companies in doing this has exceeded their failure to innovate for a long time now.
Yeah its sad that better mmo's arent being developed faster. I mean wow is great in design, grafics and ui but fails miserably at character customization and pvp. Eve is great because of the pvp, penalties of dying and unique non-grind skill lvling but fails at balance and lag. ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Jack Freely
Caldari Trading Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:03:00 -
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I have played UO for 5 years then moved on to Wow now coming to Eve.
I loved UO for the fact that they made a world and you choose how YOU wanted to play in it. I tried wow, leveled the toons, did the group raids and didn't like it because I was forced to play the way others wanted to play and there really is no solo wow things to do at 70 where the real wow game starts.
So far I love Eve, I have been mostly solo, learning the game and training skills. I did get the chance to loot a corp which is always fun. But for the most part we are given a world which we pick how we want to play. You can care-bear it up, or yar it up. I played around with a pirate corp using an alt and ganked hauls and miners, I mine and I trade and do mission running. I also can set a skill for a week and leave without falling behind.
Eve is just what you make of it
I think soon I will try for a big (active) corp as empire is getting smaller and smaller and those jita haulers will just bring out the devil in me.
PS I tryed to break up the wall of text, I do hate those.
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SiLkYsOfT
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:13:00 -
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world of whiners is made for the mass public. which are, mostly, in fact morons. (i am only bagging the game itself. blizzard have an awesome business model, make a game for carebear whiners on an awesome franchise and make everything layed out and metronomic.)
wow doesn't have the harsh realities like life or eve. sure you could get scamed or ganked. but if you die in eve, your whole ship is gone (beside a few surviving models n stuff). there is no game, (besides lineage 2) which comes close to the pvp from eve. an mmo is made for pvp not pve, you wana pve go play X3 or oblivion or hello kitty online. example: this poor fella or ASCN or BoB (*giggles*)
i could keep going on for ages but i aint gona waste anymore of my time explaining to you why wow is crap. think of it this way, if your not ignorant you will understand. wow is an ipod.
kthxbb
Svargas Ktol=epic fail
i say no more.
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Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer I mean wow is great in design, grafics and ui
UI and design I will take your word for but graphics? No way under any circumstances could WoWs graphics be described or interpreted as "great" they totally suck. As well as being poor quality they have a childish and cartoony style to them.
EVEs Premium graphics and several of the newer MMOs like Hellgate London or Tabula Rasa are examples of good graphics. ----------------------------------------------- My new years resolution is to give up nonconstructive posting |

Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Borris I played wow for a week or two and found it to be a pointless grind for equipment and levelling up. Eve is superior for these reasons:
1. pvp and a brutal death penalty. 2. the best skilling system ever invented which effectively means you are playing even when at work. 3. the player driven storyline and the goals you can head for are far far more varied, meaningful and tough to achieve than anything wow has to offer. 4. dwarves and any kind of midget give me the willies.
if the above reasons are meaningless to you then go play wow...
All of those reasons are typical of Any-Other-MMORPG vs EVE. They are not WoW specific. WoW does what it does very well, which is why it is the only MMO ever considered for comparison to EVE. That in itself says a lot about WoW. ----- TANSTAAFL
Originally by: BB Lazy Lob and Crazy Cob are weaving webs to wind me. I am far more sweet than other meat, but still they cannot find me!
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Paulo Damarr
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer I mean wow is great in design, grafics and ui
UI and design I will take your word for but graphics? No way under any circumstances could WoWs graphics be described or interpreted as "great" they totally suck. As well as being poor quality they have a childish and cartoony style to them.
EVEs Premium graphics and several of the newer MMOs like Hellgate London or Tabula Rasa are examples of good graphics.
Yeah I agree, I dont like the childish grafic either. What I meant was that it really doesnt look bad. ---------------------------------------------
[Video]The Inquisition I - Swift Justice |

