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dave1
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Posted - 2008.05.09 11:11:00 -
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hi if there are any GM watching can you please help me here during the last down time a GM took 300million from me and no one has givin me a explination...? iv had a petition oper for 3 days now and you have not answerd me id like a answer soon as i have worked hard for the isk and ships i have. i have never sold or brought any isk before thay can see this buy going throw my wallet and see that i have nor receved any isk form any other players so its pritty oviouse i have not brouight isk so why have you taken it...i want it back.
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Naridos
Caldari
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.05.10 01:11:00 -
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I have been meaning to read this blog for some time now and I havent read through any other posts or anything yet as I wanted to post this before my mind was filled with other thoughts on RMT.
Its great that you (CCP) have developed the Game Time Codes for making more ISK but the matter of the fact is, this is also becoming a problem from making isk as well. The prices are still constantly being driven down and the fact that you have to pay so much money for the ISK that you would be receiving is also a problem. How do you plan to fix it when it comes down to the point where people stop buying GTC's because they will only make a little ISK and start buying it from other websites and stuff? I mean, I have looked at other websites and the fact that others offer less money for ISK is still driving them to buy from these websites. So how are you to fix it? Is it possible to place a certain amount of ISK per Time Code? What is to be done about the macros that are still causing problems and driving down prices?
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Zetjur Jilnou
Rapid Deployment Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.10 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Naridos
I have been meaning to read this blog for some time now and I havent read through any other posts or anything yet as I wanted to post this before my mind was filled with other thoughts on RMT.
Its great that you (CCP) have developed the Game Time Codes for making more ISK but the matter of the fact is, this is also becoming a problem from making isk as well. The prices are still constantly being driven down and the fact that you have to pay so much money for the ISK that you would be receiving is also a problem. How do you plan to fix it when it comes down to the point where people stop buying GTC's because they will only make a little ISK and start buying it from other websites and stuff? I mean, I have looked at other websites and the fact that others offer less money for ISK is still driving them to buy from these websites. So how are you to fix it? Is it possible to place a certain amount of ISK per Time Code? What is to be done about the macros that are still causing problems and driving down prices?
I think the entire incentive of if you buy ISK from a website not only are you going to have it removed in the future leaving you in the negative, but you risk being banned, is a pretty good one to stop people. It won't stop everyone, however if people insist on buying so much ISK that time codes aren't viable, then they are idiots anyway.
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Astria Tiphareth
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.10 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Astria Tiphareth on 10/05/2008 09:20:31
9 pages all going to show that the PR exercise has failed again. Some posts are crying hypocrisy without reading the blog, some are touting the usual 'let me police it and make money and killmails, instead of banning' crap, and others are busy suggesting rootkits and IP banning, as though those have never been tried before...
Having trawled through all 9 pages, read the blog, read several economic analyses of ISK/Gold selling in MMOs, I can say the following:
- Well done CCP for attempting to do something about the spam, it really has gone down
- Well done CCP for attempting to deal with ISK trade, but you're onto a losing battle
- Well done CCP for having the ingenuity to come up with the GTC model
- Rather poorly done CCP on the marketing front, as every idiot out there is still peddling their own 'clue' about how it all really works and could be fixed
C'est la vie. People play a game for 4-5 years and suddenly think they own the place.
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Bentula
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Posted - 2008.05.13 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Astria Tiphareth
C'est la vie. People play a game for 4-5 years and suddenly think they own the place.
QFT. This is their game, their servers and their IP. And stop bringing up RL economy laws, for all purposes we might as well talk about monopoly money here, its not real get it? You pay to play the game, not to earn some fictional money for your old days.
If there really are people spending thousands of dollars for what is in effect play money, send them my way i have a nice bridge im looking to sell  .
P.S. People should be more worried about what our various governments do with our taxes, instead of the policy a game publisher follows regarding his play money.
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RUS RIDDIK
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Posted - 2008.07.09 05:41:00 -
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All should understand, that where it is possible to receive profit there there will be "clever men" which will realise it. That is even if CCP ban who sells those ISK, he will create 30 000 more different aliases, references and will receive all the same profit. And so will last infinitely. CCP it is necessary to understand, that eve has already quitted for sides - "simply games!" Some stay in it for 18 hours a day and for them eve it already a way of life. So why not to give these people to earn? For example: to create in eve bank to register or enter skills that it was possible to execute processes for sale ISK, and accordingly to limit those who is going to to buy ISK for real money. CCP it is necessary to switch on a brain and to take trade ISK under the control. CCP will receive from it percent. (What? Experts) let think.
One easy motion throws out from the market intermediaries and unscrpulous shopkeepers. It is necessary it is all to consider seriously to enter limitation for purchasing.
Here some speak, type game will lose sense - is not present will not lose! It will quit on newer level and will add a new trade. CCP it is necessary to think of this question. And after its careful analysis to give the chance to people to earn on those who wants that on them have earned. But I will recurring - it is necessary to consider well and probably to begin with easier to select from players - the best, to give the rights, and after the test already to finish and realise all. But limitations should be unconditionally. Bought ISK should not be passed, exchange on the goods and so on …
P.S. Sorry for bad English
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RUS RIDDIK
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Posted - 2008.07.09 05:56:00 -
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Cease to struggle with them, it is time to receive already benefit from it as, to you have thrown idea... 
