They're tools and are used to bust balls.

Also, the game isn't broken

In almost all situations in this game, numbers win.

And a titan being able to rofl stop a few people is perfectly fine.

What wouldn't be fair is if small fish were able to take out bigger fish.

more crap.

Biased dribble about what is "balanced".

Nothing is stopping those people from applying to those alliances and join the winning side. They got that way because they put in the time and effort into it. Those start up alliances haven't done anything outside of leaving carebear land.

What wouldn't be fair is if small fish were able to take out bigger fish.
Obviously, they'd lose. All that they have ever done would never prepare them for what the group with the titans have accomplished to get there. Again, when claiming space seems impossible to claim on your own, maybe it's time to suck it up and join one of the bigger groups. Preferably the one that seems like it'll be around for a while.

I am a colossal moron and don't know anything about anything

As long as there are losers losing, people will always be crying for nerfs.

Look at the drake for christs' sake or anything with autocannons. Crying galore. And a simple counter is to jam those kind of ships. And the counter to ecm is to fit eccm mods and primary the jammers

Titans are fair and balanced.

it is fair considering all that goes into fielding them along the way as opposed to a regular sub cap fleet which is to take a bpo some trit here and there a manufacturing lab which can be done in high sec in a npc station in complete safety.

No they got that way because they own an I win button. Skill should always trump cash. There is a damn good reason why my corp managed to live in venal and hold off the NC at the hight of its power for years and cause some of the largest fleet losses ever seen in the game to that point. Small fish have always been able to take on the large and win in this game. Right now however even the large fish cant take on the titan blob.

The only thing broken about this game is the cap owners' ambition and attitude.

The bigger fish were small at some point and smart enough to not take on so many losses to allow then to become bigger fish.

And this force multiplier you speak of, why are there whelp fleets, alpha doctrine fleets, and lol drake fleets?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for startegy and tactics being able to turn the tables in a given situation

What about all them industrial ships that get ganked all the time in high sec? Them medium sized ships with a signature radius twice the sized of a cruiser, and effective hp of a frigate.

The balance people want isn't balance because they just want to win without having to put in the same amount of effort and time as the cap pilots.

Boo hoo

I agree with Surge Roth, most of the super capital nerf cryers are doing this because it benefits them.
They don't want to be able to think outside the box or use stragedy and tactics other than mindless blobbing.

They don't care if you put money, time, and effort in getting your supercap.

Stop whining about the supercapitals and shoot the subcapital fleet that's supporting them. Then those supers are just sitting ducks since they can't hit you.

GǪwhich will buff it quite drastically.

Except for when it comes to stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5aR0OK7MXE.
I'm sure there are other areas in the game where their shields stay at 27-30 percent and taking away the shield resists will make them pop in those situations.

But people like you wouldn't care.

So the drakes gains some more dps which will make it more effective at blobbing.

GǪexcept that the loss can be compensated for.

Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but now it's 50-100 Titan gangs thats just mental really


Btw i am asking because i am interested to know not because its a whine - before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens:).

Lmao. A kid whose in low-sec is bitching about titan tracking? Is this forreal or just a troll?


You bitched and moaned about doomsdaying of subcaps, now you're bitching about titans being able to pop sub-caps with regular guns. When the **** will you STOP bitching? Christ, you kids whine more than a nursery filled with infants.

Except for when it comes to stuff like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5aR0OK7MXE.
I'm sure there are other areas in the game where their shields stay at 27-30 percent and taking away the shield resists will make them pop in those situations. But people like you wouldn't care. So the drakes gains some more dps which will make it more effective at blobbing, but because they are in a blob, the dps increase will go unnoticed.

I especially liked the part of the video where he just floated in space and waited for the red bars to fill. I see no reason to take away ones freedom to not have to try.

The gist of eve is this. Some people might have to manually turn on and off a module here and there. Maybe double click in some space.

I hear fleet combat is whole groups of people doing this all at once. It's quite riveting I must say.

Even if the drake is compensated for, it still doesn't make up for the fact that what was once possible now is not. And that, is a swift kick in the balls for the poor sap who had nothing to do with a bunch of selfish whiny people who want things their way. As for the topic, I still firmly believe titans are ok. I wouldn't want to fly one, but they should be all powerful considering what they are and how much effort it takes to get one flying properly.

yeah all that effort to build them has ensured their rarity

or not

stop being dumb?

Yes

Lets make sure that Capitals cant hit battleship sized targets.

And while we're at it, lets make sure that battleships cant hit cruisersized targets, and cruisers cant hit frigatesized targets. Seems only fair.

In 6 months, all of EVE would be back in frigs. Ah, the good 'ol days.

Lmao. A kid whose in low-sec is bitching about titan tracking? Is this forreal or just a troll?


You bitched and moaned about doomsdaying of subcaps, now you're bitching about titans being able to pop sub-caps with regular guns. When the **** will you STOP bitching? Christ, you kids whine more than a nursery filled with infants.

I want the old DD back

Cost is a determining factor because it takes time and some PvEing and/or ganking of high value targets to get that isk. Again, they're easy to come by because people allowed it to happen. The alliances fielding these ships of mass destruction didn't start off with 150 titan fleets. Took em years to make it happen. And any fool who is stupid enough to fly solo in one will part ways with it in no time. They are justified in blowing up your crappy sub cap ships. If they get nerfed and become too weak, then it'll be one of many ships people just don't bother using anymore because they suck. They're suppose to be all powerful. They're suppose to be a pain in the ass to fight.