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TeufelsBeitrag Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 11:35:00 - [61] Originally by: Lprezidente We did nothing wrong, you are the tards that brought in concord not us. Everytime you repeat this, it gets a bit more funny. =D
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.02.04 11:41:00 - [62] Say what you will about SmashKill, but they are good at degenerating situations and assuring smack all around them. That's a + in my book
Plaetean Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.02.04 11:42:00 - [63] Originally by: FinrodFelagund Originally by: Calypso's Wrath Any of you people who think its dumb for a small corp to War dec a 00 alliance don't know what your missing. As BWL may have been a minor annoyance to the likes of Smash/RK, CVA, or Ka-tet they sure as hell know who we are. I don't know ONE 0.0 alliance that can keep a positive ratio vs a small gurilla Corp raiding against them. Good on you, Personal Vendetta. Keep up the fight. The deccing is not dumb! It's the smack and complaints about blobbing that most of these corps do that is. Not once are they whining about the numbers smashkill bring, just like smashkill shouldn't whine when PV don't engage. Neither corps have any obligation to engage/bring small gangs/whatever to each other. The issue is with (either through complete and utter ******ness or it being intentional) RK pilots consistently concording themselves and getting the whole grid lagged to **, making fights impossible. -----
Felax Thurin Pegasus Mining and Securities	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:03:00 - [64] We brought CONCORD - are you guys serious. To get this right - we were so scared of you winning we killed ourselves? Stay off the drugs
misscoda Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 12:29:00 - [65] PV: ZOMG Smash called reinforcements PV: Let's whine about it on CAOD! PV: ZOMG Smash, you called in R0ADKILL and CONCORD. You can't win without them holding your hands! SMASH: Smack! PV: ZOMG you smacked! SMASH: Bite me nub PV: Everyone, now you see what honorless blobbers they are! We did nothing wrong! EVERYONE: Quit whining nubs, you got SACK'd. Should get your intel straight. Bottomline: dont get mad on the forums, get even ingame.
TalanR Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.02.04 13:44:00 - [66] Edited by: TalanR on 04/02/2008 13:46:24 IÆll try to explain it as simple as I can. GOOD - a gang thatÆs more the double our size - using a friendly corp. for logistics BAD - Shooting concord so the whole grid gets lagged out First few times I would have believed that it wasnÆt done on purpose but it has happened to many times now to be accidental. Although I donÆt agree with their tactics I still enjoyed the first part of the fight before the powerpoint presentation. I would say: All is fair in love and war. But also every action as a reaction. Eve is about being able to adapt to changes in the game. In this case it just means that we need to rethink our tactics to prevent this from happening in the future. This topic was created with only one purpose and that was to address one tactic that was used in the last big engagement. That tactic was lagging out the grid by use of concord. Still credits to smashkill for bringing us a fight. It's better than having no fights at all TalanR
Lprezidente Minmatar Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:32:00 - [67] Originally by: TalanR Edited by: TalanR on 04/02/2008 13:46:24 BAD - Shooting concord so the whole grid gets lagged out But also every action as a reaction. Eve is about being able to adapt to changes in the game. In this case it just means that we need to rethink our tactics to prevent this from happening in the future. Still credits to smashkill for bringing us a fight. It's better than having no fights at all Agree on all counts there, and to those that wander why a small corp would dec a large alliance (and friends) it is plain and simple, you are always guaranteed a fight of some description.
Reax Grim Final Conflict UK SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 14:54:00 - [68] this is a simple fix.. why even bother to fight in empire. drag urselfs out to 0.0 and then thers no concord to get in the way.
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Reax Grim this is a simple fix.. why even bother to fight in empire. drag urselfs out to 0.0 and then thers no concord to get in the way. Here's a clue, Cyno Jammers and Jump Bridges! I know, you want to fight with all the cards stacked in your favour...makes being awesome alot easier...a war dec forces fights away from your strengths. If you don't like it, stay in 0.0, and pretend only 'real pvp' happens under the warm skirt of cyno jammers and jump bridges...
