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Nuyan Zahedi
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:25:00 -
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Surprised there was no topic about this already (unless I'm blind and missed it somewhere), but according to Warcry it seems the new expansion title will be "The Empyrean Age", just like the novel of Tony Gonzalez. It'll include Factional Warfare and some massive story-changes based on the new novel (and I'm sure most of the news-articles are connected to it as well)
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it. Novel is supposedly out in June, so I'd expect the expansion at least before August. (And an interview on rockpapershotgun.com a while ago said "June")
"With five years under their belt, most MMOs would be getting into old age. Not EVE, they still have aggressive plans to grow their game. This summer, they plan to launch yet another free expansion and that's where the aforementioned scoop comes in.
The title of the next expansion - revealed here for the first time - will be "The Empyrean Age," the same as the EVE novel by Tony Gonzalez also slated for the summer. The reason is simple, this is the first EVE Online expansion where the story of the game and its universe will play a key role, a lot of it based off the novel. image
"The universe of Eve has always had this fragile peace between the races and now that's going to end," Massey said. This means war and that is the core new feature: factional warfare. "People can actually take an active role and choose sides for who they want to fight for and who they want to fight against."
More details on this expansion are going to trickle out over the coming months, but it marks - at long wait - the culmination of the plan that was once upon a time called Kali and has now turned into not one, but four epic expansions: Revelations I, Revelations II, Trinity and now The Empyrean Age." |

Hana Lena
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:36:00 -
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Hmmmm Interesting...
They have been working tworads the big fight for a long time now and its been clear that the mounting tensions between the empires have begun to strain the ever so fragile peace that we all have now it will be simple fascinating to see if this is true and where it leads. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ADHD + Dyslexia = BAD SPELLING Proud to be in the FNA (for over a year) and not be a alt!
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jam6549
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:43:00 -
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******* awesome! glad immersion is actually coming into an expansion for once!
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Lord Haur
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.17 17:51:00 -
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Sounds like the ore the factions get from the "bring me xxxx Veldspar/Omber etc." storyline missions is being put to good use 
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.04.17 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Haur Sounds like the ore the factions get from the "bring me xxxx Veldspar/Omber etc." storyline missions is being put to good use 
Yeah, now your hauler full of Veldspar can get jumped by players who've sided with opposing forces.
I can't wait. :D
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Falcon Troy
Caldari Awesome People Secret Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.17 18:43:00 -
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So does this mean that there will be hundreds of people with free killrights on you? Sounds...fun. |

Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.04.17 18:51:00 -
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Followed closely after by The Hemipteran Age? |

Fader Bane
Black Knight Buccaneers Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.17 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Falcon Troy So does this mean that there will be hundreds of people with free killrights on you? Sounds...fun.
sounds great to me but they will probably have it where you have to flag yourself for faction pvp by declaring allegiance to a side. |

DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:08:00 -
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What a horrible pun, I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at the ironies. :[ _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |

Darius Brinn
Gallente Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.17 19:16:00 -
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Well, we'll see. This could bring interesting dilemmas. I am currently in Amarr space for social reasons, but I would actually love to support the Gallente. I wonder how will they implement it. Will you have to move to your faction's turf? Will it kill the standings towards the Empire I want to work for, etc. http://www.geocities.com/vagrantweapons/db.jpg |

Slade Trillgon
Siorai Iontach Brotherhood of the Spider
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Brinn Well, we'll see. This could bring interesting dilemmas. I am currently in Amarr space for social reasons, but I would actually love to support the Gallente. I wonder how will they implement it. Will you have to move to your faction's turf? Will it kill the standings towards the Empire I want to work for, etc.
Yeah there was some very interesting discussion in the game develoment forum a few months back. Multiracial and non-Rping corps are either not going to participate or individuals the do participate in it may have to go towards their supportive faction. At least the way I have seen it since I heard of the developments shortly after I started playing. I will have to make a similar decision since I would support my fellow brothers if and when I participate.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:50:00 -
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I just pray that they implement factional warfare in such a way as to make it fun and challenging (even for the underdog). I'm concerned that it will just end up as a means to legalize empire piracy by one faction's supporters against the opposing faction's supporters.
I also hope they redine the factions a bit, though with recent news reports, that looks likely.
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Illwill Bill
Boennerup Banden Boner Bandits
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Posted - 2008.04.17 20:54:00 -
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Well, Becq, look at it this way: Empire piracy would kill off the lag in Jita and Rens in a matter of days! :) |

