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Kellzz
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:05:00 -
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Which ship do you think is the worst/worthless/useless ship in EVE?
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Dimagus
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:09:00 -
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The Failboat, because of it's ever increasing crew size.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:16:00 -
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Apoc, at least till the next patch.
Geddon and abaddon both outtank and out DPS it (geddon has 8 lows, abaddon has resist bonus)
Originally by: Liang Nuren wrong forum isroy i am vjery drunm
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Last Wolf Apoc, at least till the next patch.
Geddon and abaddon both outtank and out DPS it (geddon has 8 lows, abaddon has resist bonus)
Apoc is a more cap-stable sniper than the other two, which is hardly useless.
No, most useless ship is the Procurer. By the time you can use it, your Mining Frigate with Frig III can outperform it. Most ships are at least useful when you first get the skill and cannot use the larger ones of the class (Haulers), but the Procurer is obsolete on arrival. -------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth |

PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:25:00 -
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without people whining and putting in their gripes it would probably be the cargo bonused frigs like the tor and the Nav. Progression to cruiser and indy class ships is quite fast and the window where these ships are effective is very small. They also have no t2 equiv so there is no need for them in invention.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |

Artheon
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:30:00 -
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The little loved or used Procurer.
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ceyriot
Crimson Rebellion
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Artheon The little loved or used Procurer.
This.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:39:00 -
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Hawk
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

mothermoon2
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:49:00 -
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this is far too easy, the eris, it's horrible.
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Biffidus Rex
Southern Cross Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik without people whining and putting in their gripes it would probably be the cargo bonused frigs like the tor and the Nav. Progression to cruiser and indy class ships is quite fast and the window where these ships are effective is very small. They also have no t2 equiv so there is no need for them in invention.
Are you serious? Nothing beats a cargo bonus'd frigate for moving 500m3 of cargo past highsec/lowsec gatecamps. I love my kestrel ;)
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:12:00 -
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Originally by: mothermoon2 this is far too easy, the eris, it's horrible.
Not for fleet. It's actually the fastest interdictor if you fit completely for speed, since it has 4 low slots and the Sabre only has 2. Sure, it has trouble fitting properly and does poor dps even when it does. But, if you resign yourself to the fact that you're just going to move fast, drop bubbles and try to stay alive, then it really is pretty good.
Speeds on tech 2 speed fit interdictors, without rigs, and with navigation and acceleration control trained to 5:
Eris: 3977 m/s Sabre: 3685 m/s Heretic: 3631 m/s Flycatcher: 2662 m/s
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Maglorre
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Artheon The little loved or used Procurer.
Definitely this. The difference in training time is minimal (mining barge I->III and astrogeology III->IV, couple of days max?) to go from this to the Retriever (which can also be outperformed by a battleship, albeit at the cost of RSI in your mouse finger). The only purpose for this ship is as a component in building a Skiff
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:14:00 -
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auguror has to be up there, i use one just to sit around amarr because it has crome rims. -------------
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/03/2008 06:19:10 Mining frigates. After that, shuttles, which can't carry anything, don't tank well, and are slower than interceptors and some OI'd frigates.
edit: and Procurer, like someone said. Procurer was a necessary early step for me in RmR because I was a total newb and the difference between four million isk for Procurer and SM was a world of difference from fourteen million isk for Retriever and two SMs (based on RmR prices.) I'd also say that the Coveter is useless because it only takes a few days to go from Coveter to Hulk, and it isn't like it's hard to get 150 million ISK nowadays.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum After that, shuttles, which can't carry anything, don't tank well,
Yeah, I hear they are really lacking in their tanking capabilities, but at least you can assign templars, Amarr fighter drones, to them.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:24:00 -
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It's the Amarrian astronautics frigate.
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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/03/2008 06:19:10 Mining frigates. After that, shuttles, which can't carry anything, don't tank well, and are slower than interceptors and some OI'd frigates.
edit: and Procurer, like someone said. Procurer was a necessary early step for me in RmR because I was a total newb and the difference between four million isk for Procurer and SM was a world of difference from fourteen million isk for Retriever and two SMs (based on RmR prices.) I'd also say that the Coveter is useless because it only takes a few days to go from Coveter to Hulk, and it isn't like it's hard to get 150 million ISK nowadays.
They may not be great in combat or industry, but I'd say that shuttles are among the more useful ships out there. They have an actual purpose and do it very well, and it would be hard to find an established player out there who hasn't bought piles of them over the years.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:39:00 -
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Ferox ...
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Siege
Originally by: Dirk Magnum Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 07/03/2008 06:19:10 Mining frigates. After that, shuttles, which can't carry anything, don't tank well, and are slower than interceptors and some OI'd frigates.
edit: and Procurer, like someone said. Procurer was a necessary early step for me in RmR because I was a total newb and the difference between four million isk for Procurer and SM was a world of difference from fourteen million isk for Retriever and two SMs (based on RmR prices.) I'd also say that the Coveter is useless because it only takes a few days to go from Coveter to Hulk, and it isn't like it's hard to get 150 million ISK nowadays.
They may not be great in combat or industry, but I'd say that shuttles are among the more useful ships out there. They have an actual purpose and do it very well, and it would be hard to find an established player out there who hasn't bought piles of them over the years.
Their role is to keep veldspar prices from going above 3.4 ISK. 
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Keflin Geard
The Circle STYX.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:42:00 -
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Rokh. Its a big, expensive, slow, bad tracking, bad dps version of a Megathron. It's drone bay stinks and its excellent range bonus is kinda killed by the Sensor Booster script nerf. Granted, its a good alternative to a Raven for fleet combat, but thats the best you can say for it.
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:51:00 -
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Moa or Ferox, but soon to change hopefully.
The Eagle is definetly the worst HAC at the moment so it'd be good to see what the patch does to all 3. Maybes gives us an extra turret hardpoint or two. That'd make all the difference. _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?"
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: Artheon The little loved or used Procurer.
Actually this. Definetly. My friend just went straight to Retriever when training for a barge. _____________________________ "So what do you need, besides a miracle?"
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Frug
Repo Industries R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Thorek Ironbrow Moa or Ferox
I was going to say these ships too, however I do know that there are people who disagree. These ships have their places, even though they seem to be completely garbage.
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timberwolf alpha
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:59:00 -
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Firetail
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Gheeeed
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:05:00 -
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I vote for the hawk, tied with procurer. Second place is ferox.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:12:00 -
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Edited by: techzer0 on 07/03/2008 07:12:39
Originally by: Vitrael It's the Amarrian astronautics frigate.
Proof?
Oh wait... there would have to be an Amarrian astronautics frigate first, wouldn't there. You win the thread  ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster 
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:14:00 -
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Hawk. At least the Procurer is useful as a stepping stone, much like the Wreath is to the Hoarder.
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Schalac
Caldari Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:26:00 -
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Ferox is an awesome ship. I love mine and it is one of the more versatile ships in my collection. Chances are you don't know what it can really do if you dislike it. Then again I'm not an Achura/Drake fan boy like 99% of the Caldari race.
I agree with the Procurer being the most worthless piece of junk on the market though.
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Deadly Addiction Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina Ferox
whats a ferox?
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.03.07 07:51:00 -
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Augoror certainly if considering cruisers.
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