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Celeste Coeval The Gosimer and Scarab	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:15:00 - [61] Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 08/05/2008 11:15:25 Originally by: Amastat No - I really mean it. I'm going to petition CCP and request they nerf the crap out of ECM and Nanos so we can see how long it takes for the Minmatar playerbase to *** and beg CCP to restore the ECM and nanos to original specs. Minmatar base speed is great. If you nerf nano's it's every other race that will suffer. The Vagabond will be king once more. Originally by:** Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route.
Akiba Penrose Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:29:00 - [62] Originally by: Celeste Coeval Minmatar base speed is great. If you nerf nano's it's every other race that will suffer. The Vagabond will be king once more. Yeah, i agree. Nano gangs is not the real problem, they are just a symptom indicating something might be wrong. In low sec the falcons is very dominating atm,, they can have over 200km range and take out multiple ships from the battle. Nano ships is the only way to effectivly deal with them imo.
The Tzar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:41:00 - [63] Once again..., A NERF IS A SUGGESTED CHANGE TO THE GAME AND BELONGS IN IDEA'S AND DISCUSSION..., cry cry cry little Clarice..., cry cry cry. I promise you it is possible to have an intelligent reasoned chat about things without crying nerf all the bloody time. Don't you bore yourself? Do you find yourself drifting off to sleep to the sound and wit of your own dull banter? Please stop whinging and complete at least 2 of the followng self help initiatives:- 1. Quit and give me your stuff 2. Play more WoW as you clearly have an account. 3. Get some cosmetic surgery so at least it looks like you have some balls. 4. Stop applying fake tan, i'm bored of disguises. 5. Write into the daily (insert paper here) perhaps you're confusing us with someone who gives a shutting fick. Oh and you should only go out solo as anything more might be unfair on your target. Make sure you post your setup in local before engaging so both parties can perfectly match each other. Lock all gates into system to ensure 'fairness' .... hey presto the nerfers have ruined another game. 1. They're only pixels. 2. It's not real money. 3. Tatoo points one and two backwards on your forehead and look in your vanity mirror before EVER posting again on this fair forum. Thankyou for your time. __________________________________________ 'Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear intelligent until they speak' __________________________________________
Garmon Minmatar Genos Occidere	Posted - 2008.05.08 11:45:00 - [64] Tzar you just made your self look like a complete ******. __________________________________ Me being an hero in my battle boat
Akiba Penrose Minmatar PAK	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:04:00 - [65] Originally by: The Tzar Once again..., A NERF IS A SUGGESTED CHANGE TO THE GAME AND BELONGS IN IDEA'S AND DISCUSSION..., cry cry cry little Clarice..., cry cry cry. I promise you it is possible to have an intelligent reasoned chat about things without crying nerf all the bloody time. Don't you bore yourself? Do you find yourself drifting off to sleep to the sound and wit of your own dull banter? Please stop whinging and complete at least 2 of the followng self help initiatives:- 1. Quit and give me your stuff 2. Play more WoW as you clearly have an account. 3. Get some cosmetic surgery so at least it looks like you have some balls. 4. Stop applying fake tan, i'm bored of disguises. 5. Write into the daily (insert paper here) perhaps you're confusing us with someone who gives a shutting fick. Oh and you should only go out solo as anything more might be unfair on your target. Make sure you post your setup in local before engaging so both parties can perfectly match each other. Lock all gates into system to ensure 'fairness' .... hey presto the nerfers have ruined another game. 1. They're only pixels. 2. It's not real money. 3. Tatoo points one and two backwards on your forehead and look in your vanity mirror before EVER posting again on this fair forum. Thankyou for your time. May I suggest this; link
Larkonis Trassler Neo Spartans	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:15:00 - [66] Falcon is fine tbh. ECCM is there for a reason, same as we have sensor boosters to counter damps and Tracking comps to counter disruptors. Whenever I take out my BS for some sort of gang engagement I fit ECCM, I make sure most of my guys do the same as well. Will some of us still get jammed? Yes! Will we get jammed as much? No! Sacrificing one mid more than halves the enemies ability to lock you down. Solo you are always going to be pretty goosed by a Falcon, same as if they bring a Blackbird, Kitsune, Scorp, Rook, Keres, Celestis, Arazu, Lach, Arbi, Curse, Sentinal, Pilgrim etc etc. All of the racial EWAR ships spell some hurt for a player if one of them turns up as you are fighting others. Falcon just appears to be the current FOTM, but by no means does it need a nurf. Fighting in a gang, easy? Most of the time unless you are engaging an established camp the Falcon pilot will not have a chance to make a decent BM and he will probably be at range from a celestial object. Have a gang mate in reserve in a nano ship warp on top of him. He won't know WTF has happened and will melt. Simple. I find it very rare for a decent 1vs1 to occur in Eve, unless agreed by an honourable party like myself, simple fact is, people don't like losing ships, people like making other things explode. You will always be on the lookout to gain a one up on someone else and reduce the risk to yourself and your gang, be it with ECM, nanos, capships, whatever. Get real, and get some friends. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Navigator ([email protected])
