Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: The Mittani

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you replied to a single sentence with two full posts and yet you seem to think this is a more effective method of communication than a solid oneliner, brevity, soul of wit, etc.

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Yes Mittani, yes I did, and I imagine that means I'd make a damned poor goon I suspect. What a shame but I believe the disappointment will pass in time.

The "one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics endlessly propagated down the goon hierarchy from the leaders to the drones and practiced as mono-cultural "passports" to goon e-respect and virtual esteem really have no compelling attraction to me beyond pure anthropomorphic curiosity Mittani. I'm sure you can understand that dear chap, but thank you for quoting the whole of my posts so reliably, it really does make me feel very special.

For the rest however, allow me to explain:

The TL:DR meme is something I consider as a hostile thought-virus resident as a parasite in the goon body politic and I take great pleasure flying in the face of your conventional "wisdom" on these matters. You chaps bring your memes and faux witticisms as the ancient conquistadors brought ailments and plague to isolated civilizations to kill them as surely as their swords and guns. (And all the while you hand out glittering but worthless trinkets of "e-praise" and "madprops" to those natives that greet you with welcome arms and happy animal faces even as they dig their own graves in witless mimicry of invader fashions)

"TL:DR" is the most common of trinkets - thoughtlessly repeated by those hoping to get "in" with the perceived "in crowd" and yet a fully obvious element in the process of cross-cultural suicide in all its gory slasher slow motion action. To accept the TL:DR trinket is to lobotomize yourself so you can better "fit in" to a dumbed down society lacking in wit and attention-span itself. Its fascinating to see which characters realize the dangers of this contamination in time to arrest its spread and which simply surrender to the inevitability of mono-cultural assimilation.

I trust that makes my thoughts clear on the matter

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Originally by: marakor

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Edited by: marakor on 06/03/2008 11:39:14

Originally by: Nekumi

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Originally by: Locke Deathroe

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The thing I find most interesting after reading the "interview" about Goons actions in empire is that they are doing this to promote people into moving to 0.0. I about died laughing at this comment. You see ATA had found a quiet spot in Detorid, NOT ONE TOWER IN THE WHOLE 6 SYSTEM constellation. We are blue to Goon, RA, TCF, UNL... so we dropped towers. Not that week, not the next...but TWO mths into getting sov 3 and having a good time out in 0.0 chasing ISK farmers and reds.... Goon comes along and tells us to leave to face obliteration. So tell me Goon, how in the hell is it you want to get people into 0.0?? Oh wait is it so you can extort ISK from them? Let them spend thier ISK to build a station then YOU come along and take it? Please elaborate on how your actions in empire are a "helpful way to get people into 0.0"

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How can anyone be this naive? Blue standings doesn't equal squatting rights.

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Yea what were you thinking ffs it was BOB who had pets in their space, ragoon require and insist on slaves.

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Originally by: Locke Deathroe

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DOH! Thats a grand point and I guess one I failed to think about. I guess I should have clicked my heals together and saluted.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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That really is the question isnÆt it Baxalusx?

I mean, I strongly suspect I (and all like me) are ôbeneath the noticeö of the Swarm since we donÆt play the POS spam/settlement/indestructible outpost game in 0.0 space. That of course means weÆll never lose a system full of POS due to you crashing a node or loading up bookmarks in shuttles or attacking with 10,000 starter frigates. All weÆll ever do is fly around in warships avoiding the lagfests and preying on your civilians and weaker members and shooting them in the head when we get the chance while fading away and hiding from any organized army many times our number.

Must be frustrating right? And a real nightmare to fight of course since if you actually wanted to ôfiscally annihilateö us youÆd have to learn how to fight properly and construct decent skirmish gangs, learn to track targets, develop some decent empire reach, use wardecs, suppression, dirty tricks, basically û fight a war quite differently from the spoonfed roll into a system, lag the whole place and replace some dead pos with your own and wave a flag before declaring ôvictoryö pattern you are accustomed too.

Or you could pretend that we ôdonÆt matterö that the war has already been ôwonö against such marginal threats and incidental hostiles. Maybe you should ignore all such posts on CAOD because they come from an ôirrelevantö source? (Admittedly ôignoringö doesnÆt have the same ring to it as ôround up all the anarchists and free-thinkers and intellectuals and performance artists and execute them tomorrow morningö and I can see how the chief goon passing the orders back through the ranks for a mass ôturn the other cheekö from the laughing crowd is going to lack a certain element of ... well gravitas really, but those are the breaks.)

So where does that leave us? Now I could be wrong (itÆs possible) but running the numbers and a very quick analysis shows that while itÆs true, my organisation (and likely another 20 like it) couldnÆt possibly threaten your towers and 0.0 dominion, neither could you with your huge numerical advantage (summoned by the lauded goon charismatic leadership and SA levies) actually achieve anything against us.

