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Koblai
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:05:00 -
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Quote: Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
I have to disagree with this statement. Consider the earlier references in this thread to the science fiction novel Dune. In Dune the protagonist, Paul Atreides, becomes the messiah or mahdi of the Fremen, and begins a holy war or jihad by destroying the harvesters that provide the Empire with an essential natural resource. Are you really saying that it should be against the rules of Eve to roleplay a race like the Fremen?
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Jane Sylari
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:15:00 -
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Hi, please stop making us dutchies look bad, thanks.
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Caleese
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 Now, i couldn't care less if goonies blow up another hulk or not, but what i am rather disturbed about is the fact there using religous terms to do so.
Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
Now i'm from the Netherlands myself and i can't really smile about some ****weed screaming 'Allahu Akbar' in local esp due to current events which i will not go into any further here (cuz ccp will block my ass if i do)
cmon ccp, ur locking threads in the 'out of topic' section of the forums, why not block some people *cough* goonies *cough* who use this term ingame as well?
Please keep your real life prejudice/issues out of my internet computer game tia ----------------- Think of someone you consider of average intelligence... now realise this. Half the worlds population is dumber than that person. How does the world survive such stupidity? |
welshman
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:21:00 -
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if we use the word crusade them the pc lot would be down on people like a ton
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Lyria Skydancer
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: 000Hunter000 logic? i'm just stating i don't like the part where some jerks use RL terms ingame where we all know damn well there just doing it cuz it's a popular term! No double standards, i think goonies using RL religious terms in game is bad.
No double standards, eh? I don't see you starting threads about the Crusader or Inquisitor being offensive. You have taken a history class, I assume.
QFT & HAHA & PWND.
People should look at ALL the amarr ship names and stfu. Goon references are fine. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare II |
BlondieBC
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:53:00 -
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JihadSwarm adds color to the game.
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Ulstan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.30 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ulstan on 30/03/2008 01:59:20 So you're saying all religious references in game should meet with bannage? Wow!
Anyway, not like the netherlands government does anything about jihadists IRL (other than banning anythign remotely critical of them) why should CCP do something about them in a GAME?
To be consistent with Europe IRL policty, CCP should probably go around suppressing anyone who says anything bad about the Goons/jidhadswarm.
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.03.30 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: BlondieBC JihadSwarm adds color to the game.
too easy to make a minmatar joke
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Gikanzin
Ravenclaw Manufacturing DeStInY.
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Posted - 2008.03.30 02:18:00 -
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Tbh I can understand how you feel about someone shout that in local channel right before using smartbomb or some other type of module to suicide a ship in empire space. Just be like others and ignore it since most people nowadays just think of terms like these as jokes since they never really experience or thought how others might feel about it.
For me I will just brush it off and think of it as just another term used in some action movies or something which a standup comedian might use.
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N1fty
Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.03.30 02:24:00 -
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Ultimately pointless thread, is pointless.
Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia I usually close my eyes and just beg, out loud added with a lot of squealing.
I swear it helps.
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El'Niaga
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.30 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Atreides Horza Edited by: Atreides Horza on 30/03/2008 00:11:35
Originally by: 000Hunter000 Now, i couldn't care less if goonies blow up another hulk or not, but what i am rather disturbed about is the fact there using religous terms to do so.
Tbh i think ccp should ban the lot if they keep up their appearance of a holy war, esp in current times.
Now i'm from the Netherlands myself and i can't really smile about some ****weed screaming 'Allahu Akbar' in local esp due to current events which i will not go into any further here (cuz ccp will block my ass if i do)
cmon ccp, ur locking threads in the 'out of topic' section of the forums, why not block some people *cough* goonies *cough* who use this term ingame as well?
Funny how right-wingers hail the principles of free speech when they preach their own propaganda and racial/cultural slur, all while vigorously pushing for others to be silenced under the banner of 'protecting democracy'.
Nonetheless, I'd say this belongs in out-of-game... and even still, your argument isn't really an argument, now is it? Just a petition to have CCP remove something stirring some irrational fear inside you. Incidently, I'm afraid of bananas. No, really! So, can I please have CCP remove the celestis-hull from the game? Or we could cater to the (probably very small) minority of feminist gamers finding the phallic nature of the thorax offensive by simply removing them from the game (the thoraxes ofc... not the women).
You do see this is getting a bit ridiculous, right? :)
Actually if you look at various literature etc, conservatives (the so called right wingers) are far more tolerant of other viewpoints than liberals (the so called left wingers).
