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AfterShock
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:10:00 -
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After four days of trying to negotiate the removal of our name from the NFA KOS list, we now know it is a lost cause. Our reason of being placed on the KOS were unproven and false. We were lead to beleive it was being looked into and we should know something by today. Now it seems we would have to wait till the next NFA meeting to find out. In the meantime Xanadu has started killing my members outside of Fountain region.
It seems there is no intention from Xanadu to work with us on this matter.
Confederation of the Red Moon has had enough of deceit from this matter. NFA might as well just not worry about removing us from KOS. We will now give you a reason for having us on the list. To the remaining corps in the NFA. We would not wish to have any hostilities with you but with it being an alliance, we will not have any choice. Xanadu has made the decision for you.
CEO of CoRM
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:16:00 -
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I wish you luck in your fight.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:36:00 -
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I understand that all the people who was thrown out of fountain were; dead weight, pr nightmares and general peons. so why would they let you back in ?
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:38:00 -
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I understand that all the people who was thrown out of fountain were; dead weight, pr nightmares and general peons. so why would they let you back in ?
Wow sutty, yeah there really is just one side to every story I guess 
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Brutus Elite
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:41:00 -
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Our reason of being placed on the KOS were unproven and false. We were lead to beleive it was being looked into and we should know something by today. Now it seems we would have to wait till the next NFA meeting to find out. In the meantime Xanadu has started killing my members outside of Fountain region.
This demonstrates one of two things, either Xan are so unorganised that it takes the this long to correct a mistake, or
They are too afraid of losing face in the NFA to admit they made a mistake and do the honourable thing and correct it.
Either way their actions can not go unpunnished.
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Cpt Mav
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:42:00 -
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Wow sutty, yeah there really is just one side to every story I guess
Perhaps you could heed your own widsom when you go on a posting spree then?
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Brutus Elite
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:45:00 -
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I understand that all the people who was thrown out of fountain were; dead weight, pr nightmares and general peons. so why would they let you back in ?
Hmmm you are entitled to your opinion, no matter how ill-informed it is.
And to set the record straight, we were not seeking readmittance to the NFA, we simply wanted to clear our name of the false charges brought against us and leave peacefully.
So please, please stick to posting accurate information.
Do not waste our time with your tripe
Edit: Please keep it nice (-Olympus Nemus)
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:45:00 -
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Wow sutty, yeah there really is just one side to every story I guess
Perhaps you could heed your own widsom when you go on a posting spree then?
How many alts do you guys have anyway?
You are a month old character, in noob corp and with 0.0 standing with every faction.
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Olympus Nemus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:52:00 -
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Lets see if we can keep this one flame and troll free 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.04.15 10:55:00 -
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I understand that all the people who was thrown out of fountain were; dead weight, pr nightmares and general peons. so why would they let you back in ?
They dont ask for getting back in, but for not beeing KOS. Xanadu didnt respond, thus there is a war now. Easy to read, not hard to get.
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Brutus Elite
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:02:00 -
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Lets see if we can keep this one flame and troll free
Your right, sorry got carried away...but some people.....
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shakaZ XIV
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:13:00 -
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Our reason of being placed on the KOS were unproven and false. We were lead to beleive it was being looked into and we should know something by today. Now it seems we would have to wait till the next NFA meeting to find out. In the meantime Xanadu has started killing my members outside of Fountain region.
This demonstrates one of two things, either Xan are so unorganised that it takes the this long to correct a mistake, or
They are too afraid of losing face in the NFA to admit they made a mistake and do the honourable thing and correct it.
Either way their actions can not go unpunnished.
...or they just dont give a [expletive deleted] and just want something to shoot at?  not that they would admit that obviously 
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:14:00 -
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You obviously cant prove your innocense in that matter so it would be naive of Xanadu and other FA corps to remove you from the KOS list after such serious charges were levelled on you.
Dont get me wrong Im not a big fan of Xanadu I dont like the way the operate out in fountain, althought I have heard they are starting to improve out there, but I know them well enough to know they wouldnt make up those charges against you and even if they had the other corps wouldnt of allowed them to expel and KOS on baseless accusations.
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Intukaki
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:20:00 -
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Another noob alliance trying to think they are good. What the hell gives corm nubs the right to post here? They are a rubbish corp with like 5 actives! BE AFRAID XANADU!
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: JaiMaster on 15/04/2004 11:23:59
i thought xanadu had more than 5 actives?
(edit, yes, deliberate sarcastic snipe @ xanadu re the above post)
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:23:00 -
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Another noob alliance trying to think they are good. What the hell gives corm nubs the right to post here? They are a rubbish corp with like 5 actives! BE AFRAID XANADU!
Another alt, noob corp, 0.0 standings to any faction (so he hasn't shot an npc, done his agent missions etc, in other words, never been used for anything but trolling).
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JaiMaster
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:24:00 -
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nay! he could be a research or production alt :) professional carebare who flames on the side...
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Skill points. ISK. Ships, rare equipment. Its all just a means to an end...
Your end.
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Olympus Nemus
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:25:00 -
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All players have the right to use (ie post) on this forums (provided they do so within the forum rules). This applies to players of small, medium, large or no corps.
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Cpt Mav
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:26:00 -
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Another alt, noob corp, 0.0 standings to any faction (so he hasn't shot an npc, done his agent missions etc, in other words, never been used for anything but trolling).
Indeed, but your post was hardly constructive. Most of your posts are little more than flames or accusations, the only difference is that you want to make a fool out yourself in front of everyone reading.
