Originally by: Darklin Eldaris

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Good name?

Sometimes I can't tell whether goons are just collectively dumb, or collectively full of sarcasm at all times.

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Originally by: Darklin Eldaris

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Good name?

Sometimes I can't tell whether goons are just collectively dumb, or collectively full of sarcasm at all times.

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Originally by: Jebus Giest

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lmao what about teddy's?

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Originally by: ishkabibble

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Originally by: Creed Richards

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Zinrix,

As much as I would to believe you and see the Goons as a honorable alliance, it would make this war more enjoyable and less biter to all. But I'm sorry to say that my own experiences, both directly and passed on by others, with your alliance can not allow me to believe you.

First and foremost, your alliance (or it's allies) uncovered a personal note of mine on a FIX private forum which I only meant for a few. The result of which I received much derision on the forums, particular from you alliance and this also lead to taunting of FIX as a whole.

I'm sure you'll find it, either on your forums or SHC. I'm told and have seen myself how much vileness was directed at that post (and others I made to my defense) and myself.

Second, many of your members treat their enemies within these forums with very little respect, your post is different, I applaud you for that, but a vast majority abuse this forum (threadnaughts, etc.) and it's members. Others may be playing the propaganda game as you said, unjust as your example states. But the high road is the best road to take.

Third, you may contradict me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding the Goons are out to destroy this game.

Finally, and I admit, it's just my opinion, I think your current operations in High Sec (suicide ganking Hulks in high sec) is going too far. I believe that killing should be limited to low sec, 0.0, and wardecs. I understand there is much controversy here, and I'm not that hardcore of a PVPer (pretty much the opposite actually). However IMHO, it is beyond the norms (if not set limits) of this game.

To be honest ma'am, the sum of this experience only shows that it will be a dark day in EVE should the Goons complete their goals. If you want to prove otherwise, tell your members to shape up and give their fellows, regardless of your alliance's standings to them, the due respect due to every human being.

Creed Richards

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Your eloquent and well-thought out post is wasted here

This thread doesnt deserve a response as good as this

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Dog Solitude

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Creed, your posts are valid but you won't get support from alliances that are allied with goons since they are all caught up in the mob mentality goons have created vs. bob. They are too blinded in their hatred of bob to hear anyone say anything bad/valid about their allies goonswarm.

Soon enough their heads will clear...

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The average member of Goonswarm is a nice enough guy, just trying to play the game. Goon also has a number of high-profile posters who post the most insane smack and horrendously tasteless jokes. Goon leadership in my experience is very levelheaded and cool to work with even though we are no longer blue to them.

I am sure every ally of Goons realizes they have some very tasteless posters, but decided its not that important.

You know, there is a different between not seeing and not caring. Paraphrasing Kissinger (I think):"They may be bastards, but at least they're our bastards".

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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for the love of god, someone remove this awful topic.

If goons have such a good name, why are they ganking hulks in high sec... getting tired of BoB kicking your arses perhaps?

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As I explained earlier, this hulk-ganking "JihadSwarm" business is an utter fabrication by bored or desperate members of the opposing faction. The killmails posted are fake. Goonswarm would not endorse such an act of pure malicious sabatoge. If any members of Goonfleet were EVER to do such a thing, they would, no doubt, be kicked from the corporation by Sesfan himself, who is as some may know, number one. We have zero tolerance for griefing.

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Your eloquent and well-thought out post is wasted here

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Originally by: nomis ekoobmah

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Originally by: Zinrix

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Originally by: rValdez5987

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for the love of god, someone remove this awful topic.

If goons have such a good name, why are they ganking hulks in high sec... getting tired of BoB kicking your arses perhaps?

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As I explained earlier, this hulk-ganking "JihadSwarm" business is an utter fabrication by bored or desperate members of the opposing faction. The killmails posted are fake. Goonswarm would not endorse such an act of pure malicious sabatoge. If any members of Goonfleet were EVER to do such a thing, they would, no doubt, be kicked from the corporation by Sesfan himself, who is as some may know, number one. We have zero tolerance for griefing.

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OK so kick gobbloc out. Here's an extract from Local chat about half an hour after he ganked my Hulk in 0.5 space.