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Riffler
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Posted - 2008.07.14 11:50:00 -
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CCP have made progress in combatting spam and sales, for which they deserves thanks - from everyone.
However, it doesn't look like they're close to really eliminating the problem, and I don't understand why not. It can't be that difficult to trace sold ISK back to it's source, to track down characters used to farm ISK and the means used to transfer it. However it's done, it can be traced if CCP want to. Banning the disposable characters and accounts involved in the sales side is no victory at all - it's the rather-less-easily-replaced characters and accounts that are generating the ISK for sale that should be the real targets.
After all, given how useless extra ISK is at the start of a character's career, and how likely (I hope) that titan-scale ISK buying will be caught, it's the generation of ISK for sale, whether by macro mining or complex farming that damages the average player more than the actual sale and purchase of ISK.
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC
G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.07.26 22:04:00 -
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ccp is doing nothing about this.....i report loads of isk farmers who sit there almost 24/7 just ratting away and instalogging when you hit local, and yet i still see absolutely 0 bans.....ccp, if this isnt the source of isk for the sellers, then what is????
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FDUSPYZOR
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.27 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: Delicious Thighs
Actually, I think by saying you can buy ISK but only from us (CCP GTC) is racketeering, no?
No. It's hypocritical.
CCP need to practice what they preach and stop the selling of GTCs for Isk.
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Vargrh
Gallente
Medo.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: FDUSPYZOR
Originally by: Delicious Thighs
Actually, I think by saying you can buy ISK but only from us (CCP GTC) is racketeering, no?
No. It's hypocritical.
CCP need to practice what they preach and stop the selling of GTCs for Isk.
It allows players who might not have access to rl funds to finance their game play therefore it increases the player base and is intrinsically a good thing. CCP get the same money regardless.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.28 18:49:00 -
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In other news, sniffing glue while designing games is also bad. Just look at CCP Nozh to see the results of what happens if you do that.
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Raagh Krgha
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Posted - 2008.07.31 06:55:00 -
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Edited by: Raagh Krgha on 31/07/2008 06:56:38
Edited by: Raagh Krgha on 31/07/2008 06:56:12
There are in fact some very simple mechanics to do some against isk sellers, because of this:
isk sellers need to tell people about their service and there is no better place than spamming within the game resulting in a large number of players blocking them immediatly whenever they spam their "gods" into channels, because they tend to produce macro spamming with a period of less than 10 seconds, rendering chat unreadable. 
So, when some large number of players block a single address, this would be the moment where it might become usefull to take a look what the massivly blocked player actually posts into channels ... does not seem to be much too dificult to implement into the game to have clients sending a block notify to a server that collects them only on count and on triggering a threshold value gives allert and a small chat log report to GM by email or anything. 
Well, I am just a simple minded person in real world, but in my eyes this seems to be some blacklist counting mechanic not too hard to implement after all ... solving the problem at it's very root, which is in fact not the generation of isk for sale but the advertisment that is neccessary to place generated isk on the "player market" ingame.
By that's just my 2 cents...
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Bak Vlok
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.08.17 13:51:00 -
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So what of the fact that a word filter for the chat is about 3 lines of python? The spammers can even advertise their URLs 
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Hew Jardon
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Posted - 2008.08.17 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: GM Krymus
I completely understand your concerns with regards to this. You may or may not have noticed the dramatic reduction in spam since the deployment of Trinity 1.1, in which a large number of features (as mentioned in the dev blog) were introduced. I agree that if any spam is able to get through (which, unfortunately, some still does) then there is room for improvement. Please be assured that we will continue to work on developing tools to prevent spam from reaching players.
I don't know how they did it, but in EQ2, they manage to redirect all spam to a spam channel. Perhaps you could look into this?
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Tehopenee
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Posted - 2008.08.25 22:53:00 -
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So buying isk with real money is bad? Fancy that---not being able to go after thieves is good. Makes me kind of wonder. I dont buy isk---I would consider it scamming but it cant be scaming as that is allowed in eve. I am getting terribly confused. I like the game but the inequitys favored by ccp really sucks sometimes. :)
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Tehopenee
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Posted - 2008.08.25 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Delicious Thighs
Actually, I think by saying you can buy ISK but only from us (CCP GTC) is racketeering, no?
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RaTTuS
BIG
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2008.08.29 10:31:00 -
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buying GTC for isk is not the same as ccp selling isk - this is because it is the players who provide the isk not ccp out of the magic hat
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Arachna
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Posted - 2008.09.02 18:03:00 -
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You see dozens of macro miners/missioners, if u report them u get no answer and you still see them flying around for years now.
And now you make dev blog how its all bad and stuff... yeah no shit ccp how about banning them???
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Magojiro Matsumoto
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Posted - 2008.09.02 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Magojiro Matsumoto on 02/09/2008 21:38:06
The problem is some people will still go on buying currency from ISK selers because they remain way cheaper than ETC system.
So even if there's a risk, some players would take it cheaper and get more via ISK sellers.
Example :
$34 = 400m ( about that on the ETC sale forum )
$33 = 1000m ( from some random ISK seller site I googled )
Pretty obvious to me why some guys may choose to get more than twice what you get from 1 ETC, even with the risk implied :/
I'm not asking CCP to align ISK sellers prices, even if it might actually drive them away once and for good if they see the rentabilitiy isn't good enough to keep up, but for sure it's not gonna be an easy battle.
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