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Academion GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:31:00 - [121] Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Jade Constantine Tyrannies rise and fall and the oppressed rise up and reject them. That meme is old and so far it has not been broken. The oppressed become the oppressors but sometimes it is only to those who look in from out. I find your support and opposition to one particular "tyranny" over another a little disconcerting but I suppose it is understandable considering your personal history. I would go into an explaination of why you are very wrong on so many parts but I am pretty sure you are not ignorant to that fact and I have seen the machinations you like to work when attacking an enemy which again leads me to wonder, why now Jade. Is your own personal past friendships worth so much that they would bias you one way or another over something contra to what you extol as your core beliefs? It makes no never mind I guess and I still have a fondness for those I left behind so I can understand where you are coming from no matter the slight I feel at your continuance in this vein. I would urge that you try to understand the topics a little better in future though before expositing so profoundly from ignorance. At least when you heckled in the past it had the appearance of being somewhat believable. Sesfan Qu'lah is a good man, a fair man and he is guided by a strict set of principles and standards that only a friend would understand. tl;dr
Spoon Thumb Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:35:00 - [122] Originally by: Papa Ina So what you are saying, Jade, is that Myadra is roleplaying a person with zero knowledge of local politics not knowing what's going on. And that we should respect that because they are roleplaying (not knowing what is going on). The clue is in the thread title. The message I'm getting from this thread is that Myadra mistook the politics in the south for something far more complex and dynamic than it really was Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists Recruiting
Hardin Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:44:00 - [123] Edited by: Hardin on 04/03/2008 13:49:16 Originally by: Jade Constantine Don't talk of ridicule and Myadra being a nobody creatures of the Swarm. When all is said and done she has a name and a history and a reputation. Dream instead that one day you might be free and have such for yourselves. Hang on Jade, I thought you were a strong proponent of people building their own 'reputation' based on their actions in the world of EVE? Now you seem to be indicating that they should be respected simply because they have a 'name' and a 'history'? While Myadra may have a 'name' and a 'history' clearly 'reputation' is another matter, or else the Goons (and many others) wouldn't have found the whole conversation so funny... Do you expect the Goons (as one of EVE's most powerful 0.0 entities) to take Myadra seriously simply because she is a roleplayer if her ingame reputation and power does not reflect the position of authority and behaviour which she is claiming? Would a 'real' Blood Inquisition leader have taken an arrogant attitude when talking to one of the leading 0.0 powers? Possibly if that leader was in a position of authority and power but Myadra (currently) doesn't have that ingame authority. I don't think the approach holds water based on the current ingame realities on either a roleplay or non-roleplay level - unless of course Myadra is deliberately trying to present her character as a crazy, out of touch cultist with no sense of diplomacy - in which case she did very well! To be honest if CCP wrote a storyline where the leader of a 26 man corp was threatening Goons I think the general reaction would be laughter too - because it is the believable (and therefore roleplay realistic) reaction. That is not to say Myadra is wrong in what she has done. It certainly adds colour and spice in the same way that 'Lord Vaari' does We can all make things up, hell I could claim to be the illegitimate son of Emperor Heideran and next in line to the Amarr throne. Simply because it sounds RPish, is written well and comes from someone with an RP background doesn't mean it should be protected from Goons or anyone else if it is clearly out of touch with ingame realities. ----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:02:00 - [124] Thank you Hardin, you really are the #1 roleplayer in Eve. The short version of the OP: Goonswarm & Venom: We have an agreement on how standings work. Myadara: I'm above you all and don't care for the agreement between you two. Sesfan:
geno effort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:02:00 - [125] Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/03/2008 12:20:37 So, having read the op and the attached chatlog this looks very much like a thread where a variety of Goonswarm drones are irritated that a longterm eve roleplayer has roleplayed the fact that she has absolutely no respect or awareness for who Sesfan actually is and doesn't care less about the prospect of fighting the goons right WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS actually all the attention is due to what a blithering idiot the OP is (and the above as well). let me paint you a picture of where Venom's space is located, and why it might be worth paying attention to standings with RSF before just marching in there and roleplaying to be someone important. http://sov.eve-dev.net/maps/influence_2008-03-03_2008-03-04.png (it's right under the big OONSWA to the southeast)
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:05:00 - [126] Myarda certainly has a repuation now. Good work! You earned it!
Shinori GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:09:00 - [127] This really is hilarious, I don't know who Myadra or Jade Constantine are, but they've made it on the list of arrogant delusional pubbies like Band of Brothers for me. What does it mean? You'll have to wait and see if we still remember you tomorrow.
James Duar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 14:12:00 - [128] This thread fails to acknowledge the fact that Sesfan is #1
Sarwaka Foehammer The Same 20 Guys	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:02:00 - [129] Only sure thing in town is that the wheel turns. In time the Goons will be brought low. Just as there were many willing to hasten the demise of BOB, when the tide turns there will be those of us ready to do the same to the Goons. Tick-Tock Goonies. And thats no pendulum, it is the sound of inevitability.