Johli
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:00:00 -
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Edited by: Johli on 17/04/2008 21:02:25 Book synopsis from Amazon.com... Amazon.co.uk
Quote: These are times that will test the bounds of the human spirit. A clone with no name or past awakens to a cruel existence, hunted mercilessly for crimes he may never know; yet he stands close to the pinnacle of power in New Eden. A disgraced ambassador is confronted by a mysterious woman who knows everything about him, and of the sinister plot against his government; his actions will one day unleash the vengeful wrath of an entire civilization. And among the downtrodden masses of a corporation-owned world, a man named Tibus Heth is about to launch a revolution that will change the course of history The confluence of these dark events will lead humanity towards a tragic destiny. The transcendence of man to the dream of immortality has bred a quest for power like none before it; empires spanning across thousands of stars will clash in the depths of space and on the worlds within. Those who stand before the tides of war, willingly or not, must face the fundamental choices that have been with man for tens of thousands of years, unchanged since the memory of Earth was lost. This is EVE, The Empyrean Age. A test of our convictions and the will to survive.
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Illwill Bill
Boennerup Banden Boner Bandits
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:18:00 -
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/me pre-orders
When it comes to the expansion, I've looked forward to factional warfare. I am hoping that CONCORD will be split up, so that the security status system will work in a way more similar to Frontier, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a filthy pirate; I really think the current security status system makes a difference at all, as people like me will only use a frekkin' alt to haul things.
A change in the sec status system may very well give low sec the boost that so many have asked for. ____________________ Honk if you think that I'm a n00b |

Red Crown
Kudzu Collective Notoriety Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:45:00 -
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Article is clearly fake. Proof:
Quote: This summer, they plan to launch
There's no way thats happening...
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Surprised that CCP itself hasn't announced this. Summer is only just around the corner. |

Gone'Postal
Minmatar Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.04.17 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Red Crown
Article is clearly fake. Proof:
Quote: This summer, they plan to launch
There's no way thats happening...
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Surprised that CCP itself hasn't announced this. Summer is only just around the corner.
I can't see it being this summer either tbh, Prove me wrong CCP |

Ikserak tai
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:23:00 -
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How this whole scenario will affect the Eve economy makes my brain hurt.
You start to restrict travel and trade crashes to a halt. With trading hubs being intricately interconnected, (regardless of which faction's space it is in) unraveling all of this spells economic chaos.
Will the Isk continue to reign as the currency of the Universe? Maybe not if economies suddenly become regional or smaller.
I really question the veracity of this story, the implications are somewhat dire if it is indeed true...
YOU'VE NEVER ROCKED 'TIL YOU'VE UNDOCKED. |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.17 22:36:00 -
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If the 4 Empires go to war, I'd really love to see a bit of Sec change on the borders. Just have a thin border-land of 3 or more jumps between each of the 4 empires that is low sec. After all, the empires certainly wouldn't be cooperating on law enforcement between blowing each other up, would they?
It'd do wonders for the New Eden economy. You'd see Jita's "super-hub" status start to diminish, and some local hubs spring up in the other 3 empires, seeing as people wouldn't necessarily wish to risk the trip too often. For the first time in EVE's entire history, you'd have proper inter-regional trading. For the first time ever, New Eden might be realistically divided in to 4 separate economies, instead of just one big one. Proper, normal low-sec pirating might become a popular profession again (with suicide ganking becoming less popular) and you'd be giving normal people a need to use low sec for something...
It'd be glorious.
Doubt it'll happen, but a man can dream  ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways.
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Anubis Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2008.04.17 23:01:00 -
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Warp to Zero will be a problem.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Join Vertigo One Now
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Hana Lena
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.17 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ikserak tai How this whole scenario will affect the Eve economy makes my brain hurt.
You start to restrict travel and trade crashes to a halt. With trading hubs being intricately interconnected, (regardless of which faction's space it is in) unraveling all of this spells economic chaos.
Will the Isk continue to reign as the currency of the Universe? Maybe not if economies suddenly become regional or smaller.
I really question the veracity of this story, the implications are somewhat dire if it is indeed true...
The thing is you play a pod pilot you payed the goverment run skools to get an educacation/inplants as sutch then after "pod skool" you are a free man to do as you please a civi maby a civi with a gun but still as a pod pilot your nutreal to all 4 empiers you can befrend them but you can't be "part" of them at lest not with the curent system so long as your not "part" of an empire you can do as you plese it all comes down to a choice that YOU the player make as to what your going to do in the vastness of the Verss. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ADHD + Dyslexia = BAD SPELLING Proud to be in the FNA (for over a year) and not be a alt!
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Nuyan Zahedi
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:57:00 -
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Last dev-blog seemed to be about dynamic warfare systems with procedures for adding new stations. It seems CCP is quite ambitious with this and I'm curious about what they'll come up with.
They could keep it simple as well. Give people a way to align themself to a faction, let the people that are aligned to an enemy faction appear as war-targets and you'll automatically have much more Empire warfare that goes further than the current war-dec system. Looking at the success of RedvsBlue and Privateers you'll there's more than enough interest for that. But it'd be cool if the actual borders and stations change dynamically of course.
Personally I hope it'll have some influence on the economies as well. Currently you can travel between all the Empires through high-sec and I'd love to see that becoming impossible.
There's also a little hint in the mail the people that ordered the Eve Stragetic Maps received. |

