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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:04:00 -
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Quote: And if too many players stay in NPC corporations now, the whiney griefers will whine again until CCP nerfs NPC corps...
That idea has been proposed and shot down in flames.
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:09:00 -
[62]
Could you please go over to the BF2142 forums and start a rant on how there is no honor in shooting someone in the back or when he's down?
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Terianna Eri
Amarr STK Scientific Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Except for the whiners who already unsubbed. But there's no use crying over every mistake. People keep on joining so the game must be great. NPC corpers can hide, and wardecs are fine, for the people who are still subscribed. And believe me I am still subscribed. And when the whine ends I'll be still subscribed. Still subscribed. Still subscribed.
Marry me?  __________________________________
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Terianna Eri
Originally by: Crumplecorn Except for the whiners who already unsubbed. But there's no use crying over every mistake. People keep on joining so the game must be great. NPC corpers can hide, and wardecs are fine, for the people who are still subscribed. And believe me I am still subscribed. And when the whine ends I'll be still subscribed. Still subscribed. Still subscribed.
Marry me? 
/me sings the song with new lyrics. -------------
fixed for greater eve content |

Xanthese
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:45:00 -
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Edited by: Xanthese on 10/01/2008 23:49:45
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Bishop Stewart How many players are now going to quit this wonderful game because they can no longer enjoy it without being ganked by those who enjoy ruining other people's game experience? Those who only want to go ratting with their corporate friends, those who only want to mine, produce and enjoy the rich virtual economy?
If there's one thing Eve has proved time and time again, it's that for every weepy carebear that quits after being ganked, three badass griefers step up to take his place. Quit if you want to, but rest assured you will not be missed as long as this game's population continues to grow.
Why not use your masterful command of that rich Eve economy to hire some mercenaries to defend you? Recirculate some of your carebear earnings into that economy instead of sitting on your hoard like a frightened hen.
so - and I hate WoW - why does Wow get 100's of times more players, if not 1000's joinining every day : it's because you can learn the game without being griefed until you are a decent level - some poor carebear loses his ship 3 times on his trial period isn't going to stay - even though he could have grown to be awesome
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/01/2008 23:46:17
Originally by: Lithalnas
Originally by: Terianna Eri Marry me? 
/me sings the song with new lyrics.
Full Version \o/ -
DesuSigs |

ry ry
StateCorp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.10 23:50:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 10/01/2008 23:50:35
'cyberbullies'? don't be such a wimp.
the whole point of eve is to crush your enemies, be that on the stock market, in empire war, or the 0.0 POS game.
when you go mining, then sell your minerals for 0.01 isk less than the previous buy order what are you doing if not pitting yourself against another player?
if you jsut want to fly around in a spaceship and chat to your mates a copy of X3 and MSN would probably be more to your liking.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.01.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/01/2008 23:46:17
Originally by: Lithalnas
Originally by: Terianna Eri Marry me? 
/me sings the song with new lyrics.
Full Version \o/
Anyway this cheese is great! It goes so well with your whine!
change to Anyway this bree is great! It goes so well with your whine!
but other than that i would give you a GSC or Giant Secured Companion Cube -------------
fixed for greater eve content |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.11 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Edited by: Crumplecorn on 10/01/2008 23:46:17
Originally by: Lithalnas
Originally by: Terianna Eri Marry me? 
/me sings the song with new lyrics.
Full Version \o/
and so crumplecorm has become the King of eve-O forums for ever and ever.
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planetary interaction idea! |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.11 00:26:00 -
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Only when it's released as MP3 
1|2|3|4|5. |

Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.01.11 00:29:00 -
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I think it is a change for the better.
And I would like to remind the OP that he can always restart and join STI. We are a friendly bunch. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute |

Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.11 00:40:00 -
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Lesson: Never appeal to EVE players to allow people to engage in non-PVP when they see fit.
Result: 95% of posts are flames, generating further hostility toward "carebears".
Conclusion: Ignore idiots, keep playing.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.11 01:18:00 -
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Haha. "cyberbullies"
You fail video games. Quit eve now.
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles |

