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Tuzgai The Greater Goon GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 05:26:00 - [91] 0
FastJack316 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 05:27:00 - [92] r
Atama Cardel GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 05:36:00 - [93] z
Urph GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 06:09:00 - [94] 0
Aprudena Gist Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 06:19:00 - [95] r
baalaagaa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 06:22:00 - [96] z
HydroSan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 06:27:00 - [97] 0
Mondubious GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 06:31:00 - [98] r
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:09:00 - [99] z Quote: [ 2006.08.25 22:30:46 ] fire 59 > mate, im 230 and 6 ft 3, half caste and train every day
Ppffffft	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:10:00 - [100] SJ may be something of a....personality, but he is right. Goon act exactly the same as BoB did prior to destruction of ASCN. Almost word for word sometimes (who knows, maybe thats on purpose) The thing I always find funny is they (goon) talk about RSF, brotherhood, and all that crap with RA, but RA is loyal to one person and one person only, themselves. Once the goons usefulness is gone, or replaced (TRI perhaps?), they are going to be kicked to the curb.

Value Added GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:18:00 - [101] Originally by: Ppffffft SJ may be something of a....personality, but he is right. Goon act exactly the same as BoB did prior to destruction of ASCN. Almost word for word sometimes (who knows, maybe thats on purpose) The thing I always find funny is they (goon) talk about RSF, brotherhood, and all that crap with RA, but RA is loyal to one person and one person only, themselves. Once the goons usefulness is gone, or replaced (TRI perhaps?), they are going to be kicked to the curb. So says the alt troll.
Ppffffft	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:19:00 - [102] Oooooohhhhhhhh
Thrasher's Slave	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:21:00 - [103] the title of this thread is an oxymoron j/k
Tarantelita Ragna Rok Corp	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:48:00 - [104] Originally by: Yorda Oh great, more blues. Oh wait... you said -10? Oh man, time to go ride bikes wherever the hell you are. Take your tech I frigg and go kill em
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Fnck the blob.	Posted - 2008.03.04 07:50:00 - [105] 0
Baxalusx GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 08:11:00 - [106] Originally by: Ppffffft SJ may be something of a....personality, but he is right. Goon act exactly the same as BoB did prior to destruction of ASCN. Almost word for word sometimes (who knows, maybe thats on purpose) The thing I always find funny is they (goon) talk about RSF, brotherhood, and all that crap with RA, but RA is loyal to one person and one person only, themselves. Once the goons usefulness is gone, or replaced (TRI perhaps?), they are going to be kicked to the curb. If our usefulness was gone and we thus became useless, our relationship with RA would erode over time as we failed to fulfill the implicit terms of being close allies: that you pull your own weight, in the same direction as the others; call it a check on our competence. And frankly, we'll never be like BoB so long as the RSF stands, because we can't be BoB if we admit to having at least two equals. --------- ~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~
Ppffffft	Posted - 2008.03.04 08:53:00 - [107] Originally by: Baxalusx Originally by: Ppffffft SJ may be something of a....personality, but he is right. Goon act exactly the same as BoB did prior to destruction of ASCN. Almost word for word sometimes (who knows, maybe thats on purpose) The thing I always find funny is they (goon) talk about RSF, brotherhood, and all that crap with RA, but RA is loyal to one person and one person only, themselves. Once the goons usefulness is gone, or replaced (TRI perhaps?), they are going to be kicked to the curb. If our usefulness was gone and we thus became useless, our relationship with RA would erode over time as we failed to fulfill the implicit terms of being close allies: that you pull your own weight, in the same direction as the others; call it a check on our competence. And frankly, we'll never be like BoB so long as the RSF stands, because we can't be BoB if we admit to having at least two equals. RA isn't going to give you a heads up or anything; its not that that you would necessarily become useless, its that someone else will become more useful than you are. And while you may think they (RA) are your equals, I highly doubt that RA feels the same way. What do I know though, Im gonna get nerfed anyway
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2008.03.04 08:58:00 - [108] TBH - Your a nobody and your taking part in the conflict to get recognition or try and make a name for yourself There's the door, use it
Hungo Minmatar Nightfallz	Posted - 2008.03.04 09:01:00 - [109] Originally by: Ppffffft SJ may be something of a....personality, but he is right. Goon act exactly the same as BoB did prior to destruction of ASCN. Almost word for word sometimes (who knows, maybe thats on purpose) The thing I always find funny is they (goon) talk about RSF, brotherhood, and all that crap with RA, but RA is loyal to one person and one person only, themselves. Once the goons usefulness is gone, or replaced (TRI perhaps?), they are going to be kicked to the curb. Ra do not have the numbers or strengtyh to remove goonswarm now. if they turned on GS, you can be assured GS would hire every damn alliance in the game to teach them a lesson not to mention RA cannot field anywhere near enough pilots to do what you say. yes goonswarm owe alot to RA. But RA are not invincible, they are very spread out atm and lack numbers to even remoteley defen all that space by themselves. if they turned on each other RA would loose all regions west of omist within a week
