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The Reclaimer	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:12:00 - [61] Quote: Is this the only emoticon Xanadu can use?
Reah	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:15:00 - [62] Quote: Quote: Is this the only emoticon Xanadu can use?
Smacktastic	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:17:00 - [63] You're all KOS. Signed. ---------------------------------- Moderator @ www.killer-clowns.com
Insane Angel	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:19:00 - [64] Edited by: Insane Angel on 12/04/2004 03:20:53 Last I checked we were referred to ourselves as the FA, not the NFA. That "originality" as stated by you, comes from you not us. Aneu. It was fun sitting there waiting for you to come and watch 8 BSs shoot up 22 BSs and watch as 3 of your BSs warp away with heavy damage. (smart ofc) Needless to say, you didnt prove anything. We left because staying is suicide which will prove nothing on our part. Remo wasnt leading our force, someone with skill and thoughtfulness had the courage to lead an outnumbered force that inflicted damage without suffering any losses at all. NPCs are in the belts, have fun with them. Those will be your only victories. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud Member of the FA.
Voltaire Leriel	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:19:00 - [65] Edited by: Voltaire Leriel on 12/04/2004 03:20:25 whats all this stuff about the "NFA" i think thats a term that first popped up in a non-FA member's post as far as i know we didnt change the name. still just "Fountain Alliance". Voltaire's EVE Online Desktop Wallpapers http://www.big-eve.com
Voltaire Leriel	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:23:00 - [66] Quote: Needless to say, you didnt prove anything. We left because staying is suicide which will prove nothing on our part. Insane Angel There is bravery and then there is stupidity. honestly, if they would have been brave and noble like you seem to think they should have, you probobly would have still posted that we where stupid for loosing all 8 ships. Voltaire's EVE Online Desktop Wallpapers http://www.big-eve.com
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:39:00 - [67] Quote: Edited by: Insane Angel on 12/04/2004 03:20:53 Last I checked we were referred to ourselves as the FA, not the NFA. That "originality" as stated by you, comes from you not us. Aneu. It was fun sitting there waiting for you to come and watch 8 BSs shoot up 22 BSs and watch as 3 of your BSs warp away with heavy damage. (smart ofc) Needless to say, you didnt prove anything. We left because staying is suicide which will prove nothing on our part. Remo wasnt leading our force, someone with skill and thoughtfulness had the courage to lead an outnumbered force that inflicted damage without suffering any losses at all. NPCs are in the belts, have fun with them. Those will be your only victories. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud Member of the FA. Im glad we got the fight on FRAPS... we can now proove that the CEO of EveMarshals is a blatant lier... thank you. None of our ships suffered heavy damage, i warped to my alt placed in the d4k system 1au behind your position, only to warp back in ontop of you, by which time you had warped. So please dont go making up complete and utter bollox... you didnt harm any of ours ships. Tnx Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Kcel Chim	Posted - 2004.04.12 03:44:00 - [68] hahahahahha Aneu calling other ppl liars. That was the best one of the whole thread. gn8 cba to post all your logs aneu, eventho its highly amusing when you acted as a FA spokesperson while beeing just on trial, or did you already forget about your "merits" ? Anyways no more flaming for me. GG Revol you avoided fighting today, apparently the numbers didnt fit your style and you couldnt dare to leave d4ku/hophib, so lets just hope for battles 2morrow and stop the kidsplay with that. So far only lots of talk but no action.
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.12 04:20:00 - [69] Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 12/04/2004 04:36:30 So far we've taken out 6-7 bs's since the new fountain started.. They are totally awesome at pvp... The funny thing is that its the dead weight they cut thats pwning them. :) ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
banker	Posted - 2004.04.12 04:41:00 - [70] it seems to me that FA is headed down the road of stain. soon FA will be no more on the other hand it should prove interesting to see if this "revolution" has what it takes to oust the current regime. or will other sharks show up in the wates of fountian attrated by the promise of fresh blod and easy pickings. i know ill be watching this one for a while. but i doubt it will ever get to an epic scale that the CA SA war did at its most feverish points. good luck to the revolution may FA FAll hard.
