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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Elijah Hoping for a fight in empire, where Smash no longer had the advantage of their allies and/or carrier spasm but we can dock up quickly just in case we still dont have the advantage
completed your sentence. Don't bite off more than you can chew and stick to fighting other corps or alliances that are maybe a little more on your level. _______________________
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Dez Affinity
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:21:00 -
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Wait you are saying that the lag CONCORD caused stopped you from winning? Do you not believe that both sides suffer from lag? Do you not believe CONCORD EEEEEEENSTAPOP with great vengeance and furious anger those who commit a crime?
Sorry dude I'm not buying it.
There was a SMASHKILL gang already around when someone said 'oh look smash wts in airaken', so they took the gang there, there was 'accidents'.
Oh and MAH K/D RATIO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO _______________
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:32:00 -
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Wardec Roadkill too. Problem solved.
Your mistake is simply in assuming that they aren't going to help each other just because you only wardec'd one of them.
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Elijah
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: Elijah on 03/02/2008 18:39:08
Originally by: Porgy
Originally by: Elijah Hoping for a fight in empire, where Smash no longer had the advantage of their allies and/or carrier spasm but we can dock up quickly just in case we still dont have the advantage
completed your sentence. Don't bite off more than you can chew and stick to fighting other corps or alliances that are maybe a little more on your level.
Lol yeah we really ran away and docked last night, admittedly im not going to have 5 of us engage 20 odd, but last night we knew the odds and stood our ground.
We are just miffed that every time we engage you 1 of your lot agro concord, last night in our logs we counted 4 RK members. Are they really that bad with their overview settings? If that is the case I retract my statement and apologize.
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Trass
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Wardec Roadkill too. Problem solved.
Your mistake is simply in assuming that they aren't going to help each other just because you only wardec'd one of them.
Well its not quite as it is. We wardeced rk before and it was simmilar like now with their closest allies. I myself was in smashkill pet corp one year ago and i saw their 'tactics'.
Topic is a relation from small battle, nothing more. Besides this forum shouldnt be only about "great" war bob vs rsf so there is it.
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Porgy
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:49:00 -
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Originally by: Elijah admittedly im not going to have 5 of us engage 20 odd,
then you chose the wrong group to dec. Its not like we sit around, sort, and divvy out proper portions of pilots to go engage people. We have an intel channel where people report when they see hostiles (yourselves) and anybody who cares to (and often times this can equal a blob since we are starving for pew pew) can x up and run the hostile down. If you think out of a conjoined Smash/Atlas/Chaos/Kill player pool you are going to only see 5 of us come meet your 5 then you are delusional and need to go find a much smaller entity to dec. Have a nice day. _______________________
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Lottie
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Trass
Difference is that we're not running away when we know that we all probably die, almost everytime we are outnumbered and thats a normal thing for us.
Originally by: Elijah
Lol yeah we really ran away and docked last night, admittedly im not going to have 5 of us engage 20 odd
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Stoned Runner
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lottie
Originally by: Trass
Difference is that we're not running away when we know that we all probably die, almost everytime we are outnumbered and thats a normal thing for us.
Originally by: Elijah
Lol yeah we really ran away and docked last night, admittedly im not going to have 5 of us engage 20 odd
i quote dis... never gonna run but eventually you ran way out ! Less Is More |
Pinza
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Elijah During the course of the war, we [Personal Vendetta] have attempted to provoke Smash into bringing it. Needless to say hit and run tactics in Bwf and the surrounding low sec systems, were met by a combination of Smash and Roadkill ships. At this point I hasten to add we were only at war with Smash alliance.
Hoping for a fight in empire, where Smash no longer had the advantage of their allies and/or carrier spasm; we formed up with 11 bs along with 2-3 support ships on the Oijanen gate in Airaken (a 0.5 system). Around 22:30 eve time we received reports of around 30 odd Smash as well as multiple Roadkill jumping into Oijanen (estimated numbers were around 50 Smashkill in total of mixed Bs and support.)
It was looking like all our attempts at provoking Smash had worked as they formed up on the other side of our gate. Minute’s later local outside bumped from 70 to 130+, as both the Smash and Roadkill gang jumped in. Primaries were called, and the fight was going in our favor, even with R0adkill repping the smash ships, things went against us when the R0adkill gang decided to join in. As had happened twice previously, Roadkill ships aggressed our gang which brought Concord and completely lagged what had been previously lag free. The battle quickly turned into a slide show and PV started to take multiple losses, and Smash managed to take the field. In our minds there is no doubt that Smash’s plan all along was to have Roadkill aggress in order to bring in Concord and completely lag up the fight, thus insuring Smash could use their numerical advantage to force us to retreat.