Yendaj Minmatar Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:16:00 - [67] Originally by: The Tzar Once again..., A NERF IS A SUGGESTED CHANGE TO THE GAME AND BELONGS IN IDEA'S AND DISCUSSION..., cry cry cry little Clarice..., cry cry cry. I promise you it is possible to have an intelligent reasoned chat about things without crying nerf all the bloody time. Don't you bore yourself? Do you find yourself drifting off to sleep to the sound and wit of your own dull banter? Please stop whinging and complete at least 2 of the followng self help initiatives:- 1. Quit and give me your stuff 2. Play more WoW as you clearly have an account. 3. Get some cosmetic surgery so at least it looks like you have some balls. 4. Stop applying fake tan, i'm bored of disguises. 5. Write into the daily (insert paper here) perhaps you're confusing us with someone who gives a shutting fick. Oh and you should only go out solo as anything more might be unfair on your target. Make sure you post your setup in local before engaging so both parties can perfectly match each other. Lock all gates into system to ensure 'fairness' .... hey presto the nerfers have ruined another game. 1. They're only pixels. 2. It's not real money. 3. Tatoo points one and two backwards on your forehead and look in your vanity mirror before EVER posting again on this fair forum. Thankyou for your time. lmaooo !! My brother.... Love you and miss you darling one
tiller MAFIA	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:24:00 - [68] my alt sits in a falcon cloaked 180k from gate if im camping solo... it's a good insurance policy so anyone who comes and has a go, will lose lock and let me run :)... either that or I'll just kill them
Xonkra Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:53:00 - [69] Originally by: Johnny Gurkha Not one to whine much but 'PVP' pilots with Falcon ~~alt's~~alts are annoying, and no Ii'm not moaning because I i lost anything, my ship is intact. I'm just bemoaning the fact Ii couldn't have a decent scrap without the "intervention" He undocks, Ii undock, he mwd's away from the station... hmmmm why the sudden rush? He engages and fires away. I scram him for a second and disengage immediatly thinking something is fishy, Falcon uncloaks and jams, I redock after a minute. Smack, smack, smack. Yawn. Him Harbinger, me Brutix... a pretty even fight Ii was willing to lose for a decent fight, he wanted it on easy mode. How common is this scenario? Also in the title "falcon's" >>> "Falcons" You're welcome. stupid character limit
B0rn2KiLL DEATHFUNK R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.08 12:58:00 - [70] Originally by: Mikko Alatalo Sun Tzu said: The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy. i bet Sun Tzu didn't smack his enemies though. which make our times a tad different. those two smacked, and unvailed their trump card too quickly. it stinks of fail to me. --- Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game

Zirconium Blade Ass Pounding Space Monkeys	Posted - 2008.05.08 13:17:00 - [71] Dont nerf the falcon, boost the rook! Change its bonus to 40% per level so it has a chance to be as popular as the falcon
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:04:00 - [72] Originally by: B0rn2KiLL Originally by: Mikko Alatalo Sun Tzu said: The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Thus the good fighter is able to secure himself against defeat, but cannot make certain of defeating the enemy. i bet Sun Tzu didn't smack his enemies though. which make our times a tad different. those two smacked, and unvailed their trump card too quickly. it stinks of fail to me. but theres no respawns in rl! or docking up
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:38:00 - [73] Hi my name is Calypso and I fly recons. Actually, I fly all the recons with pretty much MAX electronics skills. I have litterally 1000s of solo, group, 2man, blob, fleet kills. Your more than welcome to check battleclinic :) First off, fit eccm û it does work. 2nd, FOF missiles are your friend. To me a falcon is a force multiplier. Normally I camp a 00 pipe with rapier + falcon combo, someone jumps through I engage with my rapier û I engage ANYTHING and everything that jumps throughà Even if I know I canÆt break its tank. What I wait for û is his buddiesà if there is something I can actually kill in the rapier.. I jam everyone else and fight that dude. You can check the ENH Killboard and see some of the fights I have been in over the last few weeks. 8 on 3 vs Destiny, or an epic 9 on 3 vs ATF. (rapier vaga Falcon vs everyone in K8 local) ECM is NOT overpowered your just not fitting your ships to counter it. Let me do something for you: How to counter: Speed: Fit Damps and Webs (WHAT?), Yes they are nerfed BUT most nano ships have poor lock range. If you damp them they have to move closer and hopefully into web range. Here is another bad thing to do to recons: fit neuts on your BS and have a rapier cloaked nearby. Neut, uncloak, web and the BS shoot the nano ship. ECM: ECCM. Do you realize how hard it is to jam a 40point BS? I have MAX EW skills and it takes 3 Racials to ôpermaö jam. Or just fly caldari in pvp (lulz) Drake w. FOF vs Falcon + rapier = Me running away. I dunno, like usual the post will get the ôI canÆt always waste a slot for ECCM, it breaks my tankö. Anyways, have a good day. CW
Elanra	Posted - 2008.05.08 14:53:00 - [74] Originally by: Calypso's Wrath I dunno, like usual the post will get the ôI canÆt always waste a slot for ECCM, it breaks my tankö. Interestingly enough, no one complains about tanks being overpowered.