Darim Jund	Posted - 2004.04.12 06:02:00 - [71] I, for one, am glad that HHI and HVI (heard that HHI and HVI have merged) have been thrown out of the FA. I know IÆm not the only one in the FA who had a hard time with the idea of protecting a corporation that condoned and supported corporate theft. It made the FA look like a bunch of hypocrites. We prosecuted corporate thieves to the fullest extent in the FA, putting corporate thieves on the KOS. Then, this incident occurred: SIM-HHI Corp Theft Incident A fellow FA member, one that we fought hard with side by side, committing, condoning and supporting one of the lowest and most despicable acts in game, corporate theft. I was in AFHI when the infamous Agent Shield and Parthon committed this heinous act on us. It utterly destroyed us. I watched as AFHI, a corporation built on trust and friendship get utterly decimated by this theft. We were a proud and wealthy corporation, but the theft left us a shell of corporation. Many members, including myself, left the game and lost contact with each other; I personally have just returned and am just exploring Eve by myself. I knew a few people in HHI and they some AFHI members, they knew the impact corporate theft had on us and yet they supported it. I was completely shocked to say the least. The issue was brought before the FA Council along with punishment for HHI, but due to the FA Constitution not having any legal recourse on a FA CorporationÆs member, it was dropped. To me, this was the first failure, one of many, of the FA Council. The FA were hypocrites, condemning corporate thefts only if FA corporate members did not commit them. Yet, all corporations defended HHI vigorously attacks. They all kept the word in mutually defending one another, even though the majority of them despised corporate thefts. FA finally did the right thing and threw these scum bags out of the alliance. It was four months to late though and the damage has been done. I hope the new alliance has the honor and dignity to apologize to SIM and the rest of the Eve community for aiding and abetting the corporate thieving scum that reside in HVI and Rev0lution. If you re-read the entire thread, pointed out above, itÆs funny to see how you see the Rev0lution scum asking for CA support. Remember CA, these guys committed hangar theft on one of your member corporations and now in this thread they have the audacity to ask you for your support. I know you guys will make the right decision, if you donÆt, youÆre no better than FA was with HHI in it and itÆs a definite slap in the face to SIM. To the remaining FA members, you have seen what lengths HHI/HVI and Rev0lution have gone to with people they are at war with. You are now in a defacto state of war with them. Remain vigilant and cautious, they will try to infiltrate your corporation and they will try to commit corporate theft. You, FA, did the right thing. Do not let these petty corporate thieves get away with it. ------------------------------------------- Corporate Theives and their supporters: Lester Mako, Remo Williams, Sith Ewok, Aerick Dawn, Cawt Yrmanlookin All Former HHI members. The Proof
Absurd	Posted - 2004.04.12 06:06:00 - [72] What about the Techell theft? I recall a person from Aggressive Faction Defence Technologies helped with the theft in a way since he moved the ships and then stole ships from the original theif and that led to Agent Shield stealing from Aggressive Faction Defence Technologies. Quick to forget are we?
MindBender	Posted - 2004.04.12 06:32:00 - [73] Quote: Edited by: TornSoul on 11/04/2004 22:50:53 Quote: Two questions for TornSoul: How can the new members and future members be sure that they will not be "repaired" themselves ? Theres only one way - Show dedication to the FA. Failing that - Yes they'll get 'repaired'. That goes for everyone (including BIG, Xan etc). Membership of the FA is not a free ride. And it's not an automatic lifetime membership either. When you get a job you dont stop working either do you? If you do... You wont have that job for long. BULL !!!!!!!!!! Although Freedom Foundation was 1 of the smallest corps in the old alliance we consistantly supplied defence for the region whenever needed. Every member of our corp online at times of emergency went to every fight since the beginning. I remember times when out 20 member corp fielded more BattleShips for defence of Fountain than any other corp in the alliance with the exception of EVOL. We would have 9-10 BS defending while the much larger corps including BIG and Xan sent 3-4 while their other members continued to mine. Yet, because we have not had a large presence in fountain in the last few weeks, we were summarily removed from the alliance.
