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Kyusoath Orillian	Posted - 2008.03.29 10:57:00 - [1] What i mean is , what would you like to add to EVE that makes it harder/riskier/dangerous etc. this includes things that may be very unpopular,or may never even be seriously considered for example mine are: More trade skills, including a skill that you need to train to even use the market, plus skills that allow you to see order in other stations (assuming the current free ability to do so is gone. Contracting now allows you to see contracts(1-in station,2 in system, 3 in 1 jump, 4 in 4 jumps,5 in region) a new skill is needed to actually place contracts Skills needed to use directional scanner(use/range skills seperate), also scanner can be upgraded (not a module but a scanner slot type thing) New web modules that are harder to fit (more cap,more PG/CPU , highslot)but can be scripted to be longer range or more powerful web effect (not just % reduction , put how harder and quickly it hits the webbed ship to counter inertia) Map is unrevealed , meaning you need to travel to see it. (or you can buy maps to fill the map in). Warp drive is not instant(it is now after aligning an accelerating) it takes time (different per ship) to charge , skills put in place to decrease the time + modules Podding people permanently reduces your sec status(by .1) concord sometimes accept bribes to reduce permanent status loss. (if you find a concord agent) ^ randomly spawning concord agents at random stations People removed from local unless they speak(scanner is improved a lot) GCF in highsec lasts 24 hours (a new social skill reduces it) Players with high pirate faction standing are friendly with pirate NPCs. (yeah cool eh?) Faction navies patrol through lowsec systems that have stations in them. NPCs may warp off ! Scramble them to stop them! Missiles travel faster , light time reduced a little, better exp velocity. (hit faster ships) Most ships should travel faster. some ships are fine... WTZ-----> WT5km . yeah thats right .... True black market (no tax, need skills to access, maybe even need standing with faction operating particular black market) Being flashy red means you can only dock at outposts and pirate stations you have good standing with, not npc stations of law abiding factions. no flames or other crap, lets keep things nice. so what are yours ? _________________________________________________ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
El'Niaga	Posted - 2008.03.29 10:58:00 - [2] I would make it such that the traders could decide who to sell to or not. (So give them the option of selling to anyone, to blue only, to blue and neutral only, etc).
Overwhelmed	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:03:00 - [3] There is no default clone. If you get podded and forgot to buy a clone, your character is deleted and your assets are disseminated to the insurance companies. Oh, and your boot sector gets scrambled.
Roy Batty68	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:04:00 - [4] Remove insurance from the game. Sig removed, inappropriate content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
Bimjo	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:06:00 - [5] force carebears to play the game the way the pirates want Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Antheon	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:06:00 - [6] Edited by: Antheon on 29/03/2008 11:07:07 I have been only playing a month, but there is something that strikes me as a little too carebear Change "Local" chat into "Regional" chat, or give people the option to hide themselves from the local list of players. I can instantly find out if I am in trouble the moment another pirate warps into the system. I can view their sec status, their total playtime and what corp/alliance they are in from across the solar system "safespots" are relatively carebear by definition, but the way the scanner works, it's pretty much a requirement
woootanoob	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:22:00 - [7] Edited by: woootanoob on 29/03/2008 11:25:48 pron? lawls another weird sensor, prOn is not not censored but ** (thats pr(ZERO)n is) eve gets weirder by the day? i fancey some ***ers and cheese???
Kyusoath Orillian	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:26:00 - [8] Originally by: Overwhelmed There is no default clone. If you get podded and forgot to buy a clone, your character is deleted and your assets are disseminated to the insurance companies. Oh, and your boot sector gets scrambled. thats pretty good. but a little too harsh, maybe people to have a second clone as a backup if they forget that too then they respawn in there jump clones, if they have no clone of any kind then game over. _________________________________________________ Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Rawr Cristina	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:27:00 - [9] Sadly the game can never be made more 'hardcore' without massive whinage. In that regard there's only one direction things can go. ... Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Shakuul O RLY corp YTMND.	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:28:00 - [10] Permanent Death Remove Clones Remove Insurance Remove asteroid respawn Replace WTZ with WT100km Add back lowsec areas between different factional regions
woootanoob Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:28:00 - [11] Edited by: woootanoob on 29/03/2008 11:28:35 Originally by: Antheon Edited by: Antheon on 29/03/2008 11:07:07 I have been only playing a month, but there is something that strikes me as a little too carebear Change "Local" chat into "Regional" chat, or give people the option to hide themselves from the local list of players. I can instantly find out if I am in trouble the moment another pirate warps into the system. I can view their sec status, their total playtime and what corp/alliance they are in from across the solar system "safespots" are relatively carebear by definition, but the way the scanner works, it's pretty much a requirement lolz i can imagine forge reigonal chat, eleventybillion ppl all spaming each other with scams and bargans
Brun Thorvald Red. Red Republic	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:29:00 - [12] Cancel insurance, and ... Frigate involved in Piracy yawn who cares, its a frigate Destroyer hmmm, investigate the scene Cruiser Alert the Navy BC Alert the Navy now BS or bigger The Navy Is Here, and if the pilot shows up in an Empire station ever he gets a gun pushed down his throat, his ships and clones seized and starts doing 20 years in the Uranium mines (ie delete character. EvE is a tough and harsh universe. For what happens to Pie-rates in the real world, google Christopher Dale Flannery sometime. Benji Veniamin may also be worth a look, who played Goonswarm to TeddyBearFTW's Mick Gatto)
Overwhelmed Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:30:00 - [13] Forgot one. Every time you undock, your ship has a 20% chance of exploding. That'll take away that false sense of security.
