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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
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Posted - 2011.09.08 12:50:00 -
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tl;dr COSMOS missions are old and abandoned by CCP who are too busy playing space barbie while EVE is quickly dieing and failcascading because I NEED THAT MONOCLE.
Seriously though, COSMOS is broken to fudge and back from data center agents to the mission agents giving modules that are worse to fit than T1 in some cases. |

cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:05:00 -
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Jack Tronic wrote:tl;dr COSMOS missions are old and abandoned by CCP who are too busy playing space barbie while EVE is quickly dieing and failcascading because I NEED THAT MONOCLE.
Seriously though, COSMOS is broken to fudge and back from data center agents to the mission agents giving modules that are worse to fit than T1 in some cases.
guess what, i raised the crap cosmos "reward" blueprint issue in the assembly hall and in a petition.
nobody from CSM, bothered to answer.
obviously the CSM is more interested in nerfing wormhole mining so 00 can keep making a fortune on moon stuff and mercoxit.
i dont mind space barbies, but these days CCP spends more in marketing than eve development.
they are EVERYWHERE, half of websites have eve ads
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
13

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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:06:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: To gm homonoia.
please read the 2 petitons on my character 16 august and 2 days ago
I cannot and will not discuss individual or specific petitions or cases on the forums. If you wish to revisit these cases or wish to file a complaint about the way these petitions were handled then that complaint will have to be handled through the petition system. Communication about petitions is considered private and I will not compromise that privacy.
I can assure you, though, that any complaint will be handled with care and taken seriously. A senior GM will always be involved where complaints like these are filed.
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:27:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:The problem with accusing someone of lying is that there is always two sides to the story.
Player: Help me GM I lost my ship to a DC/lag
GM: Our logs show nothing
Player: Your lying, my client wa laggy/dc'd
Both are correct but both could accuse the other of lying about it because neither side has access to the others.
I'd imagine getting to be a DEV/GM in EVE is not something they give away in a crackjack box (maybe apart from the chap who came up with the NEX store) and he/she really has no reason to lie, he /she has a mutlitude of other excuses they can use.
Use the petitioning system to complain not the bloody forums you just come across as a bit of a spoilt child who isn't getting his own way.
tried the petitions , and they didnt bother checking the logs that is why i was asking someone to publish the html images of the conversations, as i cant do this here it wont let me.
and this forum is the only one i know regarding eve.....
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Lu'Marat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:28:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: i guess the answer is HILLMAR
Sorry hon but no, the answer is: You need to get a life.
And I'm not writing this to insult or ridicule you, if you get THIS worked up over something like that, I think you need professional help. |

cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:35:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:cyllan anassan wrote: To gm homonoia.
please read the 2 petitons on my character 16 august and 2 days ago
I cannot and will not discuss individual or specific petitions or cases on the forums. If you wish to revisit these cases or wish to file a complaint about the way these petitions were handled then that complaint will have to be handled through the petition system. Communication about petitions is considered private and I will not compromise that privacy. I can assure you, though, that any complaint will be handled with care and taken seriously. A senior GM will always be involved where complaints like these are filed.
i am not asking you to discuss this on forum, you should actually start an investigation with the logs of the petition and the info from the forums that i have given you
if you think i am going to waste my time again retyping everything to file another PETITION..... i rather quit.... is not worth it. you can take all this comunication as an official petition if you like.... you got 2 already filed.
title of petition
gm lied to me twice data agents in kudi not working asked the gms twice to reset it got told everything BUT that.
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:36:00 -
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Lu'Marat wrote:cyllan anassan wrote: i guess the answer is HILLMAR Sorry hon but no, the answer is: You need to get a life. And I'm not writing this to insult or ridicule you, if you get THIS worked up over something like that, I think you need professional help.
actually this is the last of a long series of gripes with eve
the game is not free is a subscription service, i am addressing standard issues
if you think your subscription is not worth complaining it is your problem
telling me i need professional help because i am complaining is plain disgusting
i invested 2 years of my life playing eve, i got a reason to be angry, well angry |

Kaomond
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:37:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:Signal11th wrote:The problem with accusing someone of lying is that there is always two sides to the story.
Player: Help me GM I lost my ship to a DC/lag
GM: Our logs show nothing
Player: Your lying, my client wa laggy/dc'd
Both are correct but both could accuse the other of lying about it because neither side has access to the others.
I'd imagine getting to be a DEV/GM in EVE is not something they give away in a crackjack box (maybe apart from the chap who came up with the NEX store) and he/she really has no reason to lie, he /she has a mutlitude of other excuses they can use.
Use the petitioning system to complain not the bloody forums you just come across as a bit of a spoilt child who isn't getting his own way. tried the petitions , and they didnt bother checking the logs that is why i was asking someone to publish the html images of the conversations, as i cant do this here it wont let me. and this forum is the only one i know regarding eve.....
No offence meant, but going by the way you posted here it sounds more likely to be more you not comunicating your problem clearly enough to them and they're misunderstanding you, either update your current petition or make a new petition explaining the issue clearly and calmly, step by step, and then place at the end of it "please can i have this issue escelated to a higher level, i would like it dealt with by a senior GM as it involves issues i have with GM's". That should get it to the right person, and hopefully they can help you out. |

