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General Oni	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:01:00 - [31] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. Look a new Jenny! It's the "Get this Jenny a Speak and spell" Jenny! Naa. You've heard of Lolcats? Well now it seems we have a Loljenny.
slothe	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:02:00 - [32] think it took me a year before i was happily in a (turret) bs. you can jump in a raven quicker i think. ive known players that only jumped in one after 2 years, and others that refuse to fly them at all. ]
Karlemgne	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:22:00 - [33] I don't want to be an alarmist, or a poo-pooist, but... after one year, nine months, and eight days and over 30,000,000 sps I am still not able to fly a large number of ships. I can fly a mean Astarte, Sleipnir, Hurricane, Domi, and Megathron, but I couldn't fly a Minmatar BS, or even get into a recon. As for a time line? I don't know what to tell you really, because when I started playing characters got 60k skill points at creation. Hitting a million was a big deal back then. Having said that, in about 6 months I could fly a Dominix into pvp situations and be competent. Of course it was a NOS domi, which didn't require me to train for large turrets/missiles and I didn't have drone interfacing 5 or heavy drones 5, but I could fly it competently. It all really depends on what you want to fly, and what you want to do with what you fly. Getting into a BS immediately to pvp isn't a great idea, but I'm sure if you are only interested in running missions, you'd be fine getting into one soon. -Karlemgne
Karlemgne	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:24:00 - [34] Originally by: Feng Schui Edited by: Feng Schui on 04/04/2008 23:51:37 My main character (Feng) didn't fly battleships till he was over a year old, and even then, it was only for missions. I'm only flying a Battleship in pvp now since my preferred ship cannot tank sentries very well (his damage still sucks for pvp though). My alt character, who will be running missions, is in a battleship with 2 weeks of training. He doesn't do level 4's quite as comfortably as Feng, however, I know how to pull the rats so I don't die. Experience > SP in these regards. edit: as far as total amounts, he is sitting at 2.5 million skill points, with 1.2 million in research skills You might be a dude in real life, but don't look now, Fend is a chick. Given that wouldn't the more appropriate pronoun be "he"? :-) -K
Sokratesz	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:27:00 - [35] I toyed around in a cormorant untill i had monies to buy a ferox, two weeks maybe, then did lvl 3 missions for another few weeks to get a raven. Lost it on my first lvl 4 mission =P Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Yes i know i spelled COAD wrong. Stop mailing me about it I refuse to read SHC
Karlemgne	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Jinx Barker Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. What "vets" your character has been sold and re-sold more times than a Bangkok hooker! There is plenty of slightly more than anecdotal evidence that the character was never sold, and the original owner's just playing the multiple personality disorder sham on us for giggles. /This ffs I've been saying this for awhile, nobody listens.
Ruah Piskonit	Posted - 2008.04.05 08:35:00 - [37] I stuck with the Punisher for a long time, maby 6 months for PvP, in pve I moved to the Maller in 3 weeks and stuck there for a good 6 months before I was in a battleship. Battleships were a little rare when I started, and 100 mil was a lot of money to me. ---- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Ioci Ioci Exploration Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:13:00 - [38] BS now and BS then aren't the same thing. Worry about your fittings first. When you can outfit a Raven in T2 fittings, fly a Raven. Or an Abaddon, make your choice but the ship is not as valuable as the set up. Base BS or noob BS are sitting ducks. Armor resists suck, lock speeds suck, speed is hideous, maneuverability is cruel. Eve left the bigger is better concept behind when T2 was born. Honest? Get in a Command ship. You will have alot more fun.
Seldaaria	Posted - 2008.04.05 09:21:00 - [39] Originally by: Benco97 A long long time, never was interested in the big ships and there wasn't as much variation back then so I just did almost everything in my MKV (Which took me SEVENTY TWO days to train) MKV? All these acronym's are rather annoying...
