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Graphhh ai iz ninja	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:12:00 - [1] Can anyone relate to whats happening in "The Great War" ? Please refrain from "smart" answers , just info pls :D
Vile rat GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:16:00 - [2] Current system count 8-7 in BoB's favor since they tower spammed to save Sov. We've been goofing off fighting each other in small scale fleet battles for a few days and we're having a great time. That's really about it.
olzi Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:43:00 - [3] Originally by: Vile rat Current system count 8-7 in BoB's favor since they tower spammed to save Sov. 8-7 in Delve ?
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:45:00 - [4] Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:48:00 - [5] Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining NOT FAST ENOUGH AMIRITE?
going 2be	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:49:00 - [6] Edited by: going 2be on 02/02/2008 18:49:46
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 18:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Shinori Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining NOT FAST ENOUGH AMIRITE? NOT AT ALL TBFH Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:26:00 - [8] Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining You have only lost hundreds (300 ? 400 ?) poses, the direct or indirect control over 50ish stations. You have lost hundreds of billions of income per month from renting / stations / moonmining poses. You have also lost every single allies you had, as well as any diplomatical power (remember the time when people would beg to be "allied" to BoB ?) You have given up on attacking anything or anyone, you're stuck in cyno jammed system. You have already forgotten that at some point everyone feared to be invaded by BoB. You have also forgotten the time when BoB was flying better ships than anyone else in Eve now looking at the fitting you can't tell the difference between an average GS battleship and BoB battleship. You're right, BoB has not been "significantly weakened". There are no coalition troops in Delve either.
The Comatorium The Ghazi	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:30:00 - [9] Basically, This war is the greatest Grief revenge ever known in EVE. Goons fly around Fountain with shyte ships... BoB griefs them... Goons get **ed... They help TCF Against s**dly and Veritas Immortalis and blah blah... they help picking on industrial Alliances with TCF and RA's Cap fleets, Get some space... Some of em get cap ships... they get*y... Bob's always been*y... c-ocks collapse in a gigantic ** bash Capital blobs... here they are at the doorsteps of delve with a bunch of lube and no Condoms. "smart" question brings "smart" answers. ------------------------- Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, For you never know wich one will strike you in the back.
Archonon Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:32:00 - [10] They still have their K/D ratio ... since they stopped to post their looses.
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Tholarim NOT AT ALL TBFH lol. ya coalition is getting owned.
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Amerame You have given up on attacking anything or anyone, you're stuck in cyno jammed system. You have already forgotten that at some point everyone feared to be invaded by BoB. You have also forgotten the time when BoB was flying better ships than anyone else in Eve now looking at the fitting you can't tell the difference between an average GS battleship and BoB battleship. LOL, you whiners asked for a Nerf and you got one. Be happy that you can fly the same ships as them now. I believe BoB is defending against 20k peeps atm, might be a tad busy for a complete offensive. Are you sure your not upset that your not winning fast enough? Maybe you are really just questioning your resolve? You cryilition guys are never happy are you. Your getting your just deserts with all those regions, and BoB are killing your T2 fitted BS 10:1, yup you cryilition guys sure are winning. BoB is surely screwed. Have some fun, remember K/D ratio means nothing...amirite? sup?
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Post Man Pat And His Black And White Cat	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:57:00 - [14] So what you're saying is you need more people? Maybe we can recruit some people from WoW to bolster your numbers since eve doesn't have the numbers to kill bob itself, i hear they have a few million players, might get you another system or two. Postman Pat
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.02 19:59:00 - [15] I am so bored blowing up Bob's PoSes and getting awesome faction loot that I may just quit the game.
William DeMeo Gallente the united Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Digicomm Originally by: Amerame You have given up on attacking anything or anyone, you're stuck in cyno jammed system. You have already forgotten that at some point everyone feared to be invaded by BoB. You have also forgotten the time when BoB was flying better ships than anyone else in Eve now looking at the fitting you can't tell the difference between an average GS battleship and BoB battleship. LOL, you whiners asked for a Nerf and you got one. Be happy that you can fly the same ships as them now. I believe BoB is defending against 20k peeps atm, might be a tad busy for a complete offensive. Are you sure your not upset that your not winning fast enough? Maybe you are really just questioning your resolve? You cryilition guys are never happy are you. Your getting your just deserts with all those regions, and BoB are killing your T2 fitted BS 10:1, yup you cryilition guys sure are winning. BoB is surely screwed. Have some fun, remember K/D ratio means nothing...amirite? I ******* lol'd. Cryilition. awesome. Yarr
Eacham Graeme Caldari PsyCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:16:00 - [17] It's been fun, and I'm looking forward to having more fun. Tis why we play the game, no? [/url]
ExTrEmM OCL Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:22:00 - [18] Originally by: Archonon They still have their K/D ratio ... since they stopped to post their looses. i'll take that as a joke since u r a tcf
Liucinda Minmatar Expiation n Damnation	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:28:00 - [19] Edited by: Liucinda on 02/02/2008 20:33:14 BoB is tanking 80% of 0.0 EvE alliances now, and still not in structure !
Echo147 E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:39:00 - [20] Originally by: Digicomm I believe BoB is defending against 20k peeps atm... So the majority of EVE's online player base is attacking Delve - power to the Jita mission runners
Angor The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining You have only lost hundreds (300 ? 400 ?) poses, the direct or indirect control over 50ish stations. You have lost hundreds of billions of income per month from renting / stations / moonmining poses. You have also lost every single allies you had, as well as any diplomatical power (remember the time when people would beg to be "allied" to BoB ?) You have given up on attacking anything or anyone, you're stuck in cyno jammed system. You have already forgotten that at some point everyone feared to be invaded by BoB. You have also forgotten the time when BoB was flying better ships than anyone else in Eve now looking at the fitting you can't tell the difference between an average GS battleship and BoB battleship. You're right, BoB has not been "significantly weakened". There are no coalition troops in Delve either. ... and yet they still aint dead. If roles were reversed on any other alliance in eve right now the war would have been over months ago, u gota give bob some credit tbh. I'm glad they have a new way to stop themselves getting totally steamrolled by having enuf titans to defend cyno jammers... make em work for it :) But i always support the underdog. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:50:00 - [22] Originally by: Echo147 Originally by: Digicomm I believe BoB is defending against 20k peeps atm... So the majority of EVE's online player base is attacking Delve - power to the Jita mission runners 1/10th is usually thought of as a minority. Eve-Online: The Text Adventure
Idaeus Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:52:00 - [23] Originally by: Angor ... and yet they still aint dead. If roles were reversed on any other alliance in eve right now the war would have been over months ago, u gota give bob some credit tbh. I'm glad they have a new way to stop themselves getting totally steamrolled by having enuf titans to defend cyno jammers... make em work for it :) But i always support the underdog. Dunno. I mean, if you mean a total role reversal, where BoB was assaulting someone with the supercaps and cynojammed systems that BoB currently has I think they'd be just as hindered. It's a unique situation. People have assaulted cynojammed systems before. People have assaulted systems with Titan support before. Nobody has done a combination of the two (titan supported cynojammed system). Earned In Blood
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.02 20:54:00 - [24] Edited by: Malachon Draco on 02/02/2008 20:54:09 Originally by: Avon 1/10th is usually thought of as a minority. You don't have the right to whine/chestbeat about those odds when you let all your allies die.
Digicomm The Digital Communists	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:04:00 - [25] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. Ohhmeeega plz. I was being conservative and using pilots per corp. I have no clue what actual numbers are. But if you go by pilots per alliance its probably closer to 25k. ...and yes during BoB primetime they outweigh you by some but cryilition prime is probably 15:1. All RA has to do is adopt the same Tactic and put its your Titans in harms way. Which has happened is US TZ and not BoB prime time. Playing eve ping-pong makes the outcome much slower is all. You now see a valid taCtiC and will ofcourse adapt, like you did earlier this week. sup?
Angor The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:06:00 - [26] Edited by: Angor on 02/02/2008 21:13:25 Originally by: Idaeus Originally by: Angor ... and yet they still aint dead. If roles were reversed on any other alliance in eve right now the war would have been over months ago, u gota give bob some credit tbh. I'm glad they have a new way to stop themselves getting totally steamrolled by having enuf titans to defend cyno jammers... make em work for it :) But i always support the underdog. Dunno. I mean, if you mean a total role reversal, where BoB was assaulting someone with the supercaps and cynojammed systems that BoB currently has I think they'd be just as hindered. It's a unique situation. People have assaulted cynojammed systems before. People have assaulted systems with Titan support before. Nobody has done a combination of the two (titan supported cynojammed system). Yeah well i didnt mean just bob vs any other alliance, i meant a complete reversal, for example, bob+everybody vs RA or even MC, would even they last this long? All those titans really pay off i guess. Only way to defeat them now would be to attack multiple systems at the same time, with the number of coalition around delve, that should be possible. Instead of sending 270+ ppl to assault 1 system cough Y-2, split forces? Of course when bob is down to only 1 or 2 systems things might start getting really stalemate. I guess for now just trying to starve bob out of the delve-fortress seems the best option, hitting the money production i guess is working or you'd probably be seeing a titan a month from bobs sov 4 system(s). And as for RA, yes they no doubt did an amazing thing to come back from nothing but didnt they loose all their space before they came back to what they are today? Bob hasnt reached that stage yet. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Idaeus Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:11:00 - [27] Just toss in a couple of rotting cow carcases and we'll have us a proper siege. I have been playing entirely too much Medieval 2: TW lately. Earned In Blood
Skyblue Karjala Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:11:00 - [28] Still, member count of Bob Alliance is 2nd biggest. That tells something... Oh wait, it must that no one want ex-Bob members...
Myadra Amarr Cruoris Seraphim	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:14:00 - [29] Edited by: Myadra on 02/02/2008 21:15:10 Originally by: Skyblue Still, member count of Bob Alliance is 2nd biggest. That tells something... Oh wait, it must that no one want ex-Bob members... Did anyone read the original posters request.. threads seem to really derail fast on these forums and end up like this... Edit, changed to link CAOD forum threads..