kessah The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:09:00 - [75] Edited by: kessah on 08/05/2008 15:11:09 fact is to knock a battleship out of a fight permenatly it should take all you mids like it takes all ur mids in an arazu / lach... imho should be like it was, cycle jamming before the ecm change. Really use to have to work at jamming then.
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:10:00 - [76] Originally by: Elanra Interestingly enough, no one complains about tanks being overpowered. Heh ya, tell me about it. Tackled a drake last night in my rapier (with 15 of his buddies next door) I was hoping for someone to come and help him. Ya, he just logged. Me and a falcon sat there for 10 mins laying into him (Yeah! for crap DPS) before he finally died. Personally the nerf that hurt the most was the NOS nerf. I loved my curse :(
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2008.05.08 15:14:00 - [77] Originally by: kessah fact is to knock a battleship out of a fight permenatly it should take all you mids like it takes all ur mids in an arazu / lach... Arazu/lach has DPS to offset this. You engange different targets when running Arazu/rapier combo. 200 dps from your rapier + ecm with the falcon and being able to engage a 5-6 man gang and kill one. OR 200 dps rapier + 200 dps Arazu = Dead battleship. If I caught you on a gate, which would your perfer? Its a time/effort/patience thing I guess. I could do the Burn Edan thing and use a cloaking/damp(or ecm) Raven + rapier. hmmm that gives me an idea.
EinaruS The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2008.05.08 16:26:00 - [78] condoms may not provide the same experience but the reprocussions are not as dire if you didnt use it. - A finger...especially the middle one, is worth more than any amount of isk
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2008.05.08 16:28:00 - [79] I PvP'd this brutor chick without a falcon and my **** fell off
Flipout Gallente	Posted - 2008.05.08 16:42:00 - [80] Originally by: Tregaron Tbh EW ships are now factors in every gang it's like oh lets go kill this 6 man gang with our 30 man gang oh wait we need 10 EW ships first. yeh i lost my bhaalgorn to a 30 man gang who brought 3x kitsune, 3x falcons, 2x rooks and 2x blackbirds least i would like to have was a nice fight before going pop but no can't lock anything can't tank 30 hostiles and sentrys it's just wrong. i mean you jump in say a golem or kronos only takes 1 blackbird and a damage dealer and ur feked. a 7mil cruiser can mess up a 1bil+ ship easy as pie. kill the blackbird few secs l8ter he comes back in another. yeh alright for some peeps to say fit ECCM but it don't work wen your fightin gangs with 5+ ew ships. oh well lolz Ever thought for a moment that it wasn't "Alright guys, lets bring as many jamming ships as we can" but a "well, I trained up for this ship and I feel like flying it, so im going to bring it out"?

Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers Black Hand.	Posted - 2008.05.08 16:59:00 - [81] I always see them die, ECCM snipegeddon and/or tempest in gang makes for a tough time for a paper ship. Black Hand.
Dianeces Minmatar The Illuminati.	Posted - 2008.05.08 17:27:00 - [82] Originally by: Everyone Dies ccp should really reverse the boost to falcons. ecm is making this game really lame. +1 Everyone Dies terriblepostÖ
Darth Syphils Amarr Noshikkan	Posted - 2008.05.08 20:02:00 - [83] 1 falcon alt is not that bad. I seen a guy using 2 logistics 1 huggin and a rook. All 1 guys manning those ships! To the people moaning about ECM and the falcon just remember it cant realy solo anything unlike all the other race force recons, only has ECM bonuses and no drone bay.