Damn, thatÆs something of a stalemate then, means that while militarily weÆre irrelevant to you its just the same in reverse. Military confrontation then isnÆt really the battleground of use to us here. I wonder if your vaunted ômass-subscription charismatic leadershipö can achieve anything where direct numerical confrontation doesnÆt decide the issue? You know, in something like a conflict of ideas, of dreams, of ideals, of ambitions, you know û all the finer things of life?

IÆll leave you a while to ponder this Baxalusx (and IÆve finished my morning coffee now in any case), but makes you think, no? Perhaps the great confrontation of our time is not going to be in space since the massively asymmetrical nature of the confrontation makes decisive engagement impossible. Perhaps it is about ideas and debate, about rhetoric and persuasion, about imagination and intellect and sparkling prose? Maybe the true test of your ôgreat charismatic mass movement leadershipö is not in assembling vast node-crashing fleets but in vanquishing ideological challenges to the goon mono culture in visceral verbal combat in the sphere of public opinion.

Terrifying of course for a ôleaderö accustomed only in persuading obedience from brain-wired-from-birth goon legions to engage a wider audience of individuals and free thinkers, but honestly, maybe thatÆs what it takes to stop the crowds throwing rotten fruit and laughing uproariously every time the goons come to town?

Just a thought for you to begin your day old chap, enjoy.

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Originally by: Hardin

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...Goons (as one of EVE's most powerful 0.0 entities)

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Originally by: candidx

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lul, lets see how they fare on their own 4(?) wings, i imagine windscreen faceplant

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Originally by: candidx

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Originally by: Hardin

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...Goons (as one of EVE's most powerful 0.0 entities)

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lul, lets see how they fare on their own 4(?) wings, i imagine windscreen faceplant

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Originally by: Reem Fairchild

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Originally by: candidx

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Originally by: Hardin

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...Goons (as one of EVE's most powerful 0.0 entities)

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lul, lets see how they fare on their own 4(?) wings, i imagine windscreen faceplant

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It's great having good friends. You should try it.

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Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: candidx

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lul, lets see how they fare on their own 4(?) wings, i imagine windscreen faceplant

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yeah we'd probably suck without our allies

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Originally by: candidx

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Edited by: candidx on 06/03/2008 23:38:57

Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: candidx

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lul, lets see how they fare on their own 4(?) wings, i imagine windscreen faceplant

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yeah we'd probably suck without our allies

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yes

edit: oh wait, you already do

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Originally by: Desiderata Fabian

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Oh god. I don't think Jade is being ironic.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: The Mittani

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you replied to a single sentence with two full posts and yet you seem to think this is a more effective method of communication than a solid oneliner, brevity, soul of wit, etc.

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Yes Mittani, yes I did, and I imagine that means I'd make a damned poor goon I suspect. What a shame but I believe the disappointment will pass in time.

The "one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics endlessly propagated down the goon hierarchy from the leaders to the drones and practiced as mono-cultural "passports" to goon e-respect and virtual esteem really have no compelling attraction to me beyond pure anthropomorphic curiosity Mittani. I'm sure you can understand that dear chap, but thank you for quoting the whole of my posts so reliably, it really does make me feel very special.

For the rest however, allow me to explain:

The TL:DR meme is something I consider as a hostile thought-virus resident as a parasite in the goon body politic and I take great pleasure flying in the face of your conventional "wisdom" on these matters. You chaps bring your memes and faux witticisms as the ancient conquistadors brought ailments and plague to isolated civilizations to kill them as surely as their swords and guns. (And all the while you hand out glittering but worthless trinkets of "e-praise" and "madprops" to those natives that greet you with welcome arms and happy animal faces even as they dig their own graves in witless mimicry of invader fashions)

"TL:DR" is the most common of trinkets - thoughtlessly repeated by those hoping to get "in" with the perceived "in crowd" and yet a fully obvious element in the process of cross-cultural suicide in all its gory slasher slow motion action. To accept the TL:DR trinket is to lobotomize yourself so you can better "fit in" to a dumbed down society lacking in wit and attention-span itself. Its fascinating to see which characters realize the dangers of this contamination in time to arrest its spread and which simply surrender to the inevitability of mono-cultural assimilation.

I trust that makes my thoughts clear on the matter

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Originally by: Aodha Khan

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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 05/03/2008 09:35:48

Baxalusx, your actually roleplaying yourself every time to step into Eve. Roleplaying a large alliance trying to obtain power over virtual space, roleplaying politics, roleplaying spaceship combat.

You are obviously ignorant of the subject matter, so best keep it shut.

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Yes Mittani, yes I did, and I imagine that means I'd make a damned poor goon I suspect. What a shame but I believe the disappointment will pass in time.

