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Kakalot	Posted - 2004.04.12 23:36:00 - [181] Quote: Quote: Quote: the announcement here was the first i had seen of any public announcement of changes in the FA You missed an earlier locked thread wherein an FA memo was publically announced. In this memo the action was declared a Coup by those involved. This announcement is an announcement relating to the resolution of this Coup. Fair enough, but i would have expected there to have been continuity in the use of langauge between announcements. Not everyone who reads the boards does/is able to read every single thread. Therefore the point that this post would appear to be attempting to put a positive spin on the events therefore stands. Exactly, quite simple yet some ppl just ... dont get it. ________________________________________________________ http://users.pandora.be/zebras/Kakalot.jpg
Argon	Posted - 2004.04.12 23:43:00 - [182] Of corse, which is why i think it is always a good thing to have a single public voice for an alliance. Some Corps/groups i have known in the past have even gone as far as to have accounts/characters specifically for the job (something like FA Diplomat, for example) to avoid problems such as you state, and to provide points of contact for anyone who needs one. Makes shure things like this dont happen, and helps ensure that what any one member says doesnt indicate 'policy' to those reading, rather policy/relations/announcements are only that which are indicated by the spokesperson. I am shure some corps with active members on these boards have found themselfs in a position before where a member has run away with themselfs and said something which caused problems for the corp later.
Baun	Posted - 2004.04.12 23:46:00 - [183] Quote: Exactly, quite simple yet some ppl just ... dont get it. How would you, having admittedly not read what I have written have any idea as to whether I do or do not get it? Stop Trolling. If you want to participate, at least put some token effort into it like Ridarri. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.13 00:01:00 - [184] /me exits the discussion considering it has now degenerated into babble. ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Kakalot	Posted - 2004.04.13 00:33:00 - [185] Quote: Edited by: Baun on 12/04/2004 23:44:33 Quote: Fair enough, but i would have expected there to have been continuity in the use of langauge between announcements. Not everyone who reads the boards does/is able to read every single thread. Therefore the point that this post would appear to be attempting to put a positive spin on the events therefore stands. That is a fair assesment. One has to keep in mind, however, that the statements were written by two different individuals and that the second statement had little need to refer to the coup itself as it was a summary of its results more than anything else. I think the idea that the event needed a possitive spin assumes a negative view of it. In my mind the post would have been unchanged by the inclusion of the word coup. Thats what you think/assume/perceive etc etc etc. An average player/outsider doesn not think the same Baun. You dont need to admit that you were wrong, just stop posting :P OR you can spin it, i guess :S ________________________________________________________ http://users.pandora.be/zebras/Kakalot.jpg
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.04.13 00:38:00 - [186] Quote: /me exits the discussion considering it has now degenerated into babble. I have to agree... lets continue with killing Xanadu and their allies in fountain... 1 scorp just died. Thank you for the thrill Evenflow... ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Insane Angel	Posted - 2004.04.13 01:28:00 - [187] Edited by: Insane Angel on 13/04/2004 01:29:56 LOL. Five pages since my last post (work). Skimmed most of it from there to my current post (this one). Aneu. Absolutely I am a liar. Anyone who claims not to be a liar is a liar. As far as ship damage/losses in the 8BSs(FA) vs. 22BSs(Pirates). There were none. The only damage to any ship was probably to Stans as all of you hate him for some reason (BTW Stan I'll be in your gang anyday). I remeber ANN S losing shields and then receiving major armor damage as she warped. My other 3 targets had also been hit by my gang and me and they had no shields. See Aneu, its not like mining. Roids dont have those little status bars that show the shields/armor/structure going down around the side of the ships. The left side is the sheilds, the first half on the right side is armor while the last half is structure. So ends lesson in PvP interface use 101. ANN S, I give you credit. It is brave to be the first to drop in to a system with hostiles all around you. Whether by accident or deliberate I salute you. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud FA Member
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.13 01:43:00 - [188] Insane, what battle are you referring to? awgh, I said I wouldnt post again... ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.04.13 01:57:00 - [189] Quote: Insane, what battle are you referring to? awgh, I said I wouldnt post again... The fight we had last night wit them... (sunday)... Also you may want to check the current kill count, we just slaughtered one of your scorpions, and we are not pirates, we are freedom fighters fighting against the oppresion that is Xanadu and its allies. Regards Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.13 02:22:00 - [190] ohhhh...dang it I was there too..I think... /ducks ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.04.13 02:46:00 - [191] Quote: Edited by: Insane Angel on 13/04/2004 01:29:56 LOL. Five pages since my last post (work). Skimmed most of it from there to my current post (this one). Aneu. Absolutely I am a liar. Anyone who claims not to be a liar is a liar. As far as ship damage/losses in the 8BSs(FA) vs. 22BSs(Pirates). There were none. The only damage to any ship was probably to Stans as all of you hate him for some reason (BTW Stan I'll be in your gang anyday). I remeber ANN S losing shields and then receiving major armor damage as she warped. My other 3 targets had also been hit by my gang and me and they had no shields. See Aneu, its not like mining. Roids dont have those little status bars that show the shields/armor/structure going down around the side of the ships. The left side is the sheilds, the first half on the right side is armor while the last half is structure. So ends lesson in PvP interface use 101. ANN S, I give you credit. It is brave to be the first to drop in to a system with hostiles all around you. Whether by accident or deliberate I salute you. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud FA Member Actually, a few cruisers uncloaked first, then i uncloaked, warped to my alt, and warped back (was only 1au and it was planned) and by the time i got back you had ran... You didnt get Ann's shields down, nor any armour damage im afraid, checked it out and reports sudgest she was fine. We have it on fraps too if you like... im sure one of our guys will upload it someday. Cheers, Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Baun	Posted - 2004.04.13 02:49:00 - [192] Quote: Thats what you think/assume/perceive etc etc etc. An average player/outsider doesn not think the same Baun. You dont need to admit that you were wrong, just stop posting :P OR you can spin it, i guess :S Possitive spin is not the same as not having admitted at all that it was a coup. We did admit this, whether or not it was in this thread in the initial post, and for that reason Riddari is wrong. He, having acknowledged that we have admitted this previously, has himself admitted he is wrong. That is my only point, and has been for the last several pages of this thread. You can argue yourself blue in the face about whatever spin there is or is not percieved to exist by the average player. The person who posted acknowledged as much, just citing that he percieved the omission of it in this thread as a sort of spin. The Enemy's Gate is Down
EVENFLOW	Posted - 2004.04.13 03:30:00 - [193] ...lets continue with killing Xanadu and their allies in fountain... 1 scorp just died. Thank you for the thrill Evenflow... It's a game, i died. Not happy about it, but it happens. I'm just **ed off i lagged so hard. Not the best timing on my part to come out of warp as 5+ unfriendlies are coming thru the gate. Maybe next time i'll see more than a screen of my scorp with half armor, and then a screen of a pod, then a new body. I'm ed off i didn't get to shoot back at those i don't agree with. I'm not *ed off about dying for FA and what i hold true. awaits the flaming* and somehow my new clone still has a scar over his eye...You'd think they'd fix that in the regrowing process.
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2004.04.13 04:24:00 - [194] Now correct me if I'm wrong, But I was pretty sure we took down a Tempest from you guys.. -------------- credendo vides - believing is seeing -=Proud member of the Fountain Alliance=- Hell Hath No Fury Like A Shattered Star!
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.04.13 04:25:00 - [195] Quote: See Aneu, its not like mining. Roids dont have those little status bars that show the shields/armor/structure going down around the side of the ships. The left side is the sheilds, the first half on the right side is armor while the last half is structure. So ends lesson in PvP interface use 101. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud FA Member Its still bugged, left side is the shields and right side is the armor, structure (hull) isnt shown on the targeting icon. Well, unless they had some optional patch wich i havent installed, wouldnt be the first time that happaned. *Spawn of the Devil*
Finderne	Posted - 2004.04.13 05:04:00 - [196] Quote: Quote: See Aneu, its not like mining. Roids dont have those little status bars that show the shields/armor/structure going down around the side of the ships. The left side is the sheilds, the first half on the right side is armor while the last half is structure. So ends lesson in PvP interface use 101. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud FA Member Its still bugged, left side is the shields and right side is the armor, structure (hull) isnt shown on the targeting icon. Well, unless they had some optional patch wich i havent installed, wouldnt be the first time that happaned. Aww Omni, that snide post begged for a flame and you come back with a polite factual response. My whole world is turned upside down lately I tells ya!
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.04.13 05:18:00 - [197] Quote: Quote: Quote: See Aneu, its not like mining. Roids dont have those little status bars that show the shields/armor/structure going down around the side of the ships. The left side is the sheilds, the first half on the right side is armor while the last half is structure. So ends lesson in PvP interface use 101. Insane Angel CEO EVE Marshals Proud FA Member Its still bugged, left side is the shields and right side is the armor, structure (hull) isnt shown on the targeting icon. Well, unless they had some optional patch wich i havent installed, wouldnt be the first time that happaned. Aww Omni, that snide post begged for a flame and you come back with a polite factual response. My whole world is turned upside down lately I tells ya! Your world? YOUR WORLD? THERE IS NO WORLD BUT EVE. *Spawn of the Devil*
Aerick Dawn	Posted - 2004.04.13 06:36:00 - [198] far as I know we havent lost any BS assets today or yesterday. Keep it friendly people. =) ______________________ What Aerick has been up to lately..
