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Cindy Goodwill	Posted - 2004.04.17 22:54:00 - [1] Everything is in this order: worst-best from top to bottom, with some exceptions Gunnery Hybrid Railguns Carbide Scout Compressed Coil Prototype Gauss Hybrid Blasters Regulated Limited Anode Modal Hybrid Damage Mods Insulated Linear Flux Gauss Field Magnetic Vortex Projectiles Carbine Gallium Prototype Scout Projectile Damage Mods Cross-Lateral F-M3 Munition Pneumatic Counterbalanced Lasers Afocal Modal Anode Modulated Laser Damage Mods Thermal Exhaust C4S Coiled Circuit Skadi Coolant Extruded Heat Sink Missile Launchers Malkuth Limos XX-0000 (ex. XR-3200 for Heavy, ZW-4100 for siege) Arbalest Mining Lasers EP-S Gaussian Dual Diode XeCl Cu Vapor Shield Boosters Converse Neutron Saturation Clarity Ward C5-L Armor Repairers I-a Polarized Inefficient Automated Accomodation Hull Repairers Automated I-b Polarized Hope Inefficient Hull Mods Basic Marked Modified Type-E Altered SS Alpha Hull Mod Partial Hull Conversion Tech 1 Mark I Modified SS Type-D Altered SS Beta Hull Mod Local Hull Conversion Armor Plates Nanofiber Titanium Chrystaline Carbonide Rolled Tungsten Shield Extenders Supplemental Subordinate Azeotropic F-S9 Regolith Shield Transporters Asymmetric Murky Atonement S95A Partial Energy Transporters Asymmetric Murky Partial E95A Regard Co Processors Nanoelectrical Nanomechanical Quantum Photonic Cap Batteries Ld-Acid Ohm F-4a Ld-Sulfate Peroxide Cap Boosters Brief Tapered F-RX Electrochemical Reactor Mods Basic Type-E Partial Marked Alpha Tech 1 Type-D Local Mark I Beta Warp Scramblers Initiated (Harmonic) Fleeting (Progressive) J5(b Phased) Prototype Faint (Epsilon) Sensor Backup Alumel Supplemental Positional Prototype So much for the universal mods, now for some specifics: Smartbombs Vehemice - EM Notos - Thermal YF-12A - Kinetic Rudimentary Concussion - Explosive Shield Hardners Anointed - EM Ditrigonal - Thermal Non-Inertial - Kinetic F-S15 Braced - Explosive V-M15 Braced Multispectral - All Cap Rechargers Basic Industrial Secondary Parallel F-a10 Buffer AGM Tech 1 Barton Fixed Parallel F-b10 Nominal Eutectic Energy Neutralizers Rudimentary Gremlin 5W Infectious Unstable Energy Nosferatus Ghoul Knave E5 Prototype Diminishing Afterburners Monopropellant (1MN) Cold Gas (1MN) Y-S8 Hydrocarbon (10MN) LiF (100MN) MicroWarpDrives Phased Monopropellant (1MN) Catalysed Cold Gas (1MN) Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon (10MN) Quad LiF (100MN) ECM Burst Ra...
Maddi	Posted - 2004.04.17 23:22:00 - [2] Very nice list thx
whohuhwhat	Posted - 2004.04.18 00:15:00 - [3] Yes, thanks, it's very helpful. whohuhwhat Director, WWJD 'STRIPPING A BELT NEAR YOU' w00t for patch day 2004.08.10 18:19:08combatYour Inferno Torpedo I hits Serpentis Guard, do
Carca	Posted - 2004.04.18 00:29:00 - [4] Nice one.
