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missionalt GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 00:41:00 - [151] Edited by: missionalt on 04/02/2008 00:41:22 Edited by: missionalt on 04/02/2008 00:41:02 Originally by: pershphanie question for all you smashkill haters: If smashkill suck so bad, how do they start so much **** making enemies with everyone in eve while not ever really losing anything big? you dont bother smacking the guy pissing in your cheerios when someone is trying to burn your house down
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 01:08:00 - [152] Smashkill is a dead alliance why are you guys talking about us?
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 01:08:00 - [153] the fact that the ms deal i said not to do has nothing to do with it. the other things remidial did has nothing to do with it. the fact that we did fight reds every day and it ended how it is today, inly diff is we kinda smile at each other. Pretty sad the mighty dungar knows so much about so little. Ill make sure to remember when smash is killed again its cause of dungar not everyone else. As for all the haters, smashkill took tde defended k25 if you dont like the single alliance with 2 names then cry somewhere else. the time well seperate is the time we quit eve. Persh your the only one who comes up with some logic. woulda figured if we were hated so much and had a 450 man mad pact fleet vs us why none of the other haters took the oppurtunity. maybe because at leadership levels theres no hate and we all see eye to eye.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.04 02:32:00 - [154] Originally by: pershphanie question for all you smashkill haters: If smashkill suck so bad, how do they start so much **** making enemies with everyone in eve while not ever really losing anything big? Because Geminate is a terrible region, they only hold terrible space, pick on people that are terrible, and the people that hate them the most are busy elsewhere. I'm not terribly impressed that they can pick on a few drone region entities and then claim to be PvPers. All they have ever done is leech off of other people's work (going all the way back to Cloudring), spam towers, and lose fleets to corporations and alliances I didn't know existed prior to their "we just owed smashkill* a hundred ways from sunday" after action threads. How do I know Smashkill isn't going to amount to anything? I saw first-hand what SMASH did for Goonfleet in Cloudring, and I don't think the Serpentis have recovered from what SMASH did to their 10/10 complex there. I had the distinct "pleasure" of working with Peoke personally during the LV campaign and hearing promise after promise that was failed to be delivered. I got to hear him snivel and whine like a little babby after Miz scammed UAxDeath out of his mothership. Want to know what hell's like? Try spending two hours with Peoke crying "But it's not my fault, I didn't know Miz was a scammer!". I can appreciate your optimistic attitude Persh, but I know the first thing a number of alliances are going to do after BoB is dead is go give Geminate the enema that it's been long over-due for. Still don't believe me? There a ton of videos out there by Cosmic Fusion, INFOD, Cult of War, and a few, lesser-known corporations that show Smashkill getting killed in ways I never thought possible. I have no problem with R0adkill. I like Scooter and IE-EX was the first 0.0 corporation I ever joined, all the way back in the Stain days. my opinions are my own and may or may not be shared by my corporation or alliance* ---
Devian 666 Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 02:37:00 - [155] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth I got to hear him snivel and whine like a little babby after Miz scammed UAxDeath out of his mothership. Want to know what hell's like? Try spending two hours with Peoke crying "But it's not my fault, I didn't know Miz was a scammer!". I didn't know that Miz was the person involved in that. That's hilarious given how well known he is for his trademark. Originally by: Darkrydar Oh and killboard loss arguments are so 2005.
Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 03:26:00 - [156] The fact that we went to cloud ring on contract as we did to norad. The fact that goon swarm was so broke that remidial told us to run the plex to pay for the contract. The fact that the amount we ran it coinsided with ever pos we reinforced. I clearly remeber goons only cap was remidials thanatos that was moving cruisers 24/7. In the final days a goon revalation. The fact that the siege was cancelled because of your failed leadership in getting a fleet on the final days to cover the system for more then the us tz wasnt our fault. The contract was over when remidial decided to pull out. We went to geminate you went to syndicate and had fun with dbp. As for the south again Remidial promised us the plex instead of isk which goons and co was always low on. The fact that we even did contracts on faith and future considerations is clearly enough for its self. But spin it how you want, we all know how it went down and i dont care, seeing as when bob came from the north to lay claim to period basis it was smash and rubra and other ex fa corps fighting for tpar way before your goon swarm or Pl was even thought of.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.04 03:54:00 - [157] Originally by: Peoke The fact that we went to cloud ring on contract as we did to norad. The fact that goon swarm was so broke that remidial told us to run the plex to pay for the contract. The fact that the amount we ran it coinsided with ever pos we reinforced. I clearly remeber goons only cap was remidials thanatos that was moving cruisers 24/7. In the final days a goon revalation. The fact that the siege was cancelled because of your failed leadership in getting a fleet on the final days to cover the system for more then the us tz wasnt our fault. The contract was over when remidial decided to pull out. We went to geminate you went to syndicate and had fun with dbp. As for the south again Remidial promised us the plex instead of isk which goons and co was always low on. The fact that we even did contracts on faith and future considerations is clearly enough for its self. But spin it how you want, we all know how it went down and i dont care, seeing as when bob came from the north to lay claim to period basis it was smash and rubra and other ex fa corps fighting for tpar way before your goon swarm or Pl was even thought of. This is a joke right? ---
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 06:52:00 - [158] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Originally by: Peoke The fact that we went to cloud ring on contract as we did to norad. The fact that goon swarm was so broke that remidial told us to run the plex to pay for the contract. The fact that the amount we ran it coinsided with ever pos we reinforced. I clearly remeber goons only cap was remidials thanatos that was moving cruisers 24/7. In the final days a goon revalation. The fact that the siege was cancelled because of your failed leadership in getting a fleet on the final days to cover the system for more then the us tz wasnt our fault. The contract was over when remidial decided to pull out. We went to geminate you went to syndicate and had fun with dbp. As for the south again Remidial promised us the plex instead of isk which goons and co was always low on. The fact that we even did contracts on faith and future considerations is clearly enough for its self. But spin it how you want, we all know how it went down and i dont care, seeing as when bob came from the north to lay claim to period basis it was smash and rubra and other ex fa corps fighting for tpar way before your goon swarm or Pl was even thought of. This is a joke right? calm down. I driks lots [/URL]
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.04 07:17:00 - [159] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Because Geminate is a terrible region, they only hold terrible space, pick on people that are terrible, and the people that hate them the most are busy elsewhere. I'm not terribly impressed that they can pick on a few drone region entities and then claim to be PvPers. All they have ever done is leech off of other people's work (going all the way back to Cloudring), spam towers, and lose fleets to corporations and alliances I didn't know existed prior to their "we just owed smashkill* a hundred ways from sunday" after action threads. See this is what I mean exactly. I read things like these on the forums constantly about smashkill. But I see alot of things on the forums, most have no representation of reality what so ever. There have been enough people who attacked smashkill now to where "we didn't want that region anyways" no longer explains them being there. As far as them only "leeching off of other people's work", that's a tuff sell imo considering they are the first and second biggest alliances that do not have coalition protection. Originally by: Dungar Loghoth I can appreciate your optimistic attitude Persh, but I know the first thing a number of alliances are going to do after BoB is dead is go give Geminate the enema that it's been long over-due for. You could be right. I'm just saying I'll believe it when I see it. Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Still don't believe me? There a ton of videos out there by Cosmic Fusion, INFOD, Cult of War, and a few, lesser-known corporations that show Smashkill getting killed in ways I never thought possible. I don't think it's a big secret that a decent smaller entity can attack a larger one and get a super nice K/L ratio. I hope you're not mistaking me for just one of smashkill's friends backing them up. This is very far from the case. I've just seen verious alliances being praised or smacked on the forums because they are liked/not liked. Usually has nothing to do with how skilled they are.