Zagam
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
66
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:40:00 -
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I think the horse is thoroughly tenderized now. |

Kaomond
Aliastra Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:41:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: title of petition
gm lied to me twice data agents in kudi not working asked the gms twice to reset it got told everything BUT that.
Yes as i thought... That really says nothing, it's not veryu clear and extremely rude, you need to be more clear and explain exactly what the problem is, not give some vague description that makes little sense.
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:49:00 -
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Kaomond wrote:cyllan anassan wrote:Signal11th wrote:The problem with accusing someone of lying is that there is always two sides to the story.
Player: Help me GM I lost my ship to a DC/lag
GM: Our logs show nothing
Player: Your lying, my client wa laggy/dc'd
Both are correct but both could accuse the other of lying about it because neither side has access to the others.
I'd imagine getting to be a DEV/GM in EVE is not something they give away in a crackjack box (maybe apart from the chap who came up with the NEX store) and he/she really has no reason to lie, he /she has a mutlitude of other excuses they can use.
Use the petitioning system to complain not the bloody forums you just come across as a bit of a spoilt child who isn't getting his own way. tried the petitions , and they didnt bother checking the logs that is why i was asking someone to publish the html images of the conversations, as i cant do this here it wont let me. and this forum is the only one i know regarding eve..... No offence meant, but going by the way you posted here it sounds more likely to be more you not comunicating your problem clearly enough to them and they're misunderstanding you, either update your current petition or make a new petition explaining the issue clearly and calmly, step by step, and then place at the end of it "please can i have this issue escelated to a higher level, i would like it dealt with by a senior GM as it involves issues i have with GM's". That should get it to the right person, and hopefully they can help you out.
the gm i was dealing with wont even pass me to another gm to deal with the problem that he was not even helping me solve.......
the problem is i am too angry to do more petitions, CCP can find another cash cow, in any way there isnt even a complaints department, this is worse than the water companies, how can you file petitions about the same people who deal with them
i asked the gm to escalate the complain he said no, what is there to file another petition for ?
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:54:00 -
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Kaomond wrote:cyllan anassan wrote: title of petition
gm lied to me twice data agents in kudi not working asked the gms twice to reset it got told everything BUT that.
Yes as i thought... That really says nothing, it's not veryu clear and extremely rude, you need to be more clear and explain exactly what the problem is, not give some vague description that makes little sense.
have you even read the first post? or my subsequent replies? no really....... if eve was such a fantastic managed game we would have millions of players, we dont, so stop excusing a complain you know nothing about |

baltec1
25
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:54:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:
if the game is so wondefully managed.... why after the last 4 expansions the increase in players is like 2.4%. you want to help me give me you email address and publish the contects of the 2 petitions....
Economic growth in the UK this year is going to be around 1.1%
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Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
99
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Posted - 2011.09.08 13:55:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote: they are EVERYWHERE, half of websites have eve ads
I'm pretty sure this is only due to the fact that Google serves ads to a lot of websites. Those ads are usually tailored to you. So if you search "EVE" a lot, you'll see it a lot.
Fly Safe, Die Hard |

Brooks Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
55
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:04:00 -
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This is a horrible thread.
First your wasting the GMs time by not properly escalating the petitions, but instead asking for a "full investigation" on the GMs who tried to help you and what the situation is.
Second your blaming the CSM for not looking/taking seriously your COSMOS BP idea. You do realize there are a multitude of other idea, issues, concerns that the CSM could be and are looking into. When it comes to COSMOS there are very few who actually care about it so its pretty much at the bottom of the list. Though it is true that COSMOS is just another feature thats buggy and incomplete and left to rot.
Lastly and most important...Use proper sentences and paragraph structure. I mean honestly it doesn't have to be perfect but having two line spacing between every sentence is horrific. |

Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA KRYSIS.
0
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:04:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:i invested 2 years of my life playing eve, i got a reason to be angry, well angry
Then you really do need a life.
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Joe Skellington
Matari Legion Holding Matari Legion
10
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:41:00 -
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I had a Cosmos agent expire after a few hours and I had spent a long time farming items for it, I didn't rage quit over it. -á-á |\_/|-á -á/ @ @ \ -á-á -á( > -¦ < )-á -á`-+-+x-½-½-¦ -á-á / O \ |

