Then I'm right back to my original question: If all this activity to put pressure on CCP will not prevent the event of "Eve dies a slow and painful death", then why do it? Wouldn't it be better to spend our time figuring out something what would work? (No I'm not sure what that would be. The best Ive thought of is face to face meetings with the investors of CCP).

Historically CCP management is quite reactive to the press. See: Monoclegate, T20, Summer of Rage. It's actually the only consistently effective tactic that players have found to get CCP's management to change their course.

As much as you might want to wring your hands in hysteria, media pressure as an effective strategy is not new, and this is not the first time it has been deployed.

There is just this slight issue with DUST already being announced to be released next year. I have no doubt CCP management will throw any and all resources at this for it to accomplish and getting them to prioritize differently in any greater level will be practically impossible.

That was then. This is now.

Now they may be so invested in the two new games that they may feel its best to ignore any bad press about the current situation, assuming it will either blow over, or not be so damaging that they cannot make it all back when the new games come out. They may be thinking: "Don't worry about it. When everyone sees the new games they will think its so utterly AWESOME that all will be forgiven!"

I really think you need a Plan B here, something to do if CCP management simply ignores the bad press, or just gives it lip service.

Then I'm right back to my original question: If all this activity to put pressure on CCP will not prevent the event of "Eve dies a slow and painful death", then why do it? Wouldn't it be better to spend our time figuring out something what would work? (No I'm not sure what that would be. The best Ive thought of is face to face meetings with the investors of CCP).

You might be missing a lot, since there's no 'war'. The CSM is exerting pressure as a community to try to get the management to allocate more resources to the game we all love - a SPACESHIP game.

The CSM has not called for unsubs, or for 'war'. I'd suggest you start reading primary sources, rather than hyperbolic summaries on eve-o.

Gullible noobies prepared to fully support this Pay2win garbage..

That's assuming that CCP ignore the bad press, they do that they seriously risk losing potential customers and future products being tainted. The last great "poop-storm" that reared its ugly head we got a couple of blogs and a 'it will all blow over soon' attitude, once the press got their hands on it the tune changed pretty rapidly and an emergency CSM meeting was held, huge promises were made etc etc. 4 months later what do we have to show of ANY progress? Basically.... a photo of a white board with a few ideas which potentially are going to take 5 years to deploy.

Personally I'm holding out to winter before I make the decision to stay or leave, if this patch falls flat on its face like the last couple I dont see the point of sticking around, which is a shame after 5 years of playing, 2 fanfests and a hell of a lot of good friendships.

Mittani, as large as your ego may be, even you have completely missed the point and/or theme of EVE. I think the average derper can tell you that flying Spaceships is a big part of EVE, but this is not entirely, 100% a spaceship GAME. Once you realize this, well, your face might explode.

We are playing a space simulator. Exploration, combat, mining, station trading, politics, corporation management and (soon) player interaction via station establishments.

Tell me again that this is simply a spaceship game, or give me your CSM chair, because, obviously, I understand this game better than you and I've only been around since '09.

there are no game affecting items in the NeX store
CCP has said there will not be game affecting items in the nex store.

We'll see how it goes.

If I do have a Plan B, I'm not going to reveal it until Plan A fails.

i think both of you are being over the top

eve is primarily a spaceship game. but Incarna does have it's place as well to increase the richness of the universe.

but more time needs to be spend on FiS and if they're going to do WiS DO IT RIGHT - stop doing half arsed releases.

You should just go with plan B now. And maybe C and D while you are at it.

Time to treat it like a hot drop operation and bring as much firepower as you can muster all at once.

The neglect from Gé¼Gé¼P towards their only source of revenue makes me glad I've cancelled my sub. Ah well, all good things come to an end. Fly Safe

If you really believe the situation is going to remain that way, then you are more gullible than the people ccp are trying to replace the current playerbase with.

If your primary concern with articles like this is The Mittani's ego and not the sense that he and the CSM by extension are talking then you might not be surprised to learn that you have no interest in EVE being a better game and are more interested in the shallow lows of sensationalism. Also Mittens is a cool bro irl so ~back off nerds~.

Credibility destroyed.

FATALITY.

How is me telling people to pay attention to ~what is real~ a hit to my credibility?

You are attacking a playerbase, no, a small percentage of the playerbase (meaning, the people who actually read forums) because you have failed to acknowledge that not everyone sees things the way that you do.

People like this do not deserve a position to represent said playerbase.

I'm 'attacking' people who prefer to build their own vision of whats real based on sensationalism. But you're rationalizing their position which is terrifying. And yeah, I'd prefer not to represent people who have the intellectual credibility of a tabloid reader.

That's funny, because a lot of the whining and war mongering is fueled by people who wear the metaphorical tinfoil hat.

Yeah? And I never claimed to represent those people.

And yeah, I'd prefer not to represent people who have the intellectual credibility of a tabloid reader.

I also didn't vote for you.

The new campaign will hopefully reach the masses. We will strive to keep people with their own personal agenda out of the CSM. What we need are people who represent the playerbase as a whole. Not just people with a narrow-vision of what they believe EVE is.

Especially, Mittens.

But the large, vast majority of the playerbase believes that the spaceships part has been neglected over a large period of time.