Maj'k Lootar Trinity Corp	Posted - 2008.02.04 11:38:00 - [160] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Because Geminate is a terrible region, they only hold terrible space, pick on people that are terrible, and the people that hate them the most are busy elsewhere. I'm not terribly impressed that they can pick on a few drone region entities and then claim to be PvPers. All they have ever done is leech off of other people's work (going all the way back to Cloudring), spam towers, and lose fleets to corporations and alliances I didn't know existed prior to their "we just owed smashkill* a hundred ways from sunday" after action threads. See this is what I mean exactly. I read things like these on the forums constantly about smashkill. But I see alot of things on the forums, most have no representation of reality what so ever. There have been enough people who attacked smashkill now to where "we didn't want that region anyways" no longer explains them being there. As far as them only "leeching off of other people's work", that's a tuff sell imo considering they are the first and second biggest alliances that do not have coalition protection. Originally by: Dungar Loghoth I can appreciate your optimistic attitude Persh, but I know the first thing a number of alliances are going to do after BoB is dead is go give Geminate the enema that it's been long over-due for. You could be right. I'm just saying I'll believe it when I see it. Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Still don't believe me? There a ton of videos out there by Cosmic Fusion, INFOD, Cult of War, and a few, lesser-known corporations that show Smashkill getting killed in ways I never thought possible. I don't think it's a big secret that a decent smaller entity can attack a larger one and get a super nice K/L ratio. I hope you're not mistaking me for just one of smashkill's friends backing them up. This is very far from the case. I've just seen verious alliances being praised or smacked on the forums because they are liked/not liked. Usually has nothing to do with how skilled they are. it is too hard for me to hate this new sense making persh. <3 j0o
dev urandom	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:04:00 - [161] I believe Concord always has been the #1 military power and will continue to be. First off they have an impressive KD ratio. Sure they've lost some ships but they've killed plenty more. It's not like they only go after random easy pickings, they go after everyone that ****es em off. That takes balls. Concord protects its land with precision. Few people can say they survived a Concord assault. Concord even has the devs on their side. If you can beat Concord (tank them for more than 30 min) You get banned. Try winning against that. How much space has Concord lost so far? Concord is so good people don't even bother fighting them other than small scale suicide attacks. Nobody has ever confirmed the number strength of Concord yet either. For all we know the population of Concord could be infinitely greater than the entire population of Eve.
KeratinBoy GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:09:00 - [162] Jovians. Just wait and see.
fudge Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:09:00 - [163] Originally by: dev urandom I believe Concord always has been the #1 military power and will continue to be. First off they have an impressive KD ratio. Sure they've lost some ships but they've killed plenty more. It's not like they only go after random easy pickings, they go after everyone that ****es em off. That takes balls. Concord protects its land with precision. Few people can say they survived a Concord assault. Concord even has the devs on their side. If you can beat Concord (tank them for more than 30 min) You get banned. Try winning against that. How much space has Concord lost so far? Concord is so good people don't even bother fighting them other than small scale suicide attacks. Nobody has ever confirmed the number strength of Concord yet either. For all we know the population of Concord could be infinitely greater than the entire population of Eve. Those lamers do nothing but logontraps tbh!
WaiKin Beldar 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:09:00 - [164] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Smashkill is going to die. Heres a timeline for you BoB gets removed -> Everyone gang bangs KOS for lulz -> Standings reset -> Smashkill must die Being useless to the coalition and going home after about 3 weeks in fountain + being ******s on the forums day in day out + peoke.. what a douche.. Roadkill/CI is fine, smash/atlas are going to get them killed. Ladies & gentlemen, From time to time, strategy geniuses appear in front of us, enlightening us with their mastery knwoledge of the Universe. We, the simple-minded, welcome and thank such a present for us. PS: CCP please ban posting with alters
WaiKin Beldar 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:24:00 - [165] Edited by: WaiKin Beldar on 04/02/2008 13:25:44 Originally by: Master Arrow There will not be a single alliance powerhouse in EVE. EVE has evolved to the point that for an entity to exist and continue to exist, you need money, allies, territory, leadership, industry, and willing members. ..... ..... The biggest question in all of EVE is, can you be diplomatic, the fall of BoB is due to their diplomatic failures. They turned thier backs on thier allies that fought and died to aid them and they basically declared war on everyone else in EVE. In my opinion there will not be a single alliance that is the superior powerhouse...the game has evolved to be about coalitions, and the strength of the relationship between allies. I did not mention SMASHKILL, AAA and others that deserved mentioning. They are strong entities that deserve props for thier achievements and abilities. I am just trying to state the fact that diplomacy is the true powerhouse. It is the major factor in war in real life, and will remain a major factor in EVE's evolution of power. /signed
goazer Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 22:22:00 - [166] say what you want about smashkill but they arent losing signifigant caps to bob no our cap ships numbers grow while your dwindle. How high of a cost will you pay to finish off bob?
