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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 11:53:00 -
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Although a bit late perhaps, i would like to thank you for 2007. You've brought us numerous additions to the game which, while often received sceptical at first, turned out to be quite likable in the end. To mention a few: Exploration, Heat, Stacking penalty on speed modules, (aka. the end of the nano-era), Improved Starbase Warfare (although not quite finished, it is a vast improvement over the old POS warfare), and last but not least, the graphics overhaul. Never before have we been able to reduce our digital adversaries to dust with such magnificent detail.
You continue to develop and expand this great game of yours, which, even after 2 years, still has me sitting at my PC for way too many hours a day. No company ever was perfect and no community goes without the occasional strife, but i must say you've improved significantly over the past year.
However there is a thing i must ask you. Freeze development of any and all new features (Ambulation, factional warfare, universe expansions) for, say, 6 months, and instead, during that time, focus all human and hamster resources on optimising the game. As it stands now, certain 'features' of Eve are, while often taken for granted, the main source of aggravation for players. Isn't it sad, when someone disgruntled about certain issues with the game is told to 'deal with it or shut up', when most certainly those issues were not part of the EULA when he accepted it? I know it's not a popular topic û revising and optimising code and making hardware upgrades will rarely ever get you on the headlines of MMORPG.com, as opposed to shiny new additions and graphics, yet they will make the game so much more enjoyable for those who spend so many hours playing it.
This is it, my new-years resolution to you. Trinity was announced with the notion that it took fifty man-years to develop. Let there be an announcement this year that you spent a hundred of those improving what already was there.
Kind regards, and best wishes for 2008!
- Tim.
In before the trolls, alt posters and paper-tiger accusations.
 Originally by: ISD Cortes
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wierchas noobhunter
Cosmic Fusion
When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:01:00 -
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 07/01/2008 12:06:01
Bah, wierchas noobhunter beated me to it to be first lol.
I hope you know that the dev team that does give us new features and that can't do anything with bugs and that. There is an own team that only does the testing of bugs, testing of performance etc.
The guys who are testing for bugs doesn't know anything about performance optimalization for example.
So the other stuffs that CCP is making for us doesn't need to be stopped because EVE need more optimalization.
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Ka'lorn Font'a
Amarr
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:04:00 -
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/signed.
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:05:00 -
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/signed
From recent experience, I would especially like to see the Corp management interface radically improved. It's clumsy and very opaque. I know that there are other more glamorous issues, but this one caused me a lot of aggravation over the last 6 months.
Actually, come to think about it, I'd be happy for CCP to put aside lag, balance, Amarr, and just really work on the game interface as a whole. I love the information richness that the game provides, but a really quality interface would make the game more accessible to new players (without necessarily being "easier") and just more fun for everyone. Asking for 300 vs 400 battles to be lag-free may not be realistic with current technology. Asking for a game interface that is coherent, transparent, intuitive and attractive (or customisable and themeable if they don't want to waste resources on pretty) surely is.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: NightmareX
There is an own team that only does the testing of bugs, testing of performance etc.
I've worked in software engineering for 15 years and the only time I've seen bugs like Eve suffers are when the company in question has *no* testing procedures in place.
But I'm sure CCP have one, it's not like they'd wipe system files from Windows, break POS warfare then tell people not to engage in it ('you can't play the game this way, but you have to keep paying us while you wait for us to fix it'), or have legacy code that causes severe desynchronisation between client and server...well, the list goes on.
Luckily Eve has none of that since their testing and QA department are a professional bunch. So yeah, thanks CCP!
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Varrakk
Phantom Squad
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:17:00 -
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Glad you didnt put scripts on that list.
Changing scripts is fast and dandy,
but sensor booster for instance can take alot of time before deactivating 
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar
Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.07 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tzar''rim on 07/01/2008 12:24:22
The problem comes from the fact that their mission statement seems to have changed. First they wanted to make a game for themselves to play and to allow others into so they could shoot them. While sounding selfish it's actually the best approach since that ensures they will look at problems from a pilot's perspective.
Now things are different; they stated they wanted 300k players within a short time, they're looking for the big bucks. Wether that's because they want to cash and retire or because they need the cash to invest into new features and ventures is unimportant...
They want more players and thus they will have to lure them and keep them, that means they will have to make design sacrifices in order to attract and keep new players, ie WOW-ification. Dumbing down the game, putting in failsaves and in general softening up the harsh gameplay.
To attract new and more players they will have to advertise with something; and that something is new features. You DON'T get new players by saying "hey we mended the problems that have been plaguing the game for 3 years now", they get new players by shouting "LOOK AT OUR NEW AMBULATION!!!!1!111oneeleven".
All of a sudden the emphasis has moved from the game to the cash, and this WILL change EVE. And at some point I'm sure they'll do thigns they have vowed to never do, since that decision would bring in more cash. I'm not saying that making cash is an evil thing; all I'm saying is that slowly but surely CCP (and thus EVE) is shifting from a small time, isolated, different and niche company into a mainstream one. And we all know what happens then...
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Varrakk
Glad you didnt put scripts on that list.
Changing scripts is fast and dandy,
but sensor booster for instance can take alot of time before deactivating
Not everything they gave us was good 
But many additions weren't as bad as many people thought.
Originally by: ISD Cortes
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HoKu Ziare
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.07 14:17:00 -
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You mean CCP should fix the game 1st?
No no no... there is no lag.
Come on now, what we need is more ... shinny stuff.
/me puts on tin-foil hat. 
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Snipe Ranger
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Posted - 2008.01.07 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: Snipe Ranger on 07/01/2008 14:34:02
Originally by: Shenko Minara
Originally by: NightmareX
There is an own team that only does the testing of bugs, testing of performance etc.