Louis DelaBlanche Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:14:00 - [30] Originally by: Idaeus Just toss in a couple of rotting cow carcases and we'll have us a proper siege. I have been playing entirely too much Medieval 2: TW lately. Medieval: Total War 2 was a dissapointment C/D?
Robert0288 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:15:00 - [31] Edited by: Robert0288 on 02/02/2008 21:15:04 I wonder what would happen if bob included all their pos, pos guns, mods, and moon mining equipment into their K/D Nice Region... We never wanted it in the first place.
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Myadra Did anyone read the original posters request.. threads seem to really derail fast on these forums and end up like this... If you expected anything else, you're an idiot.
Idaeus Earned In Blood	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:17:00 - [33] Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche Originally by: Idaeus Just toss in a couple of rotting cow carcases and we'll have us a proper siege. I have been playing entirely too much Medieval 2: TW lately. Medieval: Total War 2 was a dissapointment C/D? Well, it isn't Rome but it's still entertaining. Partial C. Earned In Blood
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:18:00 - [34] Edited by: Omeega on 02/02/2008 21:20:58 Originally by: Digicomm Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. Ohhmeeega plz. I was being conservative and using pilots per corp. I have no clue what actual numbers are. But if you go by pilots per alliance its probably closer to 25k. ...and yes during BoB primetime they outweigh you by some but cryilition prime is probably 15:1. All RA has to do is adopt the same Tactic and put its your Titans in harms way. Which has happened is US TZ and not BoB prime time. Playing eve ping-pong makes the outcome much slower is all. You now see a valid taCtiC and will ofcourse adapt, like you did earlier this week. The capital "C" is a bug, when i play EVE through a tunnel, the small "c" don't want to show up :( If you're saying you have no clue about actual members why are you posting about totaly hypotetical things? RA has been used two of its multiple titans on the front, wich lead, each time, to the destruction of BOB fleets; in terms of harms you should update your intel, we're using them in non-cyno-jammed systems while BOB prefers to play the safe card and use them with the protection of their cynojammers (they're the defensers, that's what cynojammers are made for). I haven't yet seen a ballsy move from BOB, wich might be ok because of what written above. And I don't know why bobbits keep hammering they're fighting vs 90% of eve; 500max pilots online at the same time over a playerbase of 20k online players that's hardly 2.5%. Please, you're not heroes, those 500 people are not even on the same TS and fully Coordinated like a normal allianCe would be. But those 2.5% are sufficient to make the bob forum brigades come out on the forums, and even for Sirmolle to post about islands, great. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Scatim Helicon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:20:00 - [35] Originally by: Malachon Draco Edited by: Malachon Draco on 02/02/2008 20:54:09 Originally by: Avon 1/10th is usually thought of as a minority. You don't have the right to whine/chestbeat about those odds when you let all your allies die. They didn't want those allies anyway. -----------
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:21:00 - [36] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Malachon Draco Edited by: Malachon Draco on 02/02/2008 20:54:09 Originally by: Avon 1/10th is usually thought of as a minority. You don't have the right to whine/chestbeat about those odds when you let all your allies die. oh look the bitter brigade telling us what we can and cannot do, oh noes!!! When all arguments fail, go for the ad hominem. Good one .
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. Ohhmeeega plz. I was being conservative and using pilots per corp. I have no clue what actual numbers are. But if you go by pilots per alliance its probably closer to 25k. ...and yes during BoB primetime they outweigh you by some but cryilition prime is probably 15:1. All RA has to do is adopt the same Tactic and put its your Titans in harms way. Which has happened is US TZ and not BoB prime time. Playing eve ping-pong makes the outcome much slower is all. You now see a valid taCtiC and will ofcourse adapt, like you did earlier this week. The capital "C" is a bug, when i play EVE through a tunnel, the small "c" don't want to show up :( If you're saying you have no clue about actual members why are you posting about totaly hypotetical things? RA has been used two of its multiple titans on the front, wich lead, each time, to the destruction of BOB fleets; in terms of harms you should update your intel, we're using them in non-cyno-jammed systems while BOB prefers to play the safe card and use them with the protection of their cynojammers (they're the defensers, that's what cynojammers are made for). I haven't yet seen a ballsy move from BOB, wich might be ok because of what written above. And I don't know why bobbits keep hammering they're fighting vs 90% of eve; 500max pilots online at the same time over a playerbase of 20k online players that's hardly 2.5%. But those 2.5% are sufficient to make the bob forum brigades come out on the forums, and even for Sirmolle to post about islands, great. don't try to downplay your numbers omeega, you're better then that. You rotate pilots/alliances when they get battlefatigue. Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:25:00 - [38] Edited by: Tholarim on 02/02/2008 21:25:26 Originally by: Malachon Draco When all arguments fail, go for the ad hominem. Good one . lol the lynch mob here in caod never needed arguments in the last year, why start now? Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:27:00 - [39] Originally by: Tholarim lol the lynch mob here in caod never needed arguments in the last year, why start now? I thought part of your 'masterplan' as prophecied by SirMolle in the Old Testament was that you would provide all the arguments for your enemies, as you keep claiming you did with your arrogance. Stick with one story please, you're confusing the readers.
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:28:00 - [40] Originally by: Tholarim don't try to downplay your numbers omeega, you're better then that. You rotate pilots/alliances when they get battlefatigue. MM RZR IRON GS TCF RA All of them are not online at the same time thol, if that's what you Call battlefatigue, even if they were they wouldn't represent more than 1000 aCtive pvpers on your island, 500 max at the same time, that was my point. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Tholarim lol the lynch mob here in caod never needed arguments in the last year, why start now? I thought part of your 'masterplan' as prophecied by SirMolle in the Old Testament was that you would provide all the arguments for your enemies, as you keep claiming you did with your arrogance. Stick with one story please, you're confusing the readers. provide arguments? what the **** are you on about? Our plan consisted of providing them with incentive yes. Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:33:00 - [42] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Malachon Draco Originally by: Tholarim lol the lynch mob here in caod never needed arguments in the last year, why start now? I thought part of your 'masterplan' as prophecied by SirMolle in the Old Testament was that you would provide all the arguments for your enemies, as you keep claiming you did with your arrogance. Stick with one story please, you're confusing the readers. provide arguments? what the **** are you on about? Our plan consisted of providing them with incentive yes. Well, arguments, incentives, whats the difference? You claim you wanted to be attacked and you certainly acted like it, and people used that against you on the forums. Don't come here acting like you've been grossly mistreated on these forums when it was exactly what you could and should have expected considering your behaviour ingame and your behaviour on these very forums in the past.
Johnny Cage	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:33:00 - [43] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: Angor ... and yet they still aint dead. If roles were reversed on any other alliance in eve right now the war would have been over months ago, u gota give bob some credit tbh. I'm glad they have a new way to stop themselves getting totally steamrolled by having enuf titans to defend cyno jammers... make em work for it :) But i always support the underdog. RA fought, and won, against much worse odds, about 700 RA vs 10k LV+ V + ASCN + a ****ton of alliances now completely forgotten, but RA was playing to win. what I dislike (among other things) in BoB is that they are not playing to win, they are happy losing, making excuses of the overwhelming number in each and every post they make. You have been blessed with the holy power of ignorance my child! Now go! And keep your eyes closed!
Tholarim Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:33:00 - [44] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Tholarim don't try to downplay your numbers omeega, you're better then that. You rotate pilots/alliances when they get battlefatigue. MM RZR IRON GS TCF RA All of them are not online at the same time thol, if that's what you Call battlefatigue, even if they were they wouldn't represent more than 1000 aCtive pvpers on your island, 500 max at the same time, that was my point. The fact that your numbers are dwindling at the front doesn't diminish the fact that the pilots that are not showing up are still in the war vs bob. You count all the bob pilots, but not all the coalition pilots, is my point. Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
Johnny Cage	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:37:00 - [45] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Tholarim don't try to downplay your numbers omeega, you're better then that. You rotate pilots/alliances when they get battlefatigue. MM RZR IRON GS TCF RA All of them are not online at the same time thol, if that's what you Call battlefatigue, even if they were they wouldn't represent more than 1000 aCtive pvpers on your island, 500 max at the same time, that was my point. Bring more excuses about your impotency in the current situation. You need them.
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Tholarim Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Tholarim don't try to downplay your numbers omeega, you're better then that. You rotate pilots/alliances when they get battlefatigue. MM RZR IRON GS TCF RA All of them are not online at the same time thol, if that's what you Call battlefatigue, even if they were they wouldn't represent more than 1000 aCtive pvpers on your island, 500 max at the same time, that was my point. The fact that your numbers are dwindling at the front doesn't diminish the fact that the pilots that are not showing up are still in the war vs bob. You count all the bob pilots, but not all the coalition pilots, is my point. I Count the bob pilots in your gang, as opposition to the pilots in ours, all this on a daily basis, that's my point. I'm not Counting your empire mission-running alts and so on, as I'm not Counting our 30 motherships doing plexes in CaChe, got my point? ;) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Omeega UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:42:00 - [47] also we/I should stop derailing this thread. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 21:47:00 - [48] Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 21:50:24 Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. You sure do. You have more then 20000 people spread in all time zones and different locations while BOB is alone defending. How dare you whine about being in disadvantage? All I can say, yes, they are better then you. What would have happened if it was a fair fight, with the same numbers?
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:02:00 - [49] Originally by: Zorland Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 21:50:24 Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Digicomm ... bob is defending against 20k people? hell no, at their prime time they're a bit more than us. main advantage is beeing in Cyno-jammed systems, beeing able to have a total Capital-ships-presenCe inCluding superCaps/Carriers. fighter lagging + double/triple doomsday is a taCtiC that works, for how long I don't know. You sure do. You have more then 20000 people spread in all time zones and different locations while BOB is alone defending. How dare you whine about being in disadvantage? All I can say, yes, they are better then you. What would have happened if it was a fair fight, with the same numbers? It doesn't matter what would have happened, because BoB made sure it would never be an even fight by inviting everyone to attack them with constant posturing and proclamations about how much better they are. Nobody cares who is "better," at the end of the day somebody's going to lose. The winner is better. ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Vahl Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:05:00 - [50] Originally by: Zorland You sure do. You have more then 20000 people spread in all time zones and different locations while BOB is alone defending. How dare you whine about being in disadvantage? All I can say, yes, they are better then you. What would have happened if it was a fair fight, with the same numbers? So once an enemy has lost all of it's allies those attacking them should back off so it stays fair. I find absolutely no flaws in this reasoning and it should be applied to real life warfare strategy. _________________________________________________________ ==REDSWARM FEDERATION== ...because we hate your f**king guts.