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.04.13 07:39:00 - [199] So whats the kill score so far ? *Spawn of the Devil*
dabster	Posted - 2004.04.13 07:43:00 - [200] So who lost his Scorp to sentry-guns? ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.04.13 07:49:00 - [201] Quote: So who lost his Scorp to sentry-guns? I thought the fight was in fountain area, wich doesnt have sentry guns. *Spawn of the Devil*
EVENFLOW	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:26:00 - [202] Lol, i think its spilled into aridia as well, with the Revol attack on a XAN mining op, followed by hit and run by us. I don't think one region can contain this atm.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:35:00 - [203] Is this "civil war" FA affiate only, or can any warmongering corp/alliance join the party? Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:37:00 - [204] I can't be the only one who sees the parallels between the reformation of the NVA into the PA and the latest...events...in the FA. The claims of a split between the fighters and the miners in battle. It's giving me nostalgia... I think I can, however, sum it up thus: Democracy is a great thing, until it becomes inconvenient. If you are not prepared to take on the challenge of a democracy, do not join one. After a purge such as this, I cannot see how ANYONE with a straight face could call the reformed FA democratic. Mind - I'm not saying if it's good or bad for anyone. Just that the reformed FA is NOT a democracy. And it seems the status quo on borders - closed with limited for-pay access - will continue. I never have and never will agree with that. "As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade"
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:45:00 - [205] I to noticed the similarities between the VA/NVA/PA Story and the Current Fountain situation. Rather amusing from my POV . Even the nick of the old FA has changed, i've amptley started refering to the old FA corps as "NFA" since some of the corps are missing. I'm sure others have done like wise, as i've seen it apparent on the this and the last NFA related thread . I wonder how long this bit will last, until it falls and reforms under a new banner, T2PA (The 2nd Pheonix Alliance) perhaps? Prophecy Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Hardin	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:48:00 - [206] Kudos to Xanadu and FA. The wheat has been seperated from the chafe in a thoroughly professional manner. I am sure that whatever short term difficulties it causes FA will only be strengthened by this cull of dead weight... Once again Xanadu demonstrate their complete mastery of politics and manipulation.
Propehcy	Posted - 2004.04.13 08:56:00 - [207] That is not a suprise comment coming from an Amarrian! PIE is well known for it's mistreatment of others. I would not expect any less from you Hardin. Although I beleive you misinturpret the far reaching consequences of angering so many people. It is quite obvious that more then just a few people were unhappy about this. NFA also has old enemies that've never gone away... Which will no doubt take advantage of the chaos in Fountain at the moment. Only time will tell who had the right, and the might to make right the events that transpired . --- [OOC] That was All IC for any mods that want to get ban happy on me. =( Ex-CA Rep and Ex-CA Member http://www.designegrafix.com/eve/prop5.jpg Props Chop Shop: Ships, Arms, and Armaments producer for Northern Eve! Located at Torrinos 5 - 6 - Home Guard Assembley. The Prop And Notferr Chronicles Notferr> Propehcy Owns me! Yet I feel so much Fear in his Evil Presence! Propehcy> Bow Down, You know who your Master is. Notferr> Only Prop is King!! Only Prop!! I Am nothing! Propehcy> I think Stav would be Proud. Propehcy> I Need a Tool... Where is that Notferr... [ 2004.09.11 28:63:98 ] Propehcy 2004.09.11 29:05:33.3 combat Your Miner II perfectly strikes Notferr, wrecking for WTFPWNAGE.
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.04.13 09:03:00 - [208] I think that most people forget real quick and after FA has killed them all few times they will just stop attacking and find a nice little system and start mining again. After all most of them are miners and have attention span of micro seconds when it comes to combat. Wich was seen when the people who were kicked fought against m0o in the past, it just seemed to me that after they activated their weapons they started to think about something totally different, like the next system to mine in, and then all of a sudden their ship was gone. Was amazes me is that this didnt happen sooner since when I was fighting in fountain most of those people were trying to mine instead of fighting us. *Spawn of the Devil*
Riddari	Posted - 2004.04.13 09:17:00 - [209] Ah good morning. 11 pages and still we are open for business! Nothing amazing happened since last night obviously except for the surprising addition of Hardin of PIE inc jumping on the Xanadu bandwagon? That came out of nowhere! Are PIE looking for a 0.0 home all of a sudden? Happy battles gentlemen and ladies. For which ever banner you fly. ¼©¼ a history
Eris Discordia	Posted - 2004.04.13 09:20:00 - [210] Is there any chance in getting this thread back on-topic? I hope people will try otherwise I will have to go clickyin this thread as well. I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions.

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