Originally by: Zinrix

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Now that BoB is losing, the propaganda machine is in full force. This business called "JihadSwarm" for example, does not even exist. It is an elaborate attempt by BoB-friendly players to make us look like uncultured ruffians to the good people of high-sec. There have been many cases just like this. I urge all thinking people to reject these attempts on our reputation.

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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Im more interested in seeing how long your allowed to stay there

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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for the love of god, someone remove this awful topic.

If goons have such a good name, why are they ganking hulks in high sec... getting tired of BoB kicking your arses perhaps?

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Originally by: Hannobaal

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Well, they just tried to take back the system and failed miserably in 3 days flat (which is the shortest possible time that we could kill their POS's in, given stront timers).

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As I explained earlier, this hulk-ganking "JihadSwarm" business is an utter fabrication by bored or desperate members of the opposing faction. The killmails posted are fake. Goonswarm would not endorse such an act of pure malicious sabatoge. If any members of Goonfleet were EVER to do such a thing, they would, no doubt, be kicked from the corporation by Sesfan himself, who is as some may know, number one. We have zero tolerance for griefing.

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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for the love of god, someone remove this awful topic.

If goons have such a good name, why are they ganking hulks in high sec... getting tired of BoB kicking your arses perhaps?

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As I explained earlier, this hulk-ganking "JihadSwarm" business is an utter fabrication by bored or desperate members of the opposing faction. The killmails posted are fake. Goonswarm would not endorse such an act of pure malicious sabatoge. If any members of Goonfleet were EVER to do such a thing, they would, no doubt, be kicked from the corporation by Sesfan himself, who is as some may know, number one. We have zero tolerance for griefing.

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Originally by: Lecnor

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Edited by: Lecnor on 03/03/2008 03:38:46

Originally by: ishkabibble

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Edited by: ishkabibble on 03/03/2008 03:34:05
Ohh just shut the **** up already

Edit: Sup lecnor

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alright m8 just starting to get annoyed by idiots on forums trying to make a post on somthing so damn stupid


and the goonies saying they have a good name. wtf almost like MC saying there not a bunch of backstabbers imo

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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yeah this topic is full of fail, and im kinda making myself look bad by posting here.

/me steps back into the shadows

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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Local this past week has been full of people whining and complaining about goonswarm. Everywhere I go, someone is complaining about getting suicide ganked by goons.

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Originally by: Lecnor

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hehe lets take it over make it a whine about BOB defending against most of th big guys in eve and doing well they always respond in the goonie thousands to a thread comment like that.................

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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Local this past week has been full of people whining and complaining about goonswarm. Everywhere I go, someone is complaining about getting suicide ganked by goons.

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We have people investigating this, but at this time, we believe that this is an elaborate attempt by certain enemies of ours who use alts to pretend to complain in local channels of popular systems such as Jita and Osmon. Goonfleet is composed of dedicated freedom fighters who would not stoop to this level.

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Originally by: Siddy

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Edited by: Siddy on 03/03/2008 05:03:22
You make no sence

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Originally by: Siddy

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Edited by: Siddy on 03/03/2008 05:03:22
What? How can you be islamic militant's if most of you is yet to crawl out of the basements :/

You make no sence

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Originally by: Zorlag

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Originally by: Siddy

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Edited by: Siddy on 03/03/2008 05:03:22
What? How can you be islamic militant's if most of you is yet to crawl out of the basements :/

You make no sence

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Human beings tend to walk, not crawl, but it's easy to see why you would make that error

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Originally by: Siddy

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Originally by: Zorlag

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Originally by: Siddy

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Edited by: Siddy on 03/03/2008 05:03:22
What? How can you be islamic militant's if most of you is yet to crawl out of the basements :/

You make no sence

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Human beings tend to walk, not crawl, but it's easy to see why you would make that error

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ohh, i see what you did there >__>

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Originally by: Creed Richards

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Zinrix,

As much as I would to believe you and see the Goons as a honorable alliance, it would make this war more enjoyable and less biter to all. But I'm sorry to say that my own experiences, both directly and passed on by others, with your alliance can not allow me to believe you.

First and foremost, your alliance (or it's allies) uncovered a personal note of mine on a FIX private forum which I only meant for a few. The result of which I received much derision on the forums, particular from you alliance and this also lead to taunting of FIX as a whole.

I'm sure you'll find it, either on your forums or SHC. I'm told and have seen myself how much vileness was directed at that post (and others I made to my defense) and myself.