Ernesto Hoost
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:26:00 -
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OP will need flame proof suit posting that in here 
The funny thing about WOW is, that despite it being an MMORPG, you dont have to have any contact with any other players to enjoy it. EVE "forces" you into a position where you WILL interact with other players, be it at the end of their gun or in a corp. The social aspect of EVE wins everytime in my opinion.
WOW could easily be played on a console...
Spaceships > nightelves of course 
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warrior009
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:27:00 -
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The first MMO game I played was this game, and that was back when eve started actually i was in the final stages of beta... but I leave to go other games, like planetside, cov/coh, I played a little everquest, did some World of Warcraft shoot countless other games and I have to say that out of all the mmo games Eve is number 1. Because Even though I leave and come back to this when I come back I can jump right back into the game and be like O theres some new stuff o well. Plus theres no end it seems to the skills theres always somthing you can learn and use for your strat or corp or w/e. The second tho was Planetside before they did all the nerfing...and brought the *** exspansion out but besides that out of all the games Eve is the smallest too that I know of.
but like the one person said up above Eve and WOW are 2 totally different games, one is a Build a guy that everyone else can build and the other is everyone is different, lol eve being everyone is different. 2 people starting at the same time might be in the same field and get all the same skills, gear, and ships but they will still be different.. (Ok thats a not a good exsample because they would "tech" be the same lol... IM sure you all get what im trying to say!!
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:29:00 -
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Wow is coded and supported better than eve.
Eve is designed better than Wow.
My two cents anyway.
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Minee Ze
Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Minee Ze on 04/01/2008 04:34:48 WOW! (pun intended)
another WoW vs. EVE thread i know everyone wants to start something but the same reasons are posted and same arguments presented in every single one. EVE and WoW are two separate entity's that should not be compared besides the fact that one plays both on the computer.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=660375
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=456293
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=223903
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=455618&page=3
and these kind of threads in another mmo's forums is just asking for trouble and being shot down, yes this may be considered flaming but if the truth is on fire sue me!! -Minee Ze
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JohnTheBaptist
Astronomic Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:47:00 -
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I'm not sure about the merits and demerits of each respective game, but i have been playing EVE since 2004, with a 1 month break to play WOW, so....yeah.
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:51:00 -
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WoW's PvE is boring, "Collect 5 Buffalo Wings!", next quest, "Collect 5 Buffalo Wangs!". Wait what? It's pretty much that way all the way through, so I decided oh well PvE is crappy, I'll level up, get some items and do me some PvP.
There seemed to be no room for skill in PvP, everybody's a twink (also wtf at the name twink, who coined that for WoW?), whoever had the best items won, pretty much always. Well okay, I'll just avoid the battlegrounds until I have the best weapons in the game too. So I go to grief some guys in the Neutral Zones, can't find anybody for ages, half the time I sat there whining. Every now and then some level 70 would hop off his flying mount, one hit kill me then camp my corpse, fair enough he's griefing me like I was going to do. Although I was going to do it in a zone with people around my level. So lack of people in these zones that I can fight, I came to the conclusion the PvP is pretty sub par over all. It's pretty funny that most people only PvP in WoW to get honour, to get better items. Lot's of times you just see bots in arena, instead of PvP to be enjoyed, people are just trying to achieve goals. Maybe achieving goals is their enjoyment but most people I've seen play it, don't even enjoy levelling their characters.
So, yeah. I dislike WoW. It's graphics are unbearably cartoony, clearly aimed at a young demographic. PvE is repetative with no real aspirations, since the only reason people PvP is to get even better items. I'm not saying EVE's PvE isn't repetative, it is, but at least the PvP is enjoyable, you go into a fight and risk losing something, in WoW you just die, spend half an hour running to your corpse then die again, then die again, then die again. You don't even care, exept the fact you have to keep running back. Also my ghost died on WoW, that ****ed me off too, how can a ghost die... you're a ghost, you are dead. _______________
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JohnTheBaptist
Astronomic Influence
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity Also my ghost died on WoW, that ****ed me off too, how can a ghost die... you're a ghost, you are dead.
Rofl
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2008.01.04 04:55:00 -
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I never played WOW, I did my time with the grinding in EverGrind. So when Wow came along, I saw the cartoonish graphics and kind of threw up in my mouth.
Eve, on the other hand, is a total gem...
Open ended, non grinding skill system
Harsh death penalties
Follow you hearts desire, with what you want to achieve
These, and other aspects, are what keeps me coming back. _________
"Some would call me a Demon. Others, a Vampire. But if the truth be told... I'm a daughter of the moon and a Goddess among men." |

Seroquel
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Posted - 2008.01.04 05:02:00 -
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graphics is probably not the best term to use with wow. the blizzard texture artists really did a breath taking job with a lot of the original content. i thought elwynn forest and elf-land were gorgeous in a popup book sort of way.
Originally by: Paulo Damarr
Originally by: Lyria Skydancer I mean wow is great in design, grafics and ui
UI and design I will take your word for but graphics? No way under any circumstances could WoWs graphics be described or interpreted as "great" they totally suck. As well as being poor quality they have a childish and cartoony style to them.
EVEs Premium graphics and several of the newer MMOs like Hellgate London or Tabula Rasa are examples of good graphics.
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