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BuIIseye Amarr Pax Amarria Corp	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:03:00 - [31] Countdown until VOTF leaves KOS 5... 4... 3... ------------------------------ Yes i am hax0r Because of the name I have a higher chance of a wrecking shot, please don't tell the GM's or they'll nerf me =/
Endeva Caldari Most Wanted INC	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:05:00 - [32] Edited by: Endeva on 24/01/2008 12:06:55 Edited by: Endeva on 24/01/2008 12:05:34 rumpe i told your m8s whats gonna happend and they didnt listen:D first dmc now kos:) and bob is evil:P probably as i see this is going in direction where aaa can strenght themself and take more space so in future when tcf and IAC are also kicked from their space it will stay goonsa ra and aaa. and guess who from these 3 what 2 allainces are brothers:D so russians will probably get what they always wanted. so while you northern monkeys attacking bob for some reason iac tcf also same as goons your russian m8s from RA drops one capital fleet in a 3 month period and AAA is expanding their space.so if you wanna quote me in future map will look like RA+aaa only atleast this part of map from cache to stain. edit: so il say for future. goodbye kos,iac,tcf and goons o/
Rumpelstilski Caldari The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:06:00 - [33] It's good to hear from a goon here :) Just to make thing clear 'n' all :) AAA isn't coalition, but is Goon&RA&IAC (nice people who dominate on the empire&querious JB route) friendly. Goonswarm has demonstrated no will to defend KOS in it's space, to be honest, if I weren't KOS I wouldn't help myself either. The southern coalition needs to have strong and active and reliable allies - if I were a goon, I'd like to have someone like, ok maybe not quite like AAA, but someone like TCF or even B-OUT in Tenerifis, or some new fresh & rising loyal alliance. However, this leads to believe that there are those coalition members whom Goons will defend form non-coalition attacks, and there are members of the coalition who will not be defended from outside attack by stronger eve entities that are not BoB. I am rather new, so I don't really handle the niceties of eve diplomacy, but is it impolite to ask which ones of your allies would you be willing to defend if AAA or someone else decides to attack them? Best regards, Rump
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:18:00 - [34] That's why I got a deep respect for RA and AAA. Welcome to RA world, train Tactical Manipulation to 5 if you want to understand what's going on since "coalition" was formed :p
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:33:00 - [35] Edited by: Nebuchadnezzar I on 24/01/2008 12:34:02 Err i cant possibly imagine RA hasnt approved of this. It's not like RAT and RA arent close :D
caraushelu	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:36:00 - [36] Well , if I would have had the power to decide anything in KoS , I would have done like this : - immediatly open discussions with BoB with the phrase : " Heya mates! You said you wanted epic battles , right?Just nice,clean fights,right?".Then just let BoB know that cyno-jammers are gone in C3 and they could easily use their cyno from their POS 4 jumps away of C3.Tell BoB the AAA forces present in C3 , tell BoB the exact locations and structure of AAA forces! - Set the whole Coalition red... - Nice , epic fights...lotsa fun pew pewing! :) Brrr....* waking up from a nice dream * Darn , I ain't KoS leader, damnit! :D
Malibu Stacey Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:38:00 - [37] Originally by: Fire Hawk That's why I got a deep respect for RA and AAA. Welcome to RA world, train Tactical Manipulation to 5 if you want to understand what's going on since "coalition" was formed :p They planned it at a BBQ in 1996. True story. --- Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Liam Galagher Savey	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:41:00 - [38] Originally by: Bonita Ramirez Originally by: Tamo Isrect One simple question: What makes KOS a coalition member? When they were ratting 23/7 they didn't forget to hate BOB i allowed myself to fix it forya. nice one _________________________________________ solo pirating ftw!
Shadoo North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:49:00 - [39] If you were never strong enough to defend yourself, why would others defend the space that was basically given to you free by others hard work? It's time to RIP KOS, the joke has gone on for far too long. May you die quickly and may your pilots find better places to reside.
Liam Galagher Savey	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:51:00 - [40] Originally by: Shadoo and may your pilots find better places to reside. wait... like in.... syndicate? _________________________________________ solo pirating ftw!
