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Seras Victoria Egivand
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.07.17 02:35:00 -
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Tarn Kugisa wrote:If EVE had a Linux Client, I would drop windows save for the occasional Steam Game
steam is comeing to linux lol..
But back on topic.
Eve client nativly sure id love to see it.. No offence Even getting perfect functions though wine still doubles the overhead for a linux machine because of the Direct x function calls that need to be translated to linux function calls. A native client would reduce a ton of system overhead thats being caused because it does have to be interpreted though the wine api layer.
TBH Theres way more linux users now then there was a few years ago. IT would be nice if developers would actually start to support more multi platform enviorments then a single environment. I ran windows for years tinkered with linux Now i run linux exclusively.
The issue isnt so much can ccp do it ya they can do it. Is it frantically viable for them? Without true numbers idk. Even blizzard atm is starting to look more at LInux native clients for future games. The biggest hurtle would be to make the client api Indepenant vs api depenant. Heck even if they just back ported OpenGL as a option in the system would decrease the amount of overhead needed. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.07.17 18:51:00 -
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http://www.reghardware.com/2012/07/17/valve_to_usher_steam_upon_ubuntu/
bit more ammo :) |
Seras Victoria Egivand
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.07.17 19:49:00 -
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:http://www.reghardware.com/2012/07/17/valve_to_usher_steam_upon_ubuntu/
bit more ammo :)
god a perfect would would be eve native client
Tf2 linux edition
Portal 1 and 2 linux lol...
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Melke
Black Hole Drifters
The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:21:00 -
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It would be more likely to see Dust 514 come to PC, Mac and Linux since it was developed on Unreal Engine 3 using OpenGL before we saw a native Eve Online client. That said, I'm not sure if UE3 supports native linux either. UT3 doesn't have a native clent.
Just testing Eve with Wine would be enough. It runs well enough save for CQ and https with the IGB. For now, I just created 2 shortcuts on my desktop. 1 for the launcher to check updates and the other to actually play. |
Seras Victoria Egivand
Southern Cross Empire
Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.07.19 21:52:00 -
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Melke wrote:It would be more likely to see Dust 514 come to PC, Mac and Linux since it was developed on Unreal Engine 3 using OpenGL before we saw a native Eve Online client. That said, I'm not sure if UE3 supports native linux either. UT3 doesn't have a native clent.
Just testing Eve with Wine would be enough. It runs well enough save for CQ and https with the IGB. For now, I just created 2 shortcuts on my desktop. 1 for the launcher to check updates and the other to actually play.
why just settle for a wine driviitive?
yes it works on wine but the whole point of it would be to get them to actually do something for the linux users. Gtranted they do test and make it compatable with wine... But also in the same token We are paying customers to. Im not bashing them Just would like to see nix users not be treated like the step child that has to use a crutch to do something. |
Katrina Bekers
Rim Collection RC
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.07.20 12:35:00 -
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Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:why just settle for a wine driviitive?
Because it makes sense, from a business viewpoint (at least, at the moment).
We're not treated like stepchildren. It's unfair to blame the devs if we use our own liberty in an often-backfiring way.
We're being offered a product, and we're free to buy it and use it according to its intended specifications.
We buy it, and then use it in a totally unintended way. Why should the blame be on CCP?
Honestly, I wouldn't complain. Each and every linux user is well aware that he/she's running the client outside supported specs. I don't feel the same entitlement as Seras. I'm free to use it under Windows and receive the support they're packaging with the product. Or I can use it under linux and give up the support. I'm very glad I still have this choice.
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Melke
Black Hole Drifters
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Posted - 2012.07.20 15:17:00 -
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Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:We are paying customers to.
Yes, we are but, when they stopped supporting the linux client it was less than 5% of the population. Partly due to the linux client being a huge pile and not brought up to premium graphics so we went back to wine. That was a few years ago but, why would they rewrite their entire graphics engine for less than 5%? The money doesn't add up. Would it allow native Mac and Linux users to have a more even experience with windows? Heck yeah it would but, unless that population is 30% or more I wouldn't even have it on the table if I were Hilmar.
Do another wrapper like they have on Mac if they have to.
It's becoming easier for it to work in wine out of the box so I'm patient enough to wait. There are devs who read this forum and help when they can with getting it easier to play. |
Allan Scott
Knights of the Order
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Posted - 2012.07.21 00:10:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:Better if they just treat current Wine releases as a proper version of Windows to support.
I second this vote. It works fine, for a while, then they do something that breaks it. After a week or two someone finally finds a workaround, and it goes back to working fine till the next time CCP gets an itch and scratches it by screwing up wine compatibility. |
Marcus Barrick
Union of Protectorates
UNITED STAR FEDERATION
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Posted - 2012.07.21 01:08:00 -
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Katrina Bekers wrote:Seras Victoria Egivand wrote:why just settle for a wine driviitive? Because it makes sense, from a business viewpoint (at least, at the moment). We're not treated like stepchildren. It's unfair to blame the devs if we use our own liberty in an often-backfiring way. We're being offered a product, and we're free to buy it and use it according to its intended specifications. We buy it, and then use it in a totally unintended way. Why should the blame be on CCP? Honestly, I wouldn't complain. Each and every linux user is well aware that he/she's running the client outside supported specs. I don't feel the same entitlement as Seras. I'm free to use it under Windows and receive the support they're packaging with the product. Or I can use it under linux and give up the support. I'm very glad I still have this choice.
I think they didn't mean How it sounded. I think they were Just trying to get CCP to understand that theres more linux users now. Which would make sence. Anyways i dont think the Post was intended as Linux users by CCP is being treated like stepchildren i think when it comes to the linux community as a whole. Thats Just my assumption.
As far as a Native linux client goes... Yes I would love to see one will it happen? I cant say yes 100 percent or no it will never happen. Theres quite a few things in The pipe for the mighty pengun so Who knows.
We got Steam coming to linux
You got The steam client games comeing to linux
More and more developers and Indy developers are supporting more and more Multi platform environments.
You got The Mesa/ Gellium 3d Team being able to implement Direct X into Linux naively and having it be able to run DX applications.
You got the Steam os Down the pipe.
You got the abomination that is windows 8 Coming out Yes i say abomination because it sucks as a desktop os.
(why is this important. ) Because theres a ton of win XP users that are about ready to Have to eather A jump to windows 7 or Windows 8 Or GO Linux if they want to update there OS.
Alot of people are just tired of shelling out 200-300+ dollers for a os that gets outdated and forced to upgrade for some few extra features. Those people are prime linux Targets and MS Mac And Linux know this.
All in all Would i like to see a native Client yes.
Am i happy with the way wine is with it atm Sure it doesn't hurt it.
Will i be mad if i never see one no so long as it remains wine compatible . |
Morpheus Mishima
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2012.07.28 09:24:00 -
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Both Valve and Blizzard are now looking into porting all of their products to linux, why? Because of Win8 and MS Store.
IF this happens It wouldn't be that difficult to imagine that even EA games would start to look at moving over NEW games to linux as well. Origin is not much compared to Valves Steam and Blizzards Store.
Valve is a solid bet, Newell hates Win8 and already loves linux. Valve has more than 2500 games in their store. And more coming surely.
CCP should start looking at this seriously. Not only a native linux client, but a whole "games-store" for their portfolio which is probably going to include both EVE Online, World of Darkness AND also Dust 514. |
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