Gul Amarr
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Posted - 2008.04.19 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Gul Amarr on 19/04/2008 11:32:08 I'm really looking forward to this, assuming it's not mandatory to take part but on a voluntary basis like joining a factions navy. Nice way to get involved in some pvp for new players like me willing to roleplay a bit.
Still wondering how it will be done though - given the current player distribution, Caldari may pretty easily outnumber anyone else - plus I wonder if all factions will be at war with each other or if it's e.g Gallente and Minies against Amarr and Caldari...
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Lucia Warbler
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.04.19 12:05:00 -
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Faction warfare = PvP arena of the high sector?
I hope we are still able to travel without using alts. 
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Gorjer
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 12:34:00 -
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Well im not sure how they are going to implement this, but heres my guess .. :P
Example:-
You are an Ammarian roleplayer, you have just killed a scumabag Mimmatarrian roleplayer! Heres the good bit, (Message receieved from ****** of high-command)
'Thanks Gorjy, great job on killing ****** his been a pain in the backside for us for a while now. As a token of our appreciation you will receive 30,000 loyalty points for you pleasure. Thanks again, now go get some more!'
Additional you will receieve x.xx% raise in loyalty points, Fantastic! Finally a way to reap the benefits of missioning...... by PVPing! whilst in high-sec ...ooooo makes you quiver dont it!
Gorjy |