BloodBird	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:20:00 - [40] Originally by: Seldaaria Originally by: Benco97 A long long time, never was interested in the big ships and there wasn't as much variation back then so I just did almost everything in my MKV (Which took me SEVENTY TWO days to train) MKV? All these acronym's are rather annoying... MKV - Mark V (Iteron mk5, I think) Might just be wrong though. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Sig source
Fink Angel	Posted - 2008.04.05 10:24:00 - [41] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. You are getting really, really annoying with this ridiculousness. Any no, that isn't how dyslexia presents itself, so don't try that one again. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Lord Evangelian The White Mantle	Posted - 2008.04.05 11:57:00 - [42] For me, I waited untill I could fit a full T2 set on my BS with out any aids with T2 drones before I flew BS seriously. I also made sure I specced in T2 ships up to BS becuase the skills help with the ability to fly other ships, like Engnering Electronics Advanced wepon upgrades ect -------------------- The White Mantle
Mazare Mircea The Scope	Posted - 2008.04.05 12:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. Took me more than 1yr to get into BS's, and I'm not really that 'vet'. ----- Do androids dream of electric sheep ?
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2008.04.05 13:02:00 - [44] First of all there were no battlecruisers, second battleships were a major investment and I remembered it hurt losing them. NPC were puny back then but so were we, then as now you didn't need big ships to hunt in 0.0. I only ever fly battleships when I have to, which isn't often. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
SwindonBadger	Posted - 2008.04.05 14:24:00 - [45] Created char with a few others (who worked in the same games comapany)after the game was just relased. We made a small corp, one guy went the trading route, I went down the mining route and the other npcing. Thats pritty much all u could do but it was all new and fun. Hi lights were watching one guy earn enough for a bs and dye hauling his trade more then once and getting my first thorax and spawn chaining a gallent cruiser spawn with the npcing guy till m0o came along and we had to run away, heavly outnumberd and looking at 3 hours worth of loot (we could not even kill the spawn chain lol). Got my first domi lost to disconect before insured. Join IT mined and small scale pvp till I left for 6 months. Rejoined BA/QDF days. Bs were now allot more commen and I could make isk ok ratting in 0.0 rather then mining. Pvp wise it started solo with 2 mwd thorax 1600 plate and heavy drones. The only ship I found worked against the raiding pirates in 2 mwd ruptures and the cap issue change made it work. Hi lights were early days fighting BE in 2mwd ravens and cruise laucher Kessies to fleet fights, most favourable moments fighting ruskies and bob. Using T2 guns was key at these times and learing how to load grids. I left again to rejoin months later and went the pirate/nomad route. No pollatics (bob were blue and that ment no dencent pew pew). Capitols were emerging when I came back and we had hacs afs ( I loved enyo ). the change to nomad from allaince was a step welcome, and soon the triad merged with BA to form OB. At this point u could make isk in a number of ways. I did get into fleet bs, but really to me I like flying not just coming out of warp and aligning. So I played the scoute, the tackler and scavenger. I have put all my training into small ships, mainly Tranis sabre, crow ew frigs and just recenlty something a little bigger, a vagga. I preffer the inty the most since the sabre got nerffed :) and life for these pilots is pritty much what it was when they came out. "Hi lights" Fleet fights v BoB ie the good old fasioned bs slug, suporting a mom in chaos, trapping waves of enemies with bubles but most of all solo scouting. Pre added rigs and nanos for speed inties could still fly at 4 to 9 kps and not die easliy to bs guns... if u imagne taking a rails ranis thats slower then a handfull of std crows (rasta rocket man 07) but the closing speed they have is something u can handle .... its about as fun as can be. All this time and I also canot fly comand ships yet .. ) I think Id like a mach to be my best ever ship and nothing bigger, I can get that bs skill but the longer I leave it the more special it will be. That one ship can cause so much fighing once a succses full "bump" has occered I sugest going down the route of say a bs and something fast as 2 routes. If u do want to get into large capitols at some point ull need bs lev 5.... but if u want to be manouvable u have a few choices. Hac = Vagga ishtar/ zellot but could easliy become just vagga with a patch. Recons/covert opps inties dictors and ew frigs. If u want good suport ships then command ships, and logistics ships. U will also need to make a dessions on do I join a pirate corp/mining corp allaince and in doing so narrow your choices. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Eat Them all, let the digestion sort em out
