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IceCream Man Aslord Corp	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:39:00 - [1] so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:42:00 - [2] Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. I liked Ulysses too. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Bellum Eternus	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:46:00 - [3] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. I liked Ulysses too. me2. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Erik Amirault	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:48:00 - [4] Nothing will be done you crybaby.
Dianeces	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:50:00 - [5] This is a very fantastic thread, with numerous well thought out points of concern around which we can base a discussion. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Silver Night	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:53:00 - [6] Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. Well... Because they are willing pay 200m + time and coordination to gank a BS in high sec? Sounds balanced to me. They pay a substantial amount to gank your BS. Perhaps the solution is to not fly around with enough mods that blowing 200mil and a good portion of time on killing you is worth it? As per your own post, a standard BS with a cheap fit is obviously effective. Especially, and I know this is a bit novel, if you bring a couple of friends with you on your missions. Now, I don't condone suicide ganking. But I don't condone whining either. -------------- GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2008.04.06 07:58:00 - [7] Ohhhh, IceCream Man thread. I'll take one chocolate yum-yum bar please. hands over 5M iskies
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:05:00 - [8] Originally by: Silver Night Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. Well... Because they are willing pay 200m + time and coordination to gank a BS in high sec? Sounds balanced to me. They pay a substantial amount to gank your BS. Perhaps the solution is to not fly around with enough mods that blowing 200mil and a good portion of time on killing you is worth it? As per your own post, a standard BS with a cheap fit is obviously effective. Especially, and I know this is a bit novel, if you bring a couple of friends with you on your missions. Now, I don't condone suicide ganking. But I don't condone whining either. You're condining suicide ganking, just admit it to yourself. How now are people supposed to move anything of value without being taken out? These forums are FUBAR, upgrade this decade!
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:09:00 - [9] tbh I could have gone through life without seeing this thread.
Silver Night Naqam	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Wendat Huron Edited by: Wendat Huron on 06/04/2008 08:05:56 Originally by: Silver Night Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. Well... Because they are willing pay 200m + time and coordination to gank a BS in high sec? Sounds balanced to me. They pay a substantial amount to gank your BS. Perhaps the solution is to not fly around with enough mods that blowing 200mil and a good portion of time on killing you is worth it? As per your own post, a standard BS with a cheap fit is obviously effective. Especially, and I know this is a bit novel, if you bring a couple of friends with you on your missions. Now, I don't condone suicide ganking. But I don't condone whining either. You're condoning suicide ganking, just admit it to yourself. How now are people supposed to move anything of value without being taken out? Well, perhaps I didn't word that correctly. I don't choose to engage in it myself, but I recognize it as a valid activity. Is that better? And it is simple, use a cov ops or interceptor. If you get ganked moving something valuable in one of those, you probably deserved it. Hell, with warp to 0, you can probably even use a fatter ship. It isn't that big a deal unless you are AFK. Tell you what: -Make a new character (Make sure it is Achura, trying to powergame 4tw). -Have him make a new corp. Get your friends to put their noob alts in the corp too. -Give it a stupid typical description (Honor and loyalty blah blah blah, friends having fun together blah blah blah) -Make sure everyone has either the NPC damage types or a wrecking hit on a Guristas mission cruiser in their bio -Break out the kessie bpo -Voila, you can move stuff with virtual impunity as long as you aren't afk (And the standard noob corp look gives you a touch of afk protection even) all for the low low cost of 55 million isk. 5 for the corp and kessies, 50m for my consultancy fee. -------------- GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
Riho	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:26:00 - [11] Edited by: Riho on 06/04/2008 08:26:14 Originally by: IceCream Man so pretty much you pay about 200mill (insurance + fitting) and you can gank any bs in high sec. wonder how is this balance. did he gank you in a mission or did he gank you afk at a gate ? if in a mission then it sucks balls :(... dont fit 10000000 billion in mods on single ship... if at a gate then your bloody fault you didnt have hardeners :P ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
Erotic Irony	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:32:00 - [12] Isn't this a rather gimpy tank? Maybe a damage control would have saved you. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Surfin's PlunderBunny	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:39:00 - [13] Wait, so 5 Ravens fitted for gank can beat your solo BS? O Rly? ------------------Sig-------------------------- Goons' greatest Pubbie!
MotherMoon	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:40:00 - [14] ok so I have a scitmtar with me, the ravens can't touch it plus I overheat my own tank. and the scimitar can overheat it's remote reps. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Daelorn	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:45:00 - [15] First of all what the hell is a TROP?! Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Dirk Magnum Spearhead Endeavors	Posted - 2008.04.06 08:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Daelorn First of all what the hell is a TROP?! Your mother. Alternate post: my mother.
