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William Darkk
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:02:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Luh Windan
Its in the internet so it must be true....
or not
Please use your brains
Surprise! People on the internet worked up over nothing!
This thread is now about Disney.
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Jacob Mei
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:02:00 -
[32]
Orphan Works Act of 2006
I believe this is what the articles are sighting.
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Bob Pipe
Minmatar
Lyrix Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:15:00 -
[33]
Originally by: William Darkk
This thread is now about Disney.
I like aladdin and the lion king.
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Deaell Portt
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:27:00 -
[34]
Well, EU always show finger, so Eu citizens have no worries. Look at microsoft case in EU court , pgp algorithm , true crypt case,RIAA, Swedish law (piratebay site), software patents etc. etc. etc. Europe and others countries are not another USA state.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr
The Littlest Hobos
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:33:00 -
[35]
its called prio art and tell them to **** off
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Vlomini Drayk
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:40:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Vlomini Drayk on 13/04/2008 16:40:52
Thanks for listing the link to the bill. And the text of the Bill that pertains to it.
OH WAIT YOU DIDN'T. Why hallo thar chicken little.
Edit; Also has jack all to do with EVE
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.13 16:44:00 -
[37]
So this thread is about a not-even-a-bill-yet piece of proposed legislation in the US, an how it affects a company based in Iceland?
Really?
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Vincent S
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.04.13 17:05:00 -
[38]
Dear "Nova Fox",
I truly wish you would stop posting. Isn't there a furry convention you could to and yiff some other fursuiters or something?
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CCP Greyscale
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Posted - 2008.04.13 17:06:00 -
[39]
Originally by: William Darkk
Surprise! People on the internet worked up over nothing!
Unpossible!
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Zartach Tzarszh
Minmatar
The Royal Engineers
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Posted - 2008.04.13 17:42:00 -
[40]
Only in the Good ol' US of A :(
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jongalt
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Posted - 2008.04.13 18:42:00 -
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on march 13, 2008, the Judiciary Committee had a hearing about Orphan Works, which you can read here:http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=427
six people presented testimony.
a decision was deferred for another time.
its important because its about having the efficacy to sue for infringement in order to receive just compensation. the bill allows commercial interests to "use" intellectual property for commercial work without paying you for compensation because "they couldnt find a way to contact you".
its only really important if your "artwork" is of high enough quality that a commercial interest would want to use it in the first place.
as with everything, 99% of the art being produced today is crap anyway. and yah, that includes deviant art stuff...
-jg.
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Slez
Caldari
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:20:00 -
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Cissnei
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Posted - 2008.04.13 19:32:00 -
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this bill came about more due to the proliferation of digital photography. many companies wantn to use all the images floating around the web for their own commercial ends, and for some reason feel taht they shoudnt have to pay or deal with copyrights - even though most digital photographers are completely clueless as to the law in this respect
gottalove being a US citizen. they are even trying to tax our internet now. did you know that? the telecomm companies have a bill in congress that would allow them to charge a premium to isp's for access to specific parts of the internet, and if they dont pay you either have no access or it's butt-slow. for example: at&t, the largest owner of telecomm lines in the US, wants google to pay a stipend every month. google flips the virtual finger. at&t limits everyone's access to google.
second example: your isp is a tiny one and cant afford all of at&t's fees. voila - a good portion of your web surfing options have just been completely eliminated
bills like this need to go on the ballot
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 07:36:00 -
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give me a moment posting the 2006 bill up the 2008 bill isnt drafted yet but on march 13 2008 the subject was brought back to the spotlight.
Ill also give an example how its possible to steal someones artwork under this system soon as I find the picture in eve files.
and no i havent fully researched the subject I dont got 300 pages worth of ink to print out and go over with it with my military provided and free lawyer to help me understand the more nitty gritty limbo.
(final note public wifi sucks for research)
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 08:10:00 -
[45]
okay updated the OP on how the 2008 system is broken.
the 2008 edition isnt drafted yet but its being written and should be ready for reading this summer worst part is the chairman of the US copyright legislatino is to step down soon the same guy that shot down the 2006 and is an avid opponent of this bill.
The guy to replace him isnt very friendly on individual rights and has been proven to be highly convinced with some lobbying.
The lobbyist that want this law passed are folks who want to use artwork without paying the artist a certain sum for using thier work but instead circumvent that process.
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Alyth
Gallente
Corp 1 Allstars
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.14 09:00:00 -
[46]
Oh well. Even if the thief is in the states, he can't claim innocence on account of the big 'anything to do with EVE, CCP or anything else we can think of will be handled by the Reykjavic District Court' meaning Icelandic law will be applicable and sod the new bill 
I love Violet! It is the prettiest color in the whole wide world!!!
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 09:07:00 -
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Im quite sure not every artist in the world could afford sue someone out of the states either.
