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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.04.27 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Mijstor Jedann on 27/04/2004 11:50:14
To my fellow citizens of Amarr-
Surely, there is another way. Is it the consenscus of our empire that the funds to repair our Cathedral come from tourist admission fee's? Is it the holy monuments fate to be a regular pit-stop of intergalactic hobo's and delinquents alike? I for one would like to think not. It is a private, spiritual place, not for half of the universe to be given encouragement to come and 'visit'.
I do not have a solution to the problem, but a suggestion at least to start with. I am not in tune with exaclty what the repair bill is, from the fiasco that took place there. However, thinking optamistically, the patriots of Amarr banding together in this finacially to get the Cathedral rebuilt would show a great unity in our culture! I am not a rich man, but would like to plegde 5 million ISK as a show of good faith, in the hopes others will follow in the same path. Perhaps if enough of us band together and present the Tash-Murkon representatives with enough wealth, they won't have any reason for furthering their current plans, and thus preserving the sanctity of the site.
*edit: spelling error(s)
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Maidel
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Posted - 2004.04.27 13:29:00 -
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I also agree with this very strongly - i would also donate from my personal funds up to 5 million isk towards this if it would keep our hallowed institutions clear from being exploited.
'Your Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Sansha's Ravager, wrecking for 554.6 damage. - they do work occationally' |
Intergral Carla
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Posted - 2004.04.27 15:09:00 -
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I'd pay a bit to keep it open to the public..
why deny the people a bit of your heretige.. unless you have something to hide.
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Ciar Meara
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Posted - 2004.04.27 15:10:00 -
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Indeed, what is ISK compared with the sanctity of the Amarr churches, I to would pledge the same amount to help this construction.
Let us all join as true Amarr to defend our faith against the wickedness of the caldari ways.
PIE Inc
A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Beringe
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Posted - 2004.04.27 15:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Ciar Meara
Let us all join as true Amarr to defend our faith against the wickedness of the caldari ways.
Don't try to pin this one on us. We Caldaris don't sell our heritage, as captialistic as we (proudly) are.
Tourism. Feh.
That's Gallentian influence if I ever saw it. Blame them.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:08:00 -
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It's filling my heart with joy to see such a noble initiative from our brothers in the Empire. I will donate 5m to repair the damage done by the Emperors son Aritcio Kor-Azor and to prevent the sellout of a holy place by the udorian Tash-Murkon family. I've noticed the engagement of the house Kador in this cause. I am also willing to donate 1000 domesticated slaves. Please let me know who is collecting the contribution.
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:09:00 -
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-begin transmission-
I awake this morning pleased, as many have answered the call and promised support! The divine will bless you all for your deeds. Please, let this be our VOICE against further action is taken on this matter. Let the Privy Council hear us, and hear us loud!
- To any representative of the Tash-Murkon Family, any rough estimate of how much we should be aiming for, would be more than appreciated.
Thank you all Citizens for your time.
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NerisRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:18:00 -
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I don't belive what I'm seeing here. We sacrifice the Khuumak, you free a few thousand slaves. Then decide to repair your forgotten churches, whilst you tore our spiritual artifacts down...
...am I the only one who senses some irony in all of this?
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:30:00 -
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Peh
Let them waste their isk on out of date relics, we are a spiritual people, we have little need of "churches".
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: AsheRaven
Peh
Let them waste their isk on out of date relics, we are a spiritual people, we have little need of "churches".
Yet y'all were so vocal about the Khumaak.. As deeply spiritual people, surely you don't really need it, then?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:37:00 -
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While I support this initiative, and will do so economically should a parlay open up with the Tash-Murkon family, it is with more than a little scorn I turn my eye upon Articio Kor-Azor and his responsibility in the centre of all this.
Your behavior and the subsequent lack of responsibility for what uncouth actions you partook in, demeans you not only in my eyes, but also in the eyes of a great many citizens of Amarr. The cost of repairing the Cathedral should have come out of your pocket, and not that of the Loyal servants of Amarr who wish for our heritage to remain sacred and unspoiled by foreigners.
Time is the ultimate judge of worth, and it remains to see how long a man of dubious moral fibre is found Worthy to remain as a Heir to Amarr!
Repent before it is too late!
These opinions are my own and are in no way to be associated with the policies of PIE Inc.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2004.04.27 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: AsheRaven
Peh
Let them waste their isk on out of date relics, we are a spiritual people, we have little need of "churches".