Lu'Marat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:43:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:
actually this is the last of a long series of gripes with eve
the game is not free is a subscription service, i am addressing standard issues
if you think your subscription is not worth complaining it is your problem
telling me i need professional help because i am complaining is plain disgusting
i invested 2 years of my life playing eve, i got a reason to be angry, well angry
Dear, you are not addressing issues, or complaining, I wouldn't even say you are angry. You are throwing a tantrum. Right now you are the proverbial toddler clutching mommy's shopping cart screaming your lungs off because you didn't get what you want.
Now, I'm sure you and EVE go way back, I'm sure you've been disappointed before, I'm sure you feel you've got the right to complain. Trust me, you're not alone in that. But what you are doing right now is not going to help you get your petitions resolved, or your bugs fixed, all you do is make a fool of yourself.
Because, believe it or not, it's not the toddler people feel sorry for, it's mommy, because we've all been there. |

Istyn
Tactical Knightmare
1
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Posted - 2011.09.08 14:54:00 -
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Joe Skellington wrote:I had a Cosmos agent expire after a few hours and I had spent a long time farming items for it, I didn't rage quit over it.
You're doing it wrong. |

CPJS
Death Troopers IMPERIAL LEGI0N
0
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Posted - 2011.09.08 15:15:00 -
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I blame the OP you clearly didn't do it right.
What you should have done is........... |

cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 15:45:00 -
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Lu'Marat wrote:cyllan anassan wrote:
actually this is the last of a long series of gripes with eve
the game is not free is a subscription service, i am addressing standard issues
if you think your subscription is not worth complaining it is your problem
telling me i need professional help because i am complaining is plain disgusting
i invested 2 years of my life playing eve, i got a reason to be angry, well angry
Dear, you are not addressing issues, or complaining, I wouldn't even say you are angry. You are throwing a tantrum. Right now you are the proverbial toddler clutching mommy's shopping cart screaming your lungs off because you didn't get what you want. Now, I'm sure you and EVE go way back, I'm sure you've been disappointed before, I'm sure you feel you've got the right to complain. Trust me, you're not alone in that. But what you are doing right now is not going to help you get your petitions resolved, or your bugs fixed, all you do is make a fool of yourself. Because, believe it or not, it's not the toddler people feel sorry for, it's mommy, because we've all been there.
actually what is sad is the people who are siding with CCP and the GMs on this issue.
i have offered to send the transcrips to anyone who can post them online on html format
i have explained how the focus of the company is not to make the game better is to make money,
my posts have been seen by gms and devs, and nothing has happened.
that tellls you all about complains handling and how much the company cares about his players.
idiotic posts about mommy and toddlers are just that, idiotic.
at the end of the day i filled 2 petitions , and closed them when i realized i was getting brushed off and lied to.
my first post also mention a dozen serious issues about current eve.
nobody is talking about them,
just flaming..... "cant write in english!!!!, cant file a petition!!!!!, leave you are not wanted.....!!! , what is this bullshit...!!!!."
take some pills....!!!!!"
yeah that is the wonderfull eve comunity one more reason to go.
thanks for nothing chaps, see how much your titans are worth in a couple of years fanbois.
to the people who gave me the thumbs up thanks i apreciate it...... done more than the people that get paid for it
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.08 17:13:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:This is a horrible thread.
First your wasting the GMs time by not properly escalating the petitions, but instead asking for a "full investigation" on the GMs who tried to help you and what the situation is.
Second your blaming the CSM for not looking/taking seriously your COSMOS BP idea. You do realize there are a multitude of other idea, issues, concerns that the CSM could be and are looking into. When it comes to COSMOS there are very few who actually care about it so its pretty much at the bottom of the list. Though it is true that COSMOS is just another feature thats buggy and incomplete and left to rot.
Lastly and most important...Use proper sentences and paragraph structure. I mean honestly it doesn't have to be perfect but having two line spacing between every sentence is horrific.
Ok let me spell this for you
1-one of the gms was a senior one, i ended up feeling i was trying to cheat him, then the second lying one tells me what i am
complaining about is bugged.... (he did the same 3 weeks before about same issue, and i swear to you there is nothing bugged.....) so escalate what? to whom?, the same people i am complaining about?
2-This blueprints issue, is many many years old, it should have been picked/sorted up by CSM/ or CCP, MANY YEARS AGO.
in any case it was on the assembly hall and no CSM bothered to say anything........or CCP.
3- i have re-edited original post, the 2 spaces between lines is actually to make the writing less condensed and easier to read
as people were complaining they needed magnifying glasses
4- last one wasting gms time.........
dude they havent done zip about this what time wasted?, the petitions are closed, i am unsubsbring the game from my anual bill
in a month and that is it.....
even the form i filled with the subscription cancellation has been ignored.........
they dont give a f**k , i 'll leave it at that
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Lu'Marat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.09.08 21:22:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:
diverse rambling
Alright, I retract my statement. You are not throwing a tantrum and you do not need help. You are a troll, fair and square. Nobody is this ridiculous unless on purpose. Well done, I really didn't spot it first time round. |

