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Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:19:00 - [61] this thread made me lol all over my nice new shirt. Anybody who thinks Smashkill will be a superpower doesnt understand smashkill. Anybody who thinks Smashkill will just get steamrolled after BoB becomes a moot point doesnt understand Smashkill. Anybody who thinks Smashkill wants to be a superpower and win Eve doesnt understand Smashkill. The 5th rule of fightclub is ... oh wait wrong speech. Dun really care who is the next military power, they come and they go. I just hope there is cake and beer at the going away party. _______________________
Dungar Loghoth Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:21:00 - [62] Originally by: Graalum Edited by: Graalum on 01/02/2008 23:01:55 Originally by: fugazii no dont get me wrong, it was a smart move. but dropping 35 towers in a single night to win a system after months of losing isnt exactly tell tale sign of a solid pvp force. my vote.: Until bob dissolve or have a major disturbance inside their alliance they will continue to be the best pvp alliance. They may not accomplish anything on space taking level due to naps on mass scale, but on a alliance vrs alliance scale they are hands down the best. Other mentions would be RA and AAA. Because smash and roadkill are the same alliances that they were 18 months ago. The fact that Peoke is still in charge means that nothing has changed worth mentioning. SMASH is a prime example of the old axiom, "**** rises to the top". You may very well have changed since my last dealings with you, but you're the same as every alliance out there. I only hope you guys put up a better fight than RISE did when we come knocking. ---
fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:24:00 - [63] Originally by: Dez Affinity fugazii, you're pretty bitter man, so you lost TDE to smashkill, no need to cry about it. If smashkill suck as much as you say and you lost it to them, then that's quite embarassing for you, no? Also it must pis s you off even more that you're now in an alliance that is a resident of smashkills space. no im not bitter, it was a well executed plan that worked perfectly. im not crying about it im just defending what ive said, and since people keep quoting me, i keep having to defend what i said. however more so i think its more embarrassing for you guys considering the only reason you have space is because you won it through pve and wasnt able to through pvp. and lastly,.. no it doesnt **** me off im in fang alliance, i havent played eve in a couple months and the corp im in is the corp i always join when im not playing. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:33:00 - [64] Originally by: umop 3pisdn Smashkill is going to die. Heres a timeline for you BoB gets removed -> Everyone gang bangs KOS for lulz -> Standings reset -> Smashkill must die Being useless to the coalition and going home after about 3 weeks in fountain + being ****s on the forums day in day out + peoke.. what a douche.. Roadkill/CI is fine, smash/atlas** are going to get them killed. I'm sorry to roadkill and Chaos for being their downfall (could you tell me more?) Peoke is best dude out there. Atleast he posts with his main. He may not speel good but hes heart is in the right place. Also i can confirm he has genetalia Smatlas vs Roadchaos? I driks lots [/URL]
HONDAMAN	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:43:00 - [65] Is very clear for me that the guys that are talking in this thread never fought against TRI ever.I personally fought with every major alliance in this game and i learn a single thing: YOU REALLY DONT WANT TO HAVE TRI PATROLING YOUR TERITORY. belive me i talking from the point of view of a pilot that fought against bob,ra,goons,aaa,tcf,smashkill,mm,rzr,d2,ascn,mc and others. like smashkill who are very brave on forums lear on theyr own skin, dont engage 20 tri if you dont have at least 50 people strong. if you ask me,in this game are 2 real pvp alliance. BOB and TRI.the others win by blob.You bothered to look on the major alliances killboards? clearly not. TRI is the only alliance in this game that is really pvp-ing.they have no friends and fight with everyone.for me this is a real alliance.when you say tri you think only to tri. when you say RA you think about goons and tcf, wnen you say MM you think about RZR,when you say roadkill you think about smash.when you say bob you thinking about bob. so as you see there are only 2 pvp alliance in this game: BOB and TRI. if you dont agree look on theyr killboards and then talk
