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Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:03:00 - [1] Good times let me tell you. Every jump out was like a touch down. Bring back the 15km dash ccp combat shouldn't end at warp out
Puupuu Latrocinium	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:19:00 - [2] Yes! I wanna experience the fun that was copying thousands of bookmarks again!
Role Play Club Bear	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:30:00 - [3] Originally by: Puupuu Yes! I wanna experience the fun that was copying thousands of bookmarks again! lol agreed! - - - - - -
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:41:00 - [4] Let me rephrase that no instas a 15km minimum warp distance
Windjammer	Posted - 2008.01.17 07:57:00 - [5] Wow. There's a good idea. How obvious a troll is the OP?
Brother Priad Fluffy Bunny Killers	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:01:00 - [6] The 15km dash still exists, it's called autopilot.
LittleTerror Caldari Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:04:00 - [7] I hated the idea of warp to 0 at first but now I love it, lets me go anywhere nice and fast, befor it was so sole destroying moving even 20 junps in a battleship... You can still catch people fine on the jump in and even chase them on the other side.
Eternal Hatred Amarr Pantsu Garu Limited Technologies	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:13:00 - [8] WTZ is fine, people who hasn't adapted is not fine. Please fix those people CCP _________________ It's great being an Amarr, isn't it??? :(
Gaia Thorn Villains	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Eternal Hatred WTZ is fine, people who hasn't adapted is not fine. Please fix those people CCP Ohh sweet irony someone complaining about adaptation has a whine that amarr sucks in his sig.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 17/01/2008 08:23:38 Originally by: Brother Priad The 15km dash still exists, it's called autopilot. Do you run in your sleep? I've heard of sleep walking but never sleep running Originally by: Eternal Hatred WTZ is fine, people who hasn't adapted is not fine. Please fix those people CCP Warp to 15 was fine as well it was the bookmarks that caused the problem also pot meet kettle also I'm not a gate camper Originally by: LittleTerror I hated the idea of warp to 0 at first but now I love it, lets me go anywhere nice and fast, befor it was so sole destroying moving even 20 junps in a battleship... You can still catch people fine on the jump in and even chase them on the other side. Well I think that was one of the penalties that one dealt with for MOAR firepower. Which is why in some cases lighter ships would prevail instead of going with the moar guns mentality
NateX THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.01.17 08:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Brother Priad The 15km dash still exists, it's called autopilot. nope Autopilot is 10km :) R0ADKILL-killboard \|
Loc Maythan Gallente AlfaCorp	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:37:00 - [12] 15km dash also still happens if you got through a gate and end up in a warp bubble. Sometimes the closest 'safety' is the 15km dash back to the gate to jump out. Loc.
Presidente Gallente Pirate Hunters Inc Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.01.17 11:57:00 - [13] Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 17/01/2008 12:01:19 I do not support. EVE needs still loads of rl time depending on what you do. Warp to 0 had optimized travel time and made all those crazy insta warp spots useless = less lag. Warp to 0 will not really help you in 0.0. They just catch you on the other side depending on your ship and bookmarks. Warp to 0 gives a little chance to survive which is more then fair. There are still enough ways to kill people at 0.0 and low-sec gates. Warp to 15 is some kind of "passive bubble" mechanics. 0.0 is still horrible with warp to 0 but it baits noobs and not those brave PvPer into 0.0 = more targets and pew pew. So I see no reason to bring it back. +++ JOIN PAP +++
Gealbhan Caldari The SAS The Kano Organisation	Posted - 2008.01.17 14:13:00 - [14] "Warp to 0 will not really help you in 0.0. They just catch you on the other side depending on your ship and bookmarks. Warp to 0 gives a little chance to survive which is more then fair. There are still enough ways to kill people at 0.0 and low-sec gates." This. "Concentrate all your fire on one target, when it is destroyed, move on to the next. That is how you secure victory". - Tactica Imperium.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge	Posted - 2008.01.17 15:37:00 - [15] Originally by: Presidente Gallente Warp to 0 had optimized travel time and made all those crazy insta warp spots useless = less lag. I wanted to ask about this bookmark related lag. Are you talking about the lag you get from opening up your people and places tab or right clicking in space? Or do you just get more and more laggy in general because of the number of bookmarks you have. I ask because I have dozens up on dozens of BM in systems that I use for mission probing and I would be a sad panda if that is lagging up my computer. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Presidente Gallente Pirate Hunters Inc Exa Nation	Posted - 2008.01.17 15:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Omarvelous Originally by: Presidente Gallente Warp to 0 had optimized travel time and made all those crazy insta warp spots useless = less lag. I wanted to ask about this bookmark related lag. Are you talking about the lag you get from opening up your people and places tab or right clicking in space? Or do you just get more and more laggy in general because of the number of bookmarks you have. I ask because I have dozens up on dozens of BM in systems that I use for mission probing and I would be a sad panda if that is lagging up my computer. We all have dozens of BM's. But warp to 15km will cause additional massive BM's because everyone more experienced start to "fake" warp to 0km from every spot at the end. The lag is caused then by database issues the server has to deal with. +++ JOIN PAP +++
Kruel Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2008.01.17 16:29:00 - [17] 15km dash promotes more camping, less roaming. I like more roaming, and not having to depend on nanoships for everything, so I'm glad for WTZ.