Cindy Goodwill	Posted - 2004.04.18 00:35:00 - [5] perhaps tomorrow, when i have recovered from the RSI this list has caused me, i will even add the most important values of em, like '60%' at the F-90. But thats only if im feeling upto it ----------------------------------------------- Watch my leet everchanging dynamic signature \o/ http://www.games-on.nl/~cu2moro/evesigphp/icon.php?blaat=.GIF
Ajzhyn Raef	Posted - 2004.04.18 04:18:00 - [6] I reccomend a Sticky for this one. A very useful reference I must say. And do you really need to list the specifics of the mods? Isnt there just a pattern? I know for the weapons each named mod is 5% better than the last in the relevant attributes, i.e. 5% higher Dam mod and tracking for turrets. I'm not sure if the 5% pattern applies to all mods though. Thanks for the info on the named RCU/PDs, been looking for that one. -=Ajzhyn Raef, Runner of Missions, Helper of n00bs=- -=New Folks Feel Free to Convo Me In-Game=-
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.18 11:11:00 - [7] A nice list, but unfortunately it doesn't completely work that way, take rails for instance, I prefer carbide 425s cause they have the lowest cpu usage, and with blaster cannons I prefer regulated cause they have the lowest cap usage. There's more to it then just damage sometimes :D ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Douro	Posted - 2004.04.18 12:28:00 - [8] Awesome list, thank you! :)
Amin	Posted - 2004.04.18 12:52:00 - [9] Edited by: Amin on 18/04/2004 12:53:40 Nice list Cindy, might be useful if u post a link in the EVE New Citizens section of the forums, as im sure this is something most newbie's would want to know. Drink StarsiÖ Relation Co-ordinator Caldari State Citizen ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Uuve Savisaalo	Posted - 2004.04.19 01:36:00 - [10] I thank you very much for this detailed list, however I do not think that the 'best to worst' mentality applies to these modules. For an example, the kapetyn sensor array inhibitor has a significantly lower sensor resolution decuction value (I don't remember the exact number) than, say, indirect or low-frequency, but it is significantly higher in sensor range reduction value! I think a lot of items in eve follow more of a 'rock-paper-scissors' formula rather than standard progression. Certain items have lower damage but faster firing rates or lower grid/cpu requirements..etc..
Vanaaa	Posted - 2004.04.19 09:02:00 - [11] This list will make loot-sorting so much easier :-) Thank you for putting it together. Tough, I'd rather see this in an faq sort of thing than in a sticky...
BH Skadi	Posted - 2004.04.19 09:21:00 - [12] Edited by: BH Skadi on 19/04/2004 09:23:24 Yea nice list , may i ask a (couple of) question? (hope my leads doesn't hang me ) Do you think the naming of metas is too hard to keep track to? hard to keep track of which module is the the better one or even what it is? Would you rather prefer a system where the metas was named as MK x? Similar as Iteron is MK I-V. For example 425mm Railgun MK IV I [MK4 I, if one would like] (425mm Prototype Gauss Railgun I) where 425mm Railgun MK I I would be the standard 425mm Railgun I. Or maybe a mixed version such as 425mm 'Prototype' Railgun MK4, where the name still is in for those that like some vary but where the MKx really is what vary the stats? Comments/Thoughts?
Moah	Posted - 2004.04.19 09:33:00 - [13] Its a little bit confusing with all this rare names. I would love to see the "MK I - V" versions... 425mm MK I 425mm MK II 425mm MK III 425mm MK IV 425mm MK V Fancy.
Jan Ors	Posted - 2004.04.19 09:42:00 - [14] Quote: Yea nice list , may i ask a (couple of) question? (hope my leads doesn't hang me ) Do you think the naming of metas is too hard to keep track to? hard to keep track of which module is the the better one or even what it is? Would you rather prefer a system where the metas was named as MK x? Similar as Iteron is MK I-V. For example 425mm Railgun MK IV I [MK4 I, if one would like] (425mm Prototype Gauss Railgun I) where 425mm Railgun MK I I would be the standard 425mm Railgun I. Or maybe a mixed version such as 425mm 'Prototype' Railgun MK4, where the name still is in for those that like some vary but where the MKx really is what vary the stats? Comments/Thoughts? Sometimes meta modules are confusing to see which ones are better, a Mk system would be an improvement, although I would much prefer the mixed idea - like the 425mm 'Prototype' Railgun MK4 example. Do you have the power to influence this kind of change? ________ My chosen sig won't fit. Fah.
Gariuys	Posted - 2004.04.19 10:14:00 - [15] I already mentioned it in this thread but I'll say it again, the improvements between the different loot versions make it impossible to simply say this one should be MK IV and this should be MK II. And the whole I-V thing is already used for the different tech versions. Just leave it alone, it's worked for this long and now stuff is getting replaced by techII you wanna mess with it. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Jan Ors	Posted - 2004.04.19 10:50:00 - [16] Edited by: Jan Ors on 19/04/2004 10:52:45 Actually, it is a simple as saying that one is Mk 4 and this one is Mk 2. Because it would be based on the item's effectiveness at doing it's job, in this case, the ammount of damage the weapon causes - not how efficient it is at doing it. And anyhow, there wouldn't be confusion in the Tech and Mk items, because one uses roman numerals (ie Tech II), and the other is uses numerics (ie Mk 2). Not to mention that Tech II+ items have a little flag in the corner. ________ My chosen sig won't fit. Fah.
