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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:16:00 -
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Quote: I just don't see the point people are making about getting BPs from the same agent.
They got a BPO - RPs get zero'd, within two weeks they got another BPO, the exact same type of BPO.
Its significant that its the same agent and not a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th one (or even another account char) because the chances of it occuring on the same agent are so astronimically high.
The fact that some people only have one agent, and thus are bound to, given infinite years, get repeat wins on that agent, is not at issue.
Same BP, within a very short time, from same agent is.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:18:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: I just don't see the point people are making about getting BPs from the same agent.
They got a BPO - RPs get zero'd, within two weeks they got another BPO, the exact same type of BPO.
Its significant that its the same agent and not a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th one (or even another account char) because the chances of it occuring on the same agent are so astronimically high.
The fact that some people only have one agent, and thus are bound to, given infinite years, get repeat wins on that agent, is not at issue.
Same BP, within a very short time, from same agent is.
What are you saying. It could never be !!!!!!!!! --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.03.26 14:27:00 -
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Please move to Idea Lab forum. --------------------------
Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies |

Tease
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Posted - 2004.03.26 15:41:00 -
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Quote: Please move to Idea Lab forum.
why? so this issue can be "officially" ignored instead of just plain ignored?
----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.03.26 15:45:00 -
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It¦s not being ignored ..
Already forwarded to a number of people.
Join the IC! |

Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.03.26 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Morkt Drak on 26/03/2004 15:52:15
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Quote: Please move to Idea Lab forum.
why? so this issue can be "officially" ignored instead of just plain ignored?
Its not being ignored. (Just ignore Hari he cyber-stalks my posts just to post stuff like that. hes been doing it for weeks now)
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Tease
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Posted - 2004.03.26 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tease on 26/03/2004 16:00:47
Quote: It¦s not being ignored ..
Already forwarded to a number of people.
that's what we've been getting told now for 2 or 3 months.
we keep being told that it's "being looked into", meanwhile more and more people are giving up altogether because nothing is being done.
----------------------------------------- [2003.12.17 06:35:20] Corwin > Orvolle is .4? Doesn't that mean that it's less than .5 ? and isn't .5 what starts the danger level? [2003.12.30 07:15:50] Corwin > Tech 2, IE expanded cargo holds I, MIning lasers 2, etc.... TL2 is being released all around you [2003.12.30 07:21:20] Corwin > tech 2 is released to players. Some players are busy researching the BPs before building stuff. Others are sitting on the BPs making copies to make money off of them that way |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.03.26 16:03:00 -
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Quote:
that's what we've been getting told now for 2 or 3 months.
we keep beeing told that it's "being looked into", meanwhile more and more people are giving up altogether because nothing is being done.
Not really. What you see and what is happening are often two entirely dfferent things.
PapaSmurf is investigating. Judging by his presence in IRC, as well as his comments on the boards, he never makes statements out of the blue. If PS says he will investigate , he will investigate.
I passed this link to some people (not that they hadn't already noticed the thread), because I agree with Morkt. Whilst this is being investigates, it would be a good idea to halt research on limited, high-prifile blueprints, such as Interceptor blueprints.
Join the IC! |

Arcadian
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Posted - 2004.03.26 16:18:00 -
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Soon as they announced the method of giving out T2 BP's I stopped doing research agent missions..... Waste of time.... the fact that it would be FUBAR is pretty damn predictable based on past CCP history.
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Mon Palae
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Posted - 2004.03.26 17:04:00 -
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FYI: Papa Smurf has replied to this in the Missions Forum.
Quote: Originally Posted by Papa Smurf:
There are a bunch of rumours going on about the lottery and various theories about how to exploit it.
Yes, I have heard the rumours.
I'm looking into the issue, have and will be adding even more logging to properly analyze the distribution. Until I've finished analyzing the data, there is nothing new worthwhile for me to say on the subject however. This does not mean that I'm ignoring the issue, and it doesn't mean that I'll have a result tomorrow or the day after.
SOURCE: The "Lottery Situation"
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Agent Shield
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Posted - 2004.03.26 17:49:00 -
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Quote: Its like collecting airmiles day after day, but having to pay for them and not being able to cash them in. 
And if you have my bad luck, after collecting the required amount of miles to cash in; they move the carrot another 5k miles to use them. It happened to me that I needed 20k miles, got them, then went to cash, now the rules are 25k miles for same ticket.
If this lottery is abandoned/changed, I just wonder how far the carrot will move this time.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.03.26 19:52:00 -
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Just for the record, I got an Ares (frig) BPO with my 'since castor' total of 9k RP. I haven't had a second one yet. If I do, I'll let you all know. .
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2004.03.27 12:44:00 -
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I have 4 mission projects running and no BPO, but i am still happy. I got a nice mission with 4 nice npc cruisers. Looks like the agent database in under constrution :D
I can not confirm a bug with double BPO, i never got one.
btw. when the unlimited BPCs (T1) will be changed ?
------------------------------------------------ CEO of Spectre Syndicate - Curse Alliance ------------------------------------------------ |

NightDragon
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Posted - 2004.03.27 23:04:00 -
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you know i dont think we would be so mad, as long as people who got a blueprint get another one in such a quick time, also, i think the R&D should be you pick a project, and you pick what you want to get, then its a random number that you need to research toget that BP, and then it should also be based on how many other people are picking that same BPC and then let it be randomized on who gets it next |

Ankh
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Posted - 2004.03.28 00:11:00 -
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Quote: Whilst this is being investigates, it would be a good idea to halt research on limited, high-prifile blueprints, such as Interceptor blueprints.
Oh this is SOOOO encouraging... 24,000 RP's under my belt researching starships and you advise me to stop researching? C'mon guys. This thread is about the fair allocation of the few bp's available for starships etc, not which research subjects are more likely to give you a bp.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2004.03.28 02:16:00 -
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The problem with this is its all based on hersay, Morkt has himself stated this.
I have personally not heard of anyone getting 2 BPO in a row like it is described here but if people say that is the case then I think its up to CCP to investigate... wich they are *yay*
Untill Papa Smurf comes back with the verdict I will consider this a moot issue.
There have been far too many "this is how you beat the spread" posts on all things from how to get an implant to how to make NPC drop better loot.
I have found that playing like the devs intended (I think) seems to in the long run pay off.
In short, I will remain sceptical about this untill a dev, papa I guess would be most probable, comes out and confirms it.
I am however expecting him to deny it, sadly there are alot of ppl who claim they have gotten this or that.
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Kulath
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Posted - 2004.03.28 02:40:00 -
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Couldn't agree more. The lottery is broken and this is finally the first time I'm speaking out on the forums about it. I actually wrote CCP about it and basically got told to ----off. They can't face the fact they've screwed this up worse then they screwed Miner 2's up. They should have left it where they were gonna do invention and reverse engineering. And I've actually restarted my first agent and currently have 5 research agents and training for a 6th. And I still won't get a damn thing. In fact have over half our corp doing research projects and have only received 1 T2 bpo to date. Sorry but if you ask me, this brings back memories of another game, Everquest, where people were setting up friends and themselves to receive all the good items.
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