Ceirwan S	Posted - 2008.01.17 16:51:00 - [18] Besides it took forever to copy the damn things! Forever to make them. And half the time you ended up that loads of people had the same safe spot cos they all copied the same list of instas :).
Taedrin Gallente Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.01.17 16:56:00 - [19] Originally by: LittleTerror I hated the idea of warp to 0 at first but now I love it, lets me go anywhere nice and fast, befor it was so sole destroying moving even 20 junps in a battleship... You can still catch people fine on the jump in and even chase them on the other side. Then again, with WTZ, you are almost invulnerable in a T1 frigate so long as you don't autopilot. Mind you, before WTZ you could gain the same invulnerability with instas. However, even back then not everyone (myself included) kept a comprehensive library of instas so there was a LOT more gatecamping back then. Even though I was a carebear back then, I think low sec was a more interesting place before WTZ. Ah well, it's not like gate piracy is COMPLETELY dead... You can still catch ships that align slowly on the warp out...
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 17:17:00 - [20] WTZ ruined small ship combat in empire. You cant catch anything small this days, frigs + shuttles not on AP are as good as untouchable without Smartbombs. Even I-stabbed cruisers and HACs are a serious problem to catch. The way EVE was meant to be played in the first place would be: no Bookmarks in 50km range around gates and Stations and the removal of WTZ so you have to warp in at 15km. Doubt the "hey WTZ is great! adapt to WTZ or fail!" faction could adapt to this!
Agazoth III	Posted - 2008.01.17 17:27:00 - [21] No what ruins small ship combat in empire is lame arse gateguns.
Corstaad	Posted - 2008.01.17 17:29:00 - [22] Stupid forums settings thats my leet hauler alt.
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2008.01.17 17:58:00 - [23] I fully support this idea. Do you have any idea how much isk there was to be made selling bookmarks? I think a full Sinq set was like 30M. And absolutely no risk. You fly around in a shuttle and at the destination, you copy the BM's and contract them to the customer. Who cares that it crippled the database. Blue Sky
Idaeus Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.01.17 18:21:00 - [24] Originally by: Slave 775 You cant catch anything small this days, frigs + shuttles not on AP are as good as untouchable without Smartbombs. Even I-stabbed cruisers and HACs are a serious problem to catch. Sensor boosted (or remote sensor boosted) Heavy Interdictors catch frigs and shuttles fairly well. Assign drones to assist the heavy 'dictor and half the time the shuttle or frig will be dead before they know what's going on. We goofed around with this a bit on some war targets with good results. Earned In Blood
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.17 18:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Altaree I fully support this idea. Do you have any idea how much isk there was to be made selling bookmarks? I think a full Sinq set was like 30M. And absolutely no risk. You fly around in a shuttle and at the destination, you copy the BM's and contract them to the customer. Who cares that it crippled the database. I meant no BM's
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2008.01.17 19:31:00 - [26] would be nice if there was a follow him command so that if he warped off you automatically followed him. be fun for both sides as it would make safespots riskier to use. also opens up the possibilities of warping into an ambush for you bad boys.
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.01.17 19:37:00 - [27] Originally by: Ehranavaar would be nice if there was a follow him command so that if he warped off you automatically followed him. be fun for both sides as it would make safespots riskier to use. also opens up the possibilities of warping into an ambush for you bad boys. I would like to see that possible with interceptors but really all I'm trying to end is the fact of warp being the end of a fight
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.01.17 19:54:00 - [28] Edited by: Ja''kar on 17/01/2008 19:56:40 Yes! I wanna experience the fun that was copying thousands of bookmarks again! Ok I have said this many times BMÆs should have been removed û wt15 was the wrong way to do it û and it is my suggestion that BMÆs were not the only reason or the main reason why wt15 was removed. Here is a reasonÆs why I think I was sloppy and lazy of CCP and show yet again that playing eve your way is ok, as long as it fits CCPÆs model of playing. 1.BMÆs well they could have been dealt with a long time ago û like years, but, CCP did not care about it. I personally think that they should have been deemed an exploit. BMÆs became a problem these areas as I see it. a)creating server issues b)player travel times (which I think was fair (but could have made it wt10) c)people kept getting killed by pirates that used game mechanics better then most other players, funny thing was people could and did over come those tactics but most carebears just want eve on easy mode. d)Carebears wanted pirates to be stuck on the gate so it was easier to kill them 2.it really kills solo play on gates û I had a set up that allowed my to solo on gate and overcome the gate guns (not an everlasting tank) and I was still taking a huge risk (key word risk) 3.gate campin is so boring now û far to risky for solo work 4.Pirates have adapted from day one û CCP just donÆt like us and only care about alliance online. I find eve really boring now û wt0 killed a lot of fun and put eve on easy mode û cannot eve chase down ppl from one gate to the next. Really poor performance as I see it. Ok wt15 and BMÆs at gates are not linked so you have to remove one to remove the other
Khudo	Posted - 2008.01.17 19:59:00 - [29] in ideas section, someone proposed to make the stellar objetc orbiting while down time. This makes the bookmarks useless behind 24 hours... With the bookmark "exploit" destroyed, ccp can put away WTZ
Slave 775 Ministry of Punishment Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.17 20:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Khudo in ideas section, someone proposed to make the stellar objetc orbiting while down time. This makes the bookmarks useless behind 24 hours... With the bookmark "exploit" destroyed, ccp can put away WTZ I love this idea !!

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