I've worked in software engineering for 15 years and the only time I've seen bugs like Eve suffers are when the company in question has *no* testing procedures in place.
But I'm sure CCP have one, it's not like they'd wipe system files from Windows, break POS warfare then tell people not to engage in it ('you can't play the game this way, but you have to keep paying us while you wait for us to fix it'), or have legacy code that causes severe desynchronisation between client and server...well, the list goes on.
Luckily Eve has none of that since their testing and QA department are a professional bunch. So yeah, thanks CCP!
QFT!!, I've been in developement and SW testing for about 10 years and you're right on point. There is NO way any sort of testing would let some of these bugs through, if so you guys need to revamp your test cases ffs...
Btw it is still a great game 
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2008.01.07 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Blands on 07/01/2008 14:39:09
It's difficult to describe what a huge negative impact the new graphics are for Eve @ MyHouse without incurring the wrath of a dozen impenetrable fanboiz.
Classic content runs slower than the new content, but at least it doesn't crash every 35 minutes.
I'm going to be extremely sad puppy when they turn classic off for good.
Insane Fanboi rants, including but not limited to "Upgrade your 486" begin in five, four, three, two... one....
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
SIVAKASI
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Posted - 2008.01.07 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Kind regards, and best wishes for 2008!
This! and Sokratesz, you can say that again. 
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.07 15:42:00 -
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Then why can all whine and cry in more threads when the people from the art department start working on the server and the whole thing explodes.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Andargor theWise
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.07 15:58:00 -
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In a sok thread \o/
I agree with you in essence, but practically I don't think they can reassign resources that easily. Different skill sets and all that.
Second, I think the problems are of a more structural nature, and as such will require a partial rewrite of the code as well as new hardware technologies. Neither of those will come about quickly.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Empire Research
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Posted - 2008.01.07 16:05:00 -
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/signed
ys plz
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Xaen
Caldari
Thunder Muffin
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Posted - 2008.01.07 16:07:00 -
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I fully expected this to be a completely worthless fanboi post based on the first couple of paragraphs, then you surprised me!
Nicely done.
Words cannot express how strongly I agree. See the UI link in my sig for what I see as the most important improvements to be made. The quality of the UI affects every single player in the game every second they're playing. It's performance and usability should be paramount, yet somehow it seems to have taken a back seat to absolutely everything.
Also, please fix the CPU utilization bug that causes me to get a constant 10-20FPS at random, and 60FPS (v-synch on) the rest of the time. Sweet FSM how annoying. This, the strobing bug, and the broken look at function are what are currently bugging me the most. Now that doesn't mean what bugs me in particular is the most important. The UI is, but there are some showstopper bugs preventing me from using the premium graphics, and my system can handle them just fine for the 2 minutes that they're working correctly.
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Intak Gallent
Gallente
S-44
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Posted - 2008.01.07 16:08:00 -
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You are soo right.. Optimize.. Its like windows.. lets create a game with so much bugs so we make more looping stuff so we can profit for many yaers..
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Duncan Bannatyne
BioDyne Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.07 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
(aka. the end of the nano-era)
The nano-era has ended, what? When did this happen?
Duncan Bannatyne
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Mark Starkiller
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 16:30:00 -
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/signed |
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.07 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
stuff
Yep...
Quote:
All of a sudden the emphasis has moved from the game to the cash, and this WILL change EVE. And at some point I'm sure they'll do thigns they have vowed to never do, since that decision would bring in more cash.
T2 battleships...
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.07 17:56:00 -
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yay for 2007....
welcome to 2008, the second nano era!
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Shenko Minara
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Posted - 2008.01.07 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Then why can all whine and cry in more threads when the people from the art department start working on the server and the whole thing explodes.
Oh hey, it's this post again.
There's perfectly good money going on those artists and 'imagineers' that could be used on a better software/testing team, only ******s think the flip-side of that argument is to have artists do bug-fixing.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:49:00 -
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wtb, dev response
Originally by: ISD Cortes
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.01.07 22:52:00 -
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It took me a while to reply, but the only thing I'v come up with so far is
/signed
I totaly agree with sok. The last year has been a great one, but the game is getting broken beyond playable... So please CCP, could you try and put the focus more on bug fixing this year then on features?
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.01.07 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim
Edited by: Tzar''rim on 07/01/2008 12:24:22
The problem comes from the fact that their mission statement seems to have changed.
Quite so. Personally I'm very disappointed with the state of the client. New engine or not, it sucks and I have no hope that CCP will fix it in any significant way in at least sooner than 2 years. But, then, fixing the client doesn't sell more kit.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 23:21:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 07/01/2008 23:23:09
I myself have a pretty strong opinion on certain issues with the game and i'm confident many others feel the same, but i was trying to prevent these sentiments in order to achieve a neat, civilised announcement and pose an honest question to CCP.
Originally by: ISD Cortes
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium
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Posted - 2008.01.07 23:28:00 -
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I think if CCP spent 100 man-years on POS they'd still be bugged....
We live in hope
Khaldari
khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists
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Thunderguts
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.08 00:11:00 -
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I don't know about bugs, I really haven't seen that many. They really ought to devote some time to redesigning the server side of things. I've never programmed that sort of thing, so I can't talk about it like an expert, but they need to design it such that the work can be shifted between CPUs as systems get overloaded. No star system should be lagging or crashing like Jita when other star systems are running smoothly.
No QA or debugging team could fix it though, that would be a major redesign. That's my wish for 2008.
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Chavu
Ganja Labs
Pure.
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Posted - 2008.01.08 00:51:00 -
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Love the game, hate the lag. Letting 500+ people pile into a system only to make the game unplayable is.....not pleasant to say the least.
Improving the graphics was an excellent job and really makes the game look up to date. Now I hope CCP fires all those graphics people and hires tech 2 code improving monkeys.
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