Yet y'all were so vocal about the Khumaak.. As deeply spiritual people, surely you don't really need it, then?
A symbol that reflects unity is better than a buliding that shares hypocrisy. I only commented on this thread to answer Neris's question, not to either support or degenrate your cultur, but I did so anyway it seems, oh well.
Get back your rally, my business here is done. I'll just watch the mirrored drama unfold.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.04.27 17:24:00 -
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I'll gladly donate ISK and manpower to this cause on the following conditions:
ò The Cathedral is declared as belonging to the Empire and it's people
ò The Cathedral is not open for entry to non-Amarrians
ò Catiz Tash-Murkon is executed immediately
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.04.27 17:35:00 -
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:Update:
We, the Holders and Citizens of Amarr still await any contact from the Tash-Murkon house, or the Privy Council regarding this matter.
Just from reviewing these GalNet transmissions, it would seem we have
25 Million isk (possibly 30mill if we include Mr. Narok's donation, which conditions might prove a little difficult to fullfil) + 1,000 slaves already on the table willing to be donated by various cultural leaders from all corners of the Empire!
Let's keep this on track ladies and gentlemen, make enough noise, and the council WILL hear us!
If you have nothing positive or constructive to say about the matter, I respectfully ask that you move along.
Again, thank you all citizens of EvE for your time.
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Detaitiv
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Posted - 2004.04.27 17:57:00 -
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The Emperor has expressed his desire for the Cathedral to remain in its current state, through the actions of his son and the turning of his head.
Either do the Emperors will and let our way of life fall into a state foreshadowed by this viseral example, of fight against him.
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Nathan Adler
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Posted - 2004.04.27 19:19:00 -
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I will gladly donate 5 million isk for materials, and 500 slaves to aid in the labour needed to repair and keep this holy site free of foreign vagabonds. We must keep this cathedral pure not only in form, but in spirit as well. Allowing unclean heathens in would go against everything the cathedral, and we as a people, stand for.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.04.27 19:59:00 -
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I'm sure I can spare a few million as well as labour.
I'll try to get in touch with deathwing let him put his 50.000 slaves to good use for a change..
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Tsual
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Tsual on 27/04/2004 20:30:51
Originally by: Tok Narok
ò Catiz Tash-Murkon is executed immediately
An Amarrian requesting the death of one of his empires heirs, man and I thought this deacon was the shining example of a fundamentalist.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.04.27 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tok Narok
I'll gladly donate ISK and manpower to this cause on the following conditions:
? The Cathedral is declared as belonging to the Empire and it's people
? The Cathedral is not open for entry to non-Amarrians
? Catiz Tash-Murkon is executed immediately
You want the execution of a Heir? I don't like the Tash-Murkon family because they are Udorians and bought their seat in the Privy Council with money. No other bloodline than Amarr should have the privilege to get a seat in the Privy Council and thereby getting the chance to become Emperor. I've said this several times before and I will continue as a religious reclaimer. But the Tash-Murkon are brave citizens of the Empire. Yes, the idea of Catiz Tash-Murkon is a mistake. The noble house Ardishapur and (to my surprise) the house Kador made their critic public. But at least Catiz Tash-Murkon was the only one until now who made an attempt to repair the damage done by Aritcio Kor-Azor.
If anyone is to blame, and I am aware what I am saying here, it is Aritcio Kor-Azor and those who defend his actions. I can say this as a Dark Amarr. But the citizens of the Empire you should be carefull if they agree with me. It's your Emperor who has the power and who controls the Ministry Of Internal Order and Aritcio is his son.
Regardless of all politics: my first goal is to uphold our traditions. My donation will be available to prevent a sellout of our religion to tourists. We are God's chosen people and not an attraction for tourists.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
If anyone is to blame, and I am aware what I am saying here, it is Aritcio Kor-Azor and those who defend his actions. I can say this as a Dark Amarr. But the citizens of the Empire you should be carefull if they agree with me. It's your Emperor who has the power and who controls the Ministry Of Internal Order and Aritcio is his son.
Although we do agree where the responsibility of raising the Cathedral back to its former Glory lies, you seem to overlook the fact that when Doriam II ascended the Imperial Throne, he forsook all former ties with his blood.
The Emperor is of all families and none, he is Amarr incarnate, our beacon of Hope and Righteousness.
Infallible.