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2008.04.05 15:18:00 - [46] Originally by: Fink Angel Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. You are getting really, really annoying with this ridiculousness. Any no, that isn't how dyslexia presents itself, so don't try that one again. ^^This. And I noticed that is not how dyslexia presents either...even had a fair post going on about it then decided best not to encourage her or get in a debate over what dyslexia is and is not here. Glad someone else noticed though. -------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
Elles D	Posted - 2008.04.05 15:22:00 - [47] I bought my first battleship two weeks old, it was a stab raven with heavy launchers and i don't regret it one little bit Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint
The Judge D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2008.04.05 15:48:00 - [48] As far as i remember battleships were available from day 1 of eve, just that nobody had the skills or isk to fly them for a while. Anyway took me a couple months to get the isk together, ninja mining in 0.0 in a thorax took a while, and it wasn't actually that well known at the time that you could tank the rats in belts whilst mining. Then took several more months to get the real skills you need to fly a battleship properly, again this was before advanced learning skills so took longer. Remember seeing my first battleship, was an Armageddon and there was no 'Look at' feature back then, so you actually had to fly up to the ship to see it and they were huge.
Something Random Aliastra	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:07:00 - [49] I started mining for my first battleship from day one really - well probably day 5 once id woke up to the possibilities. I think it took maybe 2 months to step into my first BS, and no i couldnt fly it right but it didnt stop me going ratting in low sec and mining in it in low sec. It was a megathron, and all the apoc owners laughed at me - now that shows its age.
Brolly Atkumi Corp	Posted - 2008.04.05 16:28:00 - [50] I waited for over a year until I got a bs, it wasn't really an issue as I was having fun training all races frigs and cruisers Don't get why so many peeps go straight for bs's with gimped setups, it's counter productive imho
Karlemgne	Posted - 2008.04.05 17:26:00 - [51] Originally by: Ioci BS now and BS then aren't the same thing. Worry about your fittings first. When you can outfit a Raven in T2 fittings, fly a Raven. Or an Abaddon, make your choice but the ship is not as valuable as the set up. Base BS or noob BS are sitting ducks. Armor resists suck, lock speeds suck, speed is hideous, maneuverability is cruel. Eve left the bigger is better concept behind when T2 was born. Honest? Get in a Command ship. You will have alot more fun. Not necessarily true. I have can fly command ships, and I love my command ships, believe me. I also love my battleships. And lets put it like this, when I lose my command ship, I generally lose about 350 million of fittings ship and rigs. When I lose a battleship, because of insurance, I'm only really losing maybe 180 million... if that. This makes me a lot braver, and thus I often have more fun, when I'm flying a BS. -Karlemgne
Benco97	Posted - 2008.04.05 17:31:00 - [52] Originally by: BloodBird Originally by: Seldaaria Originally by: Benco97 A long long time, never was interested in the big ships and there wasn't as much variation back then so I just did almost everything in my MKV (Which took me SEVENTY TWO days to train) MKV? All these acronym's are rather annoying... MKV - Mark V (Iteron mk5, I think) Might just be wrong though. Ohh, sorry about that. I didn't mean to cause any confusion and yes, I meant Iteron MK V. Originally by: Kirjava This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
Seldaaria	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:00:00 - [53] Originally by: BloodBird MKV - Mark V (Iteron mk5, I think) Might just be wrong though. Thanks :) Originally by: Benco97 Ohh, sorry about that. I didn't mean to cause any confusion and yes, I meant Iteron MK V. No worries, thanks for the clarification!