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 23:10:00 - [167] Originally by: pershphanie question for all you smashkill haters: If smashkill suck so bad, how do they start so much ** making enemies with everyone in eve while not ever really losing anything big? The only alliances outside of them that get away with the kind of crap they pull have coalition protection. Yet Smashkill do not. They start crap with bob and rsf alike as well as anyone else in proximity. Them being alive with the ammount of ** starting muppets they have is proof that they are not as bad as people claim they are. Maybe people just don't care about the things we do, apart from RA throwing a fit whenever we step on their toes i can't remember anyone making a big deal out of coming to get revenge. It should be pretty easy, smash can't do anything without roadkill, and roadkill sucks too right? We'll see what happens, but i don't think smashkill will ever be a major power, we are too softcore for that. Nanovirate keeps culling our carebear herds ________________________________________________ Currently training for "caldari overlord I" Thank you ccp!
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.05 02:57:00 - [168] Originally by: goazer say what you want about smashkill but they arent losing signifigant caps to bob no our cap ships numbers grow while your dwindle. How high of a cost will you pay to finish off bob? smash lost liek 5 dreads or something in y-2. and caps are cheap.
Lord Fitz Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.05 15:27:00 - [169] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth This is a joke right? Wow, for someone that posts alot you know quite little. Keep posting, those of us still in touch with reality will keep on laughing.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:06:00 - [170] Originally by: Lord Fitz Originally by: Dungar Loghoth This is a joke right? Wow, for someone that posts alot you know quite little. Keep posting, those of us still in touch with reality will keep on laughing. He's right though, and when SMASH get their **** kicked in you're gonna be sitting there thinking to yourself "oh my god, that moron dungar was right, we are a worthless talentless sack of crap alliance that is only good for leeching over other alliances"
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:08:00 - [171] Originally by: fudge Originally by: dev urandom I believe Concord always has been the #1 military power and will continue to be. First off they have an impressive KD ratio. Sure they've lost some ships but they've killed plenty more. It's not like they only go after random easy pickings, they go after everyone that ****es em off. That takes balls. Concord protects its land with precision. Few people can say they survived a Concord assault. Concord even has the devs on their side. If you can beat Concord (tank them for more than 30 min) You get banned. Try winning against that. How much space has Concord lost so far? Concord is so good people don't even bother fighting them other than small scale suicide attacks. Nobody has ever confirmed the number strength of Concord yet either. For all we know the population of Concord could be infinitely greater than the entire population of Eve. Those lamers do nothing but logontraps tbh! +1 for Concord. No one can take them. RA, BoB, SMASHKILL or whatever don¦t hold a candle against the Concord force... Plus, they¦ve always been honest to their neutral position since their very start, and don¦t adhere to anyone's political party, as many others should have done...
RaV1N Caldari The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:10:00 - [172] What an interesting thread, I think your have your answer from the guys talking about power blocs and diplomacy as far as political reach, military might and resources base goes. As of now that would be RSF, without a doubt but once BOB dies or someone else comes along who knows. It's part of what makes this game great, it's not the amount of members in one alliance or how long they have been playing. It doesn't matter how many plexes you can run or belts you can mine, what does matter is how you get your fellow gamers to work towards a single goal and how you achieve that goal.
