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fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:03:00 - [31] Originally by: Junkie Beverage if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way 1 night of hard work is much easier than months of hard work. sigh wipe nights in ssc is boring Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
EzSnake Celestial Pillagers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:05:00 - [32] As an ex- RK...I highly doubt it will be kill-smash (like the way I put that).
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:07:00 - [33] Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Junkie Beverage if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way 1 night of hard work is much easier than months of hard work. sigh wipe nights in ssc is boring Ok, so let me get this straight, it is better to fight for months to take a system than it is to take it in on night? Anyway, you aren't proposing an alternative. If they aren't going to be the number one contender, than who is? Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:09:00 - [34] Originally by: EzSnake As an ex- RK...I highly doubt it will be kill-smash (like the way I put that). I forgot Bruce... Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:10:00 - [35] lol smashkill. on barrowed time ________________________________________________ Currently training for "caldari overlord I" Thank you ccp!
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:22:00 - [36] Originally by: Tasuric Orka lol smashkill. on barrowed time qft I'd say AAA or Tri. 2isk
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:26:00 - [37] Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn Originally by: Tasuric Orka lol smashkill. on barrowed time qft I'd say AAA or Tri. I am curious why you pick AAA? Seems to me they wouldn't have the ambition to take that spot. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
fugazii Deep Space Productions Fang Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:29:00 - [38] Originally by: Re Mi Originally by: fugazii Originally by: Junkie Beverage if you have ever set up a pos you would know that doing it 35 times is not the easy way 1 night of hard work is much easier than months of hard work. sigh wipe nights in ssc is boring Ok, so let me get this straight, it is better to fight for months to take a system than it is to take it in on night? Anyway, you aren't proposing an alternative. If they aren't going to be the number one contender, than who is? no dont get me wrong, it was a smart move. but dropping 35 towers in a single night to win a system after months of losing isnt exactly tell tale sign of a solid pvp force. my vote.: Until bob dissolve or have a major disturbance inside their alliance they will continue to be the best pvp alliance. They may not accomplish anything on space taking level due to naps on mass scale, but on a alliance vrs alliance scale they are hands down the best. Other mentions would be RA and AAA. Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Viktor Konstantine GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:31:00 - [39] heh, a "military" thread without -A- mentioned in the the first post. They don't need "ambition" to be in the top spot, the simple fact of the matter is that they will kill you, *****the remains, then throw what's left in the burner to fuel future conquests. You must get a lot of insight into 0.0 politics in Funshine Unlimited, they clearly must be an authority.
scabbsssjr Gallente M'8'S Frontal Impact	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:32:00 - [40] Curse alliance- Why? They just keeping dieing and rising from the grave, kinda like the venture brothers.

Glenda Giggles Red Ballz	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:36:00 - [41] I think most know that EVE 0.0 will not be dominated by any single group of Alliance post the fall of Delve. But if I had to think about who will be the one Military force you dont want to **** off then it would be AAA .
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:44:00 - [42] Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 21:45:47 Originally by: Viktor Konstantine heh, a "military" thread without -A- mentioned in the the first post. They don't need "ambition" to be in the top spot, the simple fact of the matter is that they will kill you, *****the remains, then throw what's left in the burner to fuel future conquests. You must get a lot of insight into 0.0 politics in Funshine Unlimited, they clearly must be an authority. I guess I see AAA as a local power. They don't seem to involve themselves with people far away, or want huge amounts of space. If they did, they would be adding the regions on BoB's doorstep to their space, but they aren't. Anyway, I am projecting into the future about who will be the largest power. I don't see AAA growing to be an equal to the BoB of 6 months ago or RA now (who I would currently place as the number one power), even though ppl say AAA are very powerful. What I find interesting is that in the past powers have come and gone, and that often the future power base is a completely unexpected player. Do you really believe that AAA is going to be the number one military power in EvE? They will be powerful, but I doubt number one. And as I posted earlier, I don't think they want to be that. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:49:00 - [43] I don't think its sensible to tease apart RA & the Goons. There is almost no probability of those 2 ending up on different sides. The strategic partnership is too entangled to tease apart, alongside the friendships. ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
Aya Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:52:00 - [44] I dont see why your so stuck on Smashkill. Yes they have good pilots and a lot of good guys with some good allies to back them up. Bottom line is the Peoke lacks something between his legs that should be there and I dont see them making a move on space because of this. AAA is probably the most powerful 0.0 Entity atm but I'm not really sure how interested they are in space. They seem to have fun killing people just like Tri does. Not everyone is in love with laggy POS wars. RA seem less and less interest in the "Great War" and wanting to do their own thing. Im sure after 2 years of POS war they will probably reside to a quieter life for the time being. Bottom line is I dont see any new great "SUPERPOWER" most of the alliances cba to go on some super dominance of the universe, especially right after one ends. But hey I dont know any of these alliances on their core, maybe I'm wrong. Id expect that after the years of all the back and forth POS war most people will want a long long break from any kind of super war, might just see small conflicts and struggles over constilations.