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:44:00 - [66] Originally by: Re Mi Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 22:12:45 Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 21:50:53 Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 21:10:57 Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 20:15:15 Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 19:52:32 Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 19:49:12 I say it will be Smashkill. Why? Because they have a culture that will attract a large force, they have proven they can survive serious downturns and losing space, they learn from their mistakes, and they are a coalition force so they understand politics. Why not RA? Because they are old. They will lose their best players through attrition and their force will be hollowed out over time. RA has already peaked in terms of their player base and are increasingly reliant on cap ships because of their lack of numbers. Why not Goons? Strategic friction. Goons hold too much space, and have too many neighbors compared to their military power, and they make enemies too easily because of the constant chafing with everyone. This will lead to Goons always being under threat from multiple fronts. Over time this will force a certain kind of defensiveness. Why not Tri? Because they think too highly of themselves and are over confident. This will lead them to get into fights they can't win, and when they lose there is a much greater chance of failure cascade because of their expectations for victory. edit - I forgot BoB Why not BoB? Basically they will constantly be under assault leaving them unable to wage offensive war. edit - adding MM Why not MM? Because they can't seem to grow any more. I think they have hit their player limit for some reason. edit - adding Bruce Why not Bruce? I guess it never occurred to me. They always seemed to be a little bit pirate to me, and pirate alliances are unstable maybe. Definitely a growing power though. I would put Bruce as my second place TBH. edit - adding AAA by popular demand. Why not AAA? Because they want to stay a mobile, lean, fighting force without the fat and bloat of a large army. That and they don't seem the type to want to fuel POS. edit - adding Tortuga Why not Tortuga - Hmmm....I need to think about that one. I think they have some dimensions that are unknown to me so I can't really say. edit - time frame of 18 months Opine as needed, but please, no whining. I really like Smahkill and I had great fun while I was with them, but... ...No. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Larkin Acil CORE Technologies Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:47:00 - [67] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Junkie Beverage if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way 1 night of hard work is much easier than months of hard work. sigh wipe nights in ssc is boring You, sir, fail at Gaming. If you wipe in SSC, know nothing of the devotion put into this game and other games by people who have been farming BT and Hyjal for months. BoB will not be stopped. Anyone other than BoB is a terrible pilot.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo Ok. Smash/Kill. Heres my take. For the most part, they are pretty good guys. Peoke gets up a few peoples noses, but so do quite a few alliance leaders. The thing however with Smash/Kill is the advantages they do have, basically being able to beat the hell out of most mid sized alliances, isn't the same as the ability to go toe to toe with the biggest guys. And thats because the highest levels of end-game war are just not that fun. Its a lot of POS spamming/sieging/titan stupidity/supercaps-online sort of nonsense and it requires a particular type of mass psychosis I don't think they have. And I'll put them thus on a similar sort of ranking as Tri. Pretty good, but more interested in fun than controlling all of 0.0. And possibly lacking the stamina to do so. AAA are a different kettle of fish. Some sort of hybrid between Tri and RA. They DO seem to have the stamina to fight long boring POS wars, like RA. But I doubt they find it much fun. Heres my guess on it all however. If Tortuga pulls out of this scrap alive and kicking, and I think they will, they will be a power to watch. But all bets are off on how that one pans out. Heck no one finds it much fun, but its all a matter of priorities. This. Exactly this. Jane speaks the truth. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:53:00 - [69] Originally by: HONDAMAN Is very clear for me that the guys that are talking in this thread never fought against TRI ever. Its is very clear you are not in the know. _______________________
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:57:00 - [70] Originally by: Rheinkraft ^^ I would hazard a guess RA but would be nice to see someone like MM there. While we appreciate you thinking about us, I think my fellow alliance mates would agree with me that we have quite a lot of work to do before we could be considered in the vein being described by the OP. Personally, I believe we have the raw ingredients to become such a power, but it will take more practice and execution on the battlefield for us to realize our potential. In short, I think we have a long road to travel between where we are now and where we want to be. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli

fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:59:00 - [71] Originally by: Larkin Acil Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Junkie Beverage if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way 1 night of hard work is much easier than months of hard work. sigh wipe nights in ssc is boring You, sir, fail at Gaming. If you wipe in SSC, know nothing of the devotion put into this game and other games by people who have been farming BT and Hyjal for months. BoB will not be stopped. Anyone other than BoB is a terrible pilot. unfortunately no guild has ever stepped into ssc for the first time and cleared everything without a wipe, thus by default you not only fail at posting, but at gaming as well. but keep trying though, one day with hard work, years of practice and training coupled with an unimaginable amount of determination you might.. just might not be so utterly consumed with everything that is fail. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
HONDAMAN Caldari Demonic Corp	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:59:00 - [72] Its is very clear you are not in the know. I dont understand why are you talking about smashkill I thought we are talking about the best pvp alliance If you ask me smashkill are 2 alliances Lets talk about the best alliance in the game not about blobs And as i said there are 2 pvp alliances: BOB and TRI
Ungdall Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:10:00 - [73] This is one of the greatest, and most vague, threads I have ever read. Anything connected to smash will not last past a certain part, that part being when their number on the list comes up.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:22:00 - [74] I vote state war academy
touchvill D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:27:00 - [75] I think there will not be a single entity super power, more a super power block, or powerblocks. Not much will change after bob go really. Except the powerblocks may fragment somewhat and start working on other entities. ---------- Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Mitnal
armas Gallente Dark Centuri Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:31:00 - [76] Edited by: armas on 02/02/2008 01:33:05 Bob aren't going to magically disappear. If they're forced out of delve there's going to be a fair few entities that will wish they had never been I'd imagine. On a side note, AAA have always given me the Heebie-jeebies more than any other alliance in game. Good pilots, good leadership, they'll continue to be a problem for sure. edited- never been good at english
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:35:00 - [77] Originally by: HONDAMAN I dont understand why are you talking about smashkill I thought we are talking about the best pvp alliance If you ask me smashkill are 2 alliances Lets talk about the best alliance in the game not about blobs And as i said there are 2 pvp alliances: BOB and TRI Im just sayin, i like Tri and they have a lot of real solid pvpers that they send to visit us. However I don't think they are the ultimate force you make them out to be. _______________________
Porgy Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:37:00 - [78] Originally by: Porgy Originally by: HONDAMAN I dont understand why are you talking about smashkill I thought we are talking about the best pvp alliance If you ask me smashkill are 2 alliances Lets talk about the best alliance in the game not about blobs And as i said there are 2 pvp alliances: BOB and TRI Im just sayin, i like Tri and they have a lot of real solid pvpers that they send to visit us, fairly frequently these days. However I don't think they are the ultimate force you make them out to be. _______________________
FireAnt Caldari Wings of the Storm	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:56:00 - [79] you are in smash or never have fought them. talk all you like bob are dead, even without delve, they are the strongest alliance. no one would dare try to go 1 on 1 vs them. maybe 1 vs 20.
William DeMeo Gallente the united Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.02 01:59:00 - [80] Edited by: William DeMeo on 02/02/2008 01:59:10 Band of Brothers. Yarr

Peoke Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 02:11:00 - [81] wow al this love. to bad dungar your made that i tell it how it is and we dont bow to no one or no ones rep. sad part is you ran to PL, and just spout crap for shamis work. as for me being at the top sad part is if its so bad why we still here. why has smash outlived every alliance that was fighting fix when bob said we are dead. why do i even have a alliance to lead if i suck so much. last time i checked what do you and your mouth lead.
fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 02:26:00 - [82] Originally by: Peoke wow al this love. to bad dungar your made that i tell it how it is and we dont bow to no one or no ones rep. sad part is you ran to PL, and just spout crap for shamis work. as for me being at the top sad part is if its so bad why we still here. why has smash outlived every alliance that was fighting fix when bob said we are dead. why do i even have a alliance to lead if i suck so much. last time i checked what do you and your mouth lead. selene said it best, geminate is the ghetto of eve, thats why. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Atomos Aposoo Damage Incorporated.	Posted - 2008.02.02 02:44:00 - [83] IAC. Once ambulation hits, once an attacking force comes to IAC space, they're immediately drawn the bars. Once they get hammered enough they forgot why they even came there and then they just throw them in the gutter. Also the drunks start to come out in the hundreds when JZV/F4 get threatened. It'd take a minor god to capture JZV.
Peanut Swsh Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 03:01:00 - [84] Edited by: Peanut Swsh on 02/02/2008 03:03:49 lol @ op. hi guyz, posting from and internet spaceship military superpower here, how's your day going? Originally by: fugazii selene said it best, geminate is the ghetto of eve, thats why. aren't Fang, Smash renters or something?
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.02 03:18:00 - [85] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Peoke wow al this love. to bad dungar your made that i tell it how it is and we dont bow to no one or no ones rep. sad part is you ran to PL, and just spout crap for shamis work. as for me being at the top sad part is if its so bad why we still here. why has smash outlived every alliance that was fighting fix when bob said we are dead. why do i even have a alliance to lead if i suck so much. last time i checked what do you and your mouth lead. selene said it best, geminate is the ghetto of eve, thats why. you realize that we own two other regions right? People need to realize that you can't kill smash, they are Undead. If eve had silver daggers and garlic like wow or something maybe, but this is eve.
TroNaaR Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 03:52:00 - [86] Originally by: Peoke wow al this love. to bad dungar your made that i tell it how it is and we dont bow to no one or no ones rep. sad part is you ran to PL, and just spout crap for shamis work. as for me being at the top sad part is if its so bad why we still here. why has smash outlived every alliance that was fighting fix when bob said we are dead. why do i even have a alliance to lead if i suck so much. last time i checked what do you and your mouth lead. Peoke will win eve cause he rocks and doesnt afraid of anything. <3
Jangizal Caldari Deathwatch Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.02 03:55:00 - [87] Originally by: Re Mi Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 22:12:45 Because they have a culture that will attract a large force, they have proven they can survive serious downturns and losing space, they learn from their mistakes, They do ? You're sure about this ? Did this happen overnight ? Blog.
Merrin Rohr	Posted - 2008.02.02 04:09:00 - [88] I'm thinking that considering what has happened to the last few "greatest military powers in EvE" that no one would probably want that title. I'm not going to name names, but looking at the alliance rankings, there are clearly some alliances that many of you in all your uber arrogance have forgotten. Because, ultimately, isn't number of pilots the number one contributor to military power? Ask the "real" RA, or the goons for that matter. HL
Altar Mei Solstice Systems Development Concourse The Reckoning.	Posted - 2008.02.02 04:17:00 - [89] Originally by: FireAnt you are in smash or never have fought them. talk all you like bob are dead, even without delve, they are the strongest alliance. no one would dare try to go 1 on 1 vs them. maybe 1 vs 20. If bob are indeed removed form their space do really see any situation were they won't get immediately gang banged again? I just don't see them be able to do anything meaningful under the bob banner.
DHB FooFighter Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.02.02 04:34:00 - [90] Originally by: Peoke wow al this love. to bad dungar your made that i tell it how it is and we dont bow to no one or no ones rep. sad part is you ran to PL, and just spout crap for shamis work. as for me being at the top sad part is if its so bad why we still here. why has smash outlived every alliance that was fighting fix when bob said we are dead. why do i even have a alliance to lead if i suck so much. last time i checked what do you and your mouth lead. Smash's success in fountain is really a sign of good things to come. honest. -------------------------------------------------



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