Kakalot	Posted - 2004.04.12 06:45:00 - [74] Quote: BULL !!!!!!!!!! Although Freedom Foundation was 1 of the smallest corps in the old alliance we consistantly supplied defence for the region whenever needed. Every member of our corp online at times of emergency went to every fight since the beginning. I remember times when out 20 member corp fielded more BattleShips for defence of Fountain than any other corp in the alliance with the exception of EVOL. We would have 9-10 BS defending while the much larger corps including BIG and Xan sent 3-4 while their other members continued to mine. Yet, because we have not had a large presence in fountain in the last few weeks, we were summarily removed from the alliance. Tell me, whatcha gunna do about it ________________________________________________________ http://users.pandora.be/zebras/Kakalot.jpg
Pulgor	Posted - 2004.04.12 06:45:00 - [75] Quote: How can it be described as "repairs" (sorry to use an anology but..) If you cars engine is not working as it should - What do you do? You repair it. This might include replacing broken parts. But it's still the same old car Well, I told Wetwork to repair my car once and he said, "Look nancy boy! I didn't go to law school to repair your two bit grease mobile!" After that he yelled "Banzi!" and threw a pipe wrench at me... Now that I think about it, this has nothing to do with the topic. ----------------------------------- Pulgor --- In service to Saram. Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
Bogenhagen	Posted - 2004.04.12 07:26:00 - [76] Quote: Im glad we got the fight on FRAPS... we can now proove that the CEO of EveMarshals is a blatant lier... thank you. None of our ships suffered heavy damage, i warped to my alt placed in the d4k system 1au behind your position, only to warp back in ontop of you, by which time you had warped. So please dont go making up complete and utter bollox... you didnt harm any of ours ships. Tnx Aneu Blantant liar (yes it is spelled liar not lier )? I've seen you assume much about your battles, and when you see a ship warp away, do you not assume the left due to damage? Not because someone can't control their alts in PvP the same time as their main. Quit your ****ing contest Aneu...
FOL1	Posted - 2004.04.12 07:42:00 - [77] Lyzander, please tell me what you lost when you were podded. I will try to reinburse you myself, as I have known since release and I know you to be a trust worthy nice guy. Im sorry you were podded, :( --------------------------------------------- http://www.coredomination.com
Sun Wu	Posted - 2004.04.12 08:46:00 - [78] Quote: I don't think Aneu knows that Eve has multiple solar systems in it. So posts this Xan alt Well, I really don't know where to start :P Detaitiv, a xan alt :P ROFL!!!!!! Umm yea.... Trixie honey, open up the game once in a while, search for detaitiv and check who he is... But really, you should know atleast the main names of the main corps that you were in an alliance with -.- Then again that prolly is why said alliance had to do these repairs. ________________________________
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2004.04.12 08:50:00 - [79] Cool. Back to NPC hunting. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
dabster	Posted - 2004.04.12 09:43:00 - [80] Just out of curiosity, how come Rev0l usually pick US prime-time to attack..or has the past days atleast? Do you guys dont have euros maybe? ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Drahcir Nasom	Posted - 2004.04.12 11:08:00 - [81] Quote: We had 60? ships in YZ-lql the entire day. Yes, you had 60 ships in YZ podding members of corps you were told not to atatck even if they were just flying around in shuttles. At least one member of INDEP who are clearly on your "Friendly ex-mamber" list was podded in his shuttle by Psygognis from Xanadu with a 1400mm cannon on a Tempest. How brave of him. Drahcir Nasom
Baun	Posted - 2004.04.12 12:53:00 - [82] Quote: Quote: We had 60? ships in YZ-lql the entire day. Yes, you had 60 ships in YZ podding members of corps you were told not to atatck even if they were just flying around in shuttles. At least one member of INDEP who are clearly on your "Friendly ex-mamber" list was podded in his shuttle by Psygognis from Xanadu with a 1400mm cannon on a Tempest. How brave of him. Drahcir Nasom Presuming this happened AFTER the official classification of TFF then the ship and mods will be replaced. We have already made a commitment to do so. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.04.12 14:44:00 - [83] Please be respectful of others at all times. This also means no trolling or flaming Thank you for your cooperation I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Ezra	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:00:00 - [84] Quote: To me, this was the first failure, one of many, of the FA Council. The FA were hypocrites, condemning corporate thefts only if FA corporate members did not commit them. Yet, all corporations defended HHI vigorously attacks. They all kept the word in mutually defending one another, even though the majority of them despised corporate thefts. FA finally did the right thing and threw these scum bags out of the alliance. It was four months to late though and the damage has been done. I hope the new alliance has the honor and dignity to apologize to SIM and the rest of the Eve community for aiding and abetting the corporate thieving scum that reside in HVI and Rev0lution. I would say that the aforementioned HHI-SIM theft incident was the beginning of all of this mess. Quite a few Fountain alliance corporations wanted HHI out because they were a PR nightmare. Unfortunately, because there were so many deadweight corporations that refused to vote "yes" to ANY change in the alliance because it would require them to actually contribute that such a measure could not pass. Essentially, democracy failed in the FA. Too many corps were given voting power that exceeded their contributions to the alliance. I haven't been playing much lately, but I'm glad to see this finally happen. (It's been discussed off and on by some corps for over 2 months... The corps that got the b00t were given plenty of chances to shape up before they were forced to ship out.) ------------ Ezra Cornell pe0n, Xanadu Corporation