Carin K Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:55:00 - [45] Whatever alliance it is, its got to be an old and refined one that has been through bad times and recovered, its gotta hold space but not care too much about it, its gotta not take the game to srsly or chest beat to much, its gotta have a leader who doesnt care if he loses members because he will only lose the weak ones and the strong will stay by his side, its gotta be one with a leader who enjoys playing eve. ____-____
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.01 21:59:00 - [46] fugazii, you're pretty bitter man, so you lost TDE to smashkill, no need to cry about it. If smashkill suck as much as you say and you lost it to them, then that's quite embarassing for you, no? Also it must pis s you off even more that you're now in an alliance that is a resident of smashkills space. _______________
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:00:00 - [47] Ok. Smash/Kill. Heres my take. For the most part, they are pretty good guys. Peoke gets up a few peoples noses, but so do quite a few alliance leaders. The thing however with Smash/Kill is the advantages they do have, basically being able to beat the hell out of most mid sized alliances, isn't the same as the ability to go toe to toe with the biggest guys. And thats because the highest levels of end-game war are just not that fun. Its a lot of POS spamming/sieging/titan stupidity/supercaps-online sort of nonsense and it requires a particular type of mass psychosis I don't think they have. And I'll put them thus on a similar sort of ranking as Tri. Pretty good, but more interested in fun than controlling all of 0.0. And possibly lacking the stamina to do so. AAA are a different kettle of fish. Some sort of hybrid between Tri and RA. They DO seem to have the stamina to fight long boring POS wars, like RA. But I doubt they find it much fun. Heres my guess on it all however. If Tortuga pulls out of this scrap alive and kicking, and I think they will, they will be a power to watch. But all bets are off on how that one pans out. Heck no one finds it much fun, but its all a matter of priorities. ______ Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:00:00 - [48] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo I don't think its sensible to tease apart RA & the Goons. There is almost no probability of those 2 ending up on different sides. The strategic partnership is too entangled to tease apart, alongside the friendships. There is a strategic cleavage point. The Goons will use their power to kick a lot of ppl around. This will start a lot of small wars that RA may not want to bother with. And many small wars can join into one big one. I don't see them still being allied in 18 months, the law of averages will catch up with them. This is what I mean by strategic friction. There will be a constant hum of omnipresent aggression that will sap Goon resources and cause their allies to step back. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Re Mi Caldari Funshine Unlimited	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:10:00 - [49] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo Ok. Smash/Kill. Heres my take. For the most part, they are pretty good guys. Peoke gets up a few peoples noses, but so do quite a few alliance leaders. The thing however with Smash/Kill is the advantages they do have, basically being able to beat the hell out of most mid sized alliances, isn't the same as the ability to go toe to toe with the biggest guys. And thats because the highest levels of end-game war are just not that fun. Its a lot of POS spamming/sieging/titan stupidity/supercaps-online sort of nonsense and it requires a particular type of mass psychosis I don't think they have. And I'll put them thus on a similar sort of ranking as Tri. Pretty good, but more interested in fun than controlling all of 0.0. And possibly lacking the stamina to do so. AAA are a different kettle of fish. Some sort of hybrid between Tri and RA. They DO seem to have the stamina to fight long boring POS wars, like RA. But I doubt they find it much fun. Heres my guess on it all however. If Tortuga pulls out of this scrap alive and kicking, and I think they will, they will be a power to watch. But all bets are off on how that one pans out. Heck no one finds it much fun, but its all a matter of priorities. Good points. Tortuga deserves consideration too. Interesting perspective on the differences between the alliances. Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation
Koi Yokuma Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:39:00 - [50] Sparta?

Royaldo Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:44:00 - [51] i kinda hoped insurgency would become huge. purely based on the fact that they love sheep and were the good guys when i joined eve.