Toadboy	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:14:00 - [54] I didn't fly a BS for over year and a half; I thought it was more important to get my fighting skills up first (missile skills; shield skills, armor skills,etc), before investing in an expensive Battleship (plus getting the insurance to cover the eventual loss). I felt this was the way to go and really enjoyed flying cruisers.. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
nahtoh Bull Industries United For 0rder	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:47:00 - [55] Edited by: nahtoh on 05/04/2008 18:49:26 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Originally by: Fink Angel Originally by: Jenny Spitfire New plaiyers flies bettelship in 3 monhts. Vets liek we flied battelship after 6 mnoths. You are getting really, really annoying with this ridiculousness. Any no, that isn't how dyslexia presents itself, so don't try that one again. ^^This. And I noticed that is not how dyslexia presents either...even had a fair post going on about it then decided best not to encourage her or get in a debate over what dyslexia is and is not here. Glad someone else noticed though. Well the defination of dyslexia has change a lot overy the years...espially in the USA...but then again you will propably advise me that I do not have it...mind it effects me in some fairly bizarre ways... On topic, about a year before I started to fly one maybe more. But my skill planning did kinda resemble "oh shiney" in its approach. ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:52:00 - [56] Well back in the day bs were rare and I doubt many had a bs in 6months - mostly the skill training was not the issue, cost of buying a bs was. My 1st bs was a temp and a member of m0o brought it for me (he has long since quit). I lost that in .0 ratting and learned the value of insurance (i.e. I never had any). Not sure how long b4 I got my 2nd bs, but I remember getting back in a rupture hurt like hell. Until, I remembered what fun they were and I got my 2nd bs by running lvl 3 missions (4 were not around then)! MAFIA Website
Ja'kar MAFIA	Posted - 2008.04.05 18:54:00 - [57] Well back in the day bs were rare and I doubt many had a bs in 6months - mostly the skill training was not the issue, cost of buying a bs was. My 1st bs was a temp and a member of m0o brought it for me (he has long since quit). I lost that in .0 ratting and learned the value of insurance (i.e. I never had any). Not sure how long b4 I got my 2nd bs, but I remember getting back in a rupture hurt like hell. Until, I remembered what fun they were and I got my 2nd bs by running lvl 3 missions (4 were not around then!) As for what we had trained I had mostly gunnery skills and everything else was low... bc/hacs/af... were not in the game when I started. MAFIA Website
Dungheap Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2008.04.05 20:48:00 - [58] grats on being patient and not rushing into a ship you're not ready for. you will be much happier for it in the long run, when you can do a battleship and the weapons it uses justice. jumped in my first cruiser at 2 months or so. i tanked that blackbird quite heavily, so i thought. only to have a corpmate burn my shields back and hold me helpless in his nasty punisher. the importance of good support skills was forever etched in my brain after that, and i was 2 yrs. old before losing my first bs. *shakes fist in general direction of delve..
Shintai Balad Naran Orbital Shipyards	Posted - 2008.04.05 20:53:00 - [59] Back then you used medium guns on battleships because large wasnt in game yet And my megathron could tank 8 other battleships and 3 crusiers for 3 minutes before my friends came and whacked the other fleet. Oh, and I could use 8 wasps in my old megathron. Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
zoltar	Posted - 2008.04.05 21:09:00 - [60] I have been around for 5 years. When i started everyone was in frigates. Took around a month to get into a cruiser. Mining was everything and the best miner was the apoc. we got them asap, our first member got one after maybe 3 months. I was one of the first in a BS. I will miss that feeling of everyone going crazy with excitement just for seeing a BS when you warp to the station or undock. My first was the armageddon. I think this was the highlight of EVE for me. I had way too much fun. I sill wonder how much isk the guy that got that first miner II bpo made. he had the only tech 2 bpo in game for like 2 months if i remember right. they were selling for 20m a laser? and back then 20m was a months work.

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