Total Kills:Losses
BS: 6:6 CS: 1:1 Has: 1:1 Recon 0:2 Bc: 2:0 Dictor 1:0 Cruiser 3:0 Total 14:10
Congrats Smash and thanks for the fight pity you couldn’t win it without R0adkill holding your hands. shall we say same time tonight? but without concord =)
http://smash-alliance.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=28713
Sure about that whole RK triggering Concord thing?
PS. Get more people and fight us in actual pvp space so you don't tear about the lag.
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Eventus
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:28:00 -
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So your saying that concord won the fight for us. Not us breaking your remote rep tanks and killing you. I personally got on 2 Battleship killmails before going down adding enough dps to break the 2 large remote reps one of your bs had on another. I recieved no remote rep. After the fight my corp arranged another gang as we wanted some more pvp, as soon as we jump to air, you guys ran to new caldari and began logging. If you hadnt noticed this is EVE finding fair fights happens sometimes but not very often.
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CiNi
Daiwa.
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering Wardec Roadkill too. Problem solved.
Your mistake is simply in assuming that they aren't going to help each other just because you only wardec'd one of them.
This
Hi PV <3
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 03/02/2008 21:41:27
Quote: Total 14:10
lol
much ado about nothing ------
Tides of Silence |
The Comatorium
The Ghazi
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: The Comatorium on 03/02/2008 22:02:37 Doesnt SMASH have a 300 man fleet or so with POS spammin Triumvirates space... or was it just one of their "we can do it but it means we cant get drunk tonite" operations... like helping Ronin kick a bunch of Industrial corps out of outer Rings with a 60 man fleet and leaving 1 by 1 the day after without any fights.
or maybe... they are so threatened by PV! oh i get it now... Nevermind! ------------------------- Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, For you never know wich one will strike you in the back. |
Anikadir
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Trass I myself was in smashkill pet corp one year ago and i saw their 'tactics'.
We have "pets"??
Can I ask for one of those nasty little siamese cats (the bald ones with the ebil eyes) then? I can then fire it at my foe when I run out of missiles :D
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Funky Feeling
Ventis Secundis R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:52:00 -
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We won simply because when one of the newer guys brought in Concord.. I blew the buggers up in my doomsday osprey.
tsk tsk.. whine because the game mechanics got in the way of a horribly bad plan.
next time.. jump where concord can't screw you.
Now excuse me... I have to go see my concord parole officer.
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Chr0nosX
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.04 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Chr0nosX on 04/02/2008 00:10:43
Originally by: Elijah In our minds there is no doubt that SmashÆs plan all along was to have Roadkill aggress in order to bring in Concord and completely lag up the fight, thus insuring Smash could use their numerical advantage to force us to retreat.
Ermm no. It was just RK nubs shooting. If the point was to lag up the fight I don't think they would of aggressed in battleships. Anyway if you don't like concord - maybe come out of Hisec into BWF in force. Im actually suprised how well it went for SMASH (I think RK repping helped a lot) seeing as it was just a mix and match gang against a BS spider tanking gang.
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EvilChipmunk
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Posted - 2008.02.04 00:56:00 -
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you really dont get roadsmash, when smash is loosing a fight, they dont say "oh no, we need to call in rk", because it is rare that there is a 100% smash gang. The primary channel for xing up is shared, hence gangs are mixed
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 01:24:00 -
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Smash and rk have 2 seperate names because of the way we came to geminate. the corps in rk left chimera pact and created roadkill. we left xzh and goon war with d2 to take a chunk of our own space. we headed to old space we knew of as we help vale stations for a time. we show up see scooter1 in local. next day ratel drops outpost we told them not to. we decided years of fighting eachother as smash and stain. then working with each other vs g and iron azn invasion. Made the simple a single alliance with 2 names. 4 leaders at the top with 2 figure heads. as you have it today Peoke and scooter1, we wont be divided as we took our homes and defended them. as for a fight head in deeper then bwf, i dont give a crap about campers there.
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Lorq vonRay
Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 02:22:00 -
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read this i laughed, i cried
then i forgot y this matters at all
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: *****zilla on 04/02/2008 04:24:24
Originally by: Elijah ...lot agro concord, ... bad with their overview settings...
Many of us rarely visit Empire. It isn't unusual to go a few months without leaving 0.0. Low sec is more common, but even then there isn't any worry about Concord.
Spend that much time shooting anything not blue and its a natural reaction in empire. I sincerely doubt that more than a few have empire specific overview settings because its more likely a major patch will be released that nukes the settings before the overview is even used again.
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Calypso's Wrath
Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.02.04 06:09:00 -
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Any of you people who think its dumb for a small corp to War dec a 00 alliance don't know what your missing. As BWL may have been a minor annoyance to the likes of Smash/RK, CVA, or Ka-tet they sure as hell know who we are. I don't know ONE 0.0 alliance that can keep a positive ratio vs a small gurilla Corp raiding against them.