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:07:00 - [51] Originally by: Graphhh Can anyone relate to whats happening in "The Great War" ? Please refrain from "smart" answers , just info pls :D http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp?Sov=OFF
Lucias Trask Shadows of the Dead The Dawn of Darkness	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:09:00 - [52] I want to shoot Goonies and RA again... this would be fun. BoB you need help in Delve? Im bored. [PANIC]
Future Thing Ninja Warriors of the Round Table	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:11:00 - [53] Originally by: Vahl Originally by: Zorland You sure do. You have more then 20000 people spread in all time zones and different locations while BOB is alone defending. How dare you whine about being in disadvantage? All I can say, yes, they are better then you. What would have happened if it was a fair fight, with the same numbers? So once an enemy has lost all of it's allies those attacking them should back off so it stays fair. I find absolutely no flaws in this reasoning and it should be applied to real life warfare strategy. /!\ ALERT /!\ This is the forum police, we have a straw man, repeat a straw man, this is not a drill, all hands on deck!
Lord Shreder Trotter's Independent Traders Co	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:15:00 - [54] Originally by: Omeega RA has been used two of its multiple titans on the front, wich lead, each time, to the destruction of BOB fleets; in terms of harms you should update your intel, we're using them in non-cyno-jammed systems while BOB prefers to play the safe card and use them with the protection of their cynojammers (they're the defensers, that's what cynojammers are made for). I haven't yet seen a ballsy move from BOB, wich might be ok because of what written above. Interesting. However there was a thread with goons crying about the lag after Bob jumped a titan into 49-U6U and DD'd the fleet 3 times with 1 titan. Then I saw a thread where RA jumped a fleet into QY6 to DD the enemy fleet in the pos after you stole the password to the pos. Your right, your way was much ballsier.... Your posts have really deteriorated over the last couple of weeks tbh.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:18:00 - [55] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: Angor ... and yet they still aint dead. If roles were reversed on any other alliance in eve right now the war would have been over months ago, u gota give bob some credit tbh. I'm glad they have a new way to stop themselves getting totally steamrolled by having enuf titans to defend cyno jammers... make em work for it :) But i always support the underdog. RA fought, and won, against much worse odds, about 700 RA vs 10k LV+ V + ASCN + a ****ton of alliances now completely forgotten, but RA was playing to win. what I dislike (among other things) in BoB is that they are not playing to win, they are happy losing, making excuses of the overwhelming number in each and every post they make. They (RA) were beaten, station less back in the day, 2-3 years ago. Prolly before your time, so maybe you aren't aware of past events. They came back, after being given quarter by the forces arrayed against them. If this is what you mean by "winning" then yea, sure, they won (the right to continue to where they are now) So by using the same measuring stick you are waving around, and bob not being stationless, BOB is/has accomplished the same, and more, by remaining strongly entrenched in delve. Playing to "win", if not by your definition, is winning just the same...... According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Emnity Preston Meridian Dynamics	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:19:00 - [56] Unfortunately a load of RA and AAA pilots were discovered lost wandering around Northern Outer Ring this evening yelling 'BoB, where are you?' into the mist.. After some cordial introductions and some Russian spam in local I believe they finally consulted their maps, aswell as our own antisocial Russian neighbours, and headed back down to where its at. We would like to formally apologise to BoB, on these here intaweb forums for stealing their Saturday evening entertainment.
C4w3 Minmatar Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:20:00 - [57] Notting to see here move along..... Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal "If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device an
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:32:00 - [58] Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 22:33:24 Originally by: Vahl Originally by: Zorland You sure do. You have more then 20000 people spread in all time zones and different locations while BOB is alone defending. How dare you whine about being in disadvantage? All I can say, yes, they are better then you. What would have happened if it was a fair fight, with the same numbers? So once an enemy has lost all of it's allies those attacking them should back off so it stays fair. I find absolutely no flaws in this reasoning and it should be applied to real life warfare strategy. If you are trying to put BOB in the same NAPing basket with you, just don't. Everything you ever achived in this game was thru NAPs. Starting with RA NAP and CJ-, CA NAP against V, TCF NAP against LV, North and -A- NAP against BOB. But I understand and let me quote you on this: Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Zorland, read what Vile said. We aren't knights jousting for the hand of a damsel, get this idea out of your head. BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:43:00 - [59] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 02/02/2008 22:45:42 Originally by: Omeega I'm not Counting our 30 motherships doing plexes in CaChe, I sure do. While your allies are stuggling to fight dreads and titans with conventional ships, only to be swatted aside in the same way one swats a fly, you are having various op's in the relaxing calm back home away from danger. Hence the reason why the lack of heavy firepower and numbers, as its silly being thrown into the meatgrinder that is Qy6, and many people think like yourself, doing their missions back home or mining a bit here and there. Hence why everything has came to a grinding halt. -- Billion Isk Mission
Angor The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:44:00 - [60] Originally by: Lord Shreder Originally by: Omeega RA has been used two of its multiple titans on the front, wich lead, each time, to the destruction of BOB fleets; in terms of harms you should update your intel, we're using them in non-cyno-jammed systems while BOB prefers to play the safe card and use them with the protection of their cynojammers (they're the defensers, that's what cynojammers are made for). I haven't yet seen a ballsy move from BOB, wich might be ok because of what written above. Interesting. However there was a thread with goons crying about the lag after Bob jumped a titan into 49-U6U and DD'd the fleet 3 times with 1 titan. Then I saw a thread where RA jumped a fleet into QY6 to DD the enemy fleet in the pos after you stole the password to the pos. Your right, your way was much ballsier.... Your posts have really deteriorated over the last couple of weeks tbh. nice _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!!
Cristinutza Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:47:00 - [61] Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. LV ? ISS ? FIX ? MC ? YW ? XELAS ? AFTERMATH ? MORTIS ? CORELUM ? should i continue ?
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:49:00 - [62] Originally by: Cristinutza Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. LV ? ISS ? FIX ? MC ? YW ? XELAS ? AFTERMATH ? MORTIS ? CORELUM ? should i continue ? All lacked faith in the Amarr Emperor. So the point is? Sig locked, lack of Eve content
Black Jumper Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:56:00 - [63] Edited by: Black Jumper on 02/02/2008 22:56:39 Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Ahaha this zorland guy is like the best troller for the past january month. Keep it up dude. Want some coffee ? --- 22:31:49 Notify Archon belonging to Galavet self-destructs.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:57:00 - [64] Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Sabre BPO, anyone? Dude
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 22:59:00 - [65] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Sabre BPO, anyone? Dude Dude That must have made ALOT of difference to the balance in EVE.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:00:00 - [66] Originally by: Lord WarATron I sure do. While your allies are stuggling to fight dreads and titans with conventional ships, only to be swatted aside in the same way one swats a fly, you are having various op's in the relaxing calm back home away from danger. Hence the reason why the lack of heavy firepower and numbers, as its silly being thrown into the meatgrinder that is Qy6, and many people think like yourself, doing their missions back home or mining a bit here and there. Hence why everything has came to a grinding halt. Counter propaganda? Sounds familiar. Patience.
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:01:00 - [67] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Sabre BPO, anyone? Dude Dude That must have made ALOT of difference to the balance in EVE. Don't pretend you're blind.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:02:00 - [68] Edited by: TWD on 02/02/2008 23:03:22 Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: TWD Dude That must have made ALOT of difference to the balance in EVE. Don't pretend you're blind. The bpo pushed us from being alliance ranked as #501337 to #1.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:05:00 - [69] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Sabre BPO, anyone? Dude Yep, that one guy that was cheating sure made a difference to BOB or anyone else.
Wanna Kill Caldari Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:06:00 - [70] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Sabre BPO, anyone? Dude The amount of dignity you guys manage to keep each time you are totally mashed by pulling the bpo incidents-memes is fabulous, keep up the outstanding work. Should I want to relate the incidents to your alliances which quite frankly are the hypocrites, then I could relate them to the goons' blackmailing in some ways. ''But that wasnt all of us, this is not fair'' etc etc. Think about it, put up - and shut up. ----------
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:07:00 - [71] Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 02/02/2008 23:10:50 Originally by: TWD The bpo pushed us from being alliance ranked as #501337 to #1. #4
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:09:00 - [72] Originally by: Black Jumper Edited by: Black Jumper on 02/02/2008 22:56:39 Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Ahaha this zorland guy is like the best troller for the past january month. Keep it up dude. Want some coffee ? Why am I a troll? Because I see "truth" you are offering here on this forum for months as false? Now look at you post again, and tell me who of the two of us is a troll?
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:10:00 - [73] Edited by: Sir Dancealot on 02/02/2008 23:10:46 Originally by: Zorland Originally by: Black Jumper Edited by: Black Jumper on 02/02/2008 22:56:39 Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Ahaha this zorland guy is like the best troller for the past january month. Keep it up dude. Want some coffee ? Why am I a troll? Because I see "truth" you are offering here on this forum for months as false? Now look at you post again, and tell me who of the two of us is a troll? You were just trolled mate Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:12:00 - [74] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Edited by: Tearavygh Quillam on 02/02/2008 23:10:50 Originally by: TWD The bpo pushed us from being alliance ranked as #501337 to #1. #4 #4? Aw, damnit.