Second, many of your members treat their enemies within these forums with very little respect, your post is different, I applaud you for that, but a vast majority abuse this forum (threadnaughts, etc.) and it's members. Others may be playing the propaganda game as you said, unjust as your example states. But the high road is the best road to take.

Third, you may contradict me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding the Goons are out to destroy this game.

Finally, and I admit, it's just my opinion, I think your current operations in High Sec (suicide ganking Hulks in high sec) is going too far. I believe that killing should be limited to low sec, 0.0, and wardecs. I understand there is much controversy here, and I'm not that hardcore of a PVPer (pretty much the opposite actually). However IMHO, it is beyond the norms (if not set limits) of this game.

To be honest ma'am, the sum of this experience only shows that it will be a dark day in EVE should the Goons complete their goals. If you want to prove otherwise, tell your members to shape up and give their fellows, regardless of your alliance's standings to them, the due respect due to every human being.

Creed Richards

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Originally by: Shinigami

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Goons are like pi±atas filled with saw dust.

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Originally by: Avaricia

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look a goon lol

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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Local this past week has been full of people whining and complaining about goonswarm. Everywhere I go, someone is complaining about getting suicide ganked by goons.

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We have people investigating this, but at this time, we believe that this is an elaborate attempt by certain enemies of ours who use alts to pretend to complain in local channels of popular systems such as Jita and Osmon. Goonfleet is composed of dedicated freedom fighters who would not stoop to this level.

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Originally by: Creed Richards

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Zinrix,

As much as I would to believe you and see the Goons as a honorable alliance, it would make this war more enjoyable and less biter to all. But I'm sorry to say that my own experiences, both directly and passed on by others, with your alliance can not allow me to believe you.

First and foremost, your alliance (or it's allies) uncovered a personal note of mine on a FIX private forum which I only meant for a few. The result of which I received much derision on the forums, particular from you alliance and this also lead to taunting of FIX as a whole.

I'm sure you'll find it, either on your forums or SHC. I'm told and have seen myself how much vileness was directed at that post (and others I made to my defense) and myself.

Second, many of your members treat their enemies within these forums with very little respect, your post is different, I applaud you for that, but a vast majority abuse this forum (threadnaughts, etc.) and it's members. Others may be playing the propaganda game as you said, unjust as your example states. But the high road is the best road to take.

Third, you may contradict me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding the Goons are out to destroy this game.

Finally, and I admit, it's just my opinion, I think your current operations in High Sec (suicide ganking Hulks in high sec) is going too far. I believe that killing should be limited to low sec, 0.0, and wardecs. I understand there is much controversy here, and I'm not that hardcore of a PVPer (pretty much the opposite actually). However IMHO, it is beyond the norms (if not set limits) of this game.

To be honest ma'am, the sum of this experience only shows that it will be a dark day in EVE should the Goons complete their goals. If you want to prove otherwise, tell your members to shape up and give their fellows, regardless of your alliance's standings to them, the due respect due to every human being.

Creed Richards

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Originally by: Creed Richards

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Zinrix,

As much as I would to believe you and see the Goons as a honorable alliance, it would make this war more enjoyable and less biter to all. But I'm sorry to say that my own experiences, both directly and passed on by others, with your alliance can not allow me to believe you.

First and foremost, your alliance (or it's allies) uncovered a personal note of mine on a FIX private forum which I only meant for a few. The result of which I received much derision on the forums, particular from you alliance and this also lead to taunting of FIX as a whole.

I'm sure you'll find it, either on your forums or SHC. I'm told and have seen myself how much vileness was directed at that post (and others I made to my defense) and myself.

Second, many of your members treat their enemies within these forums with very little respect, your post is different, I applaud you for that, but a vast majority abuse this forum (threadnaughts, etc.) and it's members. Others may be playing the propaganda game as you said, unjust as your example states. But the high road is the best road to take.

Third, you may contradict me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding the Goons are out to destroy this game.

Finally, and I admit, it's just my opinion, I think your current operations in High Sec (suicide ganking Hulks in high sec) is going too far. I believe that killing should be limited to low sec, 0.0, and wardecs. I understand there is much controversy here, and I'm not that hardcore of a PVPer (pretty much the opposite actually). However IMHO, it is beyond the norms (if not set limits) of this game.

To be honest ma'am, the sum of this experience only shows that it will be a dark day in EVE should the Goons complete their goals. If you want to prove otherwise, tell your members to shape up and give their fellows, regardless of your alliance's standings to them, the due respect due to every human being.

Creed Richards

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