Sharon Lynn Hedion University	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Wendat Huron How now are people supposed to move anything of value without being taken out? I've often moved billions worth of isk in 1 haul over 20 jumps and never got ganked. Use a transport ship and do not fly afk, noone will be able to gank you. But i do not use this character to move it
Mastin Dragonfly	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Erotic Irony Isn't this a rather gimpy tank? Maybe a damage control would have saved you. Aramachi... GTFO out of Mostu/Saila area. Wolves will flock to the highest concentrations of sheep~
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:22:00 - [19] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/04/2008 09:23:46 Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/04/2008 09:23:11 If you have a lootcan likely to drop more than a 300mil, then you are going to get ganked eventually if you become prdictable. AFK or not. Need to run lvl4's? Use fully t2 setups with no more than 4-6 navy items. Gist & Estamel fitted CNR for missions? You will get ganked eventually, mid mission or in gates. Its called adapt, because if you fly 4bil fitouts in a 450mil ship, expect 5-6 overheated rage torp ravens to gank you. Use fully t2 permatank fits insted. E.G Golem t2 permatank fit ( drop flux's if you dont need permatank afk lvl4 setup) H: 4 x Cruise, 3 x whatever M: X-Large Booster II, Amp II, 3 x Hardner II, 2 x Cap recharger II L: 2 x Bcu II, 2 x Flux II R: 2 x CCC II (T1's only if you have good cap skills/implants) Nightmare t2 permatank fit (drop flux if you dont need permatank) H: 4 x Tach II, rest whatever M: X-large Booster II, Amp II, 3 x Hardner II, 2 x Cap recharger II L: Heatsink II, 4 x Flux II R: 2 x CCC, 1 x CCC II Use your isk on implants insted of juicy loot. Do not complain because someone ganked a 4bil isk fitout on a 450mil ship. Heck, people will gank a 4bil loot on a freightor. Use t2 fitted setups if you do not like ganks. Spend your isk on damage implants and t2 rigs insted of droppable loot. -- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. Billion Isk Mission
Akita T	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:24:00 - [20] And people wonder why I urge everybody I know to move out of the Aramachi/Saila/Laah/Motsu "Doom Quadrilater"... ...seriously, what did you expect ? Fit so much expensive stuff on a ship, and it's BEGGING for a gank. Especially in a place filled with several people sporting similar fits, so there's plenty of wannabe gankers around. 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
SoftRevolution Complicity.	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:27:00 - [21] Is the OP really suggesting that it's imbalanced you go down like Paris Hilton in a 5-1 against gank fitted Battleships? EVE RELATED CONTENT
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:32:00 - [22] Originally by: SoftRevolution Is the OP really suggesting that it's imbalanced you go down like Paris Hilton in a 5-1 against gank fitted Battleships? Apparently 1\|2\|3\|4\|5.
Dianeces	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:43:00 - [23] Originally by: Akita T And people wonder why I urge everybody I know to move out of the Aramachi/Saila/Laah/Motsu "Doom Quadrilater"... ...seriously, what did you expect ? Fit so much expensive stuff on a ship, and it's BEGGING for a gank. Especially in a place filled with several people sporting similar fits, so there's plenty of wannabe gankers around. This is obviously nonsense. Anyone who tells you to deviate from your boring, predictable routine of grinding is is obviously trying to keep you from maximum profits. Also, all this talk of suicide ganking is really just hype to deflate the prices of high-end goods due to decreased demand. The best course of action is to keep on doing what you're doing currently, and to pimp out your ships now, especially with Gist Shield Boosters. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Jones Maloy	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:44:00 - [24] ok [warning: eft references] raven + full skills + 5x bcu + 6x t2 siege launchers loaded with rage torps = 1073 dps 1261 dps * 20 seconds concord takes to arrive < effective hp of battleship [/eft] how can 1 raven with overheated torps take out another bs again? Unofficial Official Jita Fubar Thread
Jones Maloy	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:46:00 - [25] you mean 5 ravens with overheated torps. not 5 overheated torps on a raven. yeah that will kill pretty much anything. Unofficial Official Jita Fubar Thread
Kaar	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:46:00 - [26] did anyone else search for this guys loss mail? --- Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. ---
Dianeces	Posted - 2008.04.06 09:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Kaar did anyone else search for this guys loss mail? Nightmare, Gist X XL, 2x DG Invuln, 3x DB Heat Sinks, 4x DB Tachs. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Riho	Posted - 2008.04.06 10:08:00 - [28] lol.. iread that one raven ganked hes ship... acctually 5 ravens ganked hes ship :P well doh.. if those ravens do over 5000 dps together your little crap tank will fold like paper. why did you fit such expencive fit on one ship ?? you dont need it. and today i saved one guy from makeing the same mistake whit hes CNR... made one of my friends sell half of hes loot on the CNR because he would have probably been next on the list of getting ganked :P ---------------------------------- MY VIEW ARE MY OWN, I DON'T REPRESENT MY CORPORATIONS VIEWS HERE... stop mailing me.. plz
Gamesguy	Posted - 2008.04.06 10:12:00 - [29] Edited by: Gamesguy on 06/04/2008 10:12:34 Instead of spending 2b on a gist x-type booster, why not just spend less than 2b on a HG crystal set + a cheap pith-c type booster worth only a couple hundred mil? You'd get the exact same results and you wont be ganked.
Garmon Genos Occidere Boner Bandits	Posted - 2008.04.06 11:30:00 - [30] Welcome to eve __________________________________ Garmonation - Rupture fun video

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