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:10:00 - [85] Edited by: Aerick Dawn on 12/04/2004 15:30:15 As stated before, the SIM debacle was performed by an HHI member that acted on his own accord, and not directed by any CEO or director. That person has been banned from the HHI website, and has already been killed by them at least once. Last thing I heard was the member in question is now in M0o. As xanadu clearly knows, you cannot control every member of your corp. Do not paint the picture that the entire corp should be to blame, that is not fair, and is slanderous to say the least. Now as far as the corps contributing to the alliance, HHI did its part. Many of the corps in the new FA have not contributed much of anything. Xanadu and BIG actually were quite slow to respond to the threat that m0o and FE posed. BIG didn't really even show up, Xanadu did show up, and performed during the euro timeslot. They were virtually non-existant during US times however. You may say that your a euro corp, but you are the largest corp in the game, it's your issue if you can't recruit US players. They'll tell you that we didn't pull our weight at night. They are referring to an incident that happened one night out of the entire 8 weeks of the siege were the gang leader made a mistake, and now continue to profess that us players were worthless in their efforts to defend against a siege that comprised of mostly US players on the enemy side. The US players inflicted heavy losses on the enemy towards the midpoint and last half of the struggle. Realize that many if not most of Fountain had no pvp experience including the euro players. The big corps basically went back to empire and called it a lost cause. Many people saw Xanadu and BIG members frolicking about in empire space while all of the rest spent every waking moment defending the region of space called Fountain. I was one of those members, and every night we didn't see BIG or Xan members, or one of the deadweight corps that are now part of the new FA not fighting, but filling their holds full of dirt ore in empire space. Many of these players became quite disgruntled due to the nonaction of their supposed brothers in arms. HHI has been hit with slander many times by Xanadu, but here's the simple truth. Every member of HHI dropped everything they were doing and got into Fountain and fought every night and did not have a source of income for 56 days straight. Our war chest was nearly cleaned out. Would you call that dedication or deadweight? The labeling of these corporations as deadweight is complete slander, and we will have none of it. As you can plainly see many of these members of the US primetime pool formed their own corporation known as Rev0lution and want none of the politics that Xanadu and others provide. The only politics that have effect in the EVE universe is the business end of a gun, and I would encourage Xanadu to speak with that if you want your message to be heard. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Solwolf	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:10:00 - [86] Quote: What about the Techell theft? I recall a person from Aggressive Faction Defence Technologies helped with the theft in a way since he moved the ships and then stole ships from the original theif and that led to Agent Shield stealing from Aggressive Faction Defence Technologies. Quick to forget are we? Absurd, You're mistaken. Please get your facts straight before you make accusations like this in the future. If you make this accusation again, would provide some evidence to back it up? P.S. Eris, I'm still wondering if you're single?
Moonlight Express	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:14:00 - [87] Well, this is from an independent voice and I do admit I donÆt know much, but from what IÆm reading, looks like FA kicked the right people from their alliance. If these people are that resentful now, they must have been that way before they got booted. They must have been a disruptive factor in an alliance and that alone is reason enough to kick them out. If you have a disgruntled employee that keeps bad mouthing you and not producing on the job, are you going to keep paying him for that or are you going to fire him? Look at all the insults and threads started by them. Expulsion must have been deserved. As for Revolution being so honorable, why are they asking for pirates to come join them if they are not pirating? Are the pirates going to come and escort the innocent from FA space like Revolution is claiming that they are doing? Looks to me like making a deal with the wolf to kill the Shepard. This is just my humble opinion. No affiliation with anyone. Peace to all.
Ronyo Dae'Loki	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:15:00 - [88] Quote: Unfortunately, because there were so many deadweight corporations that refused to vote "yes" to ANY change in the alliance because it would require them to actually contribute that such a measure could not pass. In fact, it wasn't even so much that corporations would vote "yes" or "no" on things, but rather that there were corps who would either vote "abstain" all the time or always vote against every little change, etc. The problem was that nothing big could actually be done--corps couldn't be removed and other major changes couldn't take place without a 2/3 vote, and with enough people voting "abstain" instead of yes or no, the vote would fail. They could freeze the vote up without even giving their position on the matter. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . )
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:18:00 - [89] Eris, I'm still wondering if you're single? Your not minmatar love so even if I was single, you had no chance I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.12 15:27:00 - [90] Ronyo, you know the voting rules, and Muaddid stated it an infinite amount of times... Abstain = No in these types of votes. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..

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