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 09:40:00 - [110] Edited by: Brmble on 04/03/2008 09:41:51 ^^^^ If we'd turn on RA I'd quit this alliance. If RA turned on us I'd quit this alliance. Originally by: kublai Originally by: Mike Huckabee Originally by: LVirus we have been killing goons as long as i can remember. Too bad officer goons are so rare these days :( Who are you? Former R i s e? He's someone who has killed a great deal of goons. is... is he the fabled Minmatar Control Tower? I am awed to be in his presence bows dis roleplaying stuff is fun ~ no not believin in urself ~

Cursive Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 09:55:00 - [111] Originally by: Ppffffft RA isn't going to give you a heads up or anything; its not that that you would necessarily become useless, its that someone else will become more useful than you are. And while you may think they (RA) are your equals, I highly doubt that RA feels the same way. What do I know though, Im gonna get nerfed anyway We won't need a heads-up. You just gave it to us. We shall prepare for doom and gloom immediately. Thanks!
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 10:07:00 - [112] Edited by: Pastora on 04/03/2008 10:09:17 The conversation represented in logs is the worst load of crap I have seen ever. I can't believe somebody can come up with this nonsense in their right mind. Are you on drugs Myadra? According to you, Cruoris Seraphim (or actually you youself) is the co-creator, and the backbone of Band of Brothers! How on earth BoB will survive now that you have moved out? _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Hardin Amarr Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2008.03.04 10:53:00 - [113] Originally by: SaKoil the op and samuraijack should form some kind of alliance relationship consultant super-team This post made my day But Myadra has always been like this... ----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services
Brmble Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 11:47:00 - [114] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: SaKoil the op and samuraijack should form some kind of alliance relationship consultant super-team This post made my day But Myadra has always been like this... hey Hardin would CVA accept ex-goons? I dig your style ~ no not believin in urself ~
Spoon Thumb Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 12:18:00 - [115] Originally by: Narcistus mya...when members of our corp insurgency approached you being neutral in space we were occupying members of your corp tried to muscle in on us and other members of anthrax while you chatted with members of our council in local. The lack of effort on your part to get the full picture of the situation that was going on in omist was no ones fault but your own. Redia had made a good point that you had no business being there with out #1 standings and #2 knowledge of what you were poking your nose into. Now you try to back paddle and expect everyone to be like ooo ahh to you setting goon to -10 to try and cover up the fact that you basically tried to move in on something and it blew up in your face. In that sense you are no better then venom who is slowly becoming extinct due to moveing in on things they had no right to either. If I was you i would seriously reconsider my tactics and diplomatic skills because they will be your undoing and the sad part is you wont even relize it. Underlined for emphasis. It appears the powers that be in the south believe their legitimacy is based soley on their current power and dominance. Linky Linky And people wonder where threads like this come from? Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists Recruiting
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2008.03.04 12:18:00 - [116] Edited by: Jade Constantine on 04/03/2008 12:20:37 So, having read the op and the attached chatlog this looks very much like a thread where a variety of Goonswarm drones are irritated that a longterm eve roleplayer has roleplayed the fact that she has absolutely no respect or awareness for who Sesfan actually is and doesn't care less about the prospect of fighting the goons right? Strangely that almost looks like the Swarm has started taking themselves a little bit seriously - I mean irritation at the fact their leader is not being paid the appropriate e-respect in a in-game conversation about power, influence, standings and the domination of weaker entities? All a bit rum and not what we've come to expect from the day one iconoclasts of the swarm whatsoever. I have to say I can see exactly where Myadra is coming from and despite the fact that I consider her in-game persona to be positively deranged and a past enemy of Star Fraction I have to give a vote of approval to the way she conducted the conversation in that chatlog. She maintained character, represented the creative distinctiveness of her corporation, refused to bow and cringe and grovel (as apparently is the usual response in the presence of this goonswarm leader) and she comes out of the exchange with a simple resolution to set the Swarm -10 and deal with the consequences in space. There is nothing here in the least bit pitiable or sad. Its a person playing the game of eve and deciding that for all the propaganda and claims to the contrary the Swarm is just as corrupt, domineering, xenophobic and tyrannical as they ever claimed their enemies were. Its politics, its the process of power corrupting, and yes its about the establishment of hierarchies and structures and pecking orders. Some eve players (even