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Earl de'Hamsterdam
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Miki Fin
I'm sorry, so you don't find one mission fun and you want a whole rework of the mission system? 
I don't find ECM fun. There is no "strategy" fighting ECM NPC's, other than trying to kill them first. It isn't stimulating, it's boring.
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Orin Valari
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:31:00 -
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you're right I never thought of all the possibilites.. you can... kill them. Or bring a friend and he can kill them.
You must have read up on your sun tzu and your machiavelli cause you sir are a prince and a tactician.
I guess I have a lot to learn about true tactics!
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Miki Fin
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Orin Valari
you're right I never thought of all the possibilites.. you can... kill them. Or bring a friend and he can kill them.
I don't get your point there tbh. The objective in all kill missions is to...err...kill the npcs?
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Orin Valari
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:36:00 -
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My point is you make it sound like the mission is your canvas, and the plethora of tactics available to you are your paints.
But it isn't as exciting as you're making it sound.
I can right click, load defenders... which do crap damage
I can bring a friend, okay I'll give you that one
I can fit ECCM.. oh wait!
or... I can kill them when I'm not jammed.
Am I missing anything? Brilliant tactics!
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Earl de'Hamsterdam
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:38:00 -
[95]
 Uh-BuuuuH!?!
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Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.15 20:48:00 -
[96]
Tactics are for pvp and missions are for grinding lp and isk. Missions don't really have any tactical depth designed into them past bringing a friend for the occasional hard one.
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Q: WTF! Why?!
A: Because I can.
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Ghalid
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 21:18:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
Maybe you should add Counter ECM?
Originally by: Amaron Ghant
Force me to dither between damage mods and ECCM mods.
Originally by: Lord Fitz
ECCM, Drones, FoFs or bring a wingman. 4 ways to counter this without CCPs involvment.
Originally by: Dr McTurtle
A: ECCM works. without ECCM I get jammed like you do, with 2 midslot ECCM I get jammed maybe 1-2 cycles per hour.
Orin you're such a whiny little n00b! Why don't you just fit ECCM! Oh wait. ECCM doesn't work? So all of these hardened mission runners have no idea what they're talking about? Huh. Did any of you even bother to read the first post or was the urge to show off your e-***** too great?
To reiterate:
Originally by: Lord Fitz
ECCM is not going to slow you down any.
That's right Fitz! In addition to not slowing you down, it will do precisely nothing!
Any way you look at it, the spirit of Orins argument is correct. Missions are boring as hell, and jamming is obnoxious. You all say "adapt" and develop "new tactics" to deal with the issue. How about a list - McTurtle style!
A: When you're jammed, drones decide to shoot whoever the hell they please. In my experience they don't value ewar targets any higher than anything else.
B: FoF missiles do **** damage, which means that it takes forever to kill anything of any size. Good tactic.
C: Find a new, non Caldari Navy agent. Isn't this another way of saying "take your ball and go home"? Good tactic...
Let's try this instead:
A: More intelligent NPC's. That is, design them in such a way as they don't just hit the CPU equivalent of F1 - Fx.
B: Make NPC damage and strength more on par with actual players.
C: Make NPC ships behave as they do against other players. Why is it that I can't neut the hell out of an NPC to shut down his tank?
D: Make NPC modules behave as they do against other players. That means fixing ECCM (It doesn't do anything you idiots).
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Alex Raptos
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.15 21:25:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Earl de'Hamsterdam
Originally by: Zeba
K. Thats your problem. The Assault in not meant to be efficiently ran as a solo mission. Bring a friend or alt next time and you will have no issues with it. The giveaway for these types of missions is the 'We request that you gather a group of battle-harened pilots and take them on.' line that gets tossed into the briefing. You can solo them but your not going to do it in any reasonable amount of time.
Fair enough, although in this particular mission the person who tanks can expect to do little to nothing except sit there for an hour or two. However, EW NPCs are found in a variety of other missions offered by the Caldari Navy. I personally run CN missions because I want one of those CNR's.
Caldari navy are not the only ones to offer those, any caldari combat oriented corp does.
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Ghalid
The Sycorax Syndicate
The Cooperative
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Posted - 2008.03.15 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Andrue
Oh, and @ the OP:Sorry but you are carebear. You are asking for the game to be changed because you can't adapt.
Originally by: Miki Fin
You are the definition of carebear. "Oh noes!! I can't do something!! CCP, you must change the game to suit me!!
You both fit the definition of ignorant. You simply can't fathom the idea that there is vast room for improvement in missions. These reactions are simply mind boggling.
Hey guys, how about we make missions really cool and make it so that you can never target anything. Really cool! Adapt or die right?
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