mentalkiller
W0lfz. Fat Raptor Ltd
3
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Posted - 2011.09.08 21:33:00 -
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So you are into something called Amarr Blood Datacenters which who knows what it is, you read the magazines, and know what CSM do and where they fly to?
Sir, you are a complete carebear and stalker /mentalKiller |

cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:43:00 -
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Lu'Marat wrote:cyllan anassan wrote:
diverse rambling
Alright, I retract my statement. You are not throwing a tantrum and you do not need help. You are a troll, fair and square. Nobody is this ridiculous unless on purpose. Well done, I really didn't spot it first time round.
i never wrote that.
i dont use the word rambling, rambling is a term for demented people and i dont use much i certainly havent used it in my posts
i also dont use the word troll, because it doesnt mean anything in english and because i know what a troll looks like.
it is normally a term used when somebody says something you dont agree with ,
in your case you could be called a troll if i liked to use that word, i dont,
in your case it would be more like fanboi....
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cyllan anassan
DEUS EX 1
8
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:47:00 -
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mentalkiller wrote:So you are into something called Amarr Blood Datacenters which who knows what it is, you read the magazines, and know what CSM do and where they fly to?
Sir, you are a complete carebear and stalker
go easy on the drugs please.......
i just can and do read stuff.
try it sometime you might learn something
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RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
20
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:51:00 -
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I actually have a petition that has a GM caught red handed lying and me having to get another GM to intervene and apologize for the lying. And then the second GM just said your SOL to me anyway. Even after showing that what happened should not have happened and being lied too. Whole thing left me feeling the whole process was worthless. Gutter level customer service especially considering it took days to get looked at and then lied to blatantly.
After one more LOGS THROW NOTHING auto response I just don't even bother anymore. Its just a giant stone wall dressed up as customer service. Complete hogwash, or at the very least most GMs I get have giant rods up their backsides and don't know anything about customer service.
Overall my general view of CCP top to bottom is very negative. And it did not start out that way. CCP made it that way.
And before you say GMs are volunteers and what not. They still represent CCP and affect the image people have of CCP. |

RougeOperator
Autocannons Anonymous
20
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:52:00 -
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I never double posted on the old forums.
Le sigh. |

baltec1
25
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:55:00 -
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Yet every time I have needed to get a GM involved I have had good service. Even got my ship back. |

Lu'Marat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.09.09 09:21:00 -
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cyllan anassan wrote:Lu'Marat wrote:cyllan anassan wrote:
diverse rambling
Alright, I retract my statement. You are not throwing a tantrum and you do not need help. You are a troll, fair and square. Nobody is this ridiculous unless on purpose. Well done, I really didn't spot it first time round. i never wrote that. i dont use the word rambling, rambling is a term for demented people and i dont use much i certainly havent used it in my posts i also dont use the word troll, because it doesnt mean anything in english and because i know what a troll looks like. it is normally a term used when somebody says something you dont agree with , in your case you could be called a troll if i liked to use that word, i dont, in your case it would be more like fanboi....
Alright, you've got to be kidding me.. You never wrote "diverse ramblings"? Really? I... wow. Alright, I'll just come out and say it: I wrote that to sum up (and, admittedly, ridicule) the, yes, ramblings you spread in your previous post(s), because I didn't want a screen-long quote wall. I apologize if that got you thinking I was implying you actually used the word "rambling".
I have to say though, seeing you flame me for my choice of words in one sentence and calling me a "fanboi" in the next made me laugh. Cudos for that. I'm still not entirely convinced that you didn't start this thread just for the sh*ts and giggles.
But, just in case you are serious, let me explain my position here. I am, by no means, a "fanboi" [sic] of CCP's. I have a lot of respect for the actual devs, the designers and coders and masterminds who create EVE's content, because I believe it to be a brilliant, if severely run-down game. I more and more grow disillusioned and angry at CCP management for what they are doing with the game and where they are heading. As for GMs and customer support in general, I've only needed them once or twice myself in all my years, and they responded almost instantly and resolved my case without a hitch.
That said, I have worked in customer support before, for another MMO. If your posts in this thread are -anything- like your usual communication efforts on the internet and anything like your petitions, I can see quite clearly why a GM with a less-than-transcendant amount of calm and goodwill may have found it troublesome to respond to your satisfaction. I can also see why any senior GM who looked into the case would've probably backed up your original GMs. In fact, if I take your thread, and compare it to threads back from work and the petitions they were related to, I'm impressed they still let you post.
So, that was the blunt and honest of where I am in this. I'm sure you don't care, because as has been established, the GMs are a bunch of lying hush-hush-coverups, THEY are out to get you, and I am just a drivelling fanboy. |
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