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WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:13:00 -
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Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens :) |
Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc
NEM3SIS.
52
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:20:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real gate camps happen :)
Fixed your post |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
1834
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:21:00 -
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Who knows. There really is two ways to fix the issue once and for all. One is to create an effective counter to them, that pwns them while is itself vulnerable to other ships classes and the second is to turn them in to non-combat focused ships. As long as they are the top of the foodchain in combat capability it's just a matter of time before their numbers again increase to the point where the old counters become useless in practical combat scenarios. |
Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
94
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:45:00 -
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Dear OP,
Thank you for your letter.
I am afraid there are bad news for you, changing the game won't stop you from being terrible.
Just stop sucking.
/T
Ronald Reagan: I do not like Sweden, they support communism.
Minister: Sir, but Sweden are anti-communist, Sir.-á
Ronald Reagan: I do not care what kind of communists they are. |
Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
176
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:46:00 -
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nerf lowsec |
Alex Sinai
Constantly Causing Problems Everyone Enjoys
87
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Posted - 2012.02.10 11:58:00 -
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Tobias Sjodin wrote:Dear OP,
Thank you for your letter.
I am afraid there are bad news for you, changing the game won't stop you from being terrible.
Just stop sucking.
/T
Dear OP,
It is my pleasure and honor to let you know that there is an excellent counter to 50-100 Titans. Same number of Titans or decent amount of bombers. Enough that supercap nerf crap. They are called supers not for Rifter to come and shoot at them but because they are superships. Nerf yourself OP. Or learn to fly a Titan in combat instead of sitting at gate pewing 100 at 1 as usual in Lowsec and OMG run run run at sight of a few bombers.
+10 to Tobias. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
568
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:13:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens :)
Firts listen to an opinion of those that use them, and just copy&paste that goons say like a mindles sheep. |
baltec1
576
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:20:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:Tobias Sjodin wrote:Dear OP,
Thank you for your letter.
I am afraid there are bad news for you, changing the game won't stop you from being terrible.
Just stop sucking.
/T Dear OP, It is my pleasure and honor to let you know that there is an excellent counter to 50-100 Titans. Same number of Titans or decent amount of bombers. Enough that supercap nerf crap. They are called supers not for Rifter to come and shoot at them but because they are superships. Nerf yourself OP. Or learn to fly a Titan in combat instead of sitting at gate pewing 100 at 1 as usual in Lowsec and OMG run run run at sight of a few bombers. +10 to Tobias.
Welcome to titans online... |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.02.10 12:54:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:Tobias Sjodin wrote:Dear OP,
Thank you for your letter.
I am afraid there are bad news for you, changing the game won't stop you from being terrible.
Just stop sucking.
/T Dear OP, It is my pleasure and honor to let you know that there is an excellent counter to 50-100 Titans. Same number of Titans or decent amount of bombers. Enough that supercap nerf crap. They are called supers not for Rifter to come and shoot at them but because they are superships. Nerf yourself OP or learn to fly a Titan in combat instead of sitting at gate pewing 100 at 1 as usual in Lowsec and ONG run run run at sight of a few bombers. +10 to Tobias.
bombers ahahahahahaha
it's like you don't play eve |
Clith
The Circle
39
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:28:00 -
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Those tracking titans are trading any decent tank they can get in order to make them hit smaller ships, making them a giant glass cannon. Nothing needs changing |
baltec1
576
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:28:00 -
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Clith wrote:Those tracking titans are trading any decent tank they can get in order to make them hit smaller ships, making them a giant glass cannon. Nothing needs changing
A glass cannon with more EHP and RR support than most fleets... |
Xtover
Macabre Votum
Against ALL Authorities
63
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:31:00 -
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Clith wrote:Those tracking titans are trading any decent tank they can get in order to make them hit smaller ships, making them a giant glass cannon. Nothing needs changing
I know, they only have a few million base HP with supercarrier support.
Not to mention, you can hold them down with a HIC... no wait that was one shotted. Well a dictor bubble.... nope, all of them instapopped.
Tracking titans are so fragile. |
Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
36
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:38:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens :) Firts listen to an opinion of those that use them, and just copy&paste that goons say like a mindles sheep.
BTA have titans now? OMG why did I leave such an awesome alliance! |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
568
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Posted - 2012.02.10 13:56:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens :) Firts listen to an opinion of those that use them, and just copy&paste that goons say like a mindles sheep. BTA have titans now? OMG why did I leave such an awesome alliance!
I didn't say no such thing. 
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Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION
Tactical Narcotics Team
36
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Posted - 2012.02.10 14:07:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Aruken Marr wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
I remember 50 man RR BS and nano gangs but not it's 50-100 Titan gangs just mental really
For info purposes only before you trolls happen - I live in low sec where real pvp happens :) Firts listen to an opinion of those that use them, and just copy&paste that goons say like a mindles sheep. BTA have titans now? OMG why did I leave such an awesome alliance! I didn't say no such thing.
Then what's the deal? |
CoLe Blackblood
the united
Negative Ten.
22
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Posted - 2012.02.10 15:01:00 -
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Look at these bitches that tell the OP to learn to fly a cap so he can fight a cap. What a bunch of tools. It's like watching a monkey with a rock bash himself in the face over and over. He should really stop doing that, but for some reason he just won't.
Remember the nano nerf 1 and 2? Remember falcons? Soon it will be remember when titans could hit the broad side of a barn and EVERYBODY had to have one? Good going dipshits as usual the few ruin it for the rest. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3098
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:25:00 -
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CCP is considering some options but doing one may overnerf it into oblivion.
