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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2008.05.15 16:31:00 -
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Edited by: Shiken Kan on 15/05/2008 16:40:04
Originally by: Stork DK
Right. I edited the topic, can you stop trolling threads now?
Nope the topic should be:
OMG one amarr ceptor is slightly faster then a minma ceptor. How should I be able to compete with such uberness?
Originally by: Lady Frostmourn
Originally by: Shiken Kan you forgot to take the damage while traveling at those speeds into account:
Crow: 69 dps Claw: 31 dps Ares: 15 dps Crusader: 0 dps
omg buff amarr 
Are you trying to say that the Crow's missiles are fast enough to hit another interceptor?
no i'm saying that at such speeds missiles are the only weapons that can hit anything and plz don't give me lowering transversal by manual piloting at 55km a sec.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.05.15 16:52:00 -
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Not gonna read the replies, just gonna say that the Claw has the smallest sig radius of any other ship in the entire game.
But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
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Corwain
Gallente DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:00:00 -
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Overloaded modules [x] Faction/Deadspace gear [x] Maxed skills [x] Disgusting Misuse of EFT [x] OP Exibiting Lack of Brains [x]
EFT can actually be used to prove useful info. Unfortunately brain-dead posters like the OP screw it up for the legitimate uses. Bravo.
Nothing to see here...
PS I do not mean the OP any out of game disrespect. I'm sure he/she is a functioning member of society. Just please no more drunk/hungover/drug induced posts. Also I do not take him/her seriously: lol, internets! -- Distortion| Distortion 2 Preview |

Diomidis
Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.15 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Overloaded modules [x] Faction/Deadspace gear [x] Maxed skills [x] Disgusting Misuse of EFT [x] OP Exibiting Lack of Brains [x]
EFT can actually be used to prove useful info. Unfortunately brain-dead posters like the OP screw it up for the legitimate uses. Bravo.
Nothing to see here...
PS I do not mean the OP any out of game disrespect. I'm sure he/she is a functioning member of society. Just please no more drunk/hungover/drug induced posts. Also I do not take him/her seriously: lol, internets!
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Crellion
Art of War Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:06:00 -
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Why the need to go max? Fit mwd t1 and some t1 overdrives to each and count sheesh. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Karad Forsky
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.15 18:57:00 -
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The difference is marginal. Claw is not a great ship for any purpose compared to racial alternatives.
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion Why the need to go max? Fit mwd t1 and some t1 overdrives to each and count sheesh.
The reason is that with a way more realistic t2 fit the claw is faster then the sader 
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Wideen
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:39:00 -
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wat
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Vathar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:41:00 -
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I want the time I spent reading this pile of @;!"$ú%&" back!
Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts[/qu
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Daer Vechesier
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Posted - 2008.05.15 20:59:00 -
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Of course the sader is faster, its a high tech supreme interceptor, while the claw on the other hand is a trashcan with a mwd ducttaped onto it.
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Savlin
Gallente principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.15 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Savlin on 15/05/2008 21:59:44 Crusader vs Claw
1. Crusader goes Crusader = 55086m/s Claw = 54939m/s [147m/s less]
2. pew pew, noone can hit eachother.
3. claw webs crusader
4. Crusader activates his.. errm lowslot.. o no must have speed mods there.
5. claw orbits and pews missiles.
6. topic fail.
Crusader and claw has diffrent roles, claw tackler, Crusader inty hunter
Stork DK: Right, minmatar is supposed to be fastest of all the races rp for the geeks : Executioner class intys are made to hunt down fast Mimatar ships.
So you want to say that mimatar ships should be the fastest in game as in eve-lore, then hence the role of amarr inty's.
Nothing says that all Mimatar ship classes are fastest in game.
O and btw, nerf Rapier.
edit: feels sorry for Vathar
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.15 23:48:00 -
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Assuming straight line speed, the sader will be doing dps (turrets ftw), while missiles are doing jack because they have crappy explosion radii. Ergo, amarr > all :D
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.05.16 00:26:00 -
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Edited by: Atomos Darksun on 16/05/2008 00:27:59 you EFT scum
Originally by: Amoxin My vent is talking to me in a devil voice...
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Kelbesque Crystalis
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.16 00:44:00 -
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Originally by: Savlin
Crusader and claw has diffrent roles, claw tackler, Crusader inty hunter
So that makes the Stiletto the Minnie Inty hunter right? Oh wait....
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Kailiani
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Posted - 2008.05.16 01:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kailiani on 16/05/2008 01:31:37
Quote: Amarr is faster than Matar even tho theyr supposed to be fastest.
What? Your topic sentence is all wrong.
Amarr(in realistic scenarios) are not faster and they aren't supposed to be faster!
I believe you want to rename it to "Amarr are faster in this moronic scenario then Matar even though they aren't supposed to be faster."
Fail
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.16 02:49:00 -
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As a pro-minmatar activist and firm believer in the minmatar-should-be-fastest policy....
I want my 2 minutes back. Don't waste my time like this 
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.05.16 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic As a pro-minmatar activist and firm believer in the minmatar-should-be-fastest policy....
I want my 2 minutes back. Don't waste my time like this 
If gallente has the "I hurt people" rating and minmitar has the "I fly garbage heaps at amazing speeds" what is that Amarr and Caldari do? Both races seem like a compromise on the above two principles. . .
I guess Caldari has the largest sig radius award (stupid shields). Maybe caldari is a "Bring Friends" policy 
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.16 03:49:00 -
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The Eris is faster than the Sabre if you use all the lows for speed mods. Minmatar is not necessarily always the fastest in evry single ship class. But there's nothing wrong with that.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.16 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres If gallente has the "I hurt people" rating and minmitar has the "I fly garbage heaps at amazing speeds" what is that Amarr and Caldari do? Both races seem like a compromise on the above two principles. . .
I guess Caldari has the largest sig radius award (stupid shields). Maybe caldari is a "Bring Friends" policy 
Not to break it down too far, but:
Gallente: Fighter/Conjuration Amarr: Archer/Necromancy Caldari: Bard/Illusion Matari: Rogue/Alteration
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.05.16 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Derek Sigres If gallente has the "I hurt people" rating and minmitar has the "I fly garbage heaps at amazing speeds" what is that Amarr and Caldari do? Both races seem like a compromise on the above two principles. . .
I guess Caldari has the largest sig radius award (stupid shields). Maybe caldari is a "Bring Friends" policy 
Not to break it down too far, but:
Gallente: Fighter/Conjuration Amarr: Archer/Necromancy Caldari: Bard/Illusion Matari: Rogue/Alteration
-Liang
. . . And then we bring traditional RPG's into it 
Still, Bard IS a fair choice for Caldari - our ships don't excell at any specific task but generally do pretty well in several areas.
Interesting choices all around I'd say. Not sure if I agree with Matari - alteration. Evocation seems fair for Gallente (fireballs for example) but it also seems as though Matari have lesser evocation - i.e. the ability to propel wrecks REALLY REALLY fast, or the ability to turn wrecks into workable combat vessels. It's lesser evocation because they havn't worked out how to make Battleships and Cap ships effectively yet. . .