Chip2k3 Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:52:00 - [41] official reply: for ***s and giggles hope that clears that up MEMBER OF TEAM TURBOÖ*
KiVaQ	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:54:00 - [42] Basically its a russian thing both RA and AAA are too far up there own arse to see big pic but hey nothing changes
Firkragg Blue Labs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:55:00 - [43] Originally by: caraushelu Edited by: caraushelu on 24/01/2008 12:38:25 Well , if I would have had the power to decide anything in KoS , I would have done like this : - immediatly open discussions with BoB with the phrase : " Heya mates! You said you wanted epic battles , right?Just nice,clean fights,right?".Then just let BoB know that cyno-jammers are gone in C3 and they could easily use their cyno from their POS 4 jumps away of C3.Tell BoB the AAA forces present in C3 , tell BoB the exact locations and structure of AAA forces! - Set the whole Coalition red... - Nice , epic fights...lotsa fun pew pewing! :) Brrr....* waking up from a nice dream * Darn , I ain't KoS leader, damnit! :D PS : now be honest to yourselves , KoS people , how many of you would have just LOVED that to happen,huh ? :DDDD Somone actually made a joke about inviting bob along but that wasnt the plan we had arranged at the BBQ (btw ET makes the best burgers). That bob pos is long dead and killed btw (you can thank us later -a-) I would just like to quickly say that the kos members posting on COAD dont really reflect the rest of the alliance. We knew this was coming and its unfortunate that its came at a time when the alliance was suffering over internal issues. We bear no grudge and kos isnt expecting any of its allies to intervene in a blue vs blue situation. Im actually sorry we arent in a better position to give -a- some good fight. When they did some ops against us over new years we gave some good performances and even a few -a- members grudgingly admitted they were suprised. I hope people are able to ignore the COAD smack and realise that kos does have some really good players within it. Anyways ill leave this thread to degenerate into more smack or whatever i just thought id try and post something that wasnt "OMG KOS SUX SIGNED MR.ALT" or "OMG SAVE US1111!!!" p.s the russians did it
Zzleeper Amarr Dark.. Matter..Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.24 12:56:00 - [44] i think KOS should be wiped of the face of EVE. Numberone reminds me of ginger magician, an alt maybe? Signature removed. This signature does not reflect your persona and is taken from another player. Navigator
DanMck Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:01:00 - [45] Originally by: Barthezz Even IF (big IF) RA was annoyed by the actions from AAA (which I sincerely doubt), do you really think they want to open that door by starting a war with AAA? KOS is peanuts, always have been. And wasnt it RA that took pity on KOS after beating the crap out of them 1.5 years ago? All I can say is good luck, you'll need it. Now stop whining, it makes you look even weaker. Its one alliance, either show that you can hold your own or gtfo of 0.0. Crap now I posted again, Dan will be mad, sorry Dan ! i see you !
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:13:00 - [46] Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 24/01/2008 11:53:38 Originally by: Fitz Chivalry It is hardly rocket science. 1. Everyone enjoys easy fights where they get loads of kills and few losses. We - dont. Aye, they dont. Just like BoB. - Gob IXC Recruitment
Mr Mozzie Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:22:00 - [47] Originally by: Evil Thug We are not afraid of losing ships. For 2 years that we are fighting bob - we inflicted more damage to them, than them to us. At least according to their killboard. Not trying to flame, and with respect to your no-bs attitude to coad, alliance k:d ratios are misleading. The BoB killboard registers one kill for each alliance that participates in a kill. Even if 30 ships are on the killmail and only one is from AAA, then AAA will get a whole kill. That causes an artificial inflation of the kill statistics of all alliances, including BoB. So, you need to factor in the participation of each alliance in each kill. I did a semi-random survey of AAA losses and kills on the killboard. I found that on average about 50% of ships on AAA killmails belong to AAA. About 80-90% of ships on AAA loss mails belong to BoB. Using these figures your 1.13:1 k/d ratio becomes 0.56:1-0.7:1. Admittedly, this is one of the better k:d ratios on our board. As I said my survey was only semi-random and I didnÆt have a huge sample size. The statistics should be in the ballpark.
Kriger x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:24:00 - [48] Not that i in any way feel sorry for u guys, but congrats KOS. You are the latest victims of what RA is all about (decieving). You've outlived your usefullness and AAA are a much stronger and viable ally for RA. There's actually little reason for them to keep you around if AAA is willing to kick you out. AAA might be trying to depict themselves as a seperate entity, but with Rage and Terror at its core, you can rest assured they will never take one shot at RA. So have fun, and let the next piece of cattle walk into RA's little fools'n'greed trap. .: Kriger's gfx Factory :: x13 :.