Muesli Monster Minmatar EvE Corporation 23846	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Zorland BOB AFAIK achived everything on their own and they stand tall alone again today. That is exactly why they are better then you. Because they are EVE knights and you all are a Zerg horde. Knights and Zerg horde? Have you ever played StarCraft et all? There is no knights in it, the same as there is no EPIC (mounts/equips/fights) in EvE, even if BoB says they wants them EPIC (whoooeeoo) splat
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:19:00 - [76] I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:23:00 - [77] Originally by: TWD The bpo pushed us from being alliance ranked as #501337 to #1. Whether the BPO pushed you anywhere is not the point. The point is no-one else received an ill-gotten bpo from a dev. The value that was extracted from that BPO was and can never be repaid to those who never received an ill-gotten bpo from a dev.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:24:00 - [78] Originally by: Exioce I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed. BOB didn't fail. They stayed on the right track. It's a different story that the rest of EVE fell for Goon amazing "charm".
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:25:00 - [79] Originally by: Exioce I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed. Artificial timetables of accomplishing that set out goal would be a mistake. An artifical timetable would say to an enemy, just wait them out; it would say to the goons, don't do hard things necessary to achieve our objectives; and it would be discouraging for our troops.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:27:00 - [80] Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 23:31:00 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: TWD The bpo pushed us from being alliance ranked as #501337 to #1. Whether the BPO pushed you anywhere is not the point. The point is no-one else received an ill-gotten bpo from a dev. The value that was extracted from that BPO was and can never be repaid to those who never received an ill-gotten bpo from a dev. And you can prove that everyone in BOB (with leadership or not) was aware that BPO was not won on lottery thus making them ALL cheaters rather then only 1 person being labeled as such? Honestly, Coalition lost me at the point when they accused CCP as a company as being cheaters trying to help BOB. How stupid can someone be to beleive that?
duckmonster GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:28:00 - [81] Originally by: Archonon They still have their K/D ratio ... since they stopped to post their looses. This is the best sig ever. -----------
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:31:00 - [82] Originally by: TWD Artificial timetables of accomplishing that set out goal would be a mistake. An artifical timetable would say to an enemy, just wait them out; it would say to the goons, don't do hard things necessary to achieve our objectives; and it would be discouraging for our troops. It is one thing to argue the above when you're on the offensive and taking enemy territory, and quite another when you're down to your last region and all your allies have abandoned you.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:35:00 - [83] Originally by: Zorland And you can prove that everyone in BOB (with leadership or not) was aware that BPO was not won on lottery thus making them ALL cheaters rather then only 1 person being labeled as such? Honestly, Coalition lost me at the point when they accused CCP as a company as being cheaters trying to help BOB. How stupid can someone be to beleive that? Did I say all BoB were aware, or did I say the value that was gained was not gained by any other player, corp, or alliance? Learn to read please. And whether the rank and file knew about it or not, they benefited from it as an alliance asset. No other alliance leaders or rank and file members benefited from the cheating actions of a dev.
MAXSuicide Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:36:00 - [84] Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining they rose to it like flies to ****. GJ
Keeves Minmatar Sexy Pirate Club	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:37:00 - [85] Originally by: Exioce I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed. This arguement is so 6 months ago...
Wanna Kill Caldari Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:40:00 - [86] Originally by: Keeves Originally by: Exioce I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed. This arguement is so 6 months ago... ''Hey lets amplify the meme by spamming it'' ----------
Keeves Minmatar Sexy Pirate Club	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:44:00 - [87] Originally by: Wanna Kill Originally by: Keeves Originally by: Exioce I seem to remember a claim that there are no goons, and that they would never be allowed to build up in 0.0 again. Since that is BoB's own criteria for success, I guess we can say they've patently failed. This arguement is so 6 months ago... ''Hey lets amplify the meme by spamming it'' QFT
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Keeves BoB is so 6 months ago... Fixed that for you.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:50:00 - [89] Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 23:54:36 Edited by: Zorland on 02/02/2008 23:53:46 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Zorland And you can prove that everyone in BOB (with leadership or not) was aware that BPO was not won on lottery thus making them ALL cheaters rather then only 1 person being labeled as such? Honestly, Coalition lost me at the point when they accused CCP as a company as being cheaters trying to help BOB. How stupid can someone be to beleive that? Did I say all BoB were aware, or did I say the value that was gained was not gained by any other player, corp, or alliance? Learn to read please. And whether the rank and file knew about it or not, they benefited from it as an alliance asset. No other alliance leaders or rank and file members benefited from the cheating actions of a dev. Well if BOB is under attack by the rest of EVE for the reason of cheating then they must all be involved in the act right? Or do you think that they all should be removed from the game for the act of one? Following that logic in RL, a nation should be exterminated if one of it's citizens has been caught stealing (for the benefit of his own nation). You sound like a racist to me.... And I said already, if you think that an alliance like BOB (or any other alliance tbh) will benefit from 1 tech 2 BPO, then you are really clueless about how biggest alliances in game generate ISK.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:58:00 - [90] Originally by: Zorland Well if BOB is under attack by the rest of EVE for the reason of cheating then they must all be involved in the act right? And I said already, if you think that an alliance like BOB (or any other alliance tbh) will benefit from 1 tech 2 BPO, then you are really clueless about how biggest alliances in game generate ISK. Yes, because a bpo worth at least 10 billion isk on the open market, producing an item of limited supply and great practical use, confers absolutely no benefit whatsoever to those who have it. And it was more than one bpo, eight if I remember correctly. And you call others clueless... Even if they received a single t1 bpo any use of it would still be the proceeds of cheating. That will never change.
Gorefacer Caldari Resurrection	Posted - 2008.02.02 23:59:00 - [91] Originally by: Eacham Graeme It's been fun, and I'm looking forward to having more fun. Tis why we play the game, no? Common sense would dictate "yes". You don't get that feeling by reading this message board though, do you? "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:01:00 - [92] Originally by: Zorland You sound like a racist to me.... When your argument fails, accuse them of racism, eh?
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:02:00 - [93] Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 00:04:25 Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 00:03:02 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Zorland Well if BOB is under attack by the rest of EVE for the reason of cheating then they must all be involved in the act right? And I said already, if you think that an alliance like BOB (or any other alliance tbh) will benefit from 1 tech 2 BPO, then you are really clueless about how biggest alliances in game generate ISK. Yes, because a bpo worth at least 10 billion isk on the open market, producing an item of limited supply and great practical use, confers absolutely no benefit whatsoever to those who have it. And it was more than one bpo, eight if I remember correctly. And you call others clueless... Even if they received a single t1 bpo any use of it would still be the proceeds of cheating. That will never change. Well I have to at you for thinking that 10 bil is a LOT of isk. Eight what? BOB members had stolen 8 tech 2 BPO's? Is that what you are saying? You have a proof to back that up or you just making stuff up now? Yes, one guy was cheating. And CCP reversed that. What does that have to do with other BOB members?
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:07:00 - [94] Edited by: Exioce on 03/02/2008 00:07:37 Originally by: Zorland Well I have to at you for thinking that 10 bil is a LOT of isk. So I'm a racist AND poor. wow Zorland, you really are clutching at straws today. If you could formulate a decent point it wouldn't really be necessary. Quote: Eight what? BOB members had stolen 8 tech 2 BPO's? Is that what you are saying? You have a proof to back that up or you just making stuff up now? Eight bpo's were given to BoB by t20, dumbass. Most were ammo types, but it's more than anyone else got from any dev.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:10:00 - [95] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Zorland You sound like a racist to me.... When your argument fails, accuse them of racism, eh? Who said my arguments failed? But yes, in general when you accuse many for the act of one, you can say that's because you hate a specific group or race.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:15:00 - [96] Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 00:16:05 Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 00:15:37 Originally by: Exioce Edited by: Exioce on 03/02/2008 00:07:37 Originally by: Zorland Well I have to at you for thinking that 10 bil is a LOT of isk. So I'm a racist AND poor. wow Zorland, you really are clutching at straws today. If you could formulate a decent point it wouldn't really be necessary. Quote: Eight what? BOB members had stolen 8 tech 2 BPO's? Is that what you are saying? You have a proof to back that up or you just making stuff up now? Eight bpo's were given to BoB by t20, dumbass. Most were ammo types, but it's more than anyone else got from any dev. Oh so I am a dumbass now, my dear Goon alt(and I call you Goon alt based on your corp history). Talking about failed argument right there. No need for me to furhter discuss this subject with you , Sir. I'll leave it to the forum readers to make their own conclusions.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:18:00 - [97] Originally by: Zorland Who said my arguments failed? But yes, in general when you accuse many for the act of one, you can say that's because you hate a specific group or race. Your arguments have clearly failed, since your only recourse is to attempt to equate my factual assertion that BoB as a whole benefited from those ill-gotten assets with racism.
TWD Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:18:00 - [98] Damn alts arguing with eachother.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:20:00 - [99] Originally by: Zorland I've failed to make any decent arguments so I shall now run away Fixed that for you.