Juwi Kotch
Gallente VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.04.19 12:42:00 -
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I'm really curious how this factional warfare will be implemented. I only hope that this will not be the end of mixed-racial corporations. That would turn the present Alliance and corporation landscape upside down...
Additionally, I think there is more to this expansion besides "just" factional warfare, what everybody already knows who have pre-ordered a copy of Serenity Steel's 2D-maps. If that isn't an hoax, they've got this email last night:
Quote: Thanks for ordering EVE Strategic Maps, which we were expecting to begin shipping within the next 10 days.
However, we have just returned from CCPÆs Iceland HQ where we discussed some exciting new content which will slightly delay the shipping of EVE Strategic Maps, but will in fact put you well ahead of the rest of the player base.
Why? There is, as you may know already, an expansion coming in a few months, which will introduce completely new content to the world of EVE. So although your copy of ESM will arrive a couple of weeks later than planned, it will now contain advance information, allowing you totake advantage of the knowledge of this new content before anyone else. CCP has agreed to exclusively reveal this data to us now, wellin advance of it ægoing liveÆ, in order that we can ensure the first run of EVE Strategic Maps includes the most accurate information possible.
As you read this, Serenity Steele is busy exploring this new content in his Polaris Frigate, plotting the data and mapping every system,planet, moon, asteroid field, ice field and jump gate. With EVE Strategic Maps on your desk, you can be ready to take control. We will email you again to let you know when your copy of ESM is on the way, but for now thanks for your patience. We promise you will not be is appointed.
Regards The E-ON / ESM team
Let the speculations roam...
Juwi Kotch
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J Valkor
Invicta.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 15:53:00 -
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If factional warfare is much more rewarding than pure mission running it will put pure care bears behind the curves and make mission macros inefficient for farming isk.
So I approve.
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GarbleGarble
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Posted - 2008.04.19 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Illwill Bill /me pre-orders
Expansions are free and you don't have to order them you boobie
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Illwill Bill
Boennerup Banden
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Posted - 2008.04.19 17:20:00 -
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I was talking about the book! ;) ____________________ Honk if you think that I'm a n00b |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.19 23:50:00 -
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ORE SUPPORTERS SHOW YOUR STANCE!
Secure 3rd party service ■ Do you Veldspar? |
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TheCleric
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Posted - 2008.04.20 01:12:00 -
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The Empyrean Age ,factional warfare, this sounds awsome, i hope it will be war between gallente and caldari, and we will see huge gangs with only gallente ships fighting caldari gangs.
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Illwill Bill
Boennerup Banden
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Posted - 2008.04.20 01:17:00 -
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Chribba: Let's hope CCP took some inspiration from the mining lasers of Frontier. ^^ ____________________ Honk if you think that I'm a n00b Lance fighter > Honk. |

Sgt Napalm
Synergy Evolved Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.04.20 02:25:00 -
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Cool beans. Wish there was a proper dev blog about it
*pokes wrangler*
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Avalira
Caldari Pax Minor Expiscor Pario Addo
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Posted - 2008.04.20 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86 If the 4 Empires go to war, I'd really love to see a bit of Sec change on the borders. Just have a thin border-land of 3 or more jumps between each of the 4 empires that is low sec. After all, the empires certainly wouldn't be cooperating on law enforcement between blowing each other up, would they?
It'd do wonders for the New Eden economy. You'd see Jita's "super-hub" status start to diminish, and some local hubs spring up in the other 3 empires, seeing as people wouldn't necessarily wish to risk the trip too often. For the first time in EVE's entire history, you'd have proper inter-regional trading. For the first time ever, New Eden might be realistically divided in to 4 separate economies, instead of just one big one. Proper, normal low-sec pirating might become a popular profession again (with suicide ganking becoming less popular) and you'd be giving normal people a need to use low sec for something...
It'd be glorious.
Doubt it'll happen, but a man can dream 
That would be absolutely awesome, and I think it will help the game more than anything.
Selling the following: Probe BPC's ARK JF Silicon Diborite
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.20 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: TheCleric The Empyrean Age ,factional warfare, this sounds awsome, i hope it will be war between gallente and caldari, and we will see huge gangs with only gallente ships fighting caldari gangs.
Cruisers at 10 paces?
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Sargeant HAmmer
Caldari Hammers Academy
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Posted - 2008.04.29 11:53:00 -
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i suppose i should comment.
factional warfare.
i can see its advantages and i can also see a new start to massive fluctuations in prices.
I hope some of us who log on for an hour or 2 a night just to blow up stuff in a mission or 2 still can. After all there are alot of mission runners in eve. (check the arbalest price for siege launchers, used to be 6 mil pre revelations).
I can half see it happening this summer, partly because we have only had a couple of minor patches since january, and 1 intermediate sized patch. There are enough bugs to fill a dustcart so lets hope they fix them and not bring back all the old bugs (again).
lets see a dev blog ccp regarding this latest patch. any new ships? new models? color schemes? station types? new systems? different jumps? removal of globally bookmarked ore fields? new types of items?
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Robert VonBraun
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Posted - 2008.05.12 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: Robert VonBraun on 12/05/2008 20:29:55 Linkage to a good article about it. Linkage They shouldnt have much difficulty implementing this expansion since it doesnt involve actual game mechanics. Mostly Mission stuff, and a few options as far as Flagging yourself for war.
I dont think it will matter what Race your Char is for this, You just have to pick a side, have no clue wether or not we will have the option to switch factions we choose to fight for. To say the least it should be interesting to see how it effects Empire. LoL could see people polarizing to the outside corners of empire to stay away from rival faction's space, but who knows until CCP quits with the silence on this subject. 
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Niko medes
Gallente bad production llc
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Posted - 2008.05.13 01:09:00 -
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cant wait for the novel, but im abit worried bout the new expansion. abit unclear tbh. --------------------------------------
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Callthetruth
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.13 02:33:00 -
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on this one CCP are likley to be as silent as mules. The dev chats and promo usually start about 6 weeks before deployment which means end of June for this patch id say
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2008.05.13 07:48:00 -
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A lot of good ideas in here, many of which have been said before, often by myself.
But at this point, screw it, I just want to see a lot of people die, and a lot of things blow up.
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Wallimiyama
Minmatar The Graduates
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Posted - 2008.05.13 16:31:00 -
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Burn the land and boil the sea...you can't take the sky away from me.
I think it would be great if you could permanently flag a ship (vs. a character) for factional warfare. Similar to a rig, it sends an IFF signal and cannot be removed. That way a character can fight for the faction in a given ship, and his hauler would remain neutral... That way, you could also fight for more than one faction if the mood suits you. Play every side for what it's worth.
...Just a semi-random thought.
-Are we havin' fun yet? |