The "one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics endlessly propagated down the goon hierarchy from the leaders to the drones and practiced as mono-cultural "passports" to goon e-respect and virtual esteem really have no compelling attraction to me beyond pure anthropomorphic curiosity Mittani. I'm sure you can understand that dear chap, but thank you for quoting the whole of my posts so reliably, it really does make me feel very special.

For the rest however, allow me to explain:

The TL:DR meme is something I consider as a hostile thought-virus resident as a parasite in the goon body politic and I take great pleasure flying in the face of your conventional "wisdom" on these matters. You chaps bring your memes and faux witticisms as the ancient conquistadors brought ailments and plague to isolated civilizations to kill them as surely as their swords and guns. (And all the while you hand out glittering but worthless trinkets of "e-praise" and "madprops" to those natives that greet you with welcome arms and happy animal faces even as they dig their own graves in witless mimicry of invader fashions)

"TL:DR" is the most common of trinkets - thoughtlessly repeated by those hoping to get "in" with the perceived "in crowd" and yet a fully obvious element in the process of cross-cultural suicide in all its gory slasher slow motion action. To accept the TL:DR trinket is to lobotomize yourself so you can better "fit in" to a dumbed down society lacking in wit and attention-span itself. Its fascinating to see which characters realize the dangers of this contamination in time to arrest its spread and which simply surrender to the inevitability of mono-cultural assimilation.

I trust that makes my thoughts clear on the matter

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Originally by: Jade Constantine

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Originally by: The Mittani

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you replied to a single sentence with two full posts and yet you seem to think this is a more effective method of communication than a solid oneliner, brevity, soul of wit, etc.

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Yes Mittani, yes I did, and I imagine that means I'd make a damned poor goon I suspect. What a shame but I believe the disappointment will pass in time.

The "one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics endlessly propagated down the goon hierarchy from the leaders to the drones and practiced as mono-cultural "passports" to goon e-respect and virtual esteem really have no compelling attraction to me beyond pure anthropomorphic curiosity Mittani. I'm sure you can understand that dear chap, but thank you for quoting the whole of my posts so reliably, it really does make me feel very special.

For the rest however, allow me to explain:

The TL:DR meme is something I consider as a hostile thought-virus resident as a parasite in the goon body politic and I take great pleasure flying in the face of your conventional "wisdom" on these matters. You chaps bring your memes and faux witticisms as the ancient conquistadors brought ailments and plague to isolated civilizations to kill them as surely as their swords and guns. (And all the while you hand out glittering but worthless trinkets of "e-praise" and "madprops" to those natives that greet you with welcome arms and happy animal faces even as they dig their own graves in witless mimicry of invader fashions)

"TL:DR" is the most common of trinkets - thoughtlessly repeated by those hoping to get "in" with the perceived "in crowd" and yet a fully obvious element in the process of cross-cultural suicide in all its gory slasher slow motion action. To accept the TL:DR trinket is to lobotomize yourself so you can better "fit in" to a dumbed down society lacking in wit and attention-span itself. Its fascinating to see which characters realize the dangers of this contamination in time to arrest its spread and which simply surrender to the inevitability of mono-cultural assimilation.

I trust that makes my thoughts clear on the matter

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Vigorous writing is concise. A sentence should contain no unnecessary words, a paragraph no unnecessary sentences, for the same reason that a drawing should have no unnecessary lines and a machine no unnecessary parts.

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Originally by: Baxalusx

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The reason people without numbers ***** about people with numbers is that they aren't good or charismatic enough leaders to gather and maintain that many people as a cohesive entity.

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Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer

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Oh please....

One of the worst types of people in EVE are the Joiners, people who go where the numbers are no matter what.Who chose the statiscally safer option.

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Originally by: Avaricia

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look a goon lol

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Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer

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Originally by: Baxalusx

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The reason people without numbers ***** about people with numbers is that they aren't good or charismatic enough leaders to gather and maintain that many people as a cohesive entity.

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Oh please....

One of the worst types of people in EVE are the Joiners, people who go where the numbers are no matter what.Who chose the statiscally safer option.
"Charismatic" leadership? My eye...

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one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics

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Originally by: Pokcha

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if our

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one-liner" / meme-joke / perl letter script / throwaway pop-culture-theft-mechanics

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are so bad, then why is almost every venue for discussion of EVE littered with them, written by everyone, not just goons? We planned to infect the rest of EVE with our culture at the 1066 GoonFleetMeet. The drunken battle that ensued would forever be known as Hastings.

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Originally by: Sarwaka Foehammer

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Oh please....

One of the worst types of people in EVE are the Joiners, people who go where the numbers are no matter what.Who chose the statiscally safer option.
"Charismatic" leadership? My eye...

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Originally by: Tilta

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(In response to Zorlag above, I think the troll patrol corrupted Mittani rather than vice versa.)

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