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:22:00 - [100] Hey, there's a guy here still pretending to be me. Even after my return? That is pretty hilarious, but it infringes on my forum greatness. Specifically, your propaganda blows massive chunks Digicomm, and I am forced to consign you to witlessness in my space journal :( If you want to make an argument for why the Coalition sucks, all you have to do is tell the truth. LIKE SO: Its a coalition consisting of virtually all the major players in 0.0, and the merger of two geographic power blocs that were each massive on their own. Common hate being the only unifying factor in this otherwise unlikely pairing. This hate being the resultant of being provoked and threatened sufficiently enough by a single group no bigger than any of theirs across a time span of two years. For one year now, individual Coalition members put aside any personal ambitions to each become the strongest and greatest alliances in EVE - simply to focus on annihilating said group. Presumably because they saw the power gap between the enemy and each one of themselves grow wider, while the gap in territory grew narrower. Either way they had no desire/ability/willpower to achieve it alone. This Coalition failed in the first six months, while having the largest advantage in numbers and propaganda anyone has ever had in EVE history by orders of magnitude. They were also simultaneous victims to both the two largest single military defeats, and the biggest failure of spy intelligence in this time. Now they're claiming space and making ground, using the only strategy BoB hasn't found a counter for already, and the strategy they intended to use from the start. All the while, this Coalition is preparing themselves for the coming declaration of victory when the last station falls based on all accounts. Only the enemy they're fighting isn't likely to care and disband as they might have in a similar situation, since the whole war is a testament to domination in EVE and one massive ego stroke for BoB. Especially more so since the conquest of more territory than one needs had this intent to begin with, and despite memetic jokes to the contrary, no one would put it past BoB to look for such an ego stroke (personal experience hay). The shady Halo2/Crysis ending where BoB has no space but still lives as a competent fighting force will result in a propaganda war. Proponents of the Coalition try to present the idea of having achieved goals/victory to BoB and EVE, and having done a service to EVE. Which is only serving as fuel for the next two years of war as BoB fights for the precarious position of "best alliance" as they always have, only with different momentum and more freedom of choice. It will be in a 0.0 environment where everyone can see the giant pink rhino in the room but nobody wants to talk or deal with it outside of token anti-rhino support groups to token allies. Because for the first time in years there isn't an obvious solution, and the incentives to focus on empire building at home (or become disinterested or paranoid of certain other groups) are back. <bsg> All this has happened before, and all this will happen again </bsg> Unf _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:25:00 - [101] Hey where'd my avatar go ;\ _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:28:00 - [102] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 00:30:45 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 00:29:32 Originally by: Exioce Edited by: Exioce on 03/02/2008 00:07:37 Originally by: Zorland Well I have to at you for thinking that 10 bil is a LOT of isk. So I'm a racist AND poor. wow Zorland, you really are clutching at straws today. If you could formulate a decent point it wouldn't really be necessary. Quote: Eight what? BOB members had stolen 8 tech 2 BPO's? Is that what you are saying? You have a proof to back that up or you just making stuff up now? Eight bpo's were given to BoB by t20, dumbass. Most were ammo types, but it's more than anyone else got from any dev. I thought it was a sabre bpo and a t2 ammo bpo i do not remember there being 6 others or that the whole of bob was involved so blaming an entire alliance for the misdeads of a select few is stupid. Plus i do not see how it changed the course of all the wars they fought even if their was 8 cos at best it would have made 4 ppl self suffecient. The whole t20 issue seems to me like a flag bitter victims of bob wars or currant enemies drag out like some sort of flag to wave around but tbqfh its a rather thread bare and pathetic flag at best. The t20 thing could have happened in any alliance in game not just bob and to blame an entire alliance for the misdeads of a few is pitiful. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:29:00 - [103] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Specifically, your propaganda blows massive chunks Digicomm, and I am forced to consign you to witlessness in my space journal :( If you want to make an argument for why the Coalition sucks, all you have to do is tell the truth... LIKE SO: ...This Coalition failed in the first six months... Factually wrong. I thought you wanted to give a good example by posting "the truth"? EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:41:00 - [104] Edited by: Exioce on 03/02/2008 00:41:37 Originally by: HEY LISTEN I thought it was a sabre bpo and a t2 ammo bpo i do not remember there being 6 others or that the whole of bob was involved so blaming an entire alliance for the misdeads of a select few is stupid. Plus i do not see how it changed the course of all the wars they fought even if their was 8 cos at best it would have made 4 ppl self suffecient. Did I say all were to blame? No. Did I say all benefited from the assets as a whole? Yes, and that's a fact because what benefits an alliance benefits its individual members. And if you don't see how an asset worth over ten billion isk changes anything then perhaps you should pass all your money and assets to a random person because hey, it won't changed anything for you or that person either, right? Quote: The whole t20 issue seems to me like a flag bitter victims of bob wars or currant enemies drag out like some sort of flag to wave around but tbqfh its a rather thread bare and pathetic flag at best. The t20 thing could have happened in any alliance in game not just bob and to blame an entire alliance for the misdeads of a few is pitiful. Yeah, because it's not like any of it ever happened, right, so let's not mention it ever again
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 00:51:00 - [105] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 00:56:05 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 00:52:10 Originally by: Exioce Edited by: Exioce on 03/02/2008 00:41:37 Originally by: HEY LISTEN I thought it was a sabre bpo and a t2 ammo bpo i do not remember there being 6 others or that the whole of bob was involved so blaming an entire alliance for the misdeads of a select few is stupid. Plus i do not see how it changed the course of all the wars they fought even if their was 8 cos at best it would have made 4 ppl self suffecient. Did I say all were to blame? No. Did I say all benefited from the assets as a whole? Yes, and that's a fact because what benefits an alliance benefits its individual members. And if you don't see how an asset worth over ten billion isk changes anything then perhaps you should pass all your money and assets to a random person because hey, it won't changed anything for you or that person either, right? Quote: The whole t20 issue seems to me like a flag bitter victims of bob wars or currant enemies drag out like some sort of flag to wave around but tbqfh its a rather thread bare and pathetic flag at best. The t20 thing could have happened in any alliance in game not just bob and to blame an entire alliance for the misdeads of a few is pitiful. Yeah, because it's not like any of it ever happened, right, so let's not mention it ever again I did not say it made no differance at all i said it made no differance to the wars they won lets face it in a multi multi thousand player war 10 bil is the cost of 1 engagment if that. And i do not say it never happened only that ppl like you drag it up wave it like a sad little flag as if it was the whole of the alliance and like it made some sort of differance to eve apart from for 2 or 3 ppl at most. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
DigitalCommunist Obsidian Core	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:02:00 - [106] Originally by: Victor Vision Originally by: DigitalCommunist Specifically, your propaganda blows massive chunks Digicomm, and I am forced to consign you to witlessness in my space journal :( If you want to make an argument for why the Coalition sucks, all you have to do is tell the truth... LIKE SO: ...This Coalition failed in the first six months... Factually wrong. I thought you wanted to give a good example by posting "the truth"? Factually: GBC gained more allies and space :W Factually: Putting "intelligence" in your corp name doesn't mean you have any :G Besides, if I was wrong you'd be quoting something furiously instead of going "nuh uh!". _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:03:00 - [107] Originally by: HEY LISTEN I did not say it made no differance at all i said it made no differance to the wars they won lets face it in a multi multi thousand player war 10 bil is the cost of 1 engagment if that. When any other alliance in this game is given one free engagement or ten or more deathstars by a dev, then we'll talk. Cheating that benefits someone only slightly is still cheating. Quote: And i do not say it never happened only that ppl like you drag it up wave it like a sad little flag as if it was the whole of the alliance and like it made some sort of differance to eve apart from for 2 or 3 ppl at most. When an alliance insists on telling you how great it is, it is only fitting to remind it that some of that greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains.
Ekram Riz Minmatar Wyland-Yutani Corporation	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:06:00 - [108] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN I did not say it made no differance at all i said it made no differance to the wars they won lets face it in a multi multi thousand player war 10 bil is the cost of 1 engagment if that. When any other alliance in this game is given one free engagement or ten or more deathstars by a dev, then we'll talk. Cheating that benefits someone only slightly is still cheating. Quote: And i do not say it never happened only that ppl like you drag it up wave it like a sad little flag as if it was the whole of the alliance and like it made some sort of differance to eve apart from for 2 or 3 ppl at most. When an alliance insists on telling you how great it is, it is only fitting to remind it that some of that greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains. It's the person that was cheating, not the alliance.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:09:00 - [109] Originally by: Ekram Riz It's the person that was cheating, not the alliance. The alliance benefited, and was not reduced of assets equal to the value of the benefit derived. The cheater is still employed with the company.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:10:00 - [110] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 01:12:16 Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 01:10:19 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN I did not say it made no differance at all i said it made no differance to the wars they won lets face it in a multi multi thousand player war 10 bil is the cost of 1 engagment if that. When any other alliance in this game is given one free engagement or ten or more deathstars by a dev, then we'll talk. Cheating that benefits someone only slightly is still cheating. Quote: And i do not say it never happened only that ppl like you drag it up wave it like a sad little flag as if it was the whole of the alliance and like it made some sort of differance to eve apart from for 2 or 3 ppl at most. When an alliance insists on telling you how great it is, it is only fitting to remind it that some of that greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains. The coalition had taken 11 bil a day losses in delve so far acording to the molle post you are a clue less noob if you think 10 bil is anything other than pocket change for the alliances involved in this war. But if you wanna believe that the 10 bil worth of bpo's is as you say "greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains" then by all means do so but understand that the rest of us that know how large wars and alliances work are laughing our asses off at you bud cos you do not have a clue. Acouple of players were made self suffecient and they happened to be members of bob anything else is propoganda from bitter victims of their wars. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Smacker1	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:10:00 - [111] Tbh ALL alliances currently attacking BoB should take a look at themselfs as not one of them could possibly come close to matching them one vs one, or even 2 vs 1 tbh. The dislike for each other BoB and Goons have is caused by the north ( D2 ,Iron and the rest) not being able to lay the smack down on Goons that BoB did themselfs.After all it was Goons smack that got them in trouble with BoB in the first place (xzh-4x being the system i believe this started at) I sit on the fence and watch this all the time and truth be known , i have trouble deciding who i dislike out of BoB and Goon BoB = arrogant ( with rights to be imo but it still don't make it right) Goon = complete idiots boring as hell , and very insulting on the forums on many subjects But the thing that really gets me is watching this forum and seeing chest beating losers like Iron, Mostly useless, and the rest going on like they actually matter in the grand scale of things. Again i state your alliances could ever do anything alone. BoB stand alone against most of EVE right now, and i personally wish them luck and thank them for showing alliances like D2(dead) Iron ,FLA(dead) MM, RZR, ASCN (dead) and Goons just how useless they really are. If the servers could handle this game better you would all be getting owned even more.
Ekram Riz Minmatar Wyland-Yutani Corporation	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:11:00 - [112] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Ekram Riz It's the person that was cheating, not the alliance. The alliance benefited, and was not reduced of assets equal to the value of the benefit derived. The cheater is still employed with the company. So destroy the company or remove the cheater?