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Crackpipe2000
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Posted - 2008.05.16 03:59:00 -
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no no no. you could actually nerf claw abit to make me look yet even better when i take down your wimpy ****ot taranis or crusader or whatever.
they could give both sader and claw a midslotz to make them more kombat, like crow is. i can fly all of them, but claw is the gangster of love.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.05.16 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: *****pipe2000 no no no. you could actually nerf claw abit to make me look yet even better when i take down your wimpy ****ot taranis or crusader or whatever.
they could give both sader and claw a midslotz to make them more kombat, like crow is. i can fly all of them, but claw is the gangster of love.
What's the ganster of hate then? I'd rather be able to send a large degree of hate and discotent at someone than love. When has love won a battle?
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Crackpipe2000
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Posted - 2008.05.16 04:26:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: *****pipe2000 no no no. you could actually nerf claw abit to make me look yet even better when i take down your wimpy ****ot taranis or crusader or whatever.
they could give both sader and claw a midslotz to make them more kombat, like crow is. i can fly all of them, but claw is the gangster of love.
What's the ganster of hate then? I'd rather be able to send a large degree of hate and discotent at someone than love. When has love won a battle?
Love wins every time. I get all the women after the fight, looking cool in my smoking claw, while the opponent hopelessly tries to salvage something out of the wreck of his fancy, popular non-minnie combat ceptor. Now imagine the grief of losing a real men's fight to a goddamn shuttle with turrets... I'd feel so so sorry for myself. |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.05.16 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: *****pipe2000
Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: *****pipe2000 no no no. you could actually nerf claw abit to make me look yet even better when i take down your wimpy ****ot taranis or crusader or whatever.
they could give both sader and claw a midslotz to make them more kombat, like crow is. i can fly all of them, but claw is the gangster of love.
What's the ganster of hate then? I'd rather be able to send a large degree of hate and discotent at someone than love. When has love won a battle?
Love wins every time. I get all the women after the fight, looking cool in my smoking claw, while the opponent hopelessly tries to salvage something out of the wreck of his fancy, popular non-minnie combat ceptor. Now imagine the grief of losing a real men's fight to a goddamn shuttle with turrets... I'd feel so so sorry for myself.
But love didn't win the fight, it got you the women. But the women didn't come until you won the fight. So it appears you probably won the fight (and thus got the women) by using hate and discontent.
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.05.16 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres But love didn't win the fight, it got you the women. But the women didn't come until you won the fight. So it appears you probably won the fight (and thus got the women) by using hate and discontent.
Who cares? He got the women. :p
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |

Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.05.16 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Derek Sigres But love didn't win the fight, it got you the women. But the women didn't come until you won the fight. So it appears you probably won the fight (and thus got the women) by using hate and discontent.
Who cares? He got the women. :p
-Liang
I do. If I had more hatred to sling and perhaps a smidgen more discontent at my disposal perhaps I too would get the women 
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Blutreiter
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.05.16 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: *****pipe2000
looking cool in my smoking claw, while the opponent hopelessly tries to salvage something out of the wreck
I can just imagine you sitting there in that smoking wreck, trying to ward off some salvager by throwing random pieces of debris at them.
Minmatar ships may not be state of the art, but it they're already smoking, I honestly believe that you DON'T look cool.
Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sh*t up
Originally by: CCP Explorer I know we have said this before, but this time we really mean itÖ
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Hobo Roughsleeper
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kelbesque Crystalis
Originally by: Savlin
Crusader and claw has diffrent roles, claw tackler, Crusader inty hunter
So that makes the Stiletto the Minnie Inty hunter right? Oh wait....
I belive that only Crusader is the pure bred inty hunter in the game all other inty's with 3>= more meds are better off tackling and webbing bigger ships.
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Hobo Roughsleeper
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Hobo Roughsleeper on 17/05/2008 11:34:31 Assuming straight line speed, the sader will be doing dps (turrets ftw), while missiles are doing jack because they have crappy explosion radii. Ergo, amarr > all :D
You are right until Crusader gets webbed. And yes: Ammar> all 
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Thorek Ironbrow
Ironbrow Industries Co. Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2008.05.17 11:34:00 -
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Bloody hell, going that fast I'd be surprised if it really mattered what you were doing. _____________________________
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