Breaky Uzumaki Caldari Colorectal Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:41:00 - [49] Didn't KOS reinforce/ try to reinforce a AAA cynogen POS to set this whole thing off? If so, there's your answer about why youre getting attacked.
Centauris Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:44:00 - [50] Maybe it has something to do with the fact that AAA now or never has been "part" of the coalition? Dunno just wild guess.... Thundercats 4 Life
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Mr Mozzie Originally by: Evil Thug We are not afraid of losing ships. For 2 years that we are fighting bob - we inflicted more damage to them, than them to us. At least according to their killboard. Not trying to flame, and with respect to your no-bs attitude to coad, alliance k:d ratios are misleading. The BoB killboard registers one kill for each alliance that participates in a kill. Even if 30 ships are on the killmail and only one is from AAA, then AAA will get a whole kill. That causes an artificial inflation of the kill statistics of all alliances, including BoB. So, you need to factor in the participation of each alliance in each kill. I did a semi-random survey of AAA losses and kills on the killboard. I found that on average about 50% of ships on AAA killmails belong to AAA. About 80-90% of ships on AAA loss mails belong to BoB. Using these figures your 1.13:1 k/d ratio becomes 0.56:1-0.7:1. Admittedly, this is one of the better k:d ratios on our board. As I said my survey was only semi-random and I didn’t have a huge sample size. The statistics should be in the ballpark. Bob have great history of coordinating with friendly alliances on the battlefield. And if we will take this part of statistic - ratio will be something like 3 : 1. Mc titan cough
Tharim Villains	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:53:00 - [52] I know i shouldnt post in here, and i know i will regret it as allways. But really.. Both KOS and DMC reminds me of that movie on youtube, where that guy decides that its a good idea to put a rocket up his behind, and set it on fire. We are all sitting there watching it and thinking" hmm thats not really gonna end well" and you cant help but laugh when the stupid kid starts crying cus he just realized that it hurts having a rocket on fire, up there.. Setting RA to blue, that tends to..well..backfire..
StealthRavenx Caldari The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:54:00 - [53] I personally hate the fact that we as an entity can't mount even a respectable defense twords -A-. We never got rid of the ****loads of carebears and farmers before it was too late. The dedicated players saw this coming, but internal issues and meltdowns made it all the more impossible to recover. Respect to -A- for bringing it, and sorry we can't offer some fun pewpew, but some of us are going to go down fighting, even it it means loosing everything. StealthRavenx The Taining Corp
Kriger x13 When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:55:00 - [54] Originally by: Centauris Maybe it has something to do with the fact that AAA now or never has been "part" of the coalition? Dunno just wild guess.... yea and the US never had troops in Laos i take "Selfchosen ignorance" for 100 plz... .: Kriger's gfx Factory :: x13 :.
icmp Caldari Screaming Fist	Posted - 2008.01.24 13:59:00 - [55] Originally by: Maimonides Einotar screaming fist more like screaming devs
Endeva Caldari Most Wanted INC	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:00:00 - [56] Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Mr Mozzie Originally by: Evil Thug We are not afraid of losing ships. For 2 years that we are fighting bob - we inflicted more damage to them, than them to us. At least according to their killboard. Not trying to flame, and with respect to your no-bs attitude to coad, alliance k:d ratios are misleading. The BoB killboard registers one kill for each alliance that participates in a kill. Even if 30 ships are on the killmail and only one is from AAA, then AAA will get a whole kill. That causes an artificial inflation of the kill statistics of all alliances, including BoB. So, you need to factor in the participation of each alliance in each kill. I did a semi-random survey of AAA losses and kills on the killboard. I found that on average about 50% of ships on AAA killmails belong to AAA. About 80-90% of ships on AAA loss mails belong to BoB. Using these figures your 1.13:1 k/d ratio becomes 0.56:1-0.7:1. Admittedly, this is one of the better k:d ratios on our board. As I said my survey was only semi-random and I didnÆt have a huge sample size. The statistics should be in the ballpark. Bob have great history of coordinating with friendly alliances on the battlefield. And if we will take this part of statistic - ratio will be something like 3 : 1. Mc titan cough errm i wanted to write something now but i wont:P il be nice