2annoing
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Posted - 2008.01.11 01:24:00 -
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Please will one of these cyberbullies please declare war on me.. I could do with the laugh tbh. This is an alt --- like you give a funk?
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Rellik B00n
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.11 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop Stewart This is my first posting in this forum. And it is a rant. Good start, eh?
.....stufff...
Thanks for reading my two cents on the subject.
posting in an imune alt thread.
also hahahahahaha.
remix:never fades 07(2) |

Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2008.01.11 01:59:00 -
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I guess you'll have to be like the piece of **** farmers that disband corps the instant they are wardecced.
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Vikarion
Caldari United Heavens
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Posted - 2008.01.11 02:02:00 -
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Cyber-Bullies.
That would be a great name for a rock band. 
I use CrumpleCorn(tm) Sigs, because they (and he) are awesome! |

Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.01.11 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Only when it's released as MP3 
Linkage
Quick and nasty, I will improve it if and when I am offically made king of the forums. -
DesuSigs |

Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2008.01.11 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop Stewart How many players are now going to quit this wonderful game because they can no longer enjoy it without being ganked by those who enjoy ruining other people's game experience?
Can I have your stuff? Oh wait, you're a carebear newb. You don't have any stuff. Never mind.
-- Guile can always trump hardware -- |

Grim Starwind
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.11 02:42:00 -
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He sounds like france in 1939 =)
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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.01.11 03:02:00 -
[81]
stop whining and grow some balls. ---
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthese Edited by: Xanthese on 10/01/2008 23:49:45
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Bishop Stewart How many players are now going to quit this wonderful game because they can no longer enjoy it without being ganked by those who enjoy ruining other people's game experience? Those who only want to go ratting with their corporate friends, those who only want to mine, produce and enjoy the rich virtual economy?
If there's one thing Eve has proved time and time again, it's that for every weepy carebear that quits after being ganked, three badass griefers step up to take his place. Quit if you want to, but rest assured you will not be missed as long as this game's population continues to grow.
Why not use your masterful command of that rich Eve economy to hire some mercenaries to defend you? Recirculate some of your carebear earnings into that economy instead of sitting on your hoard like a frightened hen.
so - and I hate WoW - why does Wow get 100's of times more players, if not 1000's joinining every day : it's because you can learn the game without being griefed until you are a decent level - some poor carebear loses his ship 3 times on his trial period isn't going to stay - even though he could have grown to be awesome
Can baiting newbies is considered griefing by ccp, other than that, how does a newbie lose ships to pvp?
If he goes into lowsec, well thats like a lvl 5 newbie in wow trying to run lvl 30 instance in a contested zone.
Also, in wow, a lvl 60 can kill like 20 lvl 25 ppl solo. I'd like to see a battleship solo 25 frigs.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2008.01.11 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Xanthese Edited by: Xanthese on 10/01/2008 23:49:45
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
Originally by: Bishop Stewart How many players are now going to quit this wonderful game because they can no longer enjoy it without being ganked by those who enjoy ruining other people's game experience? Those who only want to go ratting with their corporate friends, those who only want to mine, produce and enjoy the rich virtual economy?
If there's one thing Eve has proved time and time again, it's that for every weepy carebear that quits after being ganked, three badass griefers step up to take his place. Quit if you want to, but rest assured you will not be missed as long as this game's population continues to grow.
Why not use your masterful command of that rich Eve economy to hire some mercenaries to defend you? Recirculate some of your carebear earnings into that economy instead of sitting on your hoard like a frightened hen.
so - and I hate WoW - why does Wow get 100's of times more players, if not 1000's joinining every day : it's because you can learn the game without being griefed until you are a decent level - some poor carebear loses his ship 3 times on his trial period isn't going to stay - even though he could have grown to be awesome
Can baiting newbies is considered griefing by ccp, other than that, how does a newbie lose ships to pvp?
If he goes into lowsec, well thats like a lvl 5 newbie in wow trying to run lvl 30 instance in a contested zone.
Also, in wow, a lvl 60 can kill like 20 lvl 25 ppl solo. I'd like to see a battleship solo 25 frigs.
disco-poc!
the lag of exploding 25 frigates with smarties would be phenomenal tho ---
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Morberi
Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.01.11 04:15:00 -
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There are plenty of legal game mechanics to fight this "Cyberbullying" try one of them.
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Jacob Etienne
Caldari Contempt.
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Posted - 2008.01.11 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop Stewart cyberbullies
I lol'd so hard.
Stop crying, srsly.
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I'm RickJames
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Posted - 2008.01.11 05:17:00 -
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Why not have an alt character with CEO skills create a character for a new corp in the alliance. Then corp members and leave the war declared corp, and join the other corp in the alliance. Then, no corp will be jumping alliances. |