Johnny Gurkha Maleficus Cruentus Interfeci	Posted - 2008.05.08 21:54:00 - [84] Well as far as I'm concerned CCP can do what they will with ECM/Recon's/etc, I'm doing what I will to get what I pay for and thats PVP... if you want to join in your more than welcome No bull**** PVP
hedfunk Caldari Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.08 22:59:00 - [85] I think it's a shame CCP nerfed damps + Nos, recon gangs used to be epic. Kill slowly, sure, but covertly, and be able to slowly take one target down, whilst keeping a great deal more out of the fight, then moving on to the next target. Boosting the bonuses on the amarr recons and gallente recons is the way forward! I used to love my lach's, now I have 3 which never get undocked. The tackle lach is useless now too, due to HIC's! MORE RECON LOVE PLEASE!
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates	Posted - 2008.05.08 23:16:00 - [86] So uh. Gangs that are made up of a mix of ships, are beating gangs of just one type of ship. That sounds almost like it's functioning as designed. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking?
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2008.05.08 23:37:00 - [87] I'm a falcon pilot with a PVP alt...? ------------ Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
Riaz Qaadir	Posted - 2008.05.08 23:47:00 - [88] Originally by: Calypso's Wrath Hi my name is Calypso and I fly recons. Actually, I fly all the recons with pretty much MAX electronics skills. I have litterally 1000s of solo, group, 2man, blob, fleet kills. Your more than welcome to check battleclinic :) First off, fit eccm û it does work. 2nd, FOF missiles are your friend. To me a falcon is a force multiplier. Normally I camp a 00 pipe with rapier + falcon combo, someone jumps through I engage with my rapier û I engage ANYTHING and everything that jumps throughà Even if I know I canÆt break its tank. What I wait for û is his buddiesà if there is something I can actually kill in the rapier.. I jam everyone else and fight that dude. You can check the ENH Killboard and see some of the fights I have been in over the last few weeks. 8 on 3 vs Destiny, or an epic 9 on 3 vs ATF. (rapier vaga Falcon vs everyone in K8 local) ECM is NOT overpowered your just not fitting your ships to counter it. Let me do something for you: How to counter: Speed: Fit Damps and Webs (WHAT?), Yes they are nerfed BUT most nano ships have poor lock range. If you damp them they have to move closer and hopefully into web range. Here is another bad thing to do to recons: fit neuts on your BS and have a rapier cloaked nearby. Neut, uncloak, web and the BS shoot the nano ship. ECM: ECCM. Do you realize how hard it is to jam a 40point BS? I have MAX EW skills and it takes 3 Racials to ôpermaö jam. Or just fly caldari in pvp (lulz) Drake w. FOF vs Falcon + rapier = Me running away. I dunno, like usual the post will get the ôI canÆt always waste a slot for ECCM, it breaks my tankö. Anyways, have a good day. CW When your using 4 combat ships and 4 falcons you know there's something wrong. A ship that can take out pretty much a minimium of 2 ships every 20 seconds so thats double or larger sized targets you can reasonably engage. If you fit ECCM then your reducing the counters to nano ships as you've just stated damps+webs (with heavy neuts). If things get to hairy the nano ships can pretty much always be able to run away and can not feel bad because "we got blobbed". If you don't get blobbed its pretty much a easy win. This is more about the more = better style eve has than anything. TBH as a player with a falcon capable pilot i'd rather ECM range be slashed to make them get more involved and more risk rather than 200km range easy mode boring ship thats pretty much a requirement for every gang.
Kaaii Caldari PixelJuice Design Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2008.05.09 00:20:00 - [89] I submit, its nano****z.....not the falcon.. According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Commodore Spade	Posted - 2008.05.09 00:37:00 - [90] Originally by: Amastat Edited by: Amastat on 07/05/2008 22:53:08 I notice its mostly minnie players whining, I don't blame them though, Minmatar have the worst sensor strengths in the game. A lot of minnies whine about the idea of a speed nerf though because "It's like the only thing we got going for us". Perhaps you all should think about your own whiny feelings about speed when you cry for another ECM nerf - you cannot deny how worthless the Caldari fleet would be in PvP once that happens. In other words, if you can't live with the idea of speed nerfs, you have no right demanding everything else but your nanohacs be nerfed. Actually - it may be more simple if CCP just beat the ** out of ECM and nanos/od's with the nerf bat. Let's get them to do that, or will the cry-much back down now? No - REALLY, I mean it. If you guys can live without a speed nerfaggedon, by ALL MEANS - the Caldari can live with another ECM nerfaggedon. Try me... Maybe its just me, but doesn't nerfing everything leave you where you started? ( Only weaker? ) ** just boost everything else up, more epic ^_^



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