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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2008.03.29 22:53:00 -
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Now, i couldn't care less if goonies blow up another hulk or not, but what i am rather disturbed about is the fact there using religous terms to do so.
Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
Now i'm from the Netherlands myself and i can't really smile about some ****weed screaming 'Allahu Akbar' in local esp due to current events which i will not go into any further here (cuz ccp will block my ass if i do)
cmon ccp, ur locking threads in the 'out of topic' section of the forums, why not block some people *cough* goonies *cough* who use this term ingame as well?
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.03.29 22:55:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 29/03/2008 22:55:18
CCP to be bombed by militants due to serious bizness
also paranoid op is paranoid
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:00:00 -
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Just asking for equall rights tbh, if ccp blocks people from using this **** on their forums they should block (aka ban) people from using said terms ingame as well.
i couldn't care less about religion in any form, i just hate it when people abuse it under false pretence.
if they wanna make it religious and keep it in the spirit of the game they should scream something in the line of 'for the God Emperor!' or something.
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Sereifex Daku
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:08:00 -
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 Originally by: 000Hunter000
Just asking for equall rights tbh, if ccp blocks people from using this **** on their forums they should block (aka ban) people from using said terms ingame as well.
i couldn't care less about religion in any form, i just hate it when people abuse it under false pretence.
if they wanna make it religious and keep it in the spirit of the game they should scream something in the line of 'for the God Emperor!' or something.
Your logic is flawed because what happens inside the game..happens inside the game. CCP staff have stated on numerous occasions thateven if you don't roleplay, you are still part of the story. The news service does a report on an alliance invading some system even if they don't rp. so what happens inside eve (no matter how ludicrous) is part of the story. The forum, on the other hand, are not part of the story (with the exception of the in-character alliance/corporation related forums).
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:10:00 -
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:15:00 -
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logic? i'm just stating i don't like the part where some jerks use RL terms ingame where we all know damn well there just doing it cuz it's a popular term! No double standards, i think goonies using RL religious terms in game is bad.
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Malcanis
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
logic? i'm just stating i don't like the part where some jerks use RL terms ingame where we all know damn well there just doing it cuz it's a popular term! No double standards, i think goonies using RL religious terms in game is bad.
Yeah well. I don't like you. I think you're bad.
What now?
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Constance Noring
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:22:00 -
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By OP logic CCP should also ban phrases like "holy flying spaghetti monster!" and "it", offensive to members of the church of the flying spaghetti monster and knights who say ni!, respectively.
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Marcus TheMartin
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:23:00 -
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As a scientologist I find anonymous forum alts offensive and they should be removed
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Ogul
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:25:00 -
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Quite the contrary. Suicide ganking in the name of jihad/allah/whatever should happen exclusively in a virtual setting.
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EnslaverOfMinmatar
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:26:00 -
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Allah is a fictional entity, just like the God Emperor you mentioned, just like Jesus Christ, Buddah, etc.
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Billy Sastard
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:26:00 -
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I call bullsh*t...
This is an imaginary spaceship universe, its just some stupid terminology they are using anyway.
If we want to go there however, I think CCP should completely revamp the Amarr backstory as there are too many resemblances to RL religious sects...
This is a rediculous topic.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:31:00 -
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The OP -----> 
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Fletus Aragor
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:36:00 -
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I find it offensive that people take religion so seriously. And I am totally neutral on the whole suicide gank thing.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:45:00 -
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Actually, CCP closes discussions about religion(s) (in particular, preference towards one or another), because it tends to lead to "excessive and useless flaming".
The same reason why they close down discussions about real-life politics.
Neither of those are "banned" per se (as in, resulting in forum bans), they're just prophilactically closed down.
On the other hand, in-game religion RP and in-game politics, those you can talk about as much as you like.
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000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: 000Hunter000
logic? i'm just stating i don't like the part where some jerks use RL terms ingame where we all know damn well there just doing it cuz it's a popular term! No double standards, i think goonies using RL religious terms in game is bad.
Yeah well. I don't like you. I think you're bad.
What now?
I lolled 
U can always wardec me 
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar
Allah is a fictional entity, just like the God Emperor you mentioned, just like Jesus Christ, Buddah, etc.
Dune is not fiction
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Treean
Ivy League Research Foundation
Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:52:00 -
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Damn terrorists. Unlike real life, they can do it again.
Now if only they were as amusing as Achmed The Dead Terrorist instead of some random e-tards.