Dez Affinity Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:37:00 - [70] Originally by: Lprezidente Edited by: Lprezidente on 04/02/2008 10:28:31 You obviously cant read, why don't you get on with your remedial learning lesson. i did state that we are not complaining about being outnumbered as we always are due to the size of the corp. We are not on contract either. We did nothing wrong, you are the tards that brought in concord not us. Your smack is weak and so is your logic. Originally by: Plaetean Not once are they whining about the numbers smashkill bring, just like smashkill shouldn't whine when PV don't engage. Neither corps have any obligation to engage/bring small gangs/whatever to each other. The issue is with (either through complete and utter ******ness or it being intentional) RK pilots consistently concording themselves and getting the whole grid lagged to , making fights impossible. As someone said previously, some people never leave 0.0 and when they jump into high sec and hear primaries called they simply forget, you get over it though, both sides get lag, not just one. You're right abotu your first statement but everyone gets frustrated when they don't get a fight. Originally by:** TalanR First few times I would have believed that it wasnÆt done on purpose but it has happened to many times now to be accidental. Although I donÆt agree with their tactics I still enjoyed the first part of the fight before the powerpoint presentation. Fight in Oijanen instead Originally by: Wesley Baird Here's a clue, Cyno Jammers and Jump Bridges! I know, you want to fight with all the cards stacked in your favour...makes being awesome alot easier...a war dec forces fights away from your strengths. If you don't like it, stay in 0.0, and pretend only 'real pvp' happens under the warm skirt of cyno jammers and jump bridges... Bevel and Emboss, DO NOT WANT. (In reference to your signature =]) _______________
sharkyballs Amarr Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:48:00 - [71] /me posting in an honor tanking thread
Crackzilla The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 15:57:00 - [72] Originally by: Wesley Baird ...you want to fight with all the cards stacked in your favour... This from tri? But now that you mention it VFK-IV was mighty comfortable. Originally by: Wesley Baird ...a war dec forces fights away from your strengths... Thats the point. A war dec forces nothing. Its rather unusual for a large alliance close to empire to be not in constant war decs. Unless someone posts in COAD most have no clue who the war decs are. Our responses have mostly to help them get fights from us. We're not the ones whining about fights. Originally by: Wesley Baird ...stay in 0.0, and ... 'real pvp' happens ... Fixed. Much easier than dealing with multiple war decs, multiple alliances, and all those blinking red and having to deal with security status.
Nizar Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Wesley Baird Originally by: Reax Grim this is a simple fix.. why even bother to fight in empire. drag urselfs out to 0.0 and then thers no concord to get in the way. Here's a clue, Cyno Jammers and Jump Bridges! I know, you want to fight with all the cards stacked in your favour...makes being awesome alot easier...a war dec forces fights away from your strengths. If you don't like it, stay in 0.0, and pretend only 'real pvp' happens under the warm skirt of cyno jammers and jump bridges... well, pvp under the "warm skirt" of empire stations isnt very noble either...
Reax Grim Final Conflict UK SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:27:00 - [74] @Wesley Baird i remember sitten above tri hard station for hours making a giant GF out of our ships while all of the tri sat in a station... so its nothing todo with sitten in our own space ;) (cant find the image we took but sure someone has it) just find PV laughable.... wardec one part of SACK and expect the rest to watch. then moan on the forums about concord when they dont bother to come to our space after wardecing "us" and expect us to go to them...
MrTriggerHappy Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 16:41:00 - [75] Edited by: MrTriggerHappy on 04/02/2008 16:41:17 Originally by: FinrodFelagund Perhaps its time to institute slashdots infamous... "You're new here arn't you." Roadkill and smash are not seperate alliances, anyone whos ever been aroudn them for >5 minutes can realize that they are the same enity. I've gotta say with every new merc nub corp making a NAST and complaining they are getting blobbed, my respect for MDK goes up. IIRC they wardecced both they did their gank thing, said look at our insane kill death ratio and went on their way, don't remember them complaining about blobs either. (but my memory is fuzzy) GL with your quest for respect PV. But ganking smash and complaining about being blobbed by smashkill only makes you guys look like complete nubs. From the sound of it youre not even in it for the pure griefing of hauler ganking and gate camping bwf while smashkill is busy with something else... If you want good fights why dont you wardec an alliance or corp your size and then sit in their home system for 24 hours. Hands Finrod some Bree His post is spot on! Anyway PV... Basically your whine post is pointless, you war dec smash and dont go beyond BWF.. go deeper into geminate then you deserve to whine (you would also save yourself some war dec iskies). -------------------------------- My Comments in no way reflect my corp or alliance
Wesley Baird D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.02.04 17:57:00 - [76] Originally by: Nizar well, pvp under the "warm skirt" of empire stations isnt very noble either... On this I agree...most pvp isn't very noble as most everyone seeks a clear advantage before they engage. Sadly those willing to fight without a clear advantage are in the minority. To be fair, there are FC's in Roadkill who will engage without having clear odds in their favour...I don't know about Smash, as frankly despite fighting them for 3 weeks, I only ever saw them fight under Roadkill FC's...
The Comatorium The Ghazi	Posted - 2008.02.04 18:35:00 - [77] Who the F are Personal Vendetta? Why does smash always get the drama with those nowhere people. ------------------------- Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, For you never know wich one will strike you in the back.