IVeige
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Posted - 2008.05.13 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba ORE SUPPORTERS SHOW YOUR STANCE!
i endorse this service / product .
mining velspar since 1889
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:10:00 -
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i really hope this expansion is all about me.
You're doing it wrong. |

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution Ministry of Information
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:33:00 -
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It's real and not SoonÖ, as the content changes are already in the EVE Strategic Map Book 
 ≡v≡ Strategic Maps now in Eve-Online Store |

Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:34:00 -
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Edited by: Shionoya Risa on 13/05/2008 18:34:32
Originally by: Serenity Steele It's real and not SoonÖ, as the content changes are already in the EVE Strategic Map Book 
And in my sig. 
Disclaimer: The Splash screen may or may not actually be 'content' -----
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Soder Jucio
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:37:00 -
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sweet. Its like privateers/red vs blue all rolled into one.
I really really really hope the fighting will be allowed in high sec as well as low because the prospect of somewhere where no one can hotdrop 50 cap ships on me is looking more and more appealing.
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Niko medes
Gallente T.E.C. Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:39:00 -
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thats that sig that dood made that was real good wasnt it. lol.. i cant remember the name of the wallpaper... --------------------------------------
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Shionoya Risa
The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services
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Posted - 2008.05.13 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Shionoya Risa on 13/05/2008 18:43:39
Originally by: Niko medes thats that sig that dood made that was real good wasnt it. lol.. i cant remember the name of the wallpaper...
No. The scene is a recreation of the Revelations II trailer. Teh Splash!
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.05.13 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chribba ORE SUPPORTERS SHOW YOUR STANCE!
o/ minemine /veld\ /| -=-=-=-=-=-=-|####| {$} /\ minemine \spar/
//// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad)
"Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand |

Refractor
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Posted - 2008.05.13 19:13:00 -
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I think it will be like that:
1. you can sign up for FW if you have enough standing with that faction. No matter what race you are, or what ship you fly, or in wich corporation you are currently.
2. if you sign up, you will be "flagged" and showed in enemy overview, so you can attack any ship of opposed faction (only those who flagged for FW) and them can attack you too. I hope that attacking your faction teammates will result in criminal flagging and concord intervention.
3. You will get nothing (neither standings nor isk) for killing other players (because of possible alt\friend-killing for reward = FARM). But changing side will reduse your standing.
4. You will get money and standing for special FW missions, where you need to kill some npc and maybe some structures.. but opposing faction can kill you (maybe receive some notification of your actions).
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Varsorise
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Posted - 2008.05.27 03:02:00 -
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ORE FTW  
You cant war with out us
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