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:20:00 - [173] Originally by: Stahlregen He's right though, and when SMASH get their **** kicked in you're gonna be sitting there thinking to yourself "oh my god, that moron dungar was right, we are a worthless talentless sack of crap alliance that is only good for leeching over other alliances" says the goon. you get +20 irony for this poast.
Stahlregen GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.05 16:33:00 - [174] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Stahlregen He's right though, and when SMASH get their **** kicked in you're gonna be sitting there thinking to yourself "oh my god, that moron dungar was right, we are a worthless talentless sack of crap alliance that is only good for leeching over other alliances" says the goon. you get +20 irony for this poast. oh right, and what exactly has DeAdLy AdDictiOn (alternating caps added for non-ironic emphasis) done that would give them any clue as to the first hand downfall of alliances?
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:05:00 - [175] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Stahlregen He's right though, and when SMASH get their **** kicked in you're gonna be sitting there thinking to yourself "oh my god, that moron dungar was right, we are a worthless talentless sack of crap alliance that is only good for leeching over other alliances" says the goon. you get +20 irony for this poast. oh right, and what exactly has DeAdLy AdDictiOn (alternating caps added for non-ironic emphasis) done that would give them any clue as to the first hand downfall of alliances? i've taken part in the downfall of quite a few alliance thx. including smash once actually. /remembers how sweet it was to listen to emperor on burn eden TS beg me to let him keep a station. mmmmmmmmmmmmm
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:09:00 - [176] Originally by: Stahlregen Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Stahlregen He's right though, and when SMASH get their **** kicked in you're gonna be sitting there thinking to yourself "oh my god, that moron dungar was right, we are a worthless talentless sack of crap alliance that is only good for leeching over other alliances" says the goon. you get +20 irony for this poast. oh right, and what exactly has DeAdLy AdDictiOn (alternating caps added for non-ironic emphasis) done that would give them any clue as to the first hand downfall of alliances? Do you have any idea how many failed alliances Persh has lead/been in? She could give Tolon a run for his money. Also Persh I'm a goon as well so I'd like some +irony on my +3 sword of chutney please ---
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:16:00 - [177] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Do you have any idea how many failed alliances Persh has lead/been in? She could give Tolon a run for his money. 1?
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:23:00 - [178] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 05/02/2008 17:23:34 Originally by: Lord Fitz Originally by: Dungar Loghoth This is a joke right? Wow, for someone that posts alot you know quite little. Keep posting, those of us still in touch with reality will keep on laughing. Maybe you could explain the parts where I'm wrong? According to your own killboard, this week you are 75 ships killed for 77 ships lost. Week four you were 6.1b damage inflicted for 6.5b damage taken. Week two you barely broke even. Week one you were in the red again. Tell me what's suppose to impress me about SMASH. Week 52: 7.6b damage delt to 10.4 damage taken Week 51: 399 Ships killed (8877.32M ISK)290 Ships lost (30597.81M ISK) Week 50: 158 Ships killed (2836.48M ISK)143 Ships lost (2509.34M ISK) I don't even see a power-block, I see a bunch of terrible PvPers calling themselves a PvP alliance suckling the teet of R0adkill. ---
pershphanie Deadly Addiction	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:29:00 - [179] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe you could explain the parts where I'm wrong? According to your own killboard, this week you are 75 ships killed for 77 ships lost. Week four you were 6.1b damage inflicted for 6.5b damage taken. Week two you barely broke even. Week one you were in the red again. Tell me what's suppose to impress me about SMASH. Week 52: 7.6b damage delt to 10.4 damage taken Week 51: 399 Ships killed (8877.32M ISK)290 Ships lost (30597.81M ISK) Week 50: 158 Ships killed (2836.48M ISK)143 Ships lost (2509.34M ISK) I don't even see a power-block, I see a bunch of terrible PvPers calling themselves a PvP alliance suckling the teet of R0adkill. So following that logic your coalition are all terrible pvpers and bob are kicking your asses right?
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.05 17:41:00 - [180] stat monkeys love killboards. Too bad thay arent always indicative of an alliances ability to take or hold space. _______________________

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