ThaDollaGenerale
Questionable Intentions
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Posted - 2008.01.11 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop Stewart First, implement a toggle for corporations if they want to participate in wars or not. Not any specific war, but war in general.
AHAHA Really? Stay in an NPC corp, or take the risks and rewards of a player corp.
What's your main character's name so I can wardec the corp?
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Krows
Resource Reallocators Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.01.11 05:28:00 -
[88]
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.01.11 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Xanthese
so - and I hate WoW - why does Wow get 100's of times more players, if not 1000's joinining every day : it's because you can learn the game without being griefed until you are a decent level - some poor carebear loses his ship 3 times on his trial period isn't going to stay - even though he could have grown to be awesome
But this is what's so great about Eve. It weeds out the scrubs and caters only to hardcore players, most of whom were probably bored to death by other MMOs. WoW and DAoC and FFXI and AO and so many more, are all carebear games through and through. Their PvP is superficial and trivial. Even DAoC's RvR pales compared to 0.0 warfare, and besides all the RvR stats get reset as soon as one side gains too much.
Don't get me started on WoW's capture the flag.
Eve is the alternative. Like all other alternatives: music, movies, art, etc, it may not be appreciated by the average person, but that's not a problem. If CCP wanted to sell out for more customers (certain recent changes aside), they'd have designed the game differently.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.01.11 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 11/01/2008 06:29:30 Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 11/01/2008 06:27:58 Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 11/01/2008 06:26:59
Quote:
so - and I hate WoW - why does Wow get 100's of times more players, if not 1000's joinining every day : it's because you can learn the game without being griefed until you are a decent level - some poor carebear loses his ship 3 times on his trial period isn't going to stay - even though he could have grown to be awesome
And here's your problem. You think that surviving in EVE is about have teh wtflolpewn 1337 gear and skills. It's not. It's about knowing how to keep yourself alive and learning the game.
I am a new player, less than a month old. Hell, if you count that 14 of those days were on a trial account I had TWO YEARS AGO, I'm about 15 or so days old as far as EVE experience. Today I went into lowsec to do some ratting. TWICE I was stalked and chased by two very experienced pirates who have been playing for FAR longer than I have and have a lot more skills than I have. I did not die once. Why? Because I learned the mechanics of the game, I learned how to stay alive, and more importantly I grew to accept that EVE is not a game that I will always win at.
The above example wont always work for me, though. It keeps me alive much of the time, but I know there is a pirate out there who will kick the **** out of me and pod me. Hell, it already happened-Last week I was ratting in lowsec not paying attention to local or to my overview, and I got killed. Not only did I lose a lot of my money, I lost millions of ISK worth of implants (which is very significant to a player like me). I didn't get ****ed. I didn't convo the guy and tell him what an evil griefer he is. I moved on, realized "****, I need to pay more attention and take more precaution".
EVE is as exhilarating and fun as it is because, sometimes, you aren't going to win. In EVE, there is always a loser, and sometimes that loser will be you. Deal with it, it's part of EVE's core game design. Some players (namely you) don't like that game design. Some players aren't going to like the harsh nature of EVE.
That's too bad. Find another game. You're not going to like every game you play. There are already things in game to stop new players from being horribly abused before they learn the game. They are Hisec Space and NPC Corporations. Use them, love them.
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