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:14:00 - [130] Edited by: Hungo on 04/03/2008 15:14:53 oringinally by jade longwinded idiot - OMG could i be up my ass anymore? First off pal, no one really cares to read your long widned crap bascially using large words and long sentences and paragraphs to bascially in a nutshell make small points nor is anyone even remotley impressed by you. My friend who doesnt play eve, i linked him your post and his reply on teamspeak was this guy is infact one of the most illogical idiots i have ever seen, how long winded can he get At this point i needed tio blow my nose because i was choking so didnt hear the rest. My point is, seriously, make ur point, do it fast and stop writing long winded bull**** thinking your clever because tbh your just making yourself look like a 16 year old smart ass child craving attention Good god, get a grip son

Civrax GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:21:00 - [131] Edited by: Civrax on 04/03/2008 15:21:25 Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer Only sure thing in town is that the wheel turns. In time the Goons will be brought low. Just as there were many willing to hasten the demise of BOB, when the tide turns there will be those of us ready to do the same to the Goons. Is that group similar to the group who called out for the head of BoB, but never actually did anything? Because thus far the universe hates us, and has wanted to see us driven from the game for, what, two years now? Tick,Tock - Shut the **** up.
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:23:00 - [132] Edited by: Yorda on 04/03/2008 15:23:25 Originally by: Shinori Thank you Hardin, you really are the #1 roleplayer in Eve. The short version of the OP: Goonswarm & Venom: We have an agreement on how standings work. Myadara: I'm above you all and don't care for the agreement between you two. Sesfan: Originally by: Civrax Edited by: Civrax on 04/03/2008 15:21:25 Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer Only sure thing in town is that the wheel turns. In time the Goons will be brought low. Just as there were many willing to hasten the demise of BOB, when the tide turns there will be those of us ready to do the same to the Goons. Is that group similar to the group who called out for the head of BoB, but never actually did anything? Because thus far the universe hates us, and has wanted to see us driven from the game for, what, two years now? Tick,Tock - Shut the **** up. Thread over.
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:31:00 - [133] If I were to roleplay as a goon I'd do as follows (indulge me I'm new at this). Goons only accept raw power as the coin to be used during diplomatic barter. 0.0 politics leavo no room for anything else, the stakes are simply too high. We learned this from the very first day fighting against the infinite legions of the Serpentis Syndicate. The OP has zero of said power and so she gets the treatment she deserves. OOC: phew that was pretty exhausting how do you guys post so much in character ~ no not believin in urself ~
Hydrogen Art of War	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:46:00 - [134] All I understood was: only a dead Goon is a good Goon. Shoot more Goons - good message, but well known anyways... Have you shot your Goon today? __ - click here -
Zorlag Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 15:47:00 - [135] Guys help, I would really like to read a Jade Constantine post but every time I try my eyes unfocus and I become temporarily illiterate, I think it has something to do with the longwindedness
Desiderata Fabian GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:01:00 - [136] Hey guys, I would like to waltz into the middle of the largest coalition in the game, but I refuse to learn anything about the organizations, dramatis personae, or standings issues involved, but donÆt worry I am relying on my complete lack of diplomatic tact and demands to be given isk to get by. But on the off chance things go wrong I can make a CAOD whine thread and Jade Constantine will leap to my defense out of some sense of roleplayer solidarity.
Bloodyranger	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:17:00 - [137] Edited by: Bloodyranger on 04/03/2008 16:19:12 Well as we know Cruoris Seraphim tends to camp L4X a lot, though they aren't the most effective people to do so I still respect their PvP skills. As I respected Warspites PvP skills earlier, it simply wouldn't be fun without decent PvPers, I really hope you Goons will have fun. I've never been killed by Cruoris Seraphim myself, and they always seem to escape on structure Regards Bloodyranger - Volition Cult
Johlie Caldari Delusion of Grandeur HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2008.03.04 16:47:00 - [138] I like this part: Jadzeia > cyshade Jadzeia > do not engage Jadzeia > CYSHADE Jadzeia > DO NOT ENGAGE Jadzeia > cyshade is attacking me Good post Mya, good too see you alive and kicking. Flying with SKV was still one the best times I've had in eve.
