Originally by: Last Wolf

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Originally by: xxxak

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As proposed, your idea sounds like it could *almost* work. I think it would need a lot of tweaking though, because it does not scale well. Imagine 20 bombers who could fire while cloaked. You could kill an entire fleet. lol

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Even now, 20 stealth bombers could ruin anyone not in a large fleet's day.

But a single interceptor could kill the whole gang (assumming it went at least 5km/s +)

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Originally by: Hannobaal

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The post above shows the real source of whining about Stealth Bombers, which is people just don't know how to use them.

1. Using a stealth bomber solo, uncloaking to snipe at a target with one volley and then cloaking again, is a complete waste of time and ammo. Don't do it. These are small gang ships, to be used with interceptor and interdictor support. Hammer and Anvil. The Stealth Bombers are the hammer. And a gang like that is very, very difficult to catch and pin down, yet they can easily kill anything sub-capital that comes their way.

2. You should have at least 2 sensor dampeners on your ship to prevent your target from locking you.

3. If you do get locked (say from undamped ship near the target), a Stealth Bomber sits so far outside of any kind of scrambling range, that there is no way you can't safely warp out at that point. And aligning for warp is something you should have done before you even uncloaked.



There is no other frigate sized ship in the game that can deliver the kind of dps that stealth bombers can deliver from the kind of range, and safety, that stealth bombers can do. Any other frigate size ship that does anywhere near that kind of damage, does it within web range. This, and their cloaking bonuses, makes Stealth Bombers excellent ships.

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Originally by: Real Poison

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the only bad thing about SBs is the fact that from like 100km every target a single SB could possibly one volley are ships that shouldn't have any problem warping out before the missiles arrive (unless the targets pilot is afk or waiting for the cyno to run out).

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Originally by: Phoenicia

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I much prefer the old way of stealth bombing: Allowing the recloak while missiles are still in flight.

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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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Originally by: Phoenicia

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I much prefer the old way of stealth bombing: Allowing the recloak while missiles are still in flight.

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So the only way a SB would die is if he ran through a gate camp and got caught? I think thats a bit too overpowered.

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Originally by: Phoenicia

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You still have to sit there and not warp until the missiles hit. In that time you can be uncloaked (or forced to warp, in which case your missiles miss).

A good SB *still* only dies if it's caught in a camp. After all, with any significant risk, a good SB does not uncloak.

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Originally by: Last Wolf

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Edited by: Last Wolf on 03/03/2008 16:56:28
Yes, let stealth bombers lock a target and fire cruise missiles while cloaked

Except...

When a stealth bomber fires cloaked, It shows up on the overview but is not able to be locked by anything but another cloaked stealth bomber.

Once something closes the range and uncloaks the bomber, Its free game to being locked by anything.


Think of it this way, once it fires its missiles you know where it is at, but you cannot shoot at it till it is uncloaked.

uncloaking and re-cloaking will remove it from the overview again, assuming none of it's missiles are still en route to a target

Also, besides the missiles, activating anything other than self-"buffing"(sensor boosters, damage control etc..) modules will uncloak the bomber (Warp scrams, passive targeters, sensor damps etc...) MWD/AB will also uncloak the bomber.

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Originally by: Lrd Byron

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what are people opinion of letting stealth bombers fit seige launchers?

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Originally by: General Meridus

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Originally by: Lrd Byron

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what are people opinion of letting stealth bombers fit seige launchers?

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As the ship is now, at least in solo or small gang, the tactic is to engage with passive targeting, fire salvo, warp out. The ships are paper thin, and rate of fire is low. The faster your missile hits the target, the sooner you can leave before being turned to dust. Throwing slow moving torps, from a scary close range, in my view equals an insurance claim. Remember with high skills, and faction missiles, damage per cruise is in the 900 range X 3.

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Originally by: CCP Mitnal

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It's great being a puppetmaster

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Originally by: BABARR

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And you want a doomsday on your bomber too? no? really?

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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad

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That sounds like a great idea! On a related note, let my Armageddon fire while docked.

It could show up on the overview, but nothing would be able to target it back besides, get this, another docked Armageddon.

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