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:14:00 - [113] Originally by: HEY LISTEN The coalition had taken 11 bil a day losses in delve so far acording to the molle post you are a clue less noob if you think 10 bil is anything other that pocket change for the alliances involved in this war. But if you wanna believe that the 10 bil worth of bpo's is as you say "greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains" then by all means do so but understand that the rest of us that know how large wars and alliances work are laughing our asses off at you bud cos you do not have a clue. And the Coalition wasn't given back 11 billion isk by t20, so your point is rather stupid. If the Coalition was given back 11 billion by t20 you might have a point, but until then you don't. Sorry.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:19:00 - [114] Originally by: Ekram Riz So destroy the company or remove the cheater? A company of dozens is not destroyed by the removal of one person. At the very least, the company could have tallied a rough value of the benefit derived from the bpo (daily production capacity x days owned x average market value) and taken that isk value from the BoB corp wallet. That would have gone some way to making amends, but it was never done.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:19:00 - [115] Edited by: Murina on 03/02/2008 01:20:59 Edited by: Murina on 03/02/2008 01:20:33 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN The coalition had taken 11 bil a day losses in delve so far acording to the molle post you are a clue less noob if you think 10 bil is anything other that pocket change for the alliances involved in this war. But if you wanna believe that the 10 bil worth of bpo's is as you say "greatness was bought with ill-gotten gains" then by all means do so but understand that the rest of us that know how large wars and alliances work are laughing our asses off at you bud cos you do not have a clue. And the Coalition wasn't given back 11 billion isk by t20, so your point is rather stupid. If the Coalition was given back 11 billion by t20 you might have a point, but until then you don't. Sorry. His point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:20:00 - [116] Originally by: Ekram Riz Sorry, but your propaganda just don't work on some of us. Those would be the people who like to excuse BoB its cheating derived benefits.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:22:00 - [117] Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's?
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:23:00 - [118] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Ekram Riz So destroy the company or remove the cheater? A company of dozens is not destroyed by the removal of one person. At the very least, the company could have tallied a rough value of the benefit derived from the bpo (daily production capacity x days owned x average market value) and taken that isk value from the BoB corp wallet. That would have gone some way to making amends, but it was never done. Yada,yada,yada. If you Goons are so concerned about some stupid tech 2 BPO, and not the fact that BOB griefed you and still does, like no one EVER will, why don't you remove them from the game? Oh, wait, you've been trying.... Including this propaganda war you are taking to the forum. I for one, don't beleive one word you are typing here.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:25:00 - [119] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's? Nowhere but then as i have been trying to drum into your head not every single bob member got the bpo's only 1 or 2 did (most did not even know about it) and it proly made those 2 ppl self suffecient but hey if you think that changed bobs fortunes and made them all those titans and gained them all that space then i can only say LOL. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:26:00 - [120] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's? Neither did i get any but then i suppose nor did all of bob just a couple of em. HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:27:00 - [121] Originally by: Zorland Yada,yada,yada. If you Goons are so concerned about some stupid tech 2 BPO, and not the fact that BOB griefed you and still does, like no one EVER will, why don't you remove them from the game? Oh, wait, you've been trying.... Including this propaganda war you are taking to the forum. I for one, don't beleive one word you are typing here. I must be reading the maps wrong, because apparently I see BoB losing its precious Fountain and Delve and the Coalition gaining it. Don't tell me, they didn't want those regions anyway.
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:29:00 - [122] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's? Nowhere but then as i have been trying to drum into your head not every single bob member got the bpo's only 1 or 2 did (most did not even know about it) and it proly made those 2 ppl self suffecient but hey if you think that changed bobs fortunes and made them all those titans and gained them all that space then i can only say LOL. Howdy dude love your posts btw mara will be back in about 10 or 12 days btw keep up the good work HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Darkrydar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:29:00 - [123] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: thoth foc Currently the coalition is spamming the forums that they ahve won.. while still not having significantly weakened BOB.. it's mildly entertaining You have only lost hundreds (300 ? 400 ?) poses, the direct or indirect control over 50ish stations. You have lost hundreds of billions of income per month from renting / stations / moonmining poses. You have also lost every single allies you had, as well as any diplomatical power (remember the time when people would beg to be "allied" to BoB ?) You have given up on attacking anything or anyone, you're stuck in cyno jammed system. You have already forgotten that at some point everyone feared to be invaded by BoB. You have also forgotten the time when BoB was flying better ships than anyone else in Eve now looking at the fitting you can't tell the difference between an average GS battleship and BoB battleship. You're right, BoB has not been "significantly weakened". There are no coalition troops in Delve either. Too bad we're not like you and just surrender when the first pos gets shot, amirite? Please do not post pictures of players in your sig - Mitnal
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:31:00 - [124] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Hey, there's a guy here still pretending to be me. Even after my return? That is pretty hilarious, but it infringes on my forum greatness. Specifically, your propaganda blows massive chunks Digicomm, and I am forced to consign you to witlessness in my space journal :( If you want to make an argument for why the Coalition sucks, all you have to do is tell the truth. LIKE SO: Its a coalition consisting of virtually all the major players in 0.0, and the merger of two geographic power blocs that were each massive on their own. Common hate being the only unifying factor in this otherwise unlikely pairing. This hate being the resultant of being provoked and threatened sufficiently enough by a single group no bigger than any of theirs across a time span of two years. For one year now, individual Coalition members put aside any personal ambitions to each become the strongest and greatest alliances in EVE - simply to focus on annihilating said group. Presumably because they saw the power gap between the enemy and each one of themselves grow wider, while the gap in territory grew narrower. Either way they had no desire/ability/willpower to achieve it alone. This Coalition failed in the first six months, while having the largest advantage in numbers and propaganda anyone has ever had in EVE history by orders of magnitude. They were also simultaneous victims to both the two largest single military defeats, and the biggest failure of spy intelligence in this time. Now they're claiming space and making ground, using the only strategy BoB hasn't found a counter for already, and the strategy they intended to use from the start. All the while, this Coalition is preparing themselves for the coming declaration of victory when the last station falls based on all accounts. Only the enemy they're fighting isn't likely to care and disband as they might have in a similar situation, since the whole war is a testament to domination in EVE and one massive ego stroke for BoB. Especially more so since the conquest of more territory than one needs had this intent to begin with, and despite memetic jokes to the contrary, no one would put it past BoB to look for such an ego stroke (personal experience hay). The shady Halo2/Crysis ending where BoB has no space but still lives as a competent fighting force will result in a propaganda war. Proponents of the Coalition try to present the idea of having achieved goals/victory to BoB and EVE, and having done a service to EVE. Which is only serving as fuel for the next two years of war as BoB fights for the precarious position of "best alliance" as they always have, only with different momentum and more freedom of choice. It will be in a 0.0 environment where everyone can see the giant pink rhino in the room but nobody wants to talk or deal with it outside of token anti-rhino support groups to token allies. Because for the first time in years there isn't an obvious solution, and the incentives to focus on empire building at home (or become disinterested or paranoid of certain other groups) are back. <bsg> All this has happened before, and all this will happen again </bsg> Unf <3 _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:32:00 - [125] Originally by: Murina Originally by: HEY LISTEN Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's? Nowhere but then as i have been trying to drum into your head not every single bob member got the bpo's only 1 or 2 did (most did not even know about it) and it proly made those 2 ppl self suffecient but hey if you think that changed bobs fortunes and made them all those titans and gained them all that space then i can only say LOL. Howdy dude love your posts btw mara will be back in about 10 or 12 days btw keep up the good work Cool but off topic il convo you in game I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:32:00 - [126] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Nowhere but then as i have been trying to drum into your head not every single bob member got the bpo's only 1 or 2 did (most did not even know about it) and it proly made those 2 ppl self suffecient but hey if you think that changed bobs fortunes and made them all those titans and gained them all that space then i can only say LOL. And those one or two used those assets to benefit the alliance as a whole. And those one or two (or the corp) never had assets to the value of the benefit taken off them. It's strange you're not able to comprehend this simple fact. I wonder what drives people like yourself to such dishonesty...
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:34:00 - [127] Originally by: Murina Neither did i get any but then i suppose nor did all of bob just a couple of em. All of BoB did benefit as they were alliance held assets, and what benefits an alliance benefits its individual members.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:34:00 - [128] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Zorland Yada,yada,yada. If you Goons are so concerned about some stupid tech 2 BPO, and not the fact that BOB griefed you and still does, like no one EVER will, why don't you remove them from the game? Oh, wait, you've been trying.... Including this propaganda war you are taking to the forum. I for one, don't beleive one word you are typing here. I must be reading the maps wrong, because apparently I see BoB losing its precious Fountain and Delve and the Coalition gaining it. Don't tell me, they didn't want those regions anyway. Well, after NAPing MC, TOXIN and KIA, the only remaining entities on BOB side are Reikoku, FinFleet and Evolution. If you can somehow make them believe in your forum crap like others on this forum do, you might actually win against BOB.