SCSPOOK 16th Interspacial Dynasty	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:32:00 - [14] Theres only 1 change required to make this game hard core. ## Remove Alts completely. ## 1 Life. 2 Choices - Live or Die.
Kyusoath Orillian UK Corp Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:32:00 - [15] Originally by: Shakuul Permanent Death Remove Clones Remove Insurance Remove asteroid respawn Replace WTZ with WT100km there would be no game left then. think you went a bit far Originally by: Shakuul Add back lowsec areas between different factional regions now thats what i'm talking about. _________________________________________________
Thenoran The People's Liberation Army	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:35:00 - [16] Warp to zero was introduced to remove the problem with insta bookmarks so I doubt removing it would be help much in the long run. Missiles are fine, Turrets being able to hit smaller targets should remain a reason to actually use Turrets. Last thing I want to see is a Capital Torpedo doing full damage to a Shuttle. Friendly status with pirates should also mean you don't get attacked by them in an asteroid belt, though missions against them is a different story. NPC's warping out would only make missions more of a drag then they already are, try killing like a 100 Cruisers if half of them warp out when you poke their shields. Warp Drive is fine, a target escaping is your duty to prevent with a Warp Scrambler. Unrevealed map should reveal all areas you have visited since day one, as well as a full map of the region you started in so new people don't end up in 0.4 ------------------------ Mining over 4000m3 per cycle...with a Rokh
Bellum Eternus	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:43:00 - [17] Originally by: Bimjo force carebears to play the game the way the pirates want Anyone with +5.0 sec status gets their account banned. <lol> Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
techzer0	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:47:00 - [18] I would add more cowbell. And a lot less fail. ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Amonshige	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian NPCs may warp off ! Scramble them to stop them! They already do, well ... they mysteriously disappear. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Lord Zoran	Posted - 2008.03.29 11:50:00 - [20] a few gd ideas there like the map only revealing once you've travelled there, but i don't think theres enough cheese. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Kyusoath Orillian UK Corp Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Thenoran Warp to zero was introduced to remove the problem with insta bookmarks so I doubt removing it would be help much in the long run. Missiles are fine, Turrets being able to hit smaller targets should remain a reason to actually use Turrets. Last thing I want to see is a Capital Torpedo doing full damage to a Shuttle. Friendly status with pirates should also mean you don't get attacked by them in an asteroid belt, though missions against them is a different story. NPC's warping out would only make missions more of a drag then they already are, try killing like a 100 Cruisers if half of them warp out when you poke their shields. Warp Drive is fine, a target escaping is your duty to prevent with a Warp Scrambler. Unrevealed map should reveal all areas you have visited since day one, as well as a full map of the region you started in so new people don't end up in 0.4 you missed the point of the thread. i don't want a debate about my ideas _________________________________________________
Kyusoath Orillian UK Corp Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Lord Zoran a few gd ideas there like the map only revealing once you've travelled there, but i don't think theres enough cheese. you also missed the point . _________________________________________________
Xyn Rhais Tessaract	Posted - 2008.03.29 12:21:00 - [23] Originally by: SCSPOOK Theres only 1 change required to make this game hard core. ## Remove Alts completely. ## 1 Life. 2 Choices - Live or Die. QFT. All the difficulty needed is already in the game, what we need is to have people forced to live with the consequences of their actions.
Bimjo	Posted - 2008.03.29 15:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Bellum Eternus Originally by: Bimjo force carebears to play the game the way the pirates want Anyone with +5.0 sec status gets their account banned. <lol> lol , cleaning monitor as we speak p.s. My Sec. Stat. is an embarassing 5.02 now Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2008.03.29 16:49:00 - [25] Manual docking Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Malidia	Posted - 2008.03.29 16:58:00 - [26] Edited by: Malidia on 29/03/2008 16:58:27
Lord Zoran	Posted - 2008.03.29 16:59:00 - [27] well since i missed the point apparently i'll give it another shot when you start you even have to train for a noob ship. you start with no isk whatsoever and not even the 1 tritanium in fact you don't even have a wallet you have to train for one no warnings about going into low sec or 0.0 you instantly explode as soon as you mine, in fact the roid shoots you somehow you have to train for your face although it seems most people already have to that's all i got for now. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Mors Morbis	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:01:00 - [28] Make jump clones protect your implants while still giving the boost to your skills while secure. This will bring more pilots to low sec as they will not be afraid of losing 80 million in implants and more pilots in low sec = more ships = more pvp = more fun.
Kaar	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Rodj Blake Manual docking Like Jumpgate... I'd like to see a nanoship attempt to dock at full speed. --- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ---
Benco97 Exchangable Properties	Posted - 2008.03.29 17:11:00 - [30] I would make mining lasers need to be tapped in a musical rhythm in order to work at full capacity! wait.. that's not very hardcore.. Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.

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