Danyael Tyren Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:06:00 - [139] So, some tiny little alliance wanted to move into region of space owned by someone else, but was so self-important, egotistical, and arrogant that they demanded their hosts adopt their standings, and threw a hissy fit and made a post about it when they didn't get their way? No wonder everyone hates RPer's. ------ "I wish to have romantic relations with Suas." - Onchas Erivvia, Band of Brothers Fleet Commander, Sunday January 27, 2008 during a fleet fight with BoB in system QY6-RK, approximately 21:54
Marko Zhang Destructive Flatulence	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:06:00 - [140] Originally by: Jade Constantine a variety of Goonswarm drones are irritated that a longterm eve roleplayer has roleplayed the fact that she has absolutely no respect or awareness for who Sesfan actually is and doesn't care less about the prospect of fighting the goons right? Hey, man, you don't talk to Sesfan. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas... --- THE WOUNDED TIGER IS DE TIGER BEFORE IT IS WOUNDED

Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:27:00 - [141] Edited by: Yorda on 04/03/2008 17:27:02 Originally by: Marko Zhang Originally by: Jade Constantine a variety of Goonswarm drones are irritated that a longterm eve roleplayer has roleplayed the fact that she has absolutely no respect or awareness for who Sesfan actually is and doesn't care less about the prospect of fighting the goons right? Hey, man, you don't talk to Sesfan. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he'll... uh... well, you'll say "hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you. He won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say, "do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you"... I mean I'm no, I can't... I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's... he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas... No you're mistaken. Sefan is, quite plainly, #1.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:29:00 - [142] Originally by: Hungo First off pal, no one really cares to read your long widned crap I tend to, whether I agree with it or not (usually the latter...but I like to know what I'm disagreeing with.) Does that mean I, like, troll myself? I'm not very good at this
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 17:33:00 - [143] Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Hungo First off pal, no one really cares to read your long widned crap I tend to, whether I agree with it or not (usually the latter...but I like to know what I'm disagreeing with.) Does that mean I, like, troll myself? I'm not very good at this You're just Amarr, it's okay.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:12:00 - [144] Originally by: Zorlag Guys help, I would really like to read a Jade Constantine post but every time I try my eyes unfocus and I become temporarily illiterate, I think it has something to do with the longwindedness Nothing at all. Since reasonableness is a habit to be learned, not everyone is capable of conducting a good argument. For that matter, not everyone is capable of arguing in an intelligible sense at all, but goons have already proven this fact, so I'll skip the redundance of words. Take care Myadra, it was a good post but definately to the wrong "public". Anyhow, good to see you around. Originally by: ISD BH Eshtir Ps.: I also know its hard to RP whith a Cyno Jammer.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:25:00 - [145] Edited by: marakor on 04/03/2008 18:26:24 Originally by: Nekumi Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Hungo First off pal, no one really cares to read your long widned crap I tend to, whether I agree with it or not (usually the latter...but I like to know what I'm disagreeing with.) Does that mean I, like, troll myself? I'm not very good at this You're just Amarr, it's okay. She is only saying that because she wants to help you apparently, it is in no way a sarcastic one line insult but actually a helpful psychological nudge.
Schani Kratnorr Internal Revenue Service	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:31:00 - [146] Edited by: Schani Kratnorr on 04/03/2008 18:32:10 It is good to se Myadra (OP) put words behind his actions. Although I doubt the signifigance of havign -10.0 to a 0.0 entity, it does help you pick them out faster in a crowded system. On a sidenote, although someone beat me to it, I have just gone through the entire thread, and reported about 10 posts. There were allready quite a few GS posts moderated (how is it they are not permabanned yet?), so not much left for me to scrutinize. Statisticly i found: one BoB post, and nine GS posts, and one "other". I hope we can keep the one-liner-spam out of this thread. I would also love threads free of FLAMEBAIT or TROLLING, but I guess it takes constant vigilance to turn the tide. EDIT. P.S. GoonSwarm bloked again now (I can only do a few threads a day before I go nuts).
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.03.04 18:55:00 - [147] Originally by: Papa Ina So what you are saying, Jade, is that Myadra is roleplaying a person with zero knowledge of local politics not knowing what's going on. And that we should respect that because they are roleplaying (not knowing what is going on). What she is saying to you is that you are a club-toting, raw meat eating, me tarzan you jane, big ball bubblehead that couldn't count to 10 if he was bare-foot, or wearing sandals. c/d? And Jade, I love how succint you put that. Words out of my very mouth. Personal Library
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:08:00 - [148] Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien What she is saying to you is that you are a club-toting, raw meat eating, me tarzan you jane, big ball bubblehead that couldn't count to 10 if he was bare-foot, or wearing sandals. No she isn't. Apparently you need some reading lessons. Hardin already finished this thread though so I'll leave it at that. Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien c/d? d Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien And Jade, I love how succint you put that. Words out of my very mouth. It's spelled succinct and I don't think you know what it means.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:24:00 - [149] Originally by: Papa Ina It's spelled succinct Woah, someone's taking this internet spaceships a little too seriously... Personal Library
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 19:25:00 - [150] Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Originally by: Papa Ina It's spelled succinct Woah, someone's taking this internet spaceships a little too seriously... Damn right. I have newbies to exploit, moons to mine and hulks to explode. But foiled, foiled yet again by you and your terrible spelling.



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