They also give more money to charity and seek to help their fellow man more than liberals.
As far as the OP, the reference to any real world religion should not be allowed in game for the same reasons it is not allowed on the forums.
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Daelorn
Dark Cartel Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Face Palmer
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Malcanis
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doctorstupid2
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Posted - 2008.03.30 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: BlondieBC JihadSwarm adds color to the game.
too easy to make a minmatar joke
rofl
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Phroneo
Southern Cross Incorporated Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.30 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan Edited by: Ulstan on 30/03/2008 01:59:20 So you're saying all religious references in game should meet with bannage? Wow!
Anyway, not like the netherlands government does anything about jihadists IRL (other than banning anythign remotely critical of them) why should CCP do something about them in a GAME?
To be consistent with Europe IRL policty, CCP should probably go around suppressing anyone who says anything bad about the Goons/jidhadswarm.
QFA
Additionally, if the OP actually feels any discomfort with the associated religious group, any mockery and thus disempowerment of the words should be welcome.
Cmon', South Park regularly mocks just about everything. It is this freedom to see even terrible things in a humorous light that makes our nations so great. It is suppression of such freedoms so as not to offend some people that is the real danger. I don't believe that anyone who gets very offended (sometimes suicidally or homicidally) over something they have not seen and could not prove, should be taken seriously.
Perhaps victims may be offended but they should remember that these Goons are not mocking the human toll of suicide attacks but the crazy ideas behind them. -- It may be that the old astrologers had the truth exactly reversed, when they believed that the stars controlled the destinies of men. The time may come when men control the destinies of stars. ACC |
Cypher V
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Posted - 2008.03.30 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: EnslaverOfMinmatar Allah is a fictional entity, just like the God Emperor you mentioned, just like Jesus Christ, Buddah, etc.
I agree, but be careful... God sees all remember? Or was it God ****s us all? I can't remember. ----------------------------------------------
Yeeees, YEEEES! Sell all your Cargo Expander IIs in Jita and Rens... Let MEEE have the profit... |
Atreides Horza
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Posted - 2008.03.30 07:35:00 -
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Edited by: Atreides Horza on 30/03/2008 07:35:59
Originally by: El'Niaga Actually if you look at various literature etc, conservatives (the so called right wingers) are far more tolerant of other viewpoints than liberals (the so called left wingers).
Pamphlets from the NRA and Fine Young Americans Association isn't literature, in case you didn't know... and if I wanted an answer as to who's tolerant and who's not, I wouldn't be looking for it in literature - contemporary or otherwize. My argument was that it's absurd moaning about free speech in an attempt to silence others. I think it still stands.
Originally by: El'Niaga
They also give more money to charity and seek to help their fellow man more than liberals.
Guess what... Giving money to charities in countries that your government has messed up thoroughly isn't charity either.
Originally by: El'Niaga
As far as the OP, the reference to any real world religion should not be allowed in game for the same reasons it is not allowed on the forums.
That's all kosher with me. Would you mind if we remove all corps with names, rules, badges, bios, etc. referring to real life american military units engaged in fighting all across the middle-east? I'm sure we could whip up a score or more afghans or iraqis who feel threatened by slogans such as 'Death from Above' and all that jazz. Oh wait, maybe they're too busy surviving the 'charity work' of foreign nations in their respective countries.
As for the OP, he's got his own agenda. You've got yours. I've got mine. Why not just leave them at the door and play our game without all the fears, prejudices and half-arsed rethorics that are currently making such a mess of the world we live in?
To plunder, to slaughter, to steal, these things they misname empire; and where they make a wilderness, they call it peace. - Tacitus |
Huntress Irichii
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Posted - 2008.03.30 07:57:00 -
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A) Theo van Gogh was killed a long time ago. /care
B) "recent" developments is a crazed politician that just got out a new video in which he completely, utterly incriminates Islam, putting them on the same bench as ****s.
Please, let this Jihadswarm blow themselves up more in Eve. My care level nearly explodes.
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Polonium 210
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Posted - 2008.03.30 08:00:00 -
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Because if it is not said it does not exists.