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DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
222
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:33:00 -
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They cost nearly 100billion isk, the least they can do is insta pop your ****** dominix.
Damn nature, you scary! |
Dard Reguloni
Double-Down
Narwhals Ate My Duck
0
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:35:00 -
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CoLe Blackblood wrote:Look at these bitches that tell the OP to learn to fly a cap so he can fight a cap. What a bunch of tools. It's like watching a monkey with a rock bash himself in the face over and over. He should really stop doing that, but for some reason he just won't.
Remember the nano nerf 1 and 2? Remember falcons? Soon it will be remember the titans!
fixed that for you xD |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
465
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:37:00 -
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lol stealth butthurt  whine like Ninja in really bad hollywood movie!
*figure moving in the shadows, suddenly it leaps out*
"NERF TITANS! Can't take butthurt anymore!"
*as OP strikes his enter key with enthusiam to finish post* |
TriadSte
3rd Division
47
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:42:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:They cost nearly 100billion isk, the least they can do is insta pop your ****** dominix.
Since when did price have anything to do with performance?
You can take a $2 million Bugatti Veyron and put it up against a tuned Skyline GTR and the Veyron will loose around a track. For abour $1.8 million less spent.
Titan weapons are so large that giving them fast tracking makes no sense at all. They should only be able to hit other Supers / Titans.
The thought of being able to hit a HIC is just not right.
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baltec1
576
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:42:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:They cost nearly 100billion isk, the least they can do is insta pop your ****** dominix.
My pirate BS should be able to insta pop any frigate with its main guns because it costs so much more. |
Tore Vest
205
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:45:00 -
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jelly anyone ? 
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power.
Cascade Imminent
343
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Posted - 2012.02.10 16:46:00 -
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npc corps seem really opinionated on titans for some reason |
WhyTry1
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
70
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:33:00 -
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TriadSte wrote:DelBoy Trades wrote:They cost nearly 100billion isk, the least they can do is insta pop your ****** dominix. Since when did price have anything to do with performance? You can take a $2 million Bugatti Veyron and put it up against a tuned Skyline GTR and the Veyron will loose around a track. For abour $1.8 million less spent. Titan weapons are so large that giving them fast tracking makes no sense at all. They should only be able to hit other Supers / Titans. The thought of being able to hit a HIC is just not right.
This... And it defeats the whole point of a Hic when it can be instantly turned into flames but what it's supposed to be stopping |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4871
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Posted - 2012.02.10 17:43:00 -
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DelBoy Trades wrote:They cost nearly 100billion isk, the least they can do is insta pop your ****** dominix.
So if I spend 200 billion ISK on my Dominix, I will be able to insta-pop your titan?
Cost is not a balancing factor. Cost is a (very weak) factor in determining availability. Availability may be a balancing factor if you so choose (and utterly suck at balancing things), but is better used as just a pure epeen factor.
More to the point, if cost was a balancing factor, then either Titans would have to be nerfed toGǪ ohGǪ 1/20th of their current strength, or they would have to add another three zeros at the end of the price in order to match the Gǣmarginal improvement for magnitudes larger costGǥ progression of the rest of the game.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
leich
Sad Panda'z
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
13
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Posted - 2012.02.10 18:51:00 -
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Most of the posts in this thread miss the issue completely
I can counter BS
I can counter dreads and carriers
i can counter all other ship types
i cant counter titan blobs without more titans.
the issue is not that A titan can track subcaps. It;s that 150 titans cannot be countered without 150 titans.
It was the same issue with supers and is the reason the supers nerf was a complete waste of time. a blob of 50 supers could kill a 100 man BS gang and can still kill 100 man BS gang. but why use supers when titans are better at it.
Supers should be powerfull so should titans But there does need to be ways to counter them without bringing copy paste gang. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
60
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Posted - 2012.02.10 18:57:00 -
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I've been here for a few big rebalancing patches now. The general theme is that whenever X is (nearly) unbeatable, save "Bring more of X!", X and everything related to it always get sweeping rebalances that end up being good for the game in the long run (after much QQ and L2P on the forums, of course). It happened with torps, it happened with T2 BPOs, it happened with nano fits, it'll happen to caps too.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
300
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:11:00 -
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Titans are not glascannon when tracking fit. You cant tackle them since insta pop hic's or dicters. Only way to counter them is by a bigger blob. Atm there is one blob in eve that has the most supers in eve so they can not be countered by other supers because the first blob is too big and loss value too high. Therefor it is not possible to counter fleets of titans.
The newets trick is to target paint primaries. Instead of making the tracking very good, the sig radius is getting higher. So current stuation is that nothing has been cahnged and ccp need to rebalance them again.
Intoducing stuff properly is not something ccp is very good at. This can be the sandbox nature of eve or just the poo capabilities of the dev modifing the content. Lack of ingame pvp knowlage is rumourd to be the issue at CCP office in Reikjavik.
Inbefore another 10k subscriber loss: NERFBAT IT PROPERLY CCP
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
LtCol Laurentius
Digital Fury Corporation
Outbreak.
16
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:31:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Just wondered if the Titan tracking nerf and stopping them from insta popping sub caps was still going to happen?
Yes
Lets make sure that Capitals cant hit battleship sized targets.
And while we're at it, lets make sure that battleships cant hit cruisersized targets, and cruisers cant hit frigatesized targets. Seems only fair.
In 6 months, all of EVE would be back in frigs. Ah, the good 'ol days.
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