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Zifrian
Gallente Federal Bank
Interstellar Corporate Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Zifrian on 29/03/2008 23:56:12
I still have yet to be convinced they are actually in a 'jihad' as it is defined. The Goon rp story is a bit thin on that side imo. It seems they just want to be ****s and get attention, not really be engaging in something they see as a holy struggle. This is probably obvious to most people though.
I'd be more impressed if they were all Amarr and fought against the evil embodied in the other races and would suicide attack anyonein empire space because they believe those there mining or doing whatever to be sacrilegious. However, the main opposition of this 'jihad' would be in Amarr space, being that they are defending their homeland etc. Of course going to other regions would be akin to attacking in "the heart of enemy territory", so they could justify it there too.
But this whole only attacking hulks in empire (one said they wouldn't take out a retriever because it's "not worth it") is a stretch to be a real RP campaign. Add in the fact they get their ship insured and they don't actually lose anything (pod for example) it just doesn't fly for me. I realize that it's a bit difficult to simulate a real suicide attack since we are all cloned, etc but they really don't lose that much in the long run it seems.
If you are going to RP it, RP it.
As far as the connection to religion, it should be (or not) be dealt with in the TOS.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.29 23:55:00 -
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Dunecat controls the spice!
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Atreides Horza
No Fear Buccaneers
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Now, i couldn't care less if goonies blow up another hulk or not, but what i am rather disturbed about is the fact there using religous terms to do so.
Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
Now i'm from the Netherlands myself and i can't really smile about some ****weed screaming 'Allahu Akbar' in local esp due to current events which i will not go into any further here (cuz ccp will block my ass if i do)
cmon ccp, ur locking threads in the 'out of topic' section of the forums, why not block some people *cough* goonies *cough* who use this term ingame as well?
Funny how right-wingers hail the principles of free speech when they preach their own propaganda and racial/cultural slur, all while vigorously pushing for others to be silenced under the banner of 'protecting democracy'.
To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace.
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Dirk Magnum
Spearhead Endeavors
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
The "in modern times"-type argument (akin to the "too soon"-type argument) holds no water with me. Not now, not ever. No matter what time period it occurs in, religiously motivated violence is far and away the single dumbest category of human-on-human interaction, and it should be mocked as an institution whenever possible. Goonswarm isn't perverting the term Jihad any more than modern fanatics in the real world are, and it would be singularly inappropriate to punish the Goons because they reference a hot-button topic.
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Herio Mortis
54th Knights Templar
THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:06:00 -
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Ah, political correctness in language.
You know, I never believed in that, not will I ever do so.
The current trend towards PC language is disturbing really, it's a slippery slope leading to newspeak, and newspeak is doubleplusungood.
Banning players because they said something that another player might find insulting or 'disturibing'. Heck, might just as well start banning anyone that smacks in local if you start doing that.
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Ringleader
Poor and Peaceful
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:13:00 -
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Please let me be the first in line to make fun of any religions holy characters. They are all a mockery to intelligent people!
It its my DEMOCRATIC right to think you are morons to follow any church just as it your right to hate me, but you dont see me running around bombing people just cause i dont like relgion so please crawl under the trollstone you came from!
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Zeba
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:14:00 -
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FFS hasn't this very topic been covered ad nauseam in the plethora of other goonie threads? 
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ZW Dewitt
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:20:00 -
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PETA is offended by your use of the term "Hunter" as it promotes the sensless killing of animals of all kinds.
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Kharadran Sullath
Noir.
Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Kharadran Sullath on 30/03/2008 00:23:00
Let me guess... you're offended due to the recent troubles with your nation's Muslim minority, which relates especially to the death of a certain filmmaker.
Even though you have my sympathies, you do realize it would make CCP completely hypocritical, and impossible for that matter, to enforce punishments on anyone who offends someone ingame? It just isn't doable.
Also, I think Jihadswarm is mainly comedy gold.
Also also, see the above post for a summary of my point.
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I call bull**** and troll. If you are deaf, how are you even able to read this or type replies?
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Higgs Foton
Die industries
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Now i'm from the Netherlands myself and i can't really smile about some ****weed screaming 'Allahu Akbar' in local esp due to current events which i will not go into any further here (cuz ccp will block my ass if i do)
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I'm from the Netherlands as well, and i think you are whining. Why don't you start a "fitna" to counter the "jihad"?
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doctorstupid2
Blood Corsair's
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.30 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
logic? i'm just stating i don't like the part where some jerks use RL terms ingame where we all know damn well there just doing it cuz it's a popular term! No double standards, i think goonies using RL religious terms in game is bad.
No double standards, eh? I don't see you starting threads about the Crusader or Inquisitor being offensive. You have taken a history class, I assume.
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