The point is what if the examle work I used for an example was just a joe smoe like myself just having fun with fan art, then some game company decides to liberate my artwork for the imaginary orphanage and they dont nessicarly have to sue ccp or anyone once they obtain the artwork, all they can do once they do obtain it is make $$$ off of it without paying the original artist.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Crystal Ship
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Posted - 2008.04.14 09:19:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 14/04/2008 09:19:46
Now, my Legalese isn't the best, I admit, but wouldn't this scenario go something like this?
1. Random Bloke registers CCP artwork as being his own, tries to sue CCP for Infringement of Copyright and for Royalties.
2. CCP point out that they've been using the image in the Public Domain as part of their Intellectual Property (EVE-Online) for the last 5 Years.
3. Judge notes that Random Bloke only registered the Artwork within the last month, throws out the case.
4. CCP countersues, Random Bloke is now also facing Criminal Charges for Attempted Fraud.
Overall, not a smart Idea to try to pull this one off.
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Delichon
The First Foundation
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2008.04.14 09:49:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Gabriel Darkefyre
4. CCP countersues, Random Bloke is now also facing Criminal Charges for Attempted Fraud.
Search agents are already looking for Random Bloke.
He's gone get so-o-o-o-o podded soon!
Trying to steal CCP's artwork, was he!
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Dorisane
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Posted - 2008.04.14 10:22:00 -
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world != usa.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 11:13:00 -
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US lawmakers and lobbist dont care for the world or the cries from the international copyright office that this is wrong.
Hopefully flooding senators office full of faxes protesting this is one of the few things US citizens can do.
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Reacz
Caldari
Empirius Enigmus Navy
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.14 11:29:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Reacz on 14/04/2008 11:33:10
Interesting and indeed disturbing but that Chinese guy - V for Vengance made me laugh.
'Burdens of the white man' indeed.
But yeah, bad news for the artists amoungst us.
It would be sad to see this happen as it is much like what is currently happening in the computing industry with programming code (both high and low level).
Unfortunatly other peoples work is stolen all the time and not attributed to its owners; big companies do this quite often, being a programmer myself and knowing people whose work has been pilfered I sympathise with your plight.
Good luck!
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Mauy Thai
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Posted - 2008.04.14 11:35:00 -
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Its unlikely that all you have to do is grab some random guy on the street and ask who owns the artwork.
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.14 11:54:00 -
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Yay for finding ways to raise tax money and increase government without actually being useful in any way?
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.14 12:06:00 -
[55]
Edited by: baltec1 on 14/04/2008 12:08:32
guys this kind of thing already happens.
Vanilla ice with Ice Ice Baby
Queen's Under pressure
Naturaly Vanilla ice says he didnt copy the greatness that is queen and in the process destroy a song by one of the best bands to ever walk this earth...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.14 12:20:00 -
[56]
This does not apply to the rest of the world as the US is still part of the Berne Convention?
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2008.04.14 12:50:00 -
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I ask everyone to read the actual proposed amendment "to title 17 to provide for limitation of remedies in cases in which the copyright owner cannot be located, and for other purposes." (HR5439)
Only thing that should perk ears is what constitutes as reasonable. Gotta go but I'd love to type up a huge post of rabble rabble for spaceship pilots... |
Poreuomai
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:24:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Luh Windan
Its in the internet so it must be true....
or not
Please use your brains
That link is also on the internet! THAT couldn't possibly be wrong, could it?
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Nova Fox
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:46:00 -
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That was the current chairman's main reason for shooting down the 2006 bill because there was no definitnion of a search for the unknown artist, simply put just emailing the server owner could have been considered enough or even worse just a googling the artwork.
Well the thing is this years purposed bill doesnt exist yet, we do know its comming and its going to try to do the same thing the 2006 one is, there are already groups of photographers and illustrators already preparing teams of lawyers to goto washington to try to convince not to pass the law in its current form which last the community was told was looking more liniant and looped holed than the 2006 version, there are actually 2 documents in works ones that cover digital media such as videos animations and music then there one covering artwork on websites such as the one i made an example for.
Now how is this going to take effect internationally is going to be in the air it doesnt mention the interactions between the two copyright laws, which is why the international copyright is fighting this document as well because they know it will cause massive amounts of legal trouble they cannot afford to put up with.
Im not a laywer but this will become a hassle to legetimate artist that are hard to reach.
The registering the artwork part was also a pos idea that isnt going to work and degrades the current copyright system currenly in use.
Now the other question if it would effect trademarks which is the service you have to pay in order to keep rights to Intellectal Properties such as characters.
All in all its more hoplah that professional and past-time artist dont need to have happen to them.
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True 1
Caldari
Black Podding
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Posted - 2008.04.14 13:52:00 -
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"Furthermore, as we've discussed above, a work need not be registered with the Copyright Office, or with a private registrar, to be covered by copyright, so if someone infringes on your work and you send them a takedown notice, the work is not orphaned. Full stop. I cannot repeat this enough times. "
No Fear. you can get your Art back eh 
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