some quite famous ones from this thread) have decided that the goons are a force to be placated and bowed down too (lest they face attack and subjugation) that the numbers and fanaticism and personal devotion of the swarm is a thing to be feared and respected. Some believe its better to live on one's knees than stand and die in the sunshine. Its always been this way. Others decide that the swarm is itself a corruption of human individuality and nothing more than a topdown cult of the personality seeing thousands of faceless drones following the dictates of a hallowed few and producing spam on demand to shout down the voices of those who think differently. I tell you one thing, history loves heroes more than cowards. Myadra you have my respect for that chatlog, it was stylish, entertaining and showed absolutely none of the cringing lapdoggery that so often attends third party negotiations with more numerous powers and as such is worthy of a salute and best wishes. For everyone else spamming this thread with "tl:dr" and various nonsense perhaps you'd like to compare your own standards of individuality and personal distinctiveness with Myadra here. Do YOU have the courage to stand up to a stronger power and refuse to be pushed around? Do YOU have the imagination to actually portray a character in the eve setting rather than representing a pair of hands and body eternally in the service of other stronger men from an external internet forum? I often wonder if the heights of ridicule and condemnation summoned by these threads represents nothing more than the desire to erase an alternative option to enduring servitude to the swarm itself. Easier to justify one's own personal abasement and slavish devotion to another man's isk account if there are no external voices arguing the case for personal sovereignty and individual accomplishment correct? Don't talk of ridicule and Myadra being a nobody creatures of the Swarm. When all is said and done she has a name and a history and a reputation. Dream instead that one day you might be free and have such for yourselves. TL:DR? Keep telling yourselves that my friends. "I might not have meant anything by it"
Spoon Thumb Caldari Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2008.03.04 12:48:00 - [117] Originally by: Jade Constantine etc.. I wonder though if you fail to consider the powerful force of mass movement? I get this whenever I go to a music festival and see a mass of tents and people all unified and with one purpose (to Rock!). But I think there is an equivalent for goons. The feeling of collective power is shared and that propagates to the low level grunts at the bottom with responses like "who the hell are you?" all the way to the top leaders, as shown by the chatlogs Diametrically opposed is the force to want to break away and do things different and indepedant and the two are in constant struggle / flux, pulling and pushing all the time. But neither is wrong or right, merely a part of human nature. c/d? Khaldari khanidpublic: RP channel for Kingdom loyalists Recruiting
Yorda Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:05:00 - [118] Originally by: Spoon Thumb Originally by: Jade Constantine etc.. I wonder though if you fail to consider the powerful force of mass movement? I get this whenever I go to a music festival and see a mass of tents and people all unified and with one purpose (to Rock!). But I think there is an equivalent for goons. The feeling of collective power is shared and that propagates to the low level grunts at the bottom with responses like "who the hell are you?" all the way to the top leaders, as shown by the chatlogs Diametrically opposed is the force to want to break away and do things different and indepedant and the two are in constant struggle / flux, pulling and pushing all the time. But neither is wrong or right, merely a part of human nature. c/d? I have seen the error of my ways and wish to worship the true Enlightened path of God and serve the rightful Emperor Khanid II. No seriously though, CVA are awsome.
Papa Ina GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:13:00 - [119] So what you are saying, Jade, is that Myadra is roleplaying a person with zero knowledge of local politics not knowing what's going on. And that we should respect that because they are roleplaying (not knowing what is going on).
Nekumi Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.03.04 13:25:00 - [120] Originally by: Jade Constantine Tyrannies rise and fall and the oppressed rise up and reject them. That meme is old and so far it has not been broken. The oppressed become the oppressors but sometimes it is only to those who look in from out. I find your support and opposition to one particular "tyranny" over another a little disconcerting but I suppose it is understandable considering your personal history. I would go into an explaination of why you are very wrong on so many parts but I am pretty sure you are not ignorant to that fact and I have seen the machinations you like to work when attacking an enemy which again leads me to wonder, why now Jade. Is your own personal past friendships worth so much that they would bias you one way or another over something contra to what you extol as your core beliefs? It makes no never mind I guess and I still have a fondness for those I left behind so I can understand where you are coming from no matter the slight I feel at your continuance in this vein. I would urge that you try to understand the topics a little better in future though before expositing so profoundly from ignorance. At least when you heckled in the past it had the appearance of being somewhat believable. Sesfan Qu'lah is a good man, a fair man and he is guided by a strict set of principles and standards that only a friend would understand.



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