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:12:00 - [57] Originally by: Rumpelstilski Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 11:12:02 Edited by: Rumpelstilski on 24/01/2008 11:11:16 Again.. As I promised in http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=689578&page=2#40 We will try to determine why AAA isn't abiding by RA's ban on sov warfare between southern coalition members. I believe this question has a larger political context, so please keep off the spam and smack and say what you think. If need be, more possible answers will be added to the poll as additional answers are already added from subsequent posts on the "AAA taking C3" thread. AAA challenges RA will and global interests? RA didn't really mean it when they said it (that's called a lie, no?) RA really meant what it said, but that deal is off from some time in the past but no one told KOS leadership? It's all a big misunderstanding, AAA isn't a part of southern coalition, funny eh? Did anyone tell RSF? :) What RA really meant in fine print is (which also is kinda not honest) - "no picking on coalition members unless they are the weakest link in the coalition" What RA really meant in fine print is (which also is kinda not honest) - "no picking on coalition members unless they are the weakest link in the coalition" and do so until only Goons, AAA and RA are left What RA really meant in fine print is (which also is kinda not honest) - "no picking on coalition members unless they are the weakest link in the coalition" and do so until only RA is left I love sweet-sweatshop tears. :)
Corewin Deathwatch Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Tamo Isrect Edited by: Tamo Isrect on 24/01/2008 11:57:08 "RA's ban on sov warfare between southern coalition members" One simple question: What makes KOS a coalition member? Sure, noone excepted KOS to be a big help. But did KOS even try? I guess it's your own lazyness that brought you this outcome. Tamo Thats BS and you know it. Of course KOS can't accurately present itself in "coalition" efforts, when AAA camps the pipe to the location. AAA is as guilty of ganking in mass as any other wannabe self righteous alliance. Heaven forbid there be an overall objective... if easy kills are involved there is obviously no reason to deny them. AAA is attacking KOS just for the sake of attacking an alliance which will bulster their killboards, while taking minimal loses. Also, what better way to gain space than attacking a region that has no defensive capability what so ever. Multiple entry points from alliances that are NAP'd with both involved parties. Its easy to see, atleast from a tactical stand point, which alliance has the upperhand. Some real PVP vs Bob would smear a killboard with quite an ugly mark. So stop coming up with halfassed excuses that are so called "reasons" why you are attacking. The weak will always be picked on by the strong. This is just another statistic.
Hitme Harder HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:14:00 - [59] Because you should be renting. AREN'T THEY ADORABLE?
Pezdestroyer	Posted - 2008.01.24 14:15:00 - [60] Originally by: thebold Originally by: Rumpelstilski That's a normal consequence when too much of a given alliance's member base spends it's time carebearing and not responding to ctas, no grief there. And I disagree about the accusation regarding RA. We all believe RA to be leaders of the southern coalition. When members of the coalition who are not really members but they are too start disregarding RA declarations which are both absolute and conditional - then something doesn't add up. We are here to try to see what Eve players think is the part that doesn't add up. RA care primarly for there space that has been there home since the dawn of EVE. They also care about people that show types of commitment, loyalty/trust and willing to persevere, as you have said you have great numbers but no one turns up to a CTA... Then you need to show not just RA but others your ability to shed your dead weight and get to grips with your existing corps that want to do things and make change. In theory you could drop your alliance to 5 solid corp membership and build internal power blocks instead of multiple corps for greater numbers. Then when those 5 corps fight there hearts out for something you may find someone more willing to help you out... Until you make any reforms your alliance moral will continue to drop like a lead balloon. Trust me when I say, if a alliance member sees 50 in alliance and 45 in gang and you still can not fight, that alliance member will see that everyone is there with him and he is not alone... the flip side is futile. now why is it no one gets it........ well you may try and kick me and my corp from Ten. region but not until i leave in a pod. and &*^k all the carebear corps who are leaving anyways, im here to fight thats why i came to 0.0 and if im in a weak alliance, who cares, there are some nice guys i fly with, and soon will die next to in fleet. But until we have no more ships to fly, those of us staying to fight(and not running),will be here in the Ten. Region. So good luck to all and see you(-A-) in the battelfield!

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