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2004.04.19 10:53:00 - [17] I prefer the creative naming, and the level of knowledge that must be mastered in order to discover where your new named items falls on the power curve ------- K. Raven
Jarjar	Posted - 2004.04.19 11:11:00 - [18] I prefer the way it is. A bit confusing with all kinds of modules but that's bit of the fun isn't it?
Moah	Posted - 2004.04.19 11:40:00 - [19] What problems with tech levels? 425mm Railgun I MK V = Tech 1 425mm Prototype 425mm Railgun II MK IV = Tech 2 425mm Compressed Fancy.
BH Skadi	Posted - 2004.04.19 16:26:00 - [20] Quote: Do you have the power to influence this kind of change? With enough support from you, players, anything is possible . Personally I'd like something like this so you would be have too check the stats all the time but could figure them out before hand.
Jan Ors	Posted - 2004.04.19 22:26:00 - [21] I still think that the mixed version is a good idea, as it makes it clearer to players (mainly the newer ones) how a modules meta variants compare with eachother, but at the same time keeps with the current named system we have - because the names make whatever meta module you have feel, well, special. If it helps, see it as adding a Mk to the name, and not as just changing the names dramatically. ________ My chosen sig won't fit. Fah.
PreTender	Posted - 2004.04.20 08:24:00 - [22] dont we get other problems with the mk ? like 425mm railgun mkII - II as in 425mm 'scout'railgun tech level 2 __________________________ http://www.eve-extra.com
Martinus Crimson	Posted - 2004.04.20 08:30:00 - [23] Please sticky this one :) MK I MK II wouldn't be so clear because you would get a TL2. shield booster MKII II , but i like the idea very mutch and mayb it's an idea to put the MKII in front of the names like : MKII "Clarity Shield Booster II" or just MKII Shield Booster II. -----------------------
Jan Ors	Posted - 2004.04.20 09:13:00 - [24] Just have the Mk number as numerics (ie 1,2,3 etc) and the Tech Level as Roman numerals (ie I, II, III etc). Problem solved, no issue there. ________ My chosen sig won't fit. Fah.
Amaxma	Posted - 2004.04.20 12:30:00 - [25] Top job there m8, ty VERY VERY much
FZappa	Posted - 2004.04.20 13:27:00 - [26] Edited by: FZappa on 21/04/2004 04:28:07 i think u got an error on armorplates. nanofiber is 2nd , its better then the normal 1600mm plates (titanium?) edit doh! , nevermind my bad . -------------------------
Spyder Murphy	Posted - 2004.04.20 15:17:00 - [27] Edited by: Spyder Murphy on 20/04/2004 20:18:13 Originally by: FZappa i think u got an error on armorplates. nanofiber is 2nd , its better then the normal 1600mm plates (titanium?) AFAIK the listed is correct, the nanofiber armours are the worst special but I have (or had) a Type-E ship scanner, which I think is the best one. I'll check tonight Edit found it "Practical Type-E Ship Probe" and is already listed Oh well The names are great as they are, MK I et al would just suck, they would seem like Freelancer guns . While it would be easier to tell what they are it would IMHO take away thier special value and, not to mention, make threads like this one redundant. Your Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I perfectly strikes Serpentis Smuggler, wrecking for 218.0 damage. Verge û noun - An extreme limit beyond which something specified will happen.
Postman	Posted - 2004.04.20 16:56:00 - [28] I compiled the list to make it ingame compatible. This is the address: http://oss.ath.cx/eve/loot.html ----------------------- EVE-DB Staff member
EnderWiggin	Posted - 2004.04.20 17:05:00 - [29] Edited by: EnderWiggin on 20/04/2004 17:15:17 I like the names as they are, I just don't like the overlap in similar/same words in some of the guns (ie carbine/carbide or proto/proto gauss). Just had a thought - use the current or a similar naming system, but make an easy to remember whats best, similar to the asteroid situation. For example, scout is closer to z than carbide, so make that better. Just an idea. ---------- [ 2004.05.06 05:12:04 ] (combat) Your 250mm Railgun I perfectly strikes Guristas Invader, wrecking for 155.7 damage.
Noa Strimmer	Posted - 2004.04.20 20:52:00 - [30] the list is now available trough Postman's link, and through the Hazard Ops ingame corpsite, which also includes two other nifty things... one of which i am working on right now... do with it as you please http://hazop.games-on.nl/ingame/ or follow our link from the corp info :) _____________________

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