Plaetean Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2008.02.04 18:41:00 - [78] Originally by: The Comatorium Who the F are Personal Vendetta? Why does smash always get the drama with those nowhere people. Who the F are you? -----
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 18:57:00 - [79] Originally by: Trass To get a bit of attention we was flying around in group in Oijj, BWF, 8MG etc. In 0.0 systems which they temporary clamed we was outnumbered 3-4:1 taking local. We was waiting, waiting, and ... waiting. Its really disapointing when two our pilots jumping into 8MG, and suddenly whole bunch of smash/rk guys insta running away to their outpost. Well yes thats probably normal way of play for them, anyway still no fight... So we decide to stay in one very visible place in Airaken (gate Oijj) because it could be a bit to hard for smash guys to locate 1x man gang flying on one of three systems, really... With little help from RK they 'find' us in Airaken, staying and waiting. Few times a recon/cops decloaked >100k from gate. Some smack talk like smash is invincible, and that we better run away and things like that. Well it doesnt help at all (sorry guys) and we was still waiting for them. After some time, they came and fight was started. Like my corpmates write before, when smash saw that they not winning (outnumbered us didnt help much), more their allies jumped and they start laghell with concord, drones etc. We was having scouts in two system ahead, and we know about blob before fight was started. Difference is that we're not running away when we know that we all probably die, almost everytime we are outnumbered and thats a normal thing for us. Anyway we are a small corp - yes, so small engagement too, but we didnt join this corp to run away, but to fight, and thats what we doing. Well truth is that (sorry for that) coward smash can't win without blobing (simmilar to RK their allies). They cant win fight in hi sec for example 10 vs 10 and they know that. Thats nothing new, they are like they are and thats probably wont change. BTW if someone want great KB ratio, really... join BoB, and engage only when you know that you will win without probs, and/or press self destruct if something goes wrong (no offence to BoB fans). Ok and if you was outnumber 100 to 1 how come your corp mate said only 5 rk was there if your going to post crap please stay with your statement from the op. P.S welcome to EvE whoever you are

CCP Saint C C P	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:01:00 - [80] There is a lot of trolling going on in this thread. Please get back on topic or it will be locked. Saint Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang

Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:04:00 - [81] Originally by: Lprezidente Originally by: TalanR Edited by: TalanR on 04/02/2008 13:46:24 BAD - Shooting concord so the whole grid gets lagged out But also every action as a reaction. Eve is about being able to adapt to changes in the game. In this case it just means that we need to rethink our tactics to prevent this from happening in the future. Still credits to smashkill for bringing us a fight. It's better than having no fights at all Agree on all counts there, and to those that wander why a small corp would dec a large alliance (and friends) it is plain and simple, you are always guaranteed a fight of some description. KK back on topic take the fight into low sec so you can get SACK love instead?
ZenTex Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:06:00 - [82] Damnit! the OP is onto us! The truth is out guys, lets admit it. Yes, it's true, we can call Concord for help anytime we need them. Really. C'mon. Getting our pilots to suicide to lag you out? ROFL. Seriously, what were you smoking man. There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
Elijah Personal Vendetta	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:13:00 - [83] [ 2008.02.02 22:31:19 ] (notify) RK Member: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2008.02.02 22:31:20 ] (notify) RK Member: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2008.02.02 22:31:28 ] (notify) RK Member: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2008.02.02 22:32:43 ] (notify) RK Member: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. Names removed for obvious reasons, getting bored of this now TBH, Cya out there
TeufelsBeitrag Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.02.04 19:31:00 - [84] [ 2008.02.02 22:31:19 ] (notify) Elijah: You have foolishly engaged in hostile activity within sight of Roadkill and must suffer the lagsploits.
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires Rare Faction	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:08:00 - [85] Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag [ 2008.02.02 22:31:19 ] (notify) Elijah: You have foolishly engaged in hostile activity within sight of Roadkill and must suffer the lagsploits. You win this thread.
Bashiri Point-Zero SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:10:00 - [86] Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag [ 2008.02.02 22:31:19 ] (notify) Elijah: You have foolishly engaged in hostile activity within sight of Roadkill and must suffer the lagsploits. haha you win
Archesh Caldari Final Conflict UK SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:12:00 - [87] This thread makes me LawL. I dont think I've even read a wardec mail in the last two months. There is no point, it doesnt really change my behavior at all in the scope of what I try to accomplish in eve. If your gonna wardec someone, why not wardec somone who actually has an interest in being in empire. Wardec a 00 alliance and all you are is a statistic in the calculated risk of doing buisness. Threads like this just make ppl like Tri look like they have balls a solid rock. PV just needs to grow up a bit before they start lookn at us on there radar. They may very well have some solid pvp skillz, but at the moment, they look like they just want to fight pointless battles.

CCP Saint C C P	Posted - 2008.02.04 20:15:00 - [88] Locked Saint Community Representative EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang


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