House Kador was the first and most verbal critic of the actions which despoiled this sacred Cathedral in the first place, and true to the heritage of Kador, will remain to stand for what is Truly Amarr.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ardor
You want the execution of a Heir?
Yes.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:25:00 -
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What a silly thing to demand, Tok..
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.04.27 21:50:00 -
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Catiz Tash-Murkon is clearly a traitor to the Amarrian people and to the Empire, and should be treated as such. By execution.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 27/04/2004 22:08:01
Actually:
Originally by: News
The cathedral has been closed since the incident and in need of repairs and renovations. None has been willing to take up this burden until Catiz stepped in.
Catiz stepped in with plans to repair the Cathedral after Artico Kor-Azor damaged it in the notories revelry he held there. She plans to fund the repairs, using revenue from 'tourism'
Originally by: News
Catiz plans to fund the extensive repairs needed by allowing tourists, for the first time, to visit the holy site
The cash and labour I offer, and that I expected this thread to be about, is to help restore the Cathedral using our resources so it can remain closed to the public, not disturbing the hallowed ground there.
You see, if anyone is to be executed, it should be Artico Kor-Azor. Catiz merely tries to save what he has ruined.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:22:00 -
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Tash-Murkon Family- The rolling momento of support is growing, with around 35 Million isk and countless slave labour being offered. Please, I respectfully ask for some form of statement regarding this matter. It will no doubt inspire citizens of the empire three-fold to keep the donations comming in, to see that this is not IN VEIN.
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Tok Narok
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Actually:
Do not presume to lecture me Discorporation. I'm perfectly aware of the situation... I too can read the news.
Originally by: Discorporation
The cash and labour I offer, and that I expected this thread to be about, is to help restore the Cathedral using our resources so it can remain closed to the public, not disturbing the hallowed ground there.
Precisely. I simply added conditions to my offer.
Originally by: Discorporation
You see, if anyone is to be executed, it should be Artico Kor-Azor. Catiz merely tries to save what he has ruined.
My opinions of Artico are not for this thread. Catiz however is clearly not restoring the cathedral for the good of the Empire and its people. The day the Tash-Murkon Family values the Empire over ISK, I'll stop wishing for their eradication.
Obviously I wish to see the cathedral repaired... but not at the price of welcoming scum through its doors.
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Lorna Doone
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Posted - 2004.04.27 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
The cash and labour I offer, and that I expected this thread to be about, is to help restore the Cathedral using our resources so it can remain closed to the public, not disturbing the hallowed ground there.
Que? So y'all are gonna blow a load of cash on doing up a place that you're not even allowed to go in?
More to the point, isn't a cathedral a place of worship, so shouldn't it be open to everybody, including 'foreign vagabonds' and 'unclean heathens?' How is anybody supposed to find your god if you don't let them in his house?
Anyway, I've got a foundation stone from an agent mission I fluffed up which you can have to help rebuild the place. I keep stubbing my toe on the damned thing.
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Mijstor Jedann
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Posted - 2004.04.28 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Lorna Doone
Anyway, I've got a foundation stone from an agent mission I fluffed up which you can have to help rebuild the place. I keep stubbing my toe on the damned thing.
I bow to you Madamme, thank you for your pledged contribution.
We the people of Amarr still await an answer from the Tash-Murkon Representatives.
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Ardor
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Posted - 2004.04.28 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
Although we do agree where the responsibility of raising the Cathedral back to its former Glory lies, you seem to overlook the fact that when Doriam II ascended the Imperial Throne, he forsook all former ties with his blood.
The Emperor is of all families and none, he is Amarr incarnate, our beacon of Hope and Righteousness.
Infallible.
This is the way it should be. But I doubt Doriam is the rightfull Emperor so we will see.
quote from http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?nid=267&ntype=eve
"Ardishapur has demanded a full report of the 'incident' to be given to the Theology Council as soon as possible and that the Emperor, as the chief religious figure in the empire, reprimand Articio Kor-Azor for his irresponsible and sacrilegious behavior. The Imperial Chamberlain has already answered Ardishapur's request on behalf on the Emperor and stated that Doriam did not share Ardishapur's concern on the matter and would not take any action against Articio Kor-Azor."
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2004.04.28 01:00:00 -
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I too will pledge the 5mil ISK for the reconstruction of our holy and sacred cathederal. If I'm not mistaking, this now brings the total of our donations to 40mil ISK.
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