thoth foc Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:36:00 - [129] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina Neither did i get any but then i suppose nor did all of bob just a couple of em. All of BoB did benefit as they were alliance held assets, and what benefits an alliance benefits its individual members. so why do you still suck so badly?? you can only beat an excuse for so many years tbh.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) xElcyion Lacar
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:37:00 - [130] Eh. T2 BPOs are worth far more than 11 billion over the course of months/years (especially pre-invention or before they have even been released). And '11 billion' is only what they were caught with. No one has any idea how many times this happened prior to them being caught. It would make sense if bob had received T2 BPOs prior to this, as they were in fully T2 fit ships long before anyone else. And T2 ships were most of what allowed them to roll over all of the other alliances when they were building their empire. It completely destroys any legitimate greatness that they could have been able to claim. It is a sad fact that regardless of whether or not the regular bob member had any involvement or knowledge of this, they all would have been reaping the benefits.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:39:00 - [131] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina Neither did i get any but then i suppose nor did all of bob just a couple of em. All of BoB did benefit as they were alliance held assets, and what benefits an alliance benefits its individual members. 11 bil devided by say 4000 = 2 million 750 thousand each lol omfg why dont they all have titans!!!!!!! lol I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Lucas Avignon Avignon Associates Inc.	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:41:00 - [132] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Murina HIS point is that 10 or 11 billion is chump change to alliances and in wars this large pal you are the one claiming it was a eve changing momentous event lol. So where is the "chump change" CCP dumped in everyone elses lap via t2 bpo's? Someone beating their drum about a dev who abused his power and cheated, that could have been in any alliance but happened to be in BoB, therefore you believe all of BoB are guilty of cheating. Your making pathetic arguments of little consquence and your only goal is to smear bob in some way, to the casual observer your actually achieving the opposite of what your aim is. You must be attention starved or something, but tbh I don't care either way but it's terribly boring to read one or two people drag up the same crap that happened what, one or two years ago now and beat it to death, what nearly everyday since it happened
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:43:00 - [133] Originally by: Arturus Vex Eh. T2 BPOs are worth far more than 11 billion over the course of months/years (especially pre-invention or before they have even been released). And '11 billion' is only what they were caught with. No one has any idea how many times this happened prior to them being caught. It would make sense if bob had received T2 BPOs prior to this, as they were in fully T2 fit ships long before anyone else. And T2 ships were most of what allowed them to roll over all of the other alliances when they were building their empire. It completely destroys any legitimate greatness that they could have been able to claim. It is a sad fact that regardless of whether or not the regular bob member had any involvement or knowledge of this, they all would have been reaping the benefits. Ah I see, so now, you thing they should be accused not only for factual things but also for imaginery things? What if.... I guess it's true, when people want to believe in something they will, and it doesn't matter how stupid that might be. Why don't you just say the real reason why you hate BOB? Do you hate them for something they did to you (your alliance) in the past? Do you hate them because you loose every fleet fight against them? Or do you hate them becaus they didn't accept your application? You see, reasons like this are acceptable, just stop with "they cheat, they hack" bull****.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:43:00 - [134] Originally by: Zorland Well, after NAPing MC, TOXIN and KIA, the only remaining entities on BOB side are Reikoku, FinFleet and Evolution. If you can somehow make them believe in your forum crap like others on this forum do, you might actually win against BOB. Oh I see: BoB is superior due to its ability to LOSE regions and allies. And here I was thinking the ability to TAKE regions and make allies conferred superiority...
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:45:00 - [135] Originally by: thoth foc so why do you still suck so badly?? you can only beat an excuse for so many years tbh.. So how many regions and allies have you gained lately? Do tell.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:46:00 - [136] Originally by: HEY LISTEN 11 bil devided by say 4000 = 2 million 750 thousand each lol omfg why dont they all have titans!!!!!!! lol I don't recall a dev giving anyone else a free 2 million 750 thousand each.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:49:00 - [137] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN 11 bil devided by say 4000 = 2 million 750 thousand each lol omfg why dont they all have titans!!!!!!! lol I don't recall a dev giving anyone else a free 2 million 750 thousand each. Neither do i but then as i have already said im not stupid enough to think that such a pitiful ammout could or did change the face of eve and made bob a super power lol lets face it that ammout is about what you would get from a good rat including the loot. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:49:00 - [138] Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 01:52:03 Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 01:49:46 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: Zorland Well, after NAPing MC, TOXIN and KIA, the only remaining entities on BOB side are Reikoku, FinFleet and Evolution. If you can somehow make them believe in your forum crap like others on this forum do, you might actually win against BOB. Oh I see: BoB is superior due to its ability to LOSE regions and allies. And here I was thinking the ability to TAKE regions and make allies conferred superiority... Yes, they play EVE online. You Goons are more into "Lets make friends because we can't do **** on our own" online.
Jonny JoJo Amarr The Imperial Guards	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:49:00 - [139] Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 03/02/2008 01:49:43 Originally by: Arturus Vex Eh. T2 BPOs are worth far more than 11 billion over the course of months/years (especially pre-invention or before they have even been released). And '11 billion' is only what they were caught with. No one has any idea how many times this happened prior to them being caught. It would make sense if bob had received T2 BPOs prior to this, as they were in fully T2 fit ships long before anyone else. And T2 ships were most of what allowed them to roll over all of the other alliances when they were building their empire. It completely destroys any legitimate greatness that they could have been able to claim. It is a sad fact that regardless of whether or not the regular bob member had any involvement or knowledge of this, they all would have been reaping the benefits. JoJo's law of forum posting. Any argument COAD will eventually result in one party calling the other as bob h4x or bpo spawners. When someone makes such a said post, the thread is over as the posters side have lost. Sig locked, lack of Eve content
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:50:00 - [140] Originally by: Lucas Avignon Someone beating their drum about a dev who abused his power and cheated, that could have been in any alliance but happened to be in BoB, therefore you believe all of BoB are guilty of cheating. Your making pathetic arguments of little consquence and your only goal is to smear bob in some way, to the casual observer your actually achieving the opposite of what your aim is. You must be attention starved or something, but tbh I don't care either way but it's terribly boring to read one or two people drag up the same crap that happened what, one or two years ago now and beat it to death, what nearly everyday since it happened If you were able to read you would have noticed not once did I say all BoB were guilty of cheating, I said all BoB benefited from the cheating, which is simply a fact.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:52:00 - [141] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Neither do i but then as i have already said im not stupid enough to think that such a pitiful ammout could or did change the face of eve and made bob a super power lol lets face it that ammout is about what you would get from a good rat including the loot. People who get that amount from a rat haven't got it through cheating.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 01:53:00 - [142] Originally by: Zorland Yes, they play EVE online. You Goons are more into "Lets make friends because we can't do **** on our own" online. Didn't want those regions and allies anyway, amirite?
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:00:00 - [143] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN Neither do i but then as i have already said im not stupid enough to think that such a pitiful ammout could or did change the face of eve and made bob a super power lol lets face it that ammout is about what you would get from a good rat including the loot. People who get that amount from a rat haven't got it through cheating. 1) Most importantly i nor anybody else has denied that it happened what we say is that it is such an insignificant ammount when measured against a normal days ratting. But you claim it changed the course of eve and that is stupid. 2) Most bob members proly were not aware of it and like i said only a hate freak would want to keep dragging it up like it actual matters to the big picture and using terms like "bob cheats" instead of more acurate terms like "a couple of bob members cheated and the members of bob at that time may have benifited by a couple of million isk or so over a very long period". I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:03:00 - [144] Originally by: Zorland Ah I see, so now, you think they should be accused not only for factual things but also for imaginary things? What if.... Your persecution complex is in full swing. I think I was fairly fair in saying that the whole BPO incident does raise certain reasonable questions relating to the question of why exactly BoB was able to fit T2 ships far before other alliances. I'm not accusing you of anything, just saying that its in the back of everyone's mind. You guys'll get an * in the record books. Quote: I guess it's true, when people want to believe in something they will, and it doesn't matter how stupid that might be. Why don't you just say the real reason why you hate BOB? Do you hate them for something they did to you (or your alliance) in the past? Do you hate them because you lose every fleet fight against them? Or do you hate them becaus they didn't accept your application? You see, reasons like this are acceptable, just stop with "they cheat, they hack" bull****. I don't hate them, there's no reason to hate them. It's an internet spaceship game. If being skeptical of their self proclaimed 'greatness' because one of their members was caught actively cheating in coordination with a dev is hate, then ya. But that's a bizzare definition of hate. Other than that, they have some really nice space, and I'd be happy to have some of it. ;)
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:05:00 - [145] Originally by: Jonny JoJo Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 03/02/2008 01:49:43 Originally by: Arturus Vex Eh. T2 BPOs are worth far more than 11 billion over the course of months/years (especially pre-invention or before they have even been released). And '11 billion' is only what they were caught with. No one has any idea how many times this happened prior to them being caught. It would make sense if bob had received T2 BPOs prior to this, as they were in fully T2 fit ships long before anyone else. And T2 ships were most of what allowed them to roll over all of the other alliances when they were building their empire. It completely destroys any legitimate greatness that they could have been able to claim. It is a sad fact that regardless of whether or not the regular bob member had any involvement or knowledge of this, they all would have been reaping the benefits. JoJo's law of forum posting. Any argument COAD will eventually result in one party calling the other as bob h4x or bpo spawners. When someone makes such a said post, the thread is over as the posters side have lost. In that case, it was over 2 or 3 pages before my post.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:07:00 - [146] Originally by: HEY LISTEN 1) Most importantly i nor anybody else has denied that it happened what we say is that it is such an insignificant ammount when measured against a normal days ratting. But you claim it changed the course of eve and that is stupid. 2) Most bob members proly were not aware of it and like i said only a hate freak would want to keep dragging it up like it actual matters to the big picture and using terms like "bob cheats" instead of more acurate terms like "a couple of bob members cheated and the members of bob at that time may have benifited by a couple of million isk or so over a very long period". So you're saying 'insignificant' cheating is fine and shouldn't be punished, only 'significant' cheating is bad and should be punished?
Murina Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:08:00 - [147] Personaly i think that most of the leadership in bob has bought new pilots with all the isk they made and is now leading goons and the coalition fleet against itself while making a huge profit from a the ship ans module replacements. HEY LISTEN is my hero not my alt.
Dagam GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:10:00 - [148] If BoB was really against cheating they would have reacted differently than hurling insults at the cause of the exposure and denigrating their side of the argument. Hence they don't care so much about cheating itself, as the consequences for being caught for it.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:11:00 - [149] Originally by: Arturus Vex Your persecution complex is in full swing. I think I was fairly fair in saying that the whole BPO incident does raise certain reasonable questions relating to the question of why exactly BoB was able to fit T2 ships far before other alliances. Beacuse they are better then you? Most of the Goons still can't use tech 2 modules and ships, so what does that say about BOB?
