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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 19:52:32
Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 19:49:12
I say it will be Smashkill.
Why?
Because they have a culture that will attract a large force, they have proven they can survive serious downturns and losing space, they learn from their mistakes, and they are a coalition force so they understand politics.
Why not RA? Because they are old. They will lose their best players through attrition and their force will be hollowed out over time. RA has already peaked in terms of their player base and are increasingly reliant on cap ships because of their lack of numbers.
Why not Goons? Strategic friction. Goons hold too much space, and have too many neighbors compared to their military power, and they make enemies too easily because of the constant chafing with everyone. This will lead to Goons always being under threat from multiple fronts. Over time this will force a certain kind of defensiveness.
Why not Tri? Because they think too highly of themselves and are over confident. This will lead them to get into fights they can't win, and when they lose there is a much greater chance of failure cascade because of their expectations for victory.
*edit - I forgot BoB
Why not BoB? Basically they will constantly be under assault leaving them unable to wage offensive war.
*edit - time frame of 18 months
Opine as needed, but please, no whining.
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:46:00 -
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BoB ofcourse.
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GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:48:00 -
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Don't do drugs.
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Gafton
Viper Squad
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:50:00 -
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How long is the future? 6 months? 1 Year? 2 Years? 3+ Years? Dumb question due to the uncertainty of the eve universe. Nothing lasts forever in eve.
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Thania Veracruz
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Posted - 2008.02.01 19:50:00 -
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-3- of course.
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aadom
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:03:00 -
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Depends what you classify as "military"
A large capital ship fleet?
A huge base of [skilled]members?
The ability to fund & replace the costs of war?
And an effective leadership?
All your listed alliances have these to an extent, but its how they go together continoulsy over time that will effect their future "military" power.
I honestly dont think Smashkill will be a "great military power" in 18months. I think their dug in tight, and can defend themselves aswell as the next. But as for their offensive capabilities, i dont think they can develop anymore.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:08:00 -
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red alliance
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:09:00 -
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 Originally by: aadom
Depends what you classify as "military"
A large capital ship fleet?
A huge base of [skilled]members?
The ability to fund & replace the costs of war?
And an effective leadership?
All your listed alliances have these to an extent, but its how they go together continoulsy over time that will effect their future "military" power.
I honestly dont think Smashkill will be a "great military power" in 18months. I think their dug in tight, and can defend themselves aswell as the next. But as for their offensive capabilities, i dont think they can develop anymore.
Military power = power to crush your enemies. Who do you think will be number one then? Care t venture a guess?
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Louis Lane
Minmatar
Imperium Holding corp
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Louis Lane on 01/02/2008 20:09:53
who cares.
your just another 1 day wonder alt looking to start a flamewar.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:09:00 -
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see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Junkie Beverage
red alliance
Why them? You must have a reason?
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Rheinkraft
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:11:00 -
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^^ I would hazard a guess RA but would be nice to see someone like MM there.
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mi
Military power = power to crush your enemies. Who do you think will be number one then? Care t venture a guess?
but crushing your enemies on what terms? ability to conquer a system quickly, ability to win in large fleet combat, ability to win in smaller gang combat?
because honestly, each thing could arguably have a different "winner".
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aadom
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: aadom on 01/02/2008 20:16:48
RA have survied against all odds. In a similar situation bob are now in and they bounced back. Their just far to attached to their 10/10's lol. I would love to see anyone move them out of 0.0 as an entity.
- MM would be because their space is full of so many pos's nobody could be bothered to try and take their space, leaving MM to do what they like lol
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DiaBlo UK
North Siders
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
you may say that, but how do they come out on top in so many battles?
You have to admit... they know how to hold there space, and know how to take space they want....
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
but crushing your enemies on what terms? ability to conquer a system quickly, ability to win in large fleet combat, ability to win in smaller gang combat?
because honestly, each thing could arguably have a different "winner".
I would put it like this. Anyone in your way, you can remove them, in whole, or in part to achieve your ovjectives by blowing up everything they have. Persistent, durable and tenacious and able to wear down anyone over the long run, and overpowering in the short run. The criteria is part of the speculation.
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aadom
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:22:00 -
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But who wants Geminate? :) Nobody substantial has ever lived their in terms of a military power.
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phishstik
Gallente
North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
FANG calling rk/smash horrible pvp'rs. THE IRONY 
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: phishstik
Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
FANG calling rk/smash horrible pvp'rs. THE IRONY
They also said this
Originally by: DiaBlo UK
Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
you may say that, but how do they come out on top in so many battles?
You have to admit... they know how to hold there space, and know how to take space they want....
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:29:00 -
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Shashkill are never going to be any kind of power, this i promise you Re Mi............
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Re Mi
Caldari
Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Shashkill are never going to be any kind of power, this i promise you Re Mi............
What are the reasons for that?
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: DiaBlo UK
Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
you may say that, but how do they come out on top in so many battles?
You have to admit... they know how to hold there space, and know how to take space they want....
they got their space by losing everyday for around 2 months in tde, then decided to take the easy way out and win the war by dropping 35 large pos's in a single night.
they come out on top of battles because they dont fight anyone decent, and bring overwhelming numbers at the same time.
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Maitre Yoda
Viking Clan
Absolute Guardians Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:35:00 -
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Edited by: Maitre Yoda on 01/02/2008 20:36:24
Originally by: Re Mi
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth
Shashkill are never going to be any kind of power, this i promise you Re Mi............
What are the reasons for that?
Mostly because Smashkill suck, but also because they are alive just as long as they are useful to RA...
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Little Zandra
Minmatar
Funky Monkey Lovers
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:38:00 -
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i am going to say the bog blob will be the future powerhouse
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HEY LISTEN
i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 01/02/2008 20:47:31
As far as space holding is concerned it will be the alliance with the most members and the most naps so RAGOON will proly be the most numerous unless ccp change the game again.
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Krystian
Caldari
No Quarter.
Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:47:00 -
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The Army. Because they say I hunt and leave ok ? 20% not violence boat.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: fugazii
Originally by: DiaBlo UK
Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
you may say that, but how do they come out on top in so many battles?
You have to admit... they know how to hold there space, and know how to take space they want....
they got their space by losing everyday for around 2 months in tde, then decided to take the easy way out and win the war by dropping 35 large pos's in a single night.
they come out on top of battles because they dont fight anyone decent, and bring overwhelming numbers at the same time.
if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way
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fugazii
Deep Space Productions
Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: phishstik
Originally by: fugazii
see the problem here, is smash and rk are horrible pvp'rs.
FANG calling rk/smash horrible pvp'rs. THE IRONY
comparing personal killboards, i wouldnt be bragging all that much.
and fang isnt calling them horrible pvp'rs, i am.
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar
Cult of the Skulls
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Posted - 2008.02.01 20:56:00 -
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The next big nap-fest of course. The way of the future.
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Oofig VanDoogan
Foundation
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.01 21:03:00 -
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This topic is full of well-informed and completely unbiased posters!
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