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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:00:00 -
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I've been spending my morning today looking at various alliance Killboards and wondering why some of these alliance holding space are STILL holding space.
Most noticeably is Hydra Alliance. 44% Killboard efficiency, and no ones decided to threaten their sov? Also United Legion has pretty crappy KB efficiency.
Who do you guys think is the least worthy to hold 0.0 space? (minus bob and goons, we all know how the majority feel about them).
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Xthril Ranger
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:02:00 -
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Edited by: Xthril Ranger on 14/01/2008 19:02:57 BoB? 
edit: oh , did not read whole post. never mind me then  . you'll never jump alone
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:02:00 -
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Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended)
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Thargat Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended)
once upon a time it was pvp that kept ur space...
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Thargat Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended)
you mean to say that when an alliance loses 4 carriers in one day, they know what their doing to hold sov? Only thing they really know is how to POS spam systems from those kind of stats.
I say no ones taken these alliances' space because its just too crappy to realy fight over...
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:05:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 14/01/2008 19:05:46 HYDRA are pure and MM pets so although they get owned at pvp they have help at space holding.
Killboards are for pvpers terratory is for blobbers.
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Thargat Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended)
once upon a time it was pvp that kept ur space...
QFT...yea i think you're on to something 
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matoni
Open Season
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:07:00 -
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Whatever Hydra is doing, in ****ing you off they're at least doing something right.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: MAXSuicide
Originally by: Thargat Judging alliances and corps by their KBs is bad mkay? (no pun intended)
once upon a time it was pvp that kept ur space...
You're being two-dimentional. There's all kinds of PVP out there. Some of it loses space. ...
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FuQue
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:11:00 -
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Using KB stats to diagnose efficiency is like putting screen-doors on a submarine to improve airflow.
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:13:00 -
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Both of those alliances are backed up by bigger, nastier mother******* who stand behind their pets looking scary whenever any attackers turn up.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue Using KB stats to diagnose efficiency is like putting screen-doors on a submarine to improve airflow.
And recruiting to gain space by spamming fleets into systems for long nights of frozen screens and crashing nodes is as much PVP as mining veld in a 1.0 system.
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: matoni Whatever Hydra is doing, in ****ing you off they're at least doing something right.
not rly ****ing me off tbh....just an observation as to alliances who suck at pvp and why theyre allowed to hold space. And who you all think doesnt deserve to own space based on such poor efficiency.
DeSTiNy. also has pathetic numbers on their boards. And we all know Tri kicked PL out of Deklein for being a ****ty pvp alliance, why havent they taken the extra step and kicked destiny out of upper dek?
It's not so much about HYDRA, although theyve probably got the worst 0.0 alliance KB stats, but more a question as to why alliances who cant defend themselves properly havent been threatened with a loss of space.
Also wana know who YOU all think doesnt deserve to hold 0.0 space based on their limited pvp capabilities.
Get past the "hydra is ****ing you off" stuff, silly, and read my whole OP, and maybe youll be able to form a reasonable answer ;)
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:19:00 -
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Spaceholding alliances that are weak alone are actually pretty common. All they need is a strong patron or significant NAP collection to keep them afloat.
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Mohadir Elrutra
Minmatar Veritas Amplus et Talio
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:21:00 -
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Insurgency suck at defending there space
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 14/01/2008 19:27:04 In hydras defence they have had over the last few months long visits from MDK and TERRA INCOGNITA now both of these alliances/corps are some pure and serious pvpers and i can think of few who could get better stats against them and a lot do much worse.
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: marakor And recruiting to gain space by spamming fleets into systems for long nights of frozen screens and crashing nodes is as much PVP as mining veld in a 1.0 system.
depends. seems like half the time i try to mine veld there is someone trying to flip my can. sucks having a command ship alt aligned nearby but definitely yields pvp.
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: marakor In hydras defence they have had over the last few months long visits from MDK and TERRA INCOGNITA now both of alliances/corps are some pure and serious pvpers and i can think of few who could get better stats against them and a lot do much worse.
i do believe the alliances in question have had ****ty KB stats since long before this post. (in hydra's case, im near positive that this is the case for at least 1 year on hydra's board)
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:38:00 -
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Judging by Goonfleet's KB, they have absolutely no right to hold space either.
All they do is fly t1 frigs, there's no way t1 frigs could stand up against the might of The Alliance.
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:38:00 -
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Also
My K:D Ratio Backbone!
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Tinka Toy
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:40:00 -
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Hydra is ripe for the picking for a lot of reasons. You'll have to approach Pure/MM on the diplomatic side and get approval first though. For the right price they might turn a blind eye, and claim they're too busy in the South to bother defending Hydra. Hydra itself isn't capable of doing squat, and they're losing PvP corps left and right as it is.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: DaiTengu Also
My K:D Ratio Backbone!
Seriously, our K/D ratio is horrible, how do people lose to us?
We deserve a drone region with this kind of K/D.
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: DaiTengu Also
My K:D Ratio Backbone!
Seriously, our K/D ratio is horrible, how do people lose to us?
We deserve a drone region with this kind of K/D.
We should just go back to Syndicate imo tbqh.
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Mark Lucius
The Vinlanders SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Kutie I've been spending my morning today looking at various alliance Killboards and wondering why some of these alliance holding space are STILL holding space.
Most noticeably is Hydra Alliance. 44% Killboard efficiency, and no ones decided to threaten their sov? Also United Legion has pretty crappy KB efficiency.
Who do you guys think is the least worthy to hold 0.0 space? (minus bob and goons, we all know how the majority feel about them).
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:51:00 -
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How about Mr. Alt go and take their space then with his main?
"Bring back the pain."
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Khanid Kutie
I R Teh Poasting Alt Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin How about Mr. Alt go and take their space then with his main?
too many ****ty alliances for me to take by myself.
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.14 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Kutie
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin How about Mr. Alt go and take their space then with his main?
too many ****ty alliances for me to take by myself.
Replying to excuse post.
"Bring back the pain."
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The JORG Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z You'll find all the actual pvpers who play just to pvp don't care about POS or sov
Correct.
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Farham
AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:04:00 -
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Quote: too many ****ty alliances for me to take by myself.
I think my irony meter just broke, feel ten stories into the street and got run over by a steamroller.
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FeeLtheSWARTZ
Prophets Of a Damned Universe Elemental Fury
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Posted - 2008.01.14 20:04:00 -
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/votes DESTINY. isk farmers even quit this alliance. They are horrible in every aspect, not just pvp.
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