Good on you, Personal Vendetta. Keep up the fight.
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FinrodFelagund
Rome Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.02.04 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Calypso's Wrath Any of you people who think its dumb for a small corp to War dec a 00 alliance don't know what your missing. As BWL may have been a minor annoyance to the likes of Smash/RK, CVA, or Ka-tet they sure as hell know who we are. I don't know ONE 0.0 alliance that can keep a positive ratio vs a small gurilla Corp raiding against them.
Good on you, Personal Vendetta. Keep up the fight.
The deccing is not dumb! It's the smack and complaints about blobbing that most of these corps do that is.
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Lprezidente
Minmatar Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.02.04 09:26:00 -
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It is blatently obvious that not many of you have actually taken in what the OP said.
We are in no way whining about the numbers that were brought in, we have lived in the area long enough to know that the Smash guys and RK guys are pretty much a whole unit, that tends to go without saying and good luck to them.
The whole point of this was to outline the fact that even though they outnumbered us at least 2 - 1 they still felt the need to drag concord in to the fight knowing full well what effect this would have on the system and also knowing full well that this would take out the effectiveness of the PV gang.
We are a small corp and as such nearly always end up fighting outnumbered and this is not an issue in any way shape or form. but, when we take on a much bigger force and start whittling them down, due to us being organised and not dependent on numbers then it is a shame.
And as for us running, I am quite sure that no FC worth his salt would put his gang out to fight something he didnt think he had even a slim chance of walking away from.
We regrouped and if i recall correctly came back to nail another on the gate.
I seem to recall a convo in airaken local last night between a Smash / RK (apologies as i cant recall which alliance the member was from) and a TRI guy, the Smashkill guy was saying that TRI only come into BWF with nano gangs and smack, smack, smack.
10 mins later a 9 man TRI BS gang drops in to BWF and the Smash/RK blob disperesed immediately.
So you gents can flame all you like as you are the worst culprits.
But all said, its a game and we all try to enjoy it.
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 09:57:00 -
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Are you just trying to justify the contract?
Keep in mind we jumped into a system where you guys had the grids loaded already. You had the benefit from the lag for the first bit.
I got on like 5 kill mails with a Blackbird, including a Falcon that I was able to jam up. Skills?
Your corp is 20 odd strong and you dec a large alliance like Smash, then complain about being outnumbered?
You seem to find excuses for everything you do wrong. 2 days prior, when a Vagabond and Deimos couldn't pin down my Thorax, you accused me of having stabs fitted, whilst I had for some silly reason only had one ECM fitted. With 7 of you in system, you were still unable to kill me, even when I jumped into your gate camp.
If you suck at being merc's, go mine.
To your client, money wasted. I won't hire these guys again tbh.
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Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:05:00 -
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Keep smacking smash makes you guys look oh so great, funny how its always you guys that smack in local when we pop you.
And who said anything about it being a contract?
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:12:00 -
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Stating the fatcs is not smacking.
Anyways, can PV please stop noobs from posting. The skilled, mature players are trying to enjoy the game.
If there is no contract and you're funding this yourselves, follow my advice, go mine.
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Talpa Iute
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:17:00 -
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Lol one has to enjoy the smashkill smackmachine at work, start a thread about an engagement and they'll sure as hell lay the smacketh on ya.
Give them hell Eli and the gang
/Talpa
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Lprezidente
Minmatar Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Lprezidente on 04/02/2008 10:22:22 Edited by: Lprezidente on 04/02/2008 10:21:09
Originally by: Ventro69
Your corp is 20 odd strong and you dec a large alliance like Smash, then complain about being outnumbered?
You obviously cant read, why don't you get on with your remedial english lesson. i did state that we are not complaining about being outnumbered as we always are due to the size of the corp.
We are not on contract either.
We did nothing wrong, you are the tards that brought in concord not us.
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Ventro69
Caldari Manson Family SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:30:00 -
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Was it **** Van patten or Kiekegaard who said, "wtf"?
"You obviously cant read, why don't you get on with your remedial english lesson. i did state..."
I must go for English lessons? How about you start using a capital letter here and there? Anyways, we do have a station for kids who cun't read good, guess I'll go dock...
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.04 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ventro69
To your client, money wasted. I would hire these guys again tbh.
Fixed the typo.
+++++would buy again.
Originally by: Iva Soreass Keep smacking smash
/me tips hat.
Will do. We smack everyone. Including each other. If you count an explanation of common sense "smack".
What we do try to do is have fun and not make that many excuses. We don't mind losing ships. We don't hold k/d ratios in very high regard.
Very amusing to be in a gang where the members are demanding that the FC suicide the fleet on the off chance of a few kills *grin*.
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