Jacinta Bracken Total Mayhem.	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:45:00 - [52] Pretty vague opening question 'who will be the future number one military in Eve?' The answer depends entirely on how you interpret the question. If you mean 'who is most likely to be the most militarily powerful single alliance in a few months time?' Then the answer is the same as it is now: BoB If you mean 'who is most likely to be the most powerful bloc in a few months time?' Then the answer is the same as it is now: RSF If you mean 'who will have the highest proportion of highly skilled pilots in a few months time?' then the answer is the same as it is now: BoB, MC, -A-, Tri etc If you mean 'who has the most potential to conquer territory over the next few months?' Then I suppose the answer could be SmashKill but there are other groups who could do equally as well.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:48:00 - [53] Edited by: Kaaii on 01/02/2008 22:53:20 Edited by: Kaaii on 01/02/2008 22:51:21 Originally by: Laura Baretta The next big nap-fest of course. The way of the future. Nice banner... we'll take it.....oh, wait According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.01 22:59:00 - [54] this thread is going to be funny.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:01:00 - [55] Edited by: Graalum on 01/02/2008 23:01:55 Originally by: fugazii no dont get me wrong, it was a smart move. but dropping 35 towers in a single night to win a system after months of losing isnt exactly tell tale sign of a solid pvp force. my vote.: Until bob dissolve or have a major disturbance inside their alliance they will continue to be the best pvp alliance. They may not accomplish anything on space taking level due to naps on mass scale, but on a alliance vrs alliance scale they are hands down the best. Other mentions would be RA and AAA. Because smash and roadkill are the same alliances that they were 18 months ago.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:06:00 - [56] The most powerful military in the future of Eve is probably one that doesn't exist yet. No matter what the prospects of existing alliances are, there will eventually be even newer alliances that show up on the scene that will change the dynamic. --- Join BH-DL Skills
Problematic one	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:08:00 - [57] Comeon guys, it's clearly going to be Eve Uni. They do the same kind of t1 suicide that goons do, but at 1/10th the cost.
Mistress Suffering Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:14:00 - [58] The comment about RA players getting bored with EVE is certainly a valid possibility, but I'm still putting my bet on them as the long-term superpower. They continue to invest in their own strength and continue to increase their network of vassals. I'd definitely put my bet there and not with RK, who although they may stick around, haven't shown the capacity for serious dominance. I think they're here to stay, but not here to rule. RA on the other hand...
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.02.01 23:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Re Mi Edited by: Re Mi on 01/02/2008 22:12:45 I say it will be Smashkill. Why not RA? Because they are old. They will lose their best players through attrition and their force will be hollowed out over time. RA has already peaked in terms of their player base and are increasingly reliant on cap ships because of their lack of numbers. Why not Goons? Strategic friction. Goons hold too much space, and have too many neighbors compared to their military power, and they make enemies too easily because of the constant chafing with everyone. This will lead to Goons always being under threat from multiple fronts. Over time this will force a certain kind of defensiveness. Why not Tri? Because they think too highly of themselves and are over confident. This will lead them to get into fights they can't win, and when they lose there is a much greater chance of failure cascade because of their expectations for victory. edit - I forgot BoB Why not BoB? Basically they will constantly be under assault leaving them unable to wage offensive war. edit - adding MM Why not MM? Because they can't seem to grow any more. I think they have hit their player limit for some reason. edit - adding Bruce Why not Bruce? I guess it never occurred to me. They always seemed to be a little bit pirate to me, and pirate alliances are unstable maybe. Definitely a growing power though. I would put Bruce as my second place TBH. edit - adding AAA by popular demand. Why not AAA? Because they want to stay a mobile, lean, fighting force without the fat and bloat of a large army. That and they don't seem the type to want to fuel POS. edit - adding Tortuga Why not Tortuga - Hmmm....I need to think about that one. I think they have some dimensions that are unknown to me so I can't really say. edit - time frame of 18 months Opine as needed, but please, no whining. Smashkill is going to die. Heres a timeline for you BoB gets removed -> Everyone gang bangs KOS for lulz -> Standings reset -> Smashkill must die Being useless to the coalition and going home after about 3 weeks in fountain + being ******s on the forums day in day out + peoke.. what a douche.. Roadkill/CI is fine, smash/atlas are going to get them killed.
CARY Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 00:02:00 - [60] Edited by: CARY on 02/02/2008 00:03:32 I wonder the names of those that would have been on the list 1 , 2 or 3 years ago. Many are no longer around. Funny but I really don't see Smashkill as being the major leader because Smashkill have alot more enemies then you think that would love to kill them off. Plus they only been known to attack the weak. Not an elite military, medium to avg I would say, and NO FERGE was not a major power, just a big Alliance made up of Mini Corp which means they had no solid direction really. Smashkill has never set off in a major offensive against any major power. I can see them playing a role but never a super power of EVE. No disrespect to SmackhKill at all.



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