Personally I would much rather have a constructive arguement on these forums, but most of the posters here care very little for the truth, and do nothing but post utter drivil, in which case it makes discussion pointless.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:26:00 -
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All players have the right to use (ie post) on this forums (provided they do so within the forum rules). This applies to players of small, medium, large or no corps.
Most certainly. It would be nice if they actually did it with characters they use though.
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Shamrock
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:29:00 -
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I understand that all the people who was thrown out of fountain were; dead weight, pr nightmares and general peons. so why would they let you back in ?
They dont ask for getting back in, but for not beeing KOS. Xanadu didnt respond, thus there is a war now. Easy to read, not hard to get.
I was reading down after seeing sutty's post and waiting to see who would be the first to blow it out of the water. Forgive sutty, he is a university student who just goes for developing alcoholism and violent behavior. Not for the "edumication". |
Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:32:00 -
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Hey Riddari you can download the celes.wmv from my website /celes/ note this is the website I use to blog, not the eve one.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 11:34:00 -
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Hey Riddari you can download the celes.wmv from my website /celes/ note this is the website I use to blog, not the eve one.
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Brutus Elite
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:05:00 -
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You obviously cant prove your innocense in that matter so it would be naive of Xanadu and other FA corps to remove you from the KOS list after such serious charges were levelled on you.
Oh but we can, question is do they want to hear it.
No,no, the reason for our expulsion is that we don't tow the Xan line. FA was a democracy but they did not like living in one so they threw us out.
The KOS was a mistake but what do they care and why should they.
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Brutus Elite
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:09:00 -
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Another noob alliance trying to think they are good. What the hell gives corm nubs the right to post here? They are a rubbish corp with like 5 actives! BE AFRAID XANADU!
1) Post with your main char man, if you don't have the guts then don't trouble us with your drivvel.
2) Shows what you know about the mmorpg community if you call us noob.
3) We can post where we like and what we like, we have as much right as anyone else.
4) ??? 5 actives ??? you getting us mixed up with another corp?
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Six KH
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:21:00 -
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You obviously cant prove your innocense in that matter so it would be naive of Xanadu and other FA corps to remove you from the KOS list after such serious charges were levelled on you.
It's a wrong reasonment... you have to prove that someone is guilty not his innocence.
There is no place for justice in eve, it's only a matter of interests, but i don't understand what they can get from putting a former ally in KOS list and attack them outside Fountain. 
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Kaio
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:29:00 -
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Why none can simply stop from trolling. Just to state few points:
1) Saying that CoRM wasn't helping in FA defence is false. After war with m0o and FE, FA made a list of the corps who were more active and the ones who weren't. This list was made by asking to each marshall and commander the real effort they had seen with their eyes. CoRM was between the *few* corps who were the most active during the war. Other corps who now are in the NFA was way under us in that list. This list wasn't made by us, but from FA. So please, expecially people who don't belong to FA (like EVOL or m0o) stop telling about things you don't know. I challenge any NFA guy to post here that list (not edited hopefully ) if what i say isn't true.
When we made the patrols, CoRM sent his own pilots as requested.
And since we also liked fighting, we as CoRM alone, fighted FE in Vale after discussions with FA leaders (we basically asked who we could fight to bring advantage to FA..CA was the answer).
When REVOL attacked fountain (just the day before the statement) we were in the fleet of FA trying to stop them. And we lost also a ship (Zudd).
2) Beeing kicked out of FA is one thing. We have been kicked out with no reason at all (except the generic "we don't help" said in first point). and we accepted that. we didn't like it but we accepted it (and i challenge everyone to come here telling that you like losing ships for an ally and seeing the same allying expelling you without even a warning or even a vote or a chance to know why the day after).
3) we have been put on KOS for no reason at all. The result was that our guy Zudd (the same guy who lost the ship in defence of FA just the day before) was podded in his BS while trying to move out (and this after he had asked if he could and he was told by Xanadu he could move out of fountain).
Now we have been in FA for an year. we were in fountain even before Xanadu went here. i think after one year defending (again look at point 1) ) it should be not fair but just the MINIMUM by anyone with a piece of honour to let us leave in peace.
4) even after that, our leadership continued to talk to NFA to be removed from KOS even if we know very well the accusations were just faked. and while they assured us they would have talked in next meeting, Xanadu went after us in Aridia (empire) killing one of our miner.
5) CoRM isn't a noob corp. we aren't huge, we aren't small. so stop insulting us or smacktalking.
we didn't whine. we just stated clearly what happened and why now we will fight NFA at our best.
Surely no corp alone can win against NFA. m0o failed. FE failed. Xanadu itself outnumbers us.
But the fact the odds are bad for us doesn't mean we shouldn't fight.
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Yama Booshi
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:40:00 -
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Wow sutty, yeah there really is just one side to every story I guess
Perhaps you could heed your own widsom when you go on a posting spree then?
How many alts do you guys have anyway?
You are a month old character, in noob corp and with 0.0 standing with every faction.
Nicely avoided the remark here  He did however have an excellent point. You are definately a prime example of biased posts and blatant trolling.
Now that in itself I can live with, but you trying to correct someone else on it is just out of order.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:53:00 -
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You are definately a prime example of biased posts and blatant trolling.
Now that in itself I can live with, but you trying to correct someone else on it is just out of order.
I honestly don't understand the basis for accusing me of bias as I've stated the facts, the facts and the facts. But to ease your pain at having to read my trollish posts I'm writing a big one.
Feel free to poke it when it arrives.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.04.15 12:53:00 -
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Edited by: Riddari on 15/04/2004 12:55:42
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I honestly don't understand the basis for accusing me of bias
Other than trying to discredit me that is
*Edit: spelling monster
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