[ 2008.02.26 00:00:08 ] gobbloc > i see the purge has been sucessful
[ 2008.02.26 00:00:25 ] gobbloc > my brutix, sleeps in the glorious light with 72 virgins
[ 2008.02.26 00:00:33 ] gobbloc > and the belts, clear of infidels
[ 2008.02.26 00:03:53 ] moo theminer > yeah great but whats a ship gona do with 72 virgins???
[ 2008.02.26 00:11:03 ] Vigus Valorie > make sweet love, duh
[ 2008.02.26 00:11:10 ] scotland1980 > what alot of **** he talks hahahah
[ 2008.02.26 00:11:28 ] puccode > hahahah
[ 2008.02.26 00:11:39 ] moo theminer > rofl
[ 2008.02.26 00:12:25 ] puccode > but is 72 enought ?
[ 2008.02.26 00:12:42 ] gobbloc > http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=alliance_detail&
[ 2008.02.26 00:12:45 ] gobbloc > 181 down
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:02 ] scotland1980 > wow thats a nice one concord got hahaha u put that up u have no shame
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:03 ] puccode > but u only still on 1
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:03 ] moo theminer > so you can kill hulks wow
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:19 ] moo theminer > in high sec
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:33 ] moo theminer > so don't you go in 0.0
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:43 ] moo theminer > too scary for ya
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:49 ] gobbloc > we protect the pristine belts from the infidels
[ 2008.02.26 00:14:59 ] gobbloc > let this be a warning to you

He's spouting this so called "fabricated" Jihadswarm crap.

... and finally from the Battleclinic killboard:

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Originally by: Zinrix

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This is a subject that has deeply troubled me as of late. I for one am offended by by this constant stream of anti-Goonswarm propaganda. These haters are always making up lies and half-truths to dirty our good name. I have flown with Goonfleet for some time and they always fight with honour. We may not be the richest in space, but we still fight on against players with more than twice as much experience as us so that the rest of Eve can be free and safe from the dominating influence of these elitists. We always fight for honour and glory!

Now that BoB is losing, the propaganda machine is in full force. This business called "JihadSwarm" for example, does not even exist. It is an elaborate attempt by BoB-friendly players to make us look like uncultured ruffians to the good people of high-sec. There have been many cases just like this. I urge all thinking people to reject these attempts on our reputation.

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Originally by: Zinrix

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As usual, Mr ishkabibble, you offer nothing to the conversation but negativity and pettiness. I would like to thank Creed Richards for his fine post and his honest concerns. It is true that this war is bitter, but this is primarily because when it started, we were fighting an uphill battle against established powers who cannot tolerate newcomers and low-SP players in general. That discrimination against us has caused a great deal of anger and this anger has fueled the present war. This is a war for respect.

I am unfamiliar with the instance in which you were treated with disrespect, but I can assure you that this behavior is NOT the norm for Goonfleet. The majority of Goons are friendly, good-natured, and sensitive to the feelings of others.

Finally, as was explained previously, the matter of the hulks is an elaborate attempt at anti-goonswarm propaganda.

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Originally by: Local Her0

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sorry for your loss nomis, but im not lying when i tell you that Xinrix is trolling you, and there are actualy a lot of suicidegankers in empire, goonfleeters are only the loudest. Empire has never been a save place, and it never will be, hopefully.

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Originally by: Seth Quantix

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God i hate the goons and there crap like this thread.

This is the way it is:

Goons spam forums and **** off eve

Goons fail at taking a simple system namly NOL and pull out and wait for peope to come help.

Goons realise that they suck at eve and have made some stupid posts

Goons are told to cool it on EVE-o

EVE starts to wonder why they side with goons

Goons realise they soon to be the next target in eve

Goons make crap threads like this

Plenty of spelling mistakes here for you to focus on gonnies, alts of, fan boys and fat people trying to boost there egos and try distract from the truth

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Originally by: Dog Solitude

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Ummm...everyone knows this is a troll right?

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Originally by: Kaldaine

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Originally by: Dog Solitude

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Ummm...everyone knows this is a troll right?

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Please if you have nothing to add to the conversation dont post. I know good goons who have been banned for less.

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Originally by: Eshestun

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Originally by: Kaldaine

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Originally by: Dog Solitude

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Ummm...everyone knows this is a troll right?

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Please if you have nothing to add to the conversation dont post. I know good goons who have been banned for less.

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no you don't lol

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Originally by: Zinrix

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I have flown with Goonfleet for some time and they always fight with honour.

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