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:12:00 - [150] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 02:15:25 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN 1) Most importantly i nor anybody else has denied that it happened what we say is that it is such an insignificant ammount when measured against a normal days ratting. But you claim it changed the course of eve and that is stupid. 2) Most bob members proly were not aware of it and like i said only a hate freak would want to keep dragging it up like it actual matters to the big picture and using terms like "bob cheats" instead of more acurate terms like "a couple of bob members cheated and the members of bob at that time may have benifited by a couple of million isk or so over a very long period". So you're saying 'insignificant' cheating is fine and shouldn't be punished, only 'significant' cheating is bad and should be punished? No my points are clear (point 2) to see, your just avoiding them. But i do think the individuals directly involved should be punished accordingly but i do not think the alliance or unknowing members should be considered guilty of any crime what so ever unless they knowingly involved themselves and directly and perposely helped in the crime so to benifit from it. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:15:00 - [151] Edited by: Don Z0LA on 03/02/2008 02:15:29 Originally by: Zorland Originally by: Arturus Vex Yvarious posts everyone hail the king of bob alts. im pretty sure bob leadership priority atm is to find who is your main to kick it out, since your posting makes more harm then use. not just with enemies, but im sure like half of your alliance is being ashamed for having you among them. i dont often offend people but you sir, are idiot. even when we pointed you to your mistakes in other topics and the facts you are missing, you still have your psycho idea in your mind and you are completely wrong. sir, you fail miserably at eve politics and forum posting. edit: but dont get me wrong, please keep posting, your posts make me lol all the time :D
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:19:00 - [152] Originally by: HEY LISTEN No my points are clear (point 2) to see, your just avoiding them. But i do think the individuals directly involved should be punished accordingly but i do not think the alliance or unknowing members should be considered guilty of any crime what so ever unless they knowingly involved themselves. Neither am I saying that those who had no knowledge should be punished. Certain top level BoB guys knew it was a dev who was giving them the bpo and how he got it. The alliance wallet itself was never reduced to the value of the benefit (it was an alliance held asset so it was only appropriate), and neither were the guys who took in full knowledge and the guy who gave in full knowledge punished in any serious manner. That's the fundamental problem. Everyone else who exploits or cheats gets punished, but an exception was made in this case.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:22:00 - [153] Originally by: Don Z0LA Edited by: Don Z0LA on 03/02/2008 02:15:50 Originally by: Zorland various posts everyone hail the king of bob alts. im pretty sure bob leadership priority atm is to find who is your main to kick it out, since your posting makes more harm then use. not just with enemies, but im sure like half of your alliance is being ashamed for having you among them. i dont often offend people but you sir, are idiot. even when we pointed you to your mistakes in other topics and the facts you are missing, you still have your psycho idea in your mind and you are completely wrong. sir, you fail miserably at eve politics and forum posting. edit: but dont get me wrong, please keep posting, your posts make me lol all the time :D That burns.... Well thank you, I enjoy your hate almost as much as Goon hate. You people know how to do it right. BOB leadership can't kick me out as I am not and never was in any kind of relationship with BOB other then losing 1 Arazu to BOB gate camp on one of my characters long time ago.
Arturus Vex Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:23:00 - [154] Edited by: Arturus Vex on 03/02/2008 02:23:44 Originally by: Zorland Most of the Goons still can't use tech 2 modules and ships, so what does that say about BOB? That they can no longer beat a bunch of month old goons with T1 ships and modules? ;)
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:24:00 - [155] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 02:25:53 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN No my points are clear (point 2) to see, your just avoiding them. But i do think the individuals directly involved should be punished accordingly but i do not think the alliance or unknowing members should be considered guilty of any crime what so ever unless they knowingly involved themselves. Neither am I saying that those who had no knowledge should be punished. Certain top level BoB guys knew it was a dev who was giving them the bpo and how he got it. The alliance wallet itself was never reduced to the value of the benefit (it was an alliance held asset so it was only appropriate), and neither were the guys who took in full knowledge and the guy who gave in full knowledge punished in any serious manner. That's the fundamental problem. Everyone else who exploits or cheats gets punished, but an exception was made in this case. Then if your so into justice i suggest in future that you name the individuals instead of using broad terms and the alliance name as you are tarring several thousand innocent individuals with a brush they do not deserve some of witch were not even in said alliance at the time. If justice is as important to you as you claim of course and your not just spewing out the usual litany of anti-bob propoganda. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Don Z0LA Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:26:00 - [156] Originally by: Zorland Originally by: Don Z0LA Edited by: Don Z0LA on 03/02/2008 02:15:50 Originally by: Zorland various posts everyone hail the king of bob alts. im pretty sure bob leadership priority atm is to find who is your main to kick it out, since your posting makes more harm then use. not just with enemies, but im sure like half of your alliance is being ashamed for having you among them. i dont often offend people but you sir, are idiot. even when we pointed you to your mistakes in other topics and the facts you are missing, you still have your psycho idea in your mind and you are completely wrong. sir, you fail miserably at eve politics and forum posting. edit: but dont get me wrong, please keep posting, your posts make me lol all the time :D That burns.... Well thank you, I enjoy your hate almost as much as Goon hate. You people know how to do it right. BOB leadership can't kick me out as I am not and never was in any kind of relationship with BOB other then losing 1 Arazu to BOB gate camp on one of my characters long time ago. you got me totally wrong, i dont hate you at all.
Admiral Seafort DarkStar 1	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:28:00 - [157] This is the worst thread. Some of the posters ought to be spokespersons for the Bush administration. In fact, maybe they are: Originally by: George W. Bush An artificial timetable of withdrawal would say to an enemy, 'just wait them out.' It would say to the Iraqis, 'Don't do hard things necessary to achieve our objectives.' And it would be discouraging for our troops Originally by: TWD Artificial timetables of accomplishing that set out goal would be a mistake. An artifical [sic] timetable would say to an enemy, just wait them out; it would say to the goons, don't do hard things necessary to achieve our objectives; and it would be discouraging for our troops. As it has been stated, BoB can never lose. When the "pendulum" propaganda line was introduced, BoB's objectives were offensive. As the momentum of the conflict shifted westward, BoB has continually and repeatedly restated its objectives so that at that moment, its goals were defined such that it was not losing. By consolidating in Delve, BoB does not concede that RSF has made significant and material gains in its offensive; rather, BoB is now in an ideal position because "we didn't want that region anyway." There's no point in arguing about who is winning or losing. BoB is never losing. If they are driven out of Delve, they will have gained "freedom" and, without the constraints of holding space, have an even greater ability to strike at their opponents without the strain of maintaining POS's and sovereignty. Of course then it will become BoB's "plan all along" to do this. As such, even losing outright can be construed as winning. BoB is incapable of losing. They are better than you. ----- It is well that war is so terrible. We should grow too fond of it.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:31:00 - [158] Edited by: Zorland on 03/02/2008 02:34:26 Originally by: HEY LISTEN Then if your so into justice i suggest in future that you name the individuals instead of using broad terms and the alliance name as you are tarring several thousand innocent individuals with a brush they do not deserve some of witch were not even in said alliance at the time. If justice is as important to you as you claim of course. It is not justice that he is after. This Goon alt is looking for a banner that will unite and offer a reason to the mob, to exist and unite against BOB, Goons mortal enemy. Instead of dealing with BOB on their own, Goons know they have no chance, and therefor, they need something that will interest more pilots in EVE to join this lynch. That is the reason why he is so fiercly fighting to prove how bad,bad cheaters and hackers BOB members are.
Exioce Gallente Trisomy 21	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:38:00 - [159] Originally by: HEY LISTEN Then if your so into justice i suggest in future that you name the individuals instead of using broad terms and the alliance name as you are tarring several thousand innocent individuals with a brush they do not deserve some of witch were not even in said alliance at the time. If justice is as important to you as you claim of course. The individuals are known to CCP from logs that were released on a particular site when this all first came out, and they're still around. I won't post the logs or give the specific names but suffice to say one of those in the know committed capital suicide recently, and another has a name that sound a bit... diabolical, shall we say. Others knew about the bpo's being given, but I'm not certain if they were high enough to know who exactly was giving it to them.
HEY LISTEN i swear this is true	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:44:00 - [160] Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 03/02/2008 02:44:41 Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN Then if your so into justice i suggest in future that you name the individuals instead of using broad terms and the alliance name as you are tarring several thousand innocent individuals with a brush they do not deserve some of witch were not even in said alliance at the time. If justice is as important to you as you claim of course. The individuals are known to CCP from logs that were released on a particular site when this all first came out, and they're still around. I won't post the logs or give the specific names but suffice to say one of those in the know committed capital suicide recently, and another has a name that sound a bit... diabolical, shall we say. Others knew about the bpo's being given, but I'm not certain if they were high enough to know who exactly was giving it to them. Theres no need to blame innocent alliance members any more with broadly worded posts about it then is there. If you feel so strongly about it post it on the correct forum, on here its just propoganda, maybe the crime and punishment section would be better or perhaps even send in a petition to ccp for bob to give back 11 bil from its wallet. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! Free marakor unjustly imprisoned (banned) i miss his posts.
Zorland Minmatar Detinus Republic	Posted - 2008.02.03 02:46:00 - [161] Originally by: Exioce Originally by: HEY LISTEN Then if your so into justice i suggest in future that you name the individuals instead of using broad terms and the alliance name as you are tarring several thousand innocent individuals with a brush they do not deserve some of witch were not even in said alliance at the time. If justice is as important to you as you claim of course. The individuals are known to CCP from logs that were released on a particular site when this all first came out, and they're still around. I won't post the logs or give the specific names but suffice to say one of those in the know committed capital suicide recently, and another has a name that sound a bit... diabolical, shall we say. Others knew about the bpo's being given, but I'm not certain if they were high enough to know who exactly was giving it to them. And why should anything posted anywhere but on CCP site be trusted as genuine and not doctored? To me, CCP said what they had to say about the whole case after the investigation was over. An since this is a game owned by CCP, I'm sure they did whatever was the best for the game. And I do care about this game. We all already know how you (Goons) tried to destroy CCPs reputation all over the Internet. So as far as I am concerned, I will always believe in what CCP said, not you or any other external site.

CCP Mitnal	Posted - 2008.02.03 04:14:00 - [162] Locked Drifted a little off-topic. Mitnal, Community Representative EVE Online CCP Games Email/Netfang


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