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Furb Killer
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Posted - 2008.03.30 08:39:00 -
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@huntress, the only thing that politician did (wilders), was start windows movie maker and copy pasted some things from news papers and television. Since when is something wrong with copy pasting FACTS? The only reason anyone cares is because the other dutch politicians are screaming we are all gonna die now. Besides that no one cares.
btw, lol @ conservatives less discriminating. That is probably why bush senior would have no problems with deporting all atheists. Why? Because they are atheist...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2008.03.30 10:03:00 -
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There are many people out there who find the word "crusader" every bit as offensive as other people find the word "jihad".
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Steve Celeste
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Posted - 2008.03.30 10:07:00 -
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OP needs to snap out of it.
Too bad that a lot of ppl from NL think like him.
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Ogul
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Posted - 2008.03.30 10:15:00 -
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As far as the NL controversy goes I can only say:
Originally by: Nigel Powers
There's just two things in this world that I can't stand. It's people who are intolerant of other people's culture ... and the Dutch!
--- Don't put your trust in revolutions. They always come around again. That's why they're called revolutions. People die, and nothing changes. |
Overwhelmed
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.30 10:29:00 -
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Haven't you heard? You're not cool unless you're offending by everything.
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Nanahonka
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.30 10:42:00 -
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To OP: They (Goons) have fun in a game, nothing else.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:07:00 -
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TBH I'm offended by violent conflict, particularly because of current events that I will not elaborate further on. I think the word "war" and any synonyms or associated concepts should be removed from the game to force everyone to adhere to my personal tastes as to what constitutes socially acceptable behavior. We are civilized, after all. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
flakeys
Tier 3 Technologies Inc Lazy is our middle name
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: flakeys on 30/03/2008 11:18:59
Originally by: Sereifex Daku
Originally by: 000Hunter000 Just asking for equall rights tbh, if ccp blocks people from using this **** on their forums they should block (aka ban) people from using said terms ingame as well.
i couldn't care less about religion in any form, i just hate it when people abuse it under false pretence.
if they wanna make it religious and keep it in the spirit of the game they should scream something in the line of 'for the God Emperor!' or something.
Your logic is flawed because what happens inside the game..happens inside the game. CCP staff have stated on numerous occasions thateven if you don't roleplay, you are still part of the story. The news service does a report on an alliance invading some system even if they don't rp. so what happens inside eve (no matter how ludicrous) is part of the story. The forum, on the other hand, are not part of the story (with the exception of the in-character alliance/corporation related forums).
So if any of your relatives die , i can make fun of it ingame as long as i don't make jokes about it on the forum?
To the op:Don't listen to anything goons say cause you can't blaim them for being dumbs tbh..they behave as they are.Just ignore it ..
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Cleric JohnPreston
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:19:00 -
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I agree with the OP, this game has no need for ridiculous and very insensitive contexts. Those that disagree, sure why not ask for bomber jackets in ambulation to gank inside stations, or maybe I`ll take my battleship and fly it into the side of a station.
Grow up. I think there's enough political crap in the world with out bringing it into this game. I mean it would be very very easy to make an alliance name that would insult the Russians.
Perhaps "KillaCommie Alliance" to start with, until i find something that is offensive, which would be quite easy tbfh.
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Overwhelmed
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cleric JohnPreston I agree with the OP, this game has no need for ridiculous and very insensitive contexts. Those that disagree, sure why not ask for bomber jackets in ambulation to gank inside stations, or maybe I`ll take my battleship and fly it into the side of a station.
I would absolutely love a bomber jacket in Ambluation.
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Phroneo
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: flakeys Edited by: flakeys on 30/03/2008 11:18:59 So if any of your relatives die , i can make fun of it ingame as long as i don't make jokes about it on the forum?
Goons are not glorifying the deaths of any Iraqi civilians or US troops. They are just mocking the crazy people committing these terrible acts and the ideas behind them. I am pretty sure that CCP would intervene if someone started spamming local with trash talk abusing someone's family and wishing torture and death upon them.
Most people should see some merit in mocking the whole Jihad ideas and members but probably not so in mocking 9/11 victims forced to jump due to fire or smoke. -- It may be that the old astrologers had the truth exactly reversed, when they believed that the stars controlled the destinies of men. The time may come when men control the destinies of stars. ACC |
Karyuudo Tydraad
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Posted - 2008.03.30 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Phroneo Goons are not glorifying the deaths of any Iraqi civilians or US troops. They are just mocking the crazy people committing these terrible acts and the ideas behind them. I am pretty sure that CCP would intervene if